Channon's Sideburns Posted 16 February, 2009 Share Posted 16 February, 2009 What we need now is a grafter, and a fighter in charge of these players. Step forward Peter Reid. Understands this league and what it takes to get out of it. Sunderland A.F.C. Division 1 Champions 95-96 Division 1 Champions 98-99 Currently in Thailand, can't see why he couldn't be persuaded.... BRING HIM IN NOW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyFartPants Posted 16 February, 2009 Share Posted 16 February, 2009 He would surely be taking a huge pay cut and coming back to this grey and cold country. Would you do it for a club you have no affinity with? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scummer Posted 16 February, 2009 Share Posted 16 February, 2009 He would surely be taking a huge pay cut and coming back to this grey and cold country. Would you do it for a club you have no affinity with? He ought to have some affinity, after all he did play for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyFartPants Posted 16 February, 2009 Share Posted 16 February, 2009 He ought to have some affinity, after all he did play for us. A handful of meaningless games at the end of his career to help his mate Branfoot out, saying that if Branfoot was sacked he would walk out, which he did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scott_saints Posted 16 February, 2009 Share Posted 16 February, 2009 We are a soon to be league one club. No chance of us gettng anyone like him! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papa Shango Posted 16 February, 2009 Share Posted 16 February, 2009 It amazes me people still think Reid is anything but an awful manager. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint_stevo Posted 16 February, 2009 Share Posted 16 February, 2009 he sucked. would rather keep Wotte than an out of touch fogey such as Reid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leslie Charteris Posted 16 February, 2009 Share Posted 16 February, 2009 Is my memory playing tricks with me, or wasn't he going to be unveiled as our manager once after Branfoot went but he bottled it at the last moment? Anyway, I don't think he would or could work with HRH Lowe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 16 February, 2009 Share Posted 16 February, 2009 He also failed at Coventry in their final year at Highfield road. I would be happier with him then Wotte mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Channon's Sideburns Posted 16 February, 2009 Author Share Posted 16 February, 2009 he sucked. would rather keep Wotte than an out of touch fogey such as Reid Oh I know...let's have a revolutionary in charge then shall we??? Old Fashioned English Player in keeping Southampton FC up shocker....lightening can strike twice. Some stupid, dud coach who spends more time in the press talking about the 'quality' in the team instead of explaining how the **** he's going to get us out of this speaks volumes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scudamore Posted 16 February, 2009 Share Posted 16 February, 2009 This is a joke right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bakovnetski Posted 16 February, 2009 Share Posted 16 February, 2009 No legs in this. He turned down the opportunity (ruled himself out) to go back to Sunderland when Keane resigned this season. Why would he come to a 2nd/3rd rate team with the same kit colour? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WheresRory Posted 16 February, 2009 Share Posted 16 February, 2009 Reid now has a reptutation of a dinosaur but if you examine his record in more detail it's pretty good. Good at Man City Good at Sunderland Kept Leeds up when they were in freefall Not so good at Cov admittedly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Channon's Sideburns Posted 16 February, 2009 Author Share Posted 16 February, 2009 This is a joke right? More of a joke that Mr Wotte and his public statements of 'there is quality in this side'...hmmm where are we in the league? How many points has 'his' team, not Poortvliet's won??? Interesting, we now just have to hope that Mr Wotte can utilise that 'quality' eh??? I wouldn't put any money on it. Sitting by when we were treading water in November did us **** all good. Where was Wotte with his observations then??? What help, if any, did he give Jan?? **** all. Why? Because he knew he's get the next chance... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wheels Posted 16 February, 2009 Share Posted 16 February, 2009 and he has a monkey's head Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyFartPants Posted 16 February, 2009 Share Posted 16 February, 2009 Reid now has a reptutation of a dinosaur but if you examine his record in more detail it's pretty good. Good at Man City Good at Sunderland Kept Leeds up when they were in freefall Not so good at Cov admittedly I always liked the way his teams played and he always came across as passionate too. The thing is, at the moment it wouldn't make much difference if Alex Fergusson came in. No big changes can be made to the players in such a short period of time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyFartPants Posted 16 February, 2009 Share Posted 16 February, 2009 and he has a monkey's head To the tune of Yellow Submarine, if I am not mistaken. