Maggie May Posted 14 hours ago Posted 14 hours ago 38 minutes ago, sfc4prem said: Either way, having listened to it... what a fucking shite question. Adam even admitted the sheer banality of his questioning afterwards by backtracking and saying something along the paraphrased line 'that's why you're the manager, you made the changes and you won' It was a fair question, perhaps poorly worded with the use of the word “doubt”. The team selection did raise eyebrows. Just look at the usual meltdown posts on the match day thread. 1
Stud mark of doom Posted 14 hours ago Posted 14 hours ago FFS - we have some complete idiots as supporters. Tonda was laughing with him about three sentences later. It was a light hearted comment. I think it was what counts a joke in Tonda world - or at least I hope it was. Has struck me before that it is completely unacceptable for super-rich football managers (Morriniho was particularly poor) to put the precarious careers of journalists (no doubt with mortgages and families to support) in jeopardy with their bullying antics in press conferences. 6
sfc4prem Posted 13 hours ago Posted 13 hours ago 1 hour ago, Maggie May said: It was a fair question, perhaps poorly worded with the use of the word “doubt”. The team selection did raise eyebrows. Just look at the usual meltdown posts on the match day thread. So poorly worded.
Nordic Saint Posted 13 hours ago Posted 13 hours ago (edited) 1 hour ago, Stud mark of doom said: Has struck me before that it is completely unacceptable for super-rich football managers (Morriniho was particularly poor) to put the precarious careers of journalists (no doubt with mortgages and families to support) in jeopardy with their bullying antics in press conferences. Blackmore didn't mind putting Tonda's career in jeopardy though, did he? When we needed the local media to fight our corner, he was one of the first to line up behind Gibbo's Teesside campaign against Tonda. Edited 13 hours ago by Nordic Saint 9
Harry_SFC Posted 13 hours ago Posted 13 hours ago 1 hour ago, LGTL said: Blackmore doesn’t like Tonda, that much is obvious. Compare his questioning to the cosying up to Martin when we had about 2 points after 25 games in the PL. Night and day. Yeah it's pretty obvious. He won't stop bringing up spygate either. 2
Suhari Posted 13 hours ago Posted 13 hours ago It was a shite question, but does that really matter? Pretty sad if he feels he needs to step away from X. Feels like an overreaction, but who knows what shit messages he was sent. I'd rather he told them to fuck off, and carry on as normal. 1
CB Fry Posted 13 hours ago Posted 13 hours ago 27 minutes ago, Nordic Saint said: Blackmore didn't mind putting Tonda's career in jeopardy though, did he? When we needed the local media to fight our corner, he was one of the first to line up behind Gibbo's Teesside campaign against Tonda. What a load of bollocks. 4
SaintsLoyal Posted 13 hours ago Posted 13 hours ago 36 minutes ago, Nordic Saint said: Blackmore didn't mind putting Tonda's career in jeopardy though, did he? When we needed the local media to fight our corner, he was one of the first to line up behind Gibbo's Teesside campaign against Tonda. What a load of garbage 1
SouthWalesSaints Posted 12 hours ago Posted 12 hours ago 19 minutes ago, CB Fry said: What a load of bollocks. 10 minutes ago, SaintsLoyal said: What a load of garbage Not so sure it was fellas. Said it was the biggest stain in the clubs history. We literally had a pedo coach for 20 years for starters. Tonda was accused of bullying and Adam continued that on without knowing any facts. He continues to tell everyone that he would have sacked Tonda. Tonda doesn’t like him, and I respect tonda for that. I quite like Adam Blackmore and think he does an ok job. But fuck me, he loves being centre of attention. Even this reeks of attention seeking. 6
Suhari Posted 12 hours ago Posted 12 hours ago (edited) 3 minutes ago, SouthWalesSaints said: Not so sure it was fellas. Said it was the biggest stain in the clubs history. We literally had a pedo coach for 20 years for starters. Tonda was accused of bullying and Adam continued that on without knowing any facts. He continues to tell everyone that he would have sacked Tonda. Tonda doesn’t like him, and I respect tonda for that. I quite like Adam Blackmore and think he does an ok job. But fuck me, he loves being centre of attention. Even this reeks of attention seeking. Eh? EDIT......oh yeah, I recall. The massage fella. Edited 12 hours ago by Suhari
Willo of Whiteley Posted 12 hours ago Posted 12 hours ago Deactivating your social media because of abuse as a journo is a little petty. However, it shows what a set of wanders we have as some fans that are that uptight over a largely non-event.
