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So what cross roads was it people claiming we were at then?

We can't compete with the top 5-6 clubs financially it's as simple as that. For a club of our size that policy had to be right. People can go on all they want about the TV deal meaning we've got more money to compete now but guess what, so does everyone else as well. Our aim should be to be an established top 10 club who has a crack at the cups every season who every now and then with a fair wind and a bad year for one of the elite can have a crack at the top 6. If people think that's boring and lacks ambition then they're deluded. We aren't a mega club just a 10,000 expansion away from becoming the man United of the south. We're a middle sized premier league club. If we finish 8th or above this season it'll be a fantastic achievement again. Not many clubs of our size and stature have achieved 3 consecutive top 8 finishes especially whilst losing 7 of our top players along the way. So I don't see us as at a crossroads at all we aren't going to push on into the top 4, we aren't going to spend £40m and£200k a week on single players. What we might get though is the odd season where we do challenge at the top which might convince our better players to stay a bit longer. But the reality is our best players will move on for big money but that's also the reality for all but about 5 clubs in the world.

Yet still you continue to whinge that players from the youth team aren't being picked in the first team which is top half of the premier league. It's almost as if they aren't good enough for it is it.

To be fair he has a point. As a scout you don't have to be much of a genius to pick up a full international costing north of £6-7m but playing in a different country as a recommendation. The real quality comes from finding the likes of seamus Coleman for £60,000. People rave about or scouting set up but look at celtics, brought in van Dijk, Wanyama and Forster for less than £6m combined and sold them for over £30m. Now of course if we were to have sold Clyne last summer and replaced him with the next Seamus Coleman then fans would be in meltdown at the lack of ambition. Fans are as guilty as clubs, big fees + fancy names mean we're signing superstars, Lower league players = lack of ambition. I don't know why more don't bring in a few top performers from league one as squad players. We've all seen how it's possible to make that transition. I'm sure there is a better right back in league one than CuCo Martina that can play as a last resort and who knows one or two of them might surprise us all.

Saints centenary game v champions Everton. It was my first game and like so others in the 30 years since would end in defeat. I remember the match reasonably well. We lost 2-3 after Glen Cockerill gave us an early lead, Gary Linekar levelling to send the teams in level before Everton taking control. A goal from Steve Moran, who was my hero at the time, right in front of me at in Milton Road end got us back into the game but we couldn't find an equaliser. It was a special day, 100 young fans chosen to be mascots from 10 schools, sadly I wasn't one of them. I also remember reading in the match day programme a fictional story about the next 100 years when Saints would be playing in a European Super league in a 50,000 all seater stadium. As deluded back then as they are now it seems. Anyone have an pictures from the day? Fitz, I'm looking at you

It doesn't matter what he thinks mate, just go around calling everyone a complete penis that doesn't agree with you. That's how it works. The funny thing is all three if the ones dishing out the abuse then defending their behaviour have moaned about others doing the same to them or how this forum is going downhill. The first person to dish out abuse on this thread actually posted on another one that Yoshida is a liability and always makes mistakes when he plays right back, so he might well have agreed with your point. Clearly it doesn't matter what people say on here, it's who says it and you're free to abuse people who comment if you don't like them, however valid their point might be. As for knee jerk reactions, how many goals does Yoshida need to cost us before saying he should never play right back again isn't a knee jerk reaction?

The strange thing is that on the match thread adrainsfc, a renowned delicate flower, says how Yoshida is a poor right back and costs us goals there. Yet when someone suggests we need to strengthen that position he gets all abusive and the person who says it is "a penis". How very odd.

Yoshida is an average centre back but not a right back and costs us a good goal scoring chance every time he plays there. I can't see too much wrong with what Brett had posted here. If Koeman doesn't trust Cedric against the top teams then we do need one. Cedric must be injured as once again the player he labeled the better defensive right back has cost us a goal.

It's the latest little hobby horse for certain types of people isn't it. Our new players are in the main doing well so the "you can't expect to sell your best players every year..." Is redundant until next summer. We're top half of the table and on a decent run until last week, quarter final of the cup. Since jack cork found his level on Swansead bench They can't even play the "we should have kept jack cork" card since he stopped being another one of those amazing players that had their best games when they didnt play. I know, let's moan about Koeman not playing youth. It's an outrage that Harrison Reed and Jake Hesketh are not being picked over experienced international players. This would never have happened under Pochetino

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Welcome plumber and by your first post you're going to fit in perfectly round here. Post at your peril though, stupid/foolish person boards are unforgiving places.

Hows the stadium expansion coming along MLG? Any signs of it starting yet? DO you still think it's a brilliant strategy not to reveal our injuries ahead of games? You must be aghast that Koeman now openly states how long players will be out for.

Cheers chaps. Having looked into it a bit more I agree with you here mate. The selling points seem to be its different everytime you go and the club mentality of it. Well I don't need the later as my training partner is competitive so we push each other. As for being different, seems to me if you go and so compound lifts, a bit of body weight plus 15 mins of HIIT varying between running,rowing, cycling and circuits then its pretty much what cross fit is anyway.