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Channon's Sideburns Posted 16 February, 2009 Author Share Posted 16 February, 2009 I always liked the way his teams played and he always came across as passionate too. The thing is, at the moment it wouldn't make much difference if Alex Fergusson came in. No big changes can be made to the players in such a short period of time. JFP, admittedly you may be right - but we have to give something else a go - Wotte has already given us **** all to be hopeful about in his games in charge. Reid could well be the shot in the arm we need. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenridge Posted 16 February, 2009 Share Posted 16 February, 2009 Reid now has a reptutation of a dinosaur but if you examine his record in more detail it's pretty good. Good at Man City Good at Sunderland Kept Leeds up when they were in freefall Not so good at Cov admittedly Does that include the season he was with them when they were relegated with what was then the record low points tally? I remember them coming down to SMS that season and thinking at least they'll have a good go even though they're obviously struggling. But they came and rolled over with no apparent desire whatsoever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papa Shango Posted 16 February, 2009 Share Posted 16 February, 2009 Reid now has a reptutation of a dinosaur but if you examine his record in more detail it's pretty good. Good at Man City Good at Sunderland Kept Leeds up when they were in freefall Not so good at Cov admittedly Think Man City fans were split on Reid. Apparently he played some awful long ball football, but got results. Good at Sunderland for a while, but put them on their way to relegation. Fans were chucking beer at him towards the end. Leeds were one of the worst Premiership teams ever under Reid. I remember them losing 6-1 to the Skates, 4-0 to Leicester. His record in the transfer market wasn't exactly brilliant either, Roque Junior and Zoumana Camara anyone? He also seems to have a wonderful habit of falling out with nearly all of his players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DT Posted 16 February, 2009 Share Posted 16 February, 2009 beryl reid would be better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint2Hotty Posted 16 February, 2009 Share Posted 16 February, 2009 Reid now has a reptutation of a dinosaur but if you examine his record in more detail it's pretty good. Good at Man City Good at Sunderland Kept Leeds up when they were in freefall Not so good at Cov admittedly To be fair WGS was ****e at Coventry was he not!?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warsash saint Posted 16 February, 2009 Share Posted 16 February, 2009 Joe Royle still alive ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ponty Posted 16 February, 2009 Share Posted 16 February, 2009 Oh dear. Is PR the best we could hope for? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paris Posted 16 February, 2009 Share Posted 16 February, 2009 No thanks NEXT.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Channon's Sideburns Posted 16 February, 2009 Author Share Posted 16 February, 2009 Oh dear. Is PR the best we could hope for? He'd be an improvement on Wotte. In fact, Mike Bassett would be an improvement on Wotte. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint_stevo Posted 16 February, 2009 Share Posted 16 February, 2009 He'd be an improvement on Wotte. In fact' date=' Mike Bassett would be an improvement on Wotte.[/quote'] after about 3 games how can you make this assumption? Would rather have Peter Taylor or Danny Wilson than bloody Peter 'F*ck@ Reid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scudamore Posted 16 February, 2009 Share Posted 16 February, 2009 He'd be an improvement on Wotte. In fact' date=' Mike Bassett would be an improvement on Wotte.[/quote'] So you want us to get someone sh:t in because it's better than the sh:t we have at present? Why not aim to get someone good in because it's better than the sh:t we have at present? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lets B Avenue Posted 16 February, 2009 Share Posted 16 February, 2009 Does that include the season he was with them when they were relegated with what was then the record low points tally? I remember them coming down to SMS that season and thinking at least they'll have a good go even though they're obviously struggling. But they came and rolled over with no apparent desire whatsoever. Wasnt that the Howard Wilkinson/Steve Cotterill dream team? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Channon's Sideburns Posted 16 February, 2009 Author Share Posted 16 February, 2009 So you want us to get someone sh:t in because it's better than the sh:t we have at present? Why not aim to get someone good in because it's better than the sh:t we have at present? Because according to some on here we can't afford to..which is a convenient excuse bearing in mind Lowe wouldn't bring anyone in anyway because it would be a declaration of failure.. We can fill the squad with sh1te (Pulis,Gasmi, Smith,Molyneux), we can pay Rupey and Cowen, and the coaching team can swell more than Ron Jeremy's ****, but we can't afford a Pearson right??? I've seen enough after three games to show that Wotte won't be saving us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scudamore Posted 16 February, 2009 Share Posted 16 February, 2009 Because according to some on here we can't afford to..which is a convenient excuse bearing in mind Lowe wouldn't bring anyone in anyway because it would be a declaration of failure.. We can fill the squad with sh1te (Pulis,Gasmi, Smith,Molyneux), we can pay Rupey and Cowen, and the coaching team can swell more than Ron Jeremy's ****, but we can't afford a Pearson right??? I've seen enough after three games to show that Wotte won't be saving us. Blah... Seriously...Peter Reid? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 16 February, 2009 Share Posted 16 February, 2009 Speak to Dubai Saint - he is mates with Peter Reid! Could pull some strings - big us up a tad!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
offix Posted 16 February, 2009 Share Posted 16 February, 2009 It amazes me people still think Reid is anything but an awful manager. Ditto Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint_stevo Posted 16 February, 2009 Share Posted 16 February, 2009 file this one away in the 'stupid ideas' forum.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintbletch Posted 16 February, 2009 Share Posted 16 February, 2009 and he has a monkey's head It's true - I Google'd it so it must be How about a Peter Reid, Howard Wilkinson, Dave Bassett dream team? That'd be one for the purists. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scudamore Posted 16 February, 2009 Share Posted 16 February, 2009 It's true - I Google'd it so it must be How about a Peter Reid, Howard Wilkinson, Dave Bassett dream team? That'd be one for the purists. I'd prefer a Barry Fry / Ron Atkinson dream team myself... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
once_bitterne Posted 16 February, 2009 Share Posted 16 February, 2009 LOL. Reid is one of the few managers I think could do worse than JP and Wotte. If we are going to dig up a footballing dinosaur why not do it properly and go for David Pleat or Howard Wilkinson. We need something a manager a bit more in-tune with modern football. The obvious candidate who also has a promotion from the CCC on his CV and has played for the club (with a bit more success than the human chimp) is who we should have gone for when we got rid of Gorman and Dodd, Iain Dowie. I'm sure he would jump at the chance to get back in the game instead of covering meaningless matches on Soccer Saturday. Sadly, this doesn't look like it will happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted 16 February, 2009 Share Posted 16 February, 2009 LOL. Reid is one of the few managers I think could do worse than JP and Wotte. If we are going to dig up a footballing dinosaur why not do it properly and go for David Pleat or Howard Wilkinson. We need something a manager a bit more in-tune with modern football. The obvious candidate who also has a promotion from the CCC on his CV and has played for the club (with a bit more success than the human chimp) is who we should have gone for when we got rid of Gorman and Dodd, Iain Dowie. I'm sure he would jump at the chance to get back in the game instead of covering meaningless matches on Soccer Saturday. Sadly, this doesn't look like it will happen. Agree. Why not go the whole hog and bring Branfoot back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 16 February, 2009 Share Posted 16 February, 2009 Lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arizona Posted 16 February, 2009 Share Posted 16 February, 2009 It is going to be hard to find a worse manager than Wotte, but at least we're trying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eurosaint Posted 16 February, 2009 Share Posted 16 February, 2009 As I heard it, Reidy is happy as a little sand boy out there, the paparazzi don't care how p*ssed you are nor how many birds you sh*g ! Also he earns a fair old wedge so the chances of him coming back here to work with an a-hole like Rupsey are non existent ! Thread closed !!!!!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowballs2 Posted 16 February, 2009 Share Posted 16 February, 2009 Reid not a man i would want...he is a clogger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wild-saint Posted 16 February, 2009 Share Posted 16 February, 2009 It does make me laugh on this forum. Most on here slag off wotte saying he is clueless and we are doomed. Then in their next breath most say the team is made up of has beens, also rans and young kids with no ability and no commitment to the cause. It may be both but i do wonder how we know how good Wotte is based on 4 games using players that most have already condemned as not good enough to keep us up. By rights it would take a mangerial genius to keep this squad up if they are as bad as we say they are. From what I read about the quality of the players even Alex ferguson would be doomed to failure. So why change again? Personally I think the team are good enough to stay up but are massively short on confidence and I would have cleared out the entire management team. I guess im just playing devils advocate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wiltshire Saint Posted 16 February, 