CB Fry Posted 12 hours ago Posted 12 hours ago (edited) 53 minutes ago, SouthWalesSaints said: Not so sure it was fellas. Said it was the biggest stain in the clubs history. We literally had a pedo coach for 20 years for starters. Tonda was accused of bullying and Adam continued that on without knowing any facts. He continues to tell everyone that he would have sacked Tonda. Tonda doesn’t like him, and I respect tonda for that. I quite like Adam Blackmore and think he does an ok job. But fuck me, he loves being centre of attention. Even this reeks of attention seeking. Gets on high horse about someone "not knowing the facts" before the next sentence deciding that Tonda "doesn't like" Blackmore based on nothing. I don’t think bringing Higgins up adds a great deal here either, I think a little classless from you. Blackmore talking about how he would have sacked him is him at least show a consistency of view. He is not hiding or pretending he thought something else for convenience, which is what you get from Talksport divs who just swing in the wind. What Blackmore is not saying at all, is that he would sack him now, so be careful what you are implying. Relegated clubs have 2 chances to get back in the Prem. In first those two seasons we get kicked out of the play offs and in the second we start off four points down. It's not great. Edited 12 hours ago by CB Fry 2
StrangelyBrown Posted 11 hours ago Posted 11 hours ago A dumb question (which begs the question why didn't he do 2 mins of prep??) seriously blown out of all proportion. Tonda dealing with it in a WGS fashion and people reading way too much into it. Blackmore then making himself look like a bit of a tit by harping on a out it on Adam and Joe. Seriously is this anything for anyone to get upset about??? Simply unbelievable that he's felt the need to leave a social media platform - what is wrong with some of the helmets who call themselves fans? 1
SouthWalesSaints Posted 11 hours ago Posted 11 hours ago 40 minutes ago, CB Fry said: Gets on high horse about someone "not knowing the facts" before the next sentence deciding that Tonda "doesn't like" Blackmore based on nothing. I don’t think bringing Higgins up adds a great deal here either, I think a little classless from you. Blackmore talking about how he would have sacked him is him at least show a consistency of view. He is not hiding or pretending he thought something else for convenience, which is what you get from Talksport divs who just swing in the wind. What Blackmore is not saying at all, is that he would sack him now, so be careful what you are implying. Relegated clubs have 2 chances to get back in the Prem. In first those two seasons we get kicked out of the play offs and in the second we start off four points down. It's not great. Not on any high horse at all. You can tell he’s not that keen on him by how he answers his questions versus Alfie and Saints club guy. Again I’m only presuming. But I think that’s fairly obvious. Again … it’s not tasteless to bring up something that is far worse than what Adam & others I’ll add have said is the worst stain in the clubs history. I’d say far worse things have happened and our own local journalist piling on a young man in his first job was at best poor form. Again that’s my opinion. I felt that we needed to be united together. Adam isn’t one of us, he’s an employee of the BBC and that showed during the “scandal of the century”. He’s not saying he would sack him now because it’s bloody obvious that they won’t. I for one felt the question was ok… but what I felt was daft was his continuing to bring it up and then be offended by others not liking his line of questioning. Bizarre behaviour from Adam and he’s let himself down tonight while trying to play the victim. He’s got main character syndrome bless him. 1
CB Fry Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago 7 hours ago, SouthWalesSaints said: Not on any high horse at all. You can tell he’s not that keen on him by how he answers his questions versus Alfie and Saints club guy. Again I’m only presuming. But I think that’s fairly obvious. Again … it’s not tasteless to bring up something that is far worse than what Adam & others I’ll add have said is the worst stain in the clubs history. I’d say far worse things have happened and our own local journalist piling on a young man in his first job was at best poor form. Again that’s my opinion. I felt that we needed to be united together. Adam isn’t one of us, he’s an employee of the BBC and that showed during the “scandal of the century”. He’s not saying he would sack him now because it’s bloody obvious that they won’t. I for one felt the question was ok… but what I felt was daft was his continuing to bring it up and then be offended by others not liking his line of questioning. Bizarre behaviour from Adam and he’s let himself down tonight while trying to play the victim. He’s got main character syndrome bless him. I don't want the BBC Solent Sports Editor to be "one of us" like some on here seem to want him to be. His job is not just to blindly support the club and give it faaack off Steve Gibson faaack off FA etc etc like some dinlow down the pub. 3
