alpine_saint Posted 9 June, 2009 Share Posted 9 June, 2009 Just because the period of exclusivity is 21 days, does it HAVE TO take 21 days ??? I really wonder about the procrastinating in British commerce sometimes... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wade Garrett Posted 9 June, 2009 Share Posted 9 June, 2009 It's only ball achingly slow and frustrating for numpties who seem to have let it take over their lives. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilchards Posted 9 June, 2009 Share Posted 9 June, 2009 A new thread WHY? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derry Posted 9 June, 2009 Share Posted 9 June, 2009 Just like buying a property etc. In the end 21 days might not be enough for the lawyers especially with at least three properties and a number of trading companies. I'll just be happy to see it happen in the end. It certainly makes it easier by not coming on here so much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alain Perrin Posted 9 June, 2009 Share Posted 9 June, 2009 Ask Lloyds TSB about the dangers of rushing takeovers. I suspect it will go on past 21 days, so suck it up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iansums Posted 9 June, 2009 Share Posted 9 June, 2009 If things in the UK are so bad then why don't you f*** off and go and live in another country?................ .......oh you have!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 9 June, 2009 Author Share Posted 9 June, 2009 It's only ball achingly slow and frustrating for numpties who seem to have let it take over their lives. I havent, hence my absence from here recently, but come on, why does everything related to our club have to reach the highest levels of circus performance ??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derry Posted 9 June, 2009 Share Posted 9 June, 2009 The bloke made a valid remark. I expect most people feel the same way. This is by no means a done deal yet. The biggest test is going to be paying over an enormous amount of money and that has still to happen. There has to be doubts over any deal connected with the club until they are closed out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Fan CaM Posted 9 June, 2009 Share Posted 9 June, 2009 The bloke made a valid remark. I expect most people feel the same way. This is by no means a done deal yet. The biggest test is going to be paying over an enormous amount of money and that has still to happen. There has to be doubts over any deal connected with the club until they are closed out. Well said...the agony it seems is far from over yet and the silence from the club is telling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itchen Posted 9 June, 2009 Share Posted 9 June, 2009 Well said...the agony it seems is far from over yet and the silence from the club is telling. And what does it say? That work is proceeding to tie up the deal. I don't expect a daily running commentary from the club or Pinnacle. I'm as impatient for it all to be finshed as the next person but I'd rather that the lawyers and accountants just got on with their jobs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilchards Posted 9 June, 2009 Share Posted 9 June, 2009 You would not be discussing players, backroom staff if it was going tits up so just get out and do something as time will pass quicker for the worried ones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Puddings and Monkeys Posted 9 June, 2009 Share Posted 9 June, 2009 Well said...the agony it seems is far from over yet and the silence from the club is telling. Why is the silence telling, and what does it tell us? The club have nothing really to say as it's Pinnacle doing all the work and they will no doubt still be bound by NDAs which is a sound and sensible approach. Didn't Pinnacle say they would communicate more when they could? Just let them get on with their work - they're in the best position to deal with things aren't they? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
INFLUENCED.COM Posted 9 June, 2009 Share Posted 9 June, 2009 Well said...the agony it seems is far from over yet and the silence from the club is telling. The man heading up the deal posted on here c.72hrs ago stating all is well don't listen to the billsh1t, he may be full of it himself, however, how close to the proceedings does someone need to be to offer information in respect of progress, I understand some are not happy unless they receive hourly updates but lets get some perspective. Clearly some are out to rubbish Pinnacle and the deal, Crouch quashing the most recent rumour, I expect there are problems, why would it be plain sailing its a complex process hence solicitor 's' involved. The longer it goes on the more we will have to post about the most recent rumour in circulation(as long as a deal gets done of course) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wade Garrett Posted 9 June, 2009 Share Posted 9 June, 2009 I havent, hence my absence from here recently, but come on, why does everything related to our club have to reach the highest levels of circus performance ??? Because some people spend too much time on this forum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Fan CaM Posted 9 June, 2009 Share Posted 9 June, 2009 And what does it say? That work is proceeding to tie up the deal. I don't expect a daily running commentary from the club or Pinnacle. I'm as impatient for it all to be finshed as the next person but I'd rather that the lawyers and accountants just got on with their jobs. Why is the silence telling, and what does it tell us? The club have nothing really to say as it's Pinnacle doing all the work and they will no doubt still be bound by NDAs which is a sound and sensible approach. Didn't Pinnacle say they would