Yep buy them a tennis ball and tell them to go and practise for hours on a piece of wasteland, empty warehouse anywhere where the ball will be constantly bouncing off things or uneven ground so will be arriving at them at unusual angles and heights. If they can control and strike a tennis ball in that environment then once they come to play on a flat pitch with a normal sized ball they'll be head and shoulder above the others. By all means learn tricks and tactics with coaches on manicured pitches wearing branded kits but for the basics there is no better way.

When will we start seeing the bigger clubs paying the media to print stories to destabilise Leicester? We are also due a couple of terrible refereeing performances against them given the UK wide campaign not to allow anyone outside the top 6 to finish in the top 6.

This is 100% true. I shared some info via PM with a couple of posters about this at the time. It was towards the end of the transfer window the year we came up to the premier league. Phillips was desperate to join us, he'd told his family and friends he was coming and everything was agreed. The Blackpool chairman was an absolute **** about it though and refused to sell to us. We'd made them a decent offer and offered him a lot more than the £7k a week he was on at Blackpool at the time but it all fell through thanks to their chairman.

We might as well drag it out until the Liverpool game as they'll be due their own one by then again anyway.

Anyone on here a member of a club or done it? A lad I know took it up and claims to be in the shape of his life. In his late 30s and fitter, stronger and more flexible than he was in his teens. I've seen a lot of hype around crossfit and whilst I agree with some of the principles of it's training is it hurt hype or is it genuinely as good as it says on the tin?

bland, generic wannabe middle class "comedy" to appeal to thick masses who like whatever they are told to like by the media. I remember sitting through one of his shows on telly as my brother and sister in law find him hilarious, they insisted when we were over there one night I watch it to see just how side splittingly hilarious he was. I don't think I laughed once, it was just stupid, they were in fits of laughter at some story about how a jar of spice at the back of the cupboard would be jealous of a spice at the front of the cupboard, it was just bizarre and about as funny as a Chinese burn. His act seemed to be based around shaking his head and talking in a stupid voice. You can guarantee that people who are his fans also like things like Ant and Dec, Friends, X-Factor and so on.

We've done remarkably well with the policy of spending £8-£12m and hoping haven't we Brett. Pelle, Tadic, Van Dijk, Bertrand, Mane, Claise, it's almost like there is a bit more to it than that.

Turkey boy When you've spent £13m on something now worth £100m but still get asked to resign from your job to have to wonder why. Maybe it's the spending £60m on wages and fees for marque signings who didn't work out. Or the getting a training ground worth £20m for the bargain price of £40m. Perhaps it was despite two promotions overseeing a decline in commercial income to the point where despite playing in the most watched league in the world you have to give away the shirt sponsorship deal to largest IT company in chillworth. Or maybe it was racking up a legal bill that made BP think they got a squeeze for flooding Mexico with oil. How about the high interest off shore loans which were never signed off by your boss? Because you see pal, when you add all that up your fag packet "but but but but the club is worth loads more now" don't quite stack up does it noddles (PMSL)

It is indeed a FACT Lou. Nick nacks spending and ego were out of control. He was an absolute control freak wanting every decision made by him. The shambles of a kit we had, Nick nacks Decisions, transfers, all his decision, the money wasted on the training ground, all driven by his ego wanting private lifts, ripping down cladding because it wasn't exactly how he imagined it would look. He was also utterly paranoid, appointing spies inside SMS to grass up on if anyone spoke badly of him, promising them promtion and pay rises if they grassed on colleagues, when they did the victim was fired and the grass never received their promised reward. Yo couldn't make it up. Whilst Markus estate was in probate Nick nack was spend spend spending. Taking out loans, over spending left right and centre, when Kat officially came into power Cortese had racked up the debts and was only giving Kat a top line figure as to the clubs finances. When she demanded, as is her right, greater governance on where her money was going the dwarf threw yet another paddy (summer 2013) saying he'd quit. The writing was on the wall from then on and was only a matter of time before the mess he was getting us in was uncovered and he was allowed to get away with it. Given the option to resign or quit. Of course it would be wrong to say all he did was bad, for a while he did a great job but the cracks appeared once we got promotion to the or ever league, that was when his ego got out of control thinking he was infallible. Long before he went I warned of all this and told what I knew and was ridiculed and abused for it. It seems now baring a few fanatics even Corteses biggest fans realise he had taken us as far as he could and needed replacing.

Utter nonsense. If any club is the definition of a sleeping giant its Leeds. I live 15 miles from Leeds and their support is huge. It's a big one club city where most people support Leeds, it's the third biggest city in the country I believe, as well as drawing large support from towns all over Yorkshire and beyond. Not mention the fact that they have fans all over the country, not on the scale of Man United or Liverpool perhaps but they are certainly the Chelsea or spurs of the north in terms of support. I don't like Leeds, particularly living in the area being surrounded by their fans day in day out but in terms of support they are one of the biggest clubs in the country. They've been grossly mismanaged for years, if they had an owner prepared to spend money to get them back up then they could easily be a force again.

Really? You have the physique of a man that would only excel in a hot dog eating sprint.