coalman Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago There's a difference between leaving social media in a hissy fit because someone disagrees with you and not being allowed to travel in the front of your car because of police advice due to death threats. While Blackmore didn't instigate the witch hunt against Tonda he appeared to be an active and enthusiastic participant in it once it had started. 1
AlexLaw76 Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago Just now, coalman said: There's a difference between leaving social media in a hissy fit because someone disagrees with you and not being allowed to travel in the front of your car because of police advice due to death threats. While Blackmore didn't instigate the witch hunt against Tonda he appeared to be an active and enthusiastic participant in it once it had started. participant in supporting death threats? he simply echoed many fans' view that he should have been sacked in May. 2
coalman Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago 1 minute ago, AlexLaw76 said: participant in supporting death threats? Not what I said 1
AlexLaw76 Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago 2 minutes ago, coalman said: Not what I said hardly a witch hunt either. It was a widely held view outside of Southampton. Many Saints fans thought he should have gone at the time (me included) 1
SaintNewForest Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago Honestly, not sure why we’ve all suddenly turned on Blackmore. I didnt see anything wrong with asking Tonda what rhe majority of us were thinking. I think hes great, and really enjoy listening to him. As for Spygate, how dare he hold an opinion that a lot of Saints fans also shared at the time. Lock him up and throw away the key. Jesus. 6
Toussaint Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago 15 minutes ago, SaintNewForest said: Honestly, not sure why we’ve all suddenly turned on Blackmore. I didnt see anything wrong with asking Tonda what rhe majority of us were thinking. I think hes great, and really enjoy listening to him. As for Spygate, how dare he hold an opinion that a lot of Saints fans also shared at the time. Lock him up and throw away the key. Jesus. It’s a typical saintsweb / social meeja lynch mob mentality, quite scary really how easily people jump on a bandwagon of hatred. 2
Lord Duckhunter Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 1 hour ago, Toussaint said: It’s a typical saintsweb / social meeja lynch mob mentality, quite scary really how easily people jump on a bandwagon of hatred. “Bandwagon of hatred”, some people need to man up. If Blackmore can’t stand the heat he needs to get out of the kitchen, god knows what he’d be like if he faced real hatred. He’s a cockwomble, An Alan Partridge tribute act, but I doubt anybody hates the chump.
Tamesaint Posted 58 minutes ago Posted 58 minutes ago I like Blackmore. His commentary is above average and I like Going home with him and Jo. I don't think he had a good Spygate. At a time when the world was against us and there was a media pile on he could have tried to defend our corner. I am not expecting him to be a fan (although that is clearly a requirement for a North East journalist) but I never heard him offering any sort of mitigation. For example he was questioned on 5 Live about possible Tonda bans and comparisons were drawn with the Canadian women's coach. He didn't point out that a year ban for her meant missing just 3 matches. For example does anyone outside Southampton know that 2 of the 3 members of the EFL court had Middlesbrough connections? He could have mentioned that when questioned about the suitability of a play offs ban on national radio. I would not be surprised if Tonda disliked him. 1
lumuah Posted 50 minutes ago Posted 50 minutes ago 5 minutes ago, Tamesaint said: I would not be surprised if Tonda disliked him. Not that long ago when Blackmore had a nasty eye infection, after an interview Tonda offered to get the club doctor to come and see him. Does that sound like he hates Blackmore? People need to stop making something out of nothing. The internet is becoming a total cesspit that has robbed people of their ability to think. 1
Tamesaint Posted 42 minutes ago Posted 42 minutes ago 3 minutes ago, lumuah said: Not that long ago when Blackmore had a nasty eye infection, after an interview Tonda offered to get the club doctor to come and see him. Does that sound like he hates Blackmore? People need to stop making something out of nothing. The internet is becoming a total cesspit that has robbed people of their ability to think. Hates??? Strong word. Why not dislikes?