2009 Share Posted 16 February, 2009 What we need now is a grafter, and a fighter in charge of these players. Step forward Peter Reid. Understands this league and what it takes to get out of it. Sunderland A.F.C. Division 1 Champions 95-96 Division 1 Champions 98-99 Currently in Thailand, can't see why he couldn't be persuaded.... BRING HIM IN NOW I think this is a good idea, but if you want a GREAT idea then you need to look towards Tommy Widdrington. I think Tommy was mentioned a couple of times when Burley was in charge and people laughed, saying he lacked experience and that we needed someone better. Well, now we have established that we have no money and that we are going to be a L1 team. Maybe now it seems more sensible for Tommy Widdrington's name to be thrown in? The passion he would bring to the club is what would make us great again. COYTW!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalek2003 Posted 16 February, 2009 Share Posted 16 February, 2009 Cheer up Peter reid, Oh what can it mean, To a day dream believer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kadeem Hardison Posted 16 February, 2009 Share Posted 16 February, 2009 Tommy Widdrington is the only person that can unite the fans and drive this club forward, IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junction 9 Posted 16 February, 2009 Share Posted 16 February, 2009 I too would like to put my support behind the Widdrington proposal. He ticks all the right boxes if you ask me and wouldn't be a financial burden on the club. Give him a go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WheresRory Posted 16 February, 2009 Share Posted 16 February, 2009 Think Man City fans were split on Reid. Apparently he played some awful long ball football, but got results. Good at Sunderland for a while, but put them on their way to relegation. Fans were chucking beer at him towards the end. Leeds were one of the worst Premiership teams ever under Reid. I remember them losing 6-1 to the Skates, 4-0 to Leicester. His record in the transfer market wasn't exactly brilliant either, Roque Junior and Zoumana Camara anyone? He also seems to have a wonderful habit of falling out with nearly all of his players. Having looked into it in more detail at City he finished 5th twice (both time finishing above Utd), the next season he finished 9th. At Sunderland they were (as you are now) in a relegation scrap from the (now) championship when he arrived. They stayed up. Next season they were promoted. Relegation followed, then losing in the play-offs and eventually promotion as champions with a then record points tally. The next few years they were prem regulars including two 7th place finishes. He was sacked before they were relegated (October of the season) so it'd be harsh to associate him completely with the record low points tally. At Leeds he started well and kept them up, being sacked the season after. In my opinion Leeds were in a terminal decline at this point and his replacements had no greater success rectifying it. He was at Coventry for eight months before being sacked. Again since his departure name managers have done no better. Now it clearly has tailed away a bit but that is a far more impressive CV than someone like Curbishly. Capello he clearly isn't but he'd have to be the luckiest manager around to be a mug and acheiev what he has. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steeleye Saint Posted 16 February, 2009 Share Posted 16 February, 2009 It is going to be hard to find a worse manager than Wotte, but at least we're trying. It really amazes me that people can condemn Wotte after only 3 games! The players he has to work with were not signed by him - but he is at least doing what everyone said should be done at the start of the season, playing experience with the "best" of the youngsters. I think he has more of a clue than Poortvliet did and we're not going to get anyone else before the end of the season so what's the point in slagging him off? Who knows, if those two shots that hit the post on Saturday had gone in we'd all be singing his praises! Back off ffs! The damage was done in the first half of the season and I don't think anyone could get us out of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Channon's Sideburns Posted 16 February, 2009 Author Share Posted 16 February, 2009 It really amazes me that people can condemn Wotte after only 3 games! The players he has to work with were not signed by him - but he is at least doing what everyone said should be done at the start of the season, playing experience with the "best" of the youngsters. I think he has more of a clue than Poortvliet did and we're not going to get anyone else before the end of the season so what's the point in slagging him off? Who knows, if those two shots that hit the post on Saturday had gone in we'd all be singing his praises! Back off ffs! The damage was done in the first half of the season and I don't think anyone could get us out of it. I'll back of Wotte a little when he manages to win a ****ing game. Oh the old 'damage already done' chestnut - does that mean we can lose all games between now and the end of the season then???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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