communicate more when they could? Just let them get on with their work - they're in the best position to deal with things aren't they? The man heading up the deal posted on here c.72hrs ago stating all is well don't listen to the billsh1t, he may be full of it himself, however, how close to the proceedings does someone need to be to offer information in respect of progress, I understand some are not happy unless they receive hourly updates but lets get some perspective. Clearly some are out to rubbish Pinnacle and the deal, Crouch quashing the most recent rumour, I expect there are problems, why would it be plain sailing its a complex process hence solicitor 's' involved. The longer it goes on the more we will have to post about the most recent rumour in circulation(as long as a deal gets done of course) Perhaps - just perhaps - I was inferring that the silence was due to the hard work going on in the background? Jeez...some of you are so wound up you jump down others throats so readily... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pancake Posted 9 June, 2009 Share Posted 9 June, 2009 Well said...the agony it seems is far from over yet and the silence from the club is telling. One assumes you have never had the 'joy' of buying a house. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
INFLUENCED.COM Posted 9 June, 2009 Share Posted 9 June, 2009 some of you are so wound up you jump down others throats so readily... Not the intent of my post, the rumour mill will keep this place lively, oh, and I don't believe for a moment thats what you meant Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bungle Posted 9 June, 2009 Share Posted 9 June, 2009 The story of alpine: -Hero worships Mark Fry, even building a small shrine to him in his wardrobe. -Mark Fry is "worst administrator ever" and "doesn't have a clue" and should "bloody well get on with it" - Pinnacle group is the greatest thing ever "I told you so, adminstration was great" - Pinnacle should be able to complete a take over within 5 minutes "why the hell does it take someone more than a cup of tea and a biscuit to complete a takeover Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doggface Posted 9 June, 2009 Share Posted 9 June, 2009 Yes it would be good if the deal was already done, however that would be unrealistic & patience is needed. TL has communicated when he can, which is more than he has to do. Things are clearly moving in the right direction & no news is good news. The build up to exclusivity was agony for me, & although not completed yet I remain calm about the situation & have trust in Pinnacle to deliver on their exciting plans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scudamore Posted 9 June, 2009 Share Posted 9 June, 2009 The story of alpine: -Hero worships Mark Fry, even building a small shrine to him in his wardrobe. -Mark Fry is "worst administrator ever" and "doesn't have a clue" and should "bloody well get on with it" - Pinnacle group is the greatest thing ever "I told you so, adminstration was great" - Pinnacle should be able to complete a take over within 5 minutes "why the hell does it take someone more than a cup of tea and a biscuit to complete a takeover Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Puddings and Monkeys Posted 9 June, 2009 Share Posted 9 June, 2009 Perhaps - just perhaps - I was inferring that the silence was due to the hard work going on in the background? Liar liar pants are on fire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 9 June, 2009 Share Posted 9 June, 2009 I havent, hence my absence from here recently, but come on, why does everything related to our club have to reach the highest levels of circus performance ??? hardly circus, most discrete takeover going - one statement from Fry, one from Lynam, all positive -no media circus. You couldn't buy house (usually) in 21 days why are you expecting multi million company to be quicker? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itchen Posted 9 June, 2009 Share Posted 9 June, 2009 Perhaps - just perhaps - I was inferring that the silence was due to the hard work going on in the background? Jeez...some of you are so wound up you jump down others throats so readily... You may have been implying it, I suppose. I certainly didn't infer it though. :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 9 June, 2009 Author Share Posted 9 June, 2009 The story of alpine: -Hero worships Mark Fry, even building a small shrine to him in his wardrobe. -Mark Fry is "worst administrator ever" and "doesn't have a clue" and should "bloody well get on with it" - Pinnacle group is the greatest thing ever "I told you so, adminstration was great" - Pinnacle should be able to complete a take over within 5 minutes "why the hell does it take someone more than a cup of tea and a biscuit to complete a takeover Normal roller-coaster of emotions relating to the ups and downs of something I care about. Exactly the same as a tight game of football Your problem is what, exactly ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 9 June, 2009 Author Share Posted 9 June, 2009 Oh yes, the pinnacle of wit to a media studies stoodent.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toomer Posted 9 June, 2009 Share Posted 9 June, 2009 I would like it to be tied up ASAP, but at the end of the day if it takes a little longer so be it, if that means they have every thing in place and we know what direction we are going in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank's cousin Posted 9 June, 2009 Share Posted 9 June, 2009 In a word Lawyers are involved - why do it all in 10 hours when you can string it out for 21 days + and kaching kaching kaching ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 9 June, 2009 Author Share Posted 9 June, 2009 In a word Lawyers are involved - why do it all in 10 hours when you can string it out for 21 days + and kaching kaching kaching ;-) Probably something like that, but there is also a more sinsiter interpretation, that not everthing is a peachy as is being made out... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krissyboy31 Posted 9 June, 2009 Share Posted 9 June, 2009 In a word Lawyers are involved - why do it all in 10 hours when you can string it out for 21 days + and kaching kaching kaching ;-) They should have got the Lawyers/Solicitors on a fixed rate. That would have hurried them up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burger Posted 9 June, 2009 Share Posted 9 June, 2009 Probably something like that, but there is also a more sinsiter interpretation, that not everthing is a peachy as is being made out... All will be revealed before this weekend......then you can start moaning about the new owner (who will be taking a back-seat) and the manager and the lack of time to prepare for the new season...and.....well I'm sure you'll find much more. ......For me it is a new start and everyone involved with the club will get my support 100% and I'll try my best to be positive about everything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintstr1 Posted 9 June, 2009 Share Posted 9 June, 2009 Fry gave them a deadline of 21days, so dont expect any news untill 20 days, 23 hours & 59 minutes have passed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheaf Saint Posted 9 June, 2009 Share Posted 9 June, 2009 Probably something like that, but there is also a more sinsiter interpretation, that not everthing is a peachy as is being made out... I think you are making something out of nothing Alpine. I know from first hand experience how painfully slow lawyers operate. De-listing a PLC and transferring it to private ownership doesn't happen overnight. Patience my young apprentice, patience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bungle Posted 9 June, 2009 Share Posted 9 June, 2009 Normal roller-coaster of emotions relating to the ups and downs of something I care about. Exactly the same as a tight game of football Your problem is what, exactly ? You don't know what you're on about. You clearly don't understand the role of an administrator; you have clearly never paid attention to what has happened at clubs in administration in the past; and you contridict yourself every 26 seconds. As for tight games of football: you don't go to them, so what does it matter? You are probably eating a cheese sarnie at the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scudamore Posted 9 June, 2009 Share Posted 9 June, 2009 Oh yes, the pinnacle of wit to a media studies stoodent.. Indeed...and the furthest you can stretch to is repeatedly calling me something i'm not...schoolboy stuff... Which is probably where your education ended if that's the best you can come up with... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iansums Posted 9 June, 2009 Share Posted 9 June, 2009 I think you are making something out of nothing Alpine. No change there then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlie saint Posted 9 June, 2009 Share Posted 9 June, 2009 ...The biggest test is going to be paying over an enormous amount of money and that has still to happen. Well, Paul Scally bought Gillingham FC for ONE of your English Pounds. So... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smirking_Saint Posted 9 June, 2009 Share Posted 9 June, 2009 I think you are making something out of nothing Alpine. I know from first hand experience how painfully slow lawyers operate. De-listing a PLC and transferring it to private ownership doesn't happen overnight. Patience my young apprentice, patience. Too bloody right, it does not surprise me how long it is taking one bit. It is pretty annoying though, and i have pretty much lost all interest in it now. Still, hopefully it will be alright in the end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 9 June, 2009 Share Posted 9 June, 2009 The bloke made a valid remark. I expect most people feel the same way. This is by no means a done deal yet. The biggest test is going to be paying over an enormous amount of money and that has still to happen. There has to be doubts over any deal connected with the club until they are closed out. Indeed, I wish I could convince myself that Mr BigbuX actually exists and that the Pinnacle consortium (even though Mr Lynam says otherwise) isn't a hotch potch of local "millionaires" scrabbling about for loose change down the back of sofas.I was happy enough with it all, until L Crouch got in on the act, that made me have nascent doubts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cabrone Posted 9 June, 2009 Share Posted 9 June, 2009 Lets be realistic, a deal of this size isn't going to happen overnight and as several have already stated, you couldn't even buy a house this quickly. Hopefully they are using this time to take a good look at the managerial opportunities that are out there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pancake Posted 9 June, 2009 Share Posted 9 June, 2009 Indeed, I wish I could convince myself that Mr BigbuX actually exists and that the Pinnacle consortium (even though Mr Lynam says otherwise) isn't a hotch potch of local "millionaires" scrabbling about for loose change down the back of sofas.I was happy enough with it all, until L Crouch got in on the act, that made me have nascent doubts. TBF, the thought had crossed my mind but I just cant see it being the case now that Mr Lynam has come out and said that there is only 1 money man with several "hundreds of millions" in personal wealth. TL has become much higher profile on the Southampton due to this and I just dont see him risking his corporate image and personal image (and, lets face it, safety) if this wasnt the case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