Saint86 Posted 19 minutes ago Posted 19 minutes ago (edited) 34 minutes ago, lumuah said: Not that long ago when Blackmore had a nasty eye infection, after an interview Tonda offered to get the club doctor to come and see him. Does that sound like he hates Blackmore? People need to stop making something out of nothing. The internet is becoming a total cesspit that has robbed people of their ability to think. What? like not being able to distinguish between a potentially strained working relationship and an extreme state of loathing/hostility? 😄 As @Tamesaint says above, Blackmore had a poor (i would says extremely) Spygate . I listened to the his post FA spygate special last night on BBC Sounds - even then he was still attacking Tonda over the whole affair, and offered essentially no signs of reflection/apology/embarrassment over his pile on during spygate and his hammering of Tonda for the (false) "bullying" accusations. Its like its oblivious to his own influence/impact and the responsibility that goes with it. He makes his living out of the club - and yet didn't exercise any loyalty at the time. No defense was given, no challenge of the narrative, no highlighting the trumped up bullying charges and lack of evidence. He just spent the whole affair believing every thing that was published in the press, hammering the club and Tonda, calling for him to be sacked, and condemning him for bullying (even when the efl report contained zero evidence of Tonda bullying junior staff). It was all simply quite poor from him. The minimum he should have done is acknowledge he got it wrong and apologized to Tonda over the bullying stuff imho. Blackmore is his own man, is meant to be a journalist, and should have been capable of reading the EFL report himself and seeing the bullying stuff was a blatant stitch up 🤷♂️. He did none of that, showed no ounce of loyalty to the club, and just joined the national media pile on - which (in fairness) would been excusable if he hadn't got it wrong. But the bullying stuff was clearly bollocks at the time, and where we are now, in the face of the FA report and the total lack of EFL evidence at the time, i really do think Blackmore should have taken the time to front up about it and admit he got it wrong. Apart from that, i do enjoy his enthusiasm for the club, his commentary with Tessem, and his podcast material. I don't want him to stop covering the club, everyone is flawed at the end of the day - but he had a mare over Spygate and Eckert, and his inability to own that leaves a sour taste for me. Edited 15 minutes ago by Saint86 4
Willo of Whiteley Posted just now Posted just now 18 minutes ago, Saint86 said: What? like not being able to distinguish between a potentially strained working relationship and an extreme state of loathing/hostility? 😄 As @Tamesaint says above, Blackmore had a poor (i would says extremely) Spygate . I listened to the his post FA spygate special last night on BBC Sounds - even then he was still attacking Tonda over the whole affair, and offered essentially no signs of reflection/apology/embarrassment over his pile on during spygate and his hammering of Tonda for the (false) "bullying" accusations. Its like its oblivious to his own influence/impact and the responsibility that goes with it. He makes his living out of the club - and yet didn't exercise any loyalty at the time. No defense was given, no challenge of the narrative, no highlighting the trumped up bullying charges and lack of evidence. He just spent the whole affair believing every thing that was published in the press, hammering the club and Tonda, calling for him to be sacked, and condemning him for bullying (even when the efl report contained zero evidence of Tonda bullying junior staff). It was all simply quite poor from him. The minimum he should have done is acknowledge he got it wrong and apologized to Tonda over the bullying stuff imho. Blackmore is his own man, is meant to be a journalist, and should have been capable of reading the EFL report himself and seeing the bullying stuff was a blatant stitch up 🤷♂️. He did none of that, showed no ounce of loyalty to the club, and just joined the national media pile on - which (in fairness) would been excusable if he hadn't got it wrong. But the bullying stuff was clearly bollocks at the time, and where we are now, in the face of the FA report and the total lack of EFL evidence at the time, i really do think Blackmore should have taken the time to front up about it and admit he got it wrong. Apart from that, i do enjoy his enthusiasm for the club, his commentary with Tessem, and his podcast material. I don't want him to stop covering the club, everyone is flawed at the end of the day - but he had a mare over Spygate and Eckert, and his inability to own that leaves a sour taste for me. Pretty accurate and fair post that. Im sure he’ll reference it on his commentary this weekend 😂
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