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    What does NATO do if there's a military coup in a member state ?

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    Turkish Military Says It Has Taken Over The Country

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Duckhunter View Post
    What does NATO do if there's a military coup in a member state ?
    Send for Boris?

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    What is the motivation here?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Colinjb View Post
    What is the motivation here?
    if it does not please Russia, could be very messy

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    Quote Originally Posted by Batman View Post
    if it does not please Russia, could be very messy
    Russian backed then?

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    Quote Originally Posted by sandwichsaint View Post
    Send for Boris?
    Well he did write a poem about the President of turkey, calling him an anchor . Perhaps the military chiefs agreed

    Other countries use tanks and guns to get rid of leaders , we just need a bloke from Kent who likes real ale .

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    Quote Originally Posted by sandwichsaint View Post
    Send for Boris?
    The model of diplomacy required for the Foreign Office


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    This is the Franz Ferdinand moment that kicks off World War Three.

    Take me out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CB Fry View Post
    This is the Franz Ferdinand moment that kicks off World War Three.

    Take me out.
    What an absolute mess this is.

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    This is Europe though, down through the centuries. Twas ever thus.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Patrick Bateman View Post
    What an absolute mess this is.
    I wonder when a variant of Islam will play its part in this?

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    Turkey do have form for this kind of thing.

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    The current secular regime is only in power wit the tacit agreement of the Military; this may just be a reminder from a few disgruntled right wing generals that the Government is moving away from 1923 and more toward Islam.

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    Does this mean Marmaris holidays going to be even cheaper?

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    Quote Originally Posted by whelk View Post
    Does this mean Marmaris holidays going to be even cheaper?
    For most people yes, unfortunately you are going to have to pay in dodgy sterling so suck it up, Morecambe and Margate are likely to be cheaper (and safer) than Marmaris for the foreseeable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sandwichsaint View Post
    For most people yes, unfortunately you are going to have to pay in dodgy sterling so suck it up, Morecambe and Margate are likely to be cheaper (and safer) than Marmaris for the foreseeable.
    Isn't Margate pretty much ISIS territory? Actual come to think of it that was MAidstone. Can relax and eat me cockles

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    This isn't going their EU case

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    Quote Originally Posted by whelk View Post
    Isn't Margate pretty much ISIS territory? Actual come to think of it that was MAidstone. Can relax and eat me cockles
    No, Margate is UKIP territory. Too many acronyms to keep track of.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sandwichsaint View Post
    For most people yes, unfortunately you are going to have to pay in dodgy sterling so suck it up, Morecambe and Margate are likely to be cheaper (and safer) than Marmaris for the foreseeable.
    And more crowded.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RonManager View Post
    This is Europe though, down through the centuries. Twas ever thus.
    We need to bring Europe together somehow. Some kind of union.

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    Quote Originally Posted by whelk View Post
    The model of diplomacy required for the Foreign Office

    Foreign Office diplomacy in action.

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    Quote Originally Posted by buctootim View Post
    We need to bring Europe together somehow. Some kind of union.
    With Turkey in?

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    be in the EU within 5 years. good show

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Duckhunter View Post
    With Turkey in?
    Sure. And Iran

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    Quote Originally Posted by buctootim View Post
    We need to bring Europe together somehow. Some kind of union.
    Lets start with a trade union, see how we go from there. Couldn't possibly be warped into anything else.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Batman View Post
    I wonder when a variant of Islam will play its part in this?
    Sounds like the secular military are trying to overthrow the Islamist government. Bet that's got you all confused...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Colinjb View Post
    Lets start with a trade union, see how we go from there. Couldn't possibly be warped into anything else.
    You might need some sort of court. Where you can carry out the rules that we all agree on.

    Or summat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shirleysfc View Post
    Sounds like the secular military are trying to overthrow the Islamist government. Bet that's got you all confused...
    I'm not sure he gets how an Islamic people can have a secular government - given they're all medieval savages an all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by buctootim View Post
    I'm not sure he gets how an Islamic people can have a secular government - given they're all medieval savages an all.
    nothing says sophistication more than a good old military coup to over throw a democratically elected government

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    So you wouldn't support a restoration of democracy here if an authoritarian government was in power? Not going to keep your oath.

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    Erdogan appearing on TV via FaceTime from wherever he's holed up. Calling for people to take to the streets.


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    All social media blocked in Turkey

    https://techcrunch.com/2016/07/15/fa...-coup-attempt/

    Crazy stuff. Curfews? As in 'stay in doors or we blow your head off?'

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    Quote Originally Posted by buctootim View Post
    So you wouldn't support a restoration of democracy .
    not really what is happening in Turkey though

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    Erdogan on a plane to London where he will be greeted by Boris...

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    Erdogan is an Islamist fascist. Freedoms - personal and press - have been eroded for years under this guy. Anyone who dissents against erdogan basically gets jailed: including the military.

    His policy with the Kurds, cosying up to ISIS, etc. were all driving Turkey away from the secular, inclusive ways of Ataturk.

    He was moving Turkey so far away from the Ataturk model that they could easily have become another Islamic state.

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    Appears that overnight the Coup has failed

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    Attempts to over throw democracy in Turkey have failed

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    Didnt take long

    Labour MP Chris Bryant saying that BREXIT has played a part in the attempted coup and destabilising frictions in Turkey.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Batman View Post
    Didnt take long

    Labour MP Chris Bryant saying that BREXIT has played a part in the attempted coup and destabilising frictions in Turkey.
    He should stick to taking selfies in his under pants

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    Quote Originally Posted by Batman View Post
    Didnt take long

    Labour MP Chris Bryant saying that BREXIT has played a part in the attempted coup and destabilising frictions in Turkey.
    What???

    Even I wouldn't blame Brexit for that.

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    Quote Erdogan : "Democracy is merely a train that we ride until we reach our goal, the mosques are our barracks, the domes our helmets, the minarets our bayonets and the faithful our soldiers." This guy is a problem but I reckon that as long he's in charge, Turkey won't be part of the EU. So I guess it's a good thing that he stays on...

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    Erdogan now 'purging' the country of anyone holding a differing ideology it would seem. Teachers, university deans, preachers, military leaders. This'll end well.

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    NATO members - how does that work. Can you get booted out? And yes I know strategically crucial so unlikely but islamisation of education system seems very much at odds with what NATO stands for,

    Good old days before social media the coup could have well been successful.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lighthouse View Post
    Erdogan now 'purging' the country of anyone holding a differing ideology it would seem. Teachers, university deans, preachers, military leaders. This'll end well.
    Terrible for Turkey: A dictatorship and police state, foreign investment will dry up (although I expect some very good arms deals may be negotiated).

    Potentially Good for the Rest of Europe: Zero chance of Turkey joining the EU now, and a buffer zone between continental Europe and the Middle East.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fatboy40 View Post
    Terrible for Turkey: A dictatorship and police state, foreign investment will dry up (although I expect some very good arms deals may be negotiated).

    Potentially Good for the Rest of Europe: Zero chance of Turkey joining the EU now, and a buffer zone between continental Europe and the Middle East.

    Potentially bad for the EU...a new exode of Turks fleeing the oppression there. Still at least they might be westernised Turks and not those drawn to more islamism.

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