saint_stevo Posted 10 March, 2009 Share Posted 10 March, 2009 What is with people and standing up? Sat in the itchen, block 4 and people throw there dummy out when they get asked to sit down then hurl a barrage of abuse at the stewards. Happened most of the first half and ****ed me right off Quite Pathetic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hamster Posted 11 March, 2009 Share Posted 11 March, 2009 ****ed me off having to see that massive Derby banner, whilst listeing to them singing about the empty seats! They confiscated my "**** is a budgie" one the other year, and it was only the size of a bed sheet. Re standing, it looked like the Northam were shown lenience tonight too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
for_heaven's_Saint Posted 11 March, 2009 Share Posted 11 March, 2009 What is with people and standing up? Sat in the itchen, block 4 and people throw there dummy out when they get asked to sit down then hurl a barrage of abuse at the stewards. Happened most of the first half and ****ed me right off Quite Pathetic I wasn't there tonight but, generally speaking, I like to stand up at games. The reason people get annoyed and 'throw their dummy out' is generally because of inconsistencies within the stewarding. There's nothing more annoying than being told to sit down when you can see opposing/other fans standing up. I can see why it could hack you off that people kick up such a fuss, especially in itchen block 4, nevertheless I can understand people getting annoyed when they are told to sit down if they can see that the stewards clearly have double standards when it comes to others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 11 March, 2009 Share Posted 11 March, 2009 ****ed me off having to see that massive Derby banner, whilst listeing to them singing about the empty seats! They confiscated my "**** is a budgie" one the other year, and it was only the size of a bed sheet. Re standing, it looked like the Northam were shown lenience tonight too. No, stewards were trying to get them to sit down all game long but never got further than row K before the people in front stood up again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StuRomseySaint Posted 11 March, 2009 Share Posted 11 March, 2009 What is with people and standing up? Sat in the itchen, block 4 and people throw there dummy out when they get asked to sit down then hurl a barrage of abuse at the stewards. Happened most of the first half and ****ed me right off Quite Pathetic It is pathetic that you don't like it. Why don't you move somewhere else? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
northam soul Posted 11 March, 2009 Share Posted 11 March, 2009 What is with people and standing up? Sat in the itchen, block 4 and people throw there dummy out when they get asked to sit down then hurl a barrage of abuse at the stewards. Happened most of the first half and ****ed me right off Quite Pathetic What was this your first game then as i have sat or rather stood there all season. And yes it ****es people off when one game they dont bother and the next they are all over you like a rash .What a few of us really find annoying is that we were forced to moved from block 2 to cut stewarding and policing costs yet they are still there in block 4 with the away fans 50 yards away so what difference has it made, when you get a decent away following they are there anyway so in my opinion shutting block 1,2,3 has made no difference other than to alienate some fans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowballs2 Posted 11 March, 2009 Share Posted 11 March, 2009 What is with people and standing up? Sat in the itchen, block 4 and people throw there dummy out when they get asked to sit down then hurl a barrage of abuse at the stewards. Happened most of the first half and ****ed me right off Quite Pathetic The law is the law...you cannot be selective in which laws you want to accept!. You may not like it but that is fact and reality born out of the Hilsborough disaster nobody wants repeating Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowballs2 Posted 11 March, 2009 Share Posted 11 March, 2009 I wasn't there tonight but' date=' generally speaking, I like to stand up at games. The reason people get annoyed and 'throw [i']their[/i] dummy out' is generally because of inconsistencies within the stewarding. There's nothing more annoying than being told to sit down when you can see opposing/other fans standing up. I can see why it could hack you off that people kick up such a fuss, especially in itchen block 4, nevertheless I can understand people getting annoyed when they are told to sit down if they can see that the stewards clearly have double standards when it comes to others. So you are not prepared to accept the laws of this country ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StuRomseySaint Posted 11 March, 2009 Share Posted 11 March, 2009 Out of around 35 blocks which are open in the home ends, only blocks 4, 40, 41 and 42 are affected by people standing. What is the most pathetic thing is people that go and sit in these blocks then complain about people standing! It's like someone moving next to a railway line then campaigning to close it because of the noise! If you dont want to stand Stevo then can I suggest you take your pick our of blocks 5-39 where you will be able to sit in peace? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StuRomseySaint Posted 11 March, 2009 Share Posted 11 March, 2009 So you are not prepared to accept the laws of this country ? *yawn* I bet you're a right giggle in the pub! Oh, and standing up in a seated area is not 'the law' , it's a ground regulation, upon which the stewards exercise their discretion, as has happened in the Northam on a number of occasions this seasons, where stewards have left fans to stand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a1ex2001 Posted 11 March, 2009 Share Posted 11 March, 2009 You may not like it but that is fact and reality born out of the Hilsborough disaster nobody wants repeating I wish people would stop dragging this tired old one back up, Hilsborough was a tradgedy but I can never be repeated in a modern stadium becuase there are no fences, it was the fences that killed people not the lack of seats. I can see both sides of the argument, the obsession with standing just to prove a point iritates me but I can't see why we can't have a safe standing debate in this country. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
londonsaint1604 Posted 11 March, 2009 Share Posted 11 March, 2009 So you are not prepared to accept the laws of this country ? Not when they are as pointless and senseless as that one, no! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole Posted 11 March, 2009 Share Posted 11 March, 2009 So you are not prepared to accept the laws of this country ? Aha, so it's you i always get stuck behind when driving to work. 30 in a 30 ffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint_stevo Posted 11 March, 2009 Author Share Posted 11 March, 2009 what does standing up give you that sitting down doesn't? Am i missing something? it f*cked me off, i can't stand for long periods cos of a dodgy knee and i was with my old man, who cant stand for long either. As for 'if you want to sit down, sit elsewhere' i was under the impression SMS was all seater? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StuRomseySaint Posted 11 March, 2009 Share Posted 11 March, 2009 what does standing up give you that sitting down doesn't? Am i missing something? it f*cked me off, i can't stand for long periods cos of a dodgy knee and i was with my old man, who cant stand for long either. As for 'if you want to sit down, sit elsewhere' i was under the impression SMS was all seater? It is all seater, but any Saints fans know that out of the THIRTY FIVE blocks open to Saints fans, 4 of them tend to have spectators who prefer to stand. So Stevo, pick one of the other THIRTY ONE blocks which are open, or hows about you could have simply moved?? Gone to the front? Gone and sit in another block? It's not like there are not any spare seats is it?!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint_stevo Posted 11 March, 2009 Author Share Posted 11 March, 2009 It is all seater, but any Saints fans know that out of the THIRTY FIVE blocks open to Saints fans, 4 of them tend to have spectators who prefer to stand. So Stevo, pick one of the other THIRTY ONE blocks which are open, or hows about you could have simply moved?? Gone to the front? Gone and sit in another block? It's not like there are not any spare seats is it?!? Why should i have to move because a bunch of idiots want to stand up and hurl abuse at stewards when asked to sit down? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aintforever Posted 11 March, 2009 Share Posted 11 March, 2009 Why should i have to move because a bunch of idiots want to stand up and hurl abuse at stewards when asked to sit down? To get away from a bunch of idiots? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papa Shango Posted 11 March, 2009 Share Posted 11 March, 2009 I don't know what you're complaining about. As SRS says, you must surely know by now which sections fans like to stand in and which like to sit down? You know full well that some people like to stand in the Itchen North, there's plenty of other places you can sit. I'm glad we have at least some sections stood up during games. Makes for a much better atmosphere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aintforever Posted 11 March, 2009 Share Posted 11 March, 2009 It's about time something was done about the rediculous no-standing rule. the idea that standing up is in some way unsafe is just laughable. If it is safe to stand up and jump about when a goal goes in it is safe to stand up. The law is an ass, the only people who think it's not are a bunch of £3 an hour jobsworth stewards and a few anal retentives on here. I pay good money for my season ticket and should be able to choose wether I want to stand or sit while I get ripped off. Designated standing areas is the way forward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evil Monkey Posted 11 March, 2009 Share Posted 11 March, 2009 I stood for the whole game so that my arms were then more free for when I needed to flail them about in outrage of the shocking decisions the referee kept making. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StuRomseySaint Posted 11 March, 2009 Share Posted 11 March, 2009 Why should i have to move because a bunch of idiots want to stand up and hurl abuse at stewards when asked to sit down? So you are not sat near a 'bunch of idiots' obscuring your view. There is 3 other blocks in the stadium that were open that would have given you the same view. There is 35 blocks that are not affected by standing fans. Don't go in sit in the 10% that do stand then moan, when you could be sitting in 90% of other seats and not be affected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mao Cap Posted 11 March, 2009 Share Posted 11 March, 2009 What Stu and aintforever said. Not as if there's a lack of space to move around these days, is it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Block 5 Posted 11 March, 2009 Share Posted 11 March, 2009 Go sit somewhere else and stfu. Incidentally, it was good to see a section of Kingsland north standing, and singing last night. I take back all I said about Kingsland being the domain of the thermos/blanket brigade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Who? Posted 11 March, 2009 Share Posted 11 March, 2009 Now I can see both parts of this argument and it will not go away. This is why there is a need for a safe standing section at football as there is quite clearly a demand for it. I think that safe standing (Having an allocated section where you stand and no seats in this area the way forward). I am not talking about old terraces as this would not be safe. This way people who want to stand can stand and people who want/need to sit can sit. I am in favour of standing at football, but when the game gets a little boring I do like to sit down. there has to be a solution as there is a demand for standing and this needs to be addresses because as it is it is NOT safe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sperm_john Posted 11 March, 2009 Share Posted 11 March, 2009 im pro standing, prefer it for some reason, i just go with the flow usually if people are standing il stand if people are sitting il sit ....lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 11 March, 2009 Share Posted 11 March, 2009 Go sit somewhere else and stfu. Incidentally, it was good to see a section of Kingsland north standing, and singing last night. I take back all I said about Kingsland being the domain of the thermos/blanket brigade. I hate it when people around me stand and sing...... .... it keeps me awake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole Posted 11 March, 2009 Share Posted 11 March, 2009 Saint Stevo was this the first game you've been to at st marys? If not you must be a thick as **** choosing the Northam if you want to sit down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank's cousin Posted 11 March, 2009 Share Posted 11 March, 2009 Out of around 35 blocks which are open in the home ends, only blocks 4, 40, 41 and 42 are affected by people standing. What is the most pathetic thing is people that go and sit in these blocks then complain about people standing! It's like someone moving next to a railway line then campaigning to close it because of the noise! If you dont want to stand Stevo then can I suggest you take your pick our of blocks 5-39 where you will be able to sit in peace? Do you have to be so obnoxious? Standing is part of football culture for sure and we should all campaign to get safe standing back into grounds like they have in Germany, but its the law right now to sit down EVERYWHERE, so if someone pays their money and buys a ticket in a seated area, why should they not be entitled to sit and expect everyone else to sit? Plain daft Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 11 March, 2009 Share Posted 11 March, 2009 Do you have to be so obnoxious? Standing is part of football culture for sure and we should all campaign to get safe standing back into grounds like they have in Germany, but its the law right now to sit down EVERYWHERE, so if someone pays their money and buys a ticket in a seated area, why should they not be entitled to sit and expect everyone else to sit? Plain daft Does this logic apply to venturing into any area in the country where crime is known to happen or just SMS? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bungle Posted 11 March, 2009 Share Posted 11 March, 2009 It is, of course, my duty to point out that there is one political party who would legalise safe standing areas in football grounds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papa Shango Posted 11 March, 2009 Share Posted 11 March, 2009 Saint Stevo was this the first game you've been to at st marys? If not you must be a thick as **** choosing the Northam if you want to sit down. He was in the Itchen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint_stevo Posted 11 March, 2009 Author Share Posted 11 March, 2009 Saint Stevo was this the first game you've been to at st marys? If not you must be a thick as **** choosing the Northam if you want to sit down. read the thread you moron and pipe the f*ck down Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ooohTerryHurlock Posted 11 March, 2009 Share Posted 11 March, 2009 ****ed me off having to see that massive Derby banner, whilst listeing to them singing about the empty seats! They confiscated my "**** is a budgie" one the other year, and it was only the size of a bed sheet. Re standing, it looked like the Northam were shown lenience tonight too. We had our umbrella confiscated when we went there - but