70's Mike Posted 9 June, 2009 Share Posted 9 June, 2009 Well, Paul Scally bought Gillingham FC for ONE of your English Pounds. So... paid over the odds then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 9 June, 2009 Share Posted 9 June, 2009 TBF, the thought had crossed my mind but I just cant see it being the case now that Mr Lynam has come out and said that there is only 1 money man with several "hundreds of millions" in personal wealth. TL has become much higher profile on the Southampton due to this and I just dont see him risking his corporate image and personal image (and, lets face it, safety) if this wasnt the case. But as no-one seems to be naming Mr Money-Man and it appears that he wants to remain "anonymous" if that's even allowed we might not even know who is behind the deal anyway.If it goes udders up Mr Lynam just has to say Mr Mystery Man pulled out, no-one will ever be the wiser really. That's why I don't like all this locked in secrecy, too big a scope for maximus bullsh*tus, not that I suspect anyone of doing it of course.Crouch was a real downer for me and it made me doubt...that's all.I want a clean sweep, 1 owner, 1 management team competent in football, otherwise it's just Secure Retirement all over again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krissyboy31 Posted 9 June, 2009 Share Posted 9 June, 2009 But as no-one seems to be naming Mr Money-Man and it appears that he wants to remain "anonymous" if that's even allowed we might not even know who is behind the deal anyway.If it goes udders up Mr Lynam just has to say Mr Mystery Man pulled out, no-one will ever be the wiser really. That's why I don't like all this locked in secrecy, too big a scope for maximus bullsh*tus, not that I suspect anyone of doing it of course.Crouch was a real downer for me and it made me doubt...that's all.I want a clean sweep, 1 owner, 1 management team competent in football, otherwise it's just Secure Retirement all over again. According to the Echo, Crouch has rubbished the rumour of him being on the board and they have used the term "ultra-rich mystery client". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 9 June, 2009 Share Posted 9 June, 2009 According to the Echo, Crouch has rubbished the rumour of him being on the board and they have used the term "ultra-rich mystery client". But that's just the Echo, take no notice of what they say. Ultr-rich to the Echo is anyone who can afford to pay the 40p or whatever their rag costs these days. If you want to read the Echo become a paper-boy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krissyboy31 Posted 9 June, 2009 Share Posted 9 June, 2009 But that's just the Echo, take no notice of what they say. Ultr-rich to the Echo is anyone who can afford to pay the 40p or whatever their rag costs these days. If you want to read the Echo become a paper-boy. But why should we take any more notice of the made up sh!t on here, than what's in the Echo? The only fact we do have is that NOBODY knows! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toadhall Saint Posted 9 June, 2009 Share Posted 9 June, 2009 Just like buying a property etc. In the end 21 days might not be enough for the lawyers especially with at least three properties and a number of trading companies. I'll just be happy to see it happen in the end. It certainly makes it easier by not coming on here so much. And the myriad of individual contracts that need to be sifted through. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Lindford Posted 9 June, 2009 Share Posted 9 June, 2009 .................... and breathe. Don't forget there is a Friday coming up........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 9 June, 2009 Share Posted 9 June, 2009 And the myriad of individual contracts that need to be sifted through. I bought a house 4 years back, took 10 days, paid in cash and moved in. Timescales depend on what,how and when,you can't generalise every time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toadhall Saint Posted 9 June, 2009 Share Posted 9 June, 2009 I bought a house 4 years back, took 10 days, paid in cash and moved in. Timescales depend on what,how and when,you can't generalise every time. Good for you - one or two contracts was it? I didn't think I was generalising TBH. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 9 June, 2009 Share Posted 9 June, 2009 Good for you - one or two contracts was it? I didn't think I was generalising TBH. What I was meaning to say Toadhall was that when you're buying a company in administration you must be expecting to find a fair amount of crap swept under the carpet. If the affair was brilliantly run then you wouldn't be getting a 32 million 8 year old stadium ,a football team not long ago in the premier League,a training ground,some odds on sods of real estate and a bargain basement bank overdraft of only 4 million £ for a measly 15 million (or whatever) The affair has obviously been badly run and you're going to find something nasty in the woodshed ,you don't need to look at 200 or so individual contracts of employment to know that. It's time wasting, why ? who knows I certainly don't.If it was now May 9th and not June 9th it wouldn't matter so much but the pre-season is almost upon us and if the Pinnacle group are serious about getting it together and doing exciting things then I think it wouldnt do them any harm to turn up the turbo a bit and get the f*ck on with it.Anything is possible if you have the means at your disposal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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