then again Derby is a **** hole where it rains all the time so it was probably better they had it as they would get better use out of it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSaint75 Posted 11 March, 2009 Share Posted 11 March, 2009 What if Stevo had an s/t last year before the corner closure and before people started standing, should he still move or should everyone else? What ****e5 me off is the morons who 'sing sit down if you hate the saints', what kind of *****r says that at a home football match. I suspect these are the same morons that try to start a song and get the tune wrong or sing out of time with the Northam, especially when singing the slow OWTS, that didn't work once last night and sounded very poor rant over thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint_stevo Posted 11 March, 2009 Author Share Posted 11 March, 2009 What if Stevo had an s/t last year before the corner closure and before people started standing, should he still move or should everyone else? What ****e5 me off is the morons who 'sing sit down if you hate the saints', what kind of *****r says that at a home football match. I suspect these are the same morons that try to start a song and get the tune wrong or sing out of time with the Northam, especially when singing the slow OWTS, that didn't work once last night and sounded very poor rant over thanks I didnt, but that is the point i was kinda trying to make.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anothersaintinsouthsea Posted 11 March, 2009 Share Posted 11 March, 2009 Next time I go to SMS I shall buy a ticket in the Northam. I will sit the whole game and expect everyone around to do so as well. If they don't I shall request them to sit in accordance with ground regulations. I'll report back on here how I get on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan The Flames Posted 11 March, 2009 Share Posted 11 March, 2009 It would have been less effort to move than it would to spark your computer up and type your OP. How about compromise, people know the the standing is an issue amoung some fans. Its a valid issue in my opinion, so if it annoys you the right thing to do would be to move the few yards to a sitting area. I'm sorry Steve your point is very weak. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hamster Posted 11 March, 2009 Share Posted 11 March, 2009 Next time I go to SMS I shall buy a ticket in the Northam. I will sit the whole game and expect everyone around to do so as well. If they don't I shall request them to sit in accordance with ground regulations. I'll report back on here how I get on. Your lack of feeding back will sufice as feedback I reckon. Plus the following threads re fans fighting each other in the Northam being reborn Fwiw, I stand and sit according to the ebb and flow of the game. Occasionally ONE bloke behind me says "sit down, sit down". I generally ignore him until the excitement has died down, then give him the 'look'. I think that we kind of understand each other, but if push came to shove I would most likely engagae him in conversation until we found common ground. He also has an annoying habit of shouting "Good ball" shortly followed by "Bad ball", it is annoying and DOES spoil my enjoyment sometimes, I accept this and do not tell him to shut up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krissyboy31 Posted 11 March, 2009 Share Posted 11 March, 2009 He also has an annoying habit of shouting "Good ball" shortly followed by "Bad ball". Lol. I think we're all guilty of that but more likely to shout "Poor Ball" shortly followed by "Sh!t Ball", then followed by "What the Fnck Was That?!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red&white4life Posted 11 March, 2009 Share Posted 11 March, 2009 My ST is in block 4 row X and if anyone in the seats in front of me stood i would ensure they were ejected from the ground. Col. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
londonsaint1604 Posted 12 March, 2009 Share Posted 12 March, 2009 My ST is in block 4 row X and if anyone in the seats in front of me stood i would ensure they were ejected from the ground. Col. Even when there's a goal or something exciting happens? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
northam soul Posted 12 March, 2009 Share Posted 12 March, 2009 My ST is in block 4 row X and if anyone in the seats in front of me stood i would ensure they were ejected from the ground. Col. I hope your jesting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
graymalkin33 Posted 12 March, 2009 Share Posted 12 March, 2009 I have a question for the standing guys. IF the govt were to allow terraces back in football stadia and Saints pulled up some seats to make a terrace at one end of the ground, would the people that like to stand go and stand in the designated area or would they stay where they are and stand up in which ever stand they have always used? I personally find it v anoying if people stand up, cos i prefer to sit. I pay for a seat and ofcourse if one person stands up then people around him have to stand up and it all goes pear shaped. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Griffo Posted 12 March, 2009 Share Posted 12 March, 2009 I don't think I have sat at a football game in years (Only missed 3 h/a this season). I ****ing hate having to sit. Means we hardly sing and makes for a ****e atmosphere. Birmingham was pretty poor on Saturday atmosphere wise, due to most people sitting. Whereas our support when we all stand is, I believe, amongst the top in the country. Whenever I do have to sit I'll always move up the back anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mao Cap Posted 12 March, 2009 Share Posted 12 March, 2009 I have a question for the standing guys. IF the govt were to allow terraces back in football stadia and Saints pulled up some seats to make a terrace at one end of the ground, would the people that like to stand go and stand in the designated area or would they stay where they are and stand up in which ever stand they have always used? I personally find it v anoying if people stand up, cos i prefer to sit. I pay for a seat and ofcourse if one person stands up then people around him have to stand up and it all goes pear shaped. If it was the Chapel end that became a standing area then at least 80% of the standing fans in the Northam and Itchen would go there without a doubt - the remaining 20% would be people up the back by the away fans, who want to "give it large" to them rather than just stand, sing etc. but it would effectively eliminate the problem whilst improving the atmosphere. No-one has ever gone to a game for the purpose of standing in front of someone who wants to sit and ****ing them off; if given the choice This situation is entirely the fault of the Football Licensing Authority. Since the late 90s they've spouted their painfully nonsensical "domino effect" theory, as the number of fans who choose to stand increases year on year, and now they've got themselves into a corner and can't admit that the reasons they gave for not considering standing areas were bullsh*t. So the same daft impasse goes on - standing fans get incessantly harrassed and threatened, even though it's impossible to make everyone sit down without causing trouble for no good reason; sitting fans in areas where fans are standing have to put up with having their view blocked; the stewards themselves (a small number of whom enjoy bullying people but who are mostly decent blokes just doing their jobs) are spending vast amounts of time engaged with enforcing this stupid rule rather than watching out for anything that could actually cause any harm. The fact that the problem could be solved anytime the authorities feel like it is what makes it the most frustrating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pilsburydoughboy Posted 12 March, 2009 Share Posted 12 March, 2009 What is with people and standing up? Sat in the itchen, block 4 and people throw there dummy out when they get asked to sit down then hurl a barrage of abuse at the stewards. Happened most of the first half and ****ed me right off Quite Pathetic Have you got a ticket for Sat in block four. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pilsburydoughboy Posted 12 March, 2009 Share Posted 12 March, 2009 I have a question for the standing guys. IF the govt were to allow terraces back in football stadia and Saints pulled up some seats to make a terrace at one end of the ground, would the people that like to stand go and stand in the designated area or would they stay where they are and stand up in which ever stand they have always used? I personally find it v anoying if people stand up, cos i prefer to sit. I pay for a seat and ofcourse if one person stands up then people around him have to stand up and it all goes pear shaped. I pay to go to football. If i pay to go to a concert i dont make use of the seat. I enjoy the football experience which involves passion for which i apologies for having but i cant help standing up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintjinksie Posted 12 March, 2009 Share Posted 12 March, 2009 what does standing up give you that sitting down doesn't? Am i missing something? it f*cked me off, i can't stand for long periods cos of a dodgy knee and i was with my old man, who cant stand for long either. As for 'if you want to sit down, sit elsewhere' i was under the impression SMS was all seater? zzzzzzzzzzzzzz.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 12 March, 2009 Share Posted 12 March, 2009 The law is the law...you cannot be selective in which laws you want to accept!. You may not like it but that is fact and reality born out of the Hilsborough disaster nobody wants repeating the law is an arse, if it is safe to walk to your seat, safe to stand up when you go home and safe to stand up during exciting moments then it is safe to stand full stop. Bull**** laws like this are there to be questioned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 12 March, 2009 Share Posted 12 March, 2009 Do you have to be so obnoxious? Standing is part of football culture for sure and we should all campaign to get safe standing back into grounds like they have in Germany, but its the law right now to sit down EVERYWHERE, so if someone pays their money and buys a ticket in a seated area, why should they not be entitled to sit and expect everyone else to sit? Plain daft behave, if you don't want to be annoyed by people that want to stand up then don't sit right next to them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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