Thedelldays Posted 16 June, 2009 Share Posted 16 June, 2009 what is all the fuss..? seriously, if he never played a handful of games for us no one would be that bothered would they..!! im sick of going for the cheap option etc and he would be that.. IF we had someone taking over with money (for this league and CCC standards) then we should be looking at better managers than tisdale IMO ince coppell boothroyd keegan (dare I say it) of course, if the new people dont have a penny really to spend on the team then tisdale would be perfect IMO but........... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 16 June, 2009 Share Posted 16 June, 2009 (edited) Due to popular demand on another thread (well 2 others!) I feel Paul Tisdale is just the sort of bloke to give us a fresh start; articulate, listen to post match in http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/e/exeter_city/7976044.stm product of our youth system only 36. learnt management trade in non-league with Bath - 4 promotions in 5 seasons his side plays attractive football losing in play off final in first season at Exeter won plays off in 2nd season - despite having to sell many players promoted in his 3rd season edit to bring up to date definately on the way up, no failure/sacking baggage like most managers on of sky sports top ten football league managers (list before much of this good season) http://www.skysports.com/interactive/top_tens_story/0,25722,15881_4214437,00.html not big name to attact big players but thats not where we are. A young, fresh, modern manager for us to unite behind? Edited 16 June, 2009 by NickG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 16 June, 2009 Author Share Posted 16 June, 2009 great, so with (potentially) money men (in relative terms) coming to SFC the best we want is someone who learnt their trade with bath.. I would rather we aimed higher myself ...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 16 June, 2009 Share Posted 16 June, 2009 someone in demand and who has never had a bad season. not name for name sake Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted 16 June, 2009 Share Posted 16 June, 2009 We are aiming higher,but we need the right calibre of manager to fulfill that ambition. I would certainly opt for a manager with some experience and potential - and who is known to play a passing game - than a manager who has been 'recycled' a few times. NickG's post offers a good summary. No doubt Delldays you were/or would have been in a rage at Lawrie's appointment.Stan Anderson at Middlesboro' had far greater experience afterall.We obviously took the cheap option. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilchards Posted 16 June, 2009 Share Posted 16 June, 2009 (edited) These lower leagues are not about the big manager and the high paid players. It's more to do with a smart manager that brings the best out of players that want to achieve success. IMHO we've had way too many players that have been near the top and can't be arsed to achieve it again under the mickey mouse staff we keep getting in. Edited 16 June, 2009 by Pilchards Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teamsaint Posted 16 June, 2009 Share Posted 16 June, 2009 we should be very wary of Tisdale. He keeps getting teams promoted. Clueless idiot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 16 June, 2009 Author Share Posted 16 June, 2009 we should be very wary of Tisdale. He keeps getting teams promoted. Clueless idiot. from the conference.. storrock kept getting team promoted but look at his progress since stepping up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bungle Posted 16 June, 2009 Share Posted 16 June, 2009 Er, Tisdale was at Team Bath, not Bath City. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint_mears Posted 16 June, 2009 Share Posted 16 June, 2009 Hes staying at Exeter anyway so forget it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheff Saint Posted 16 June, 2009 Share Posted 16 June, 2009 from the conference.. storrock kept getting team promoted but look at his progress since stepping up But Tisdale wouldn't be stepping up. He'd be moving sideways. We are where we are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eurosaint Posted 16 June, 2009 Share Posted 16 June, 2009 Tiss and Tis ? Sounds good to me, don't understand why some are getting in a tizz about it ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SFC Forever Posted 16 June, 2009 Share Posted 16 June, 2009 great, so with (potentially) money men (in relative terms) coming to SFC the best we want is someone who learnt their trade with bath.. I would rather we aimed higher myself ...... I don't know what you have against Tisdale but he has succeeded everywhere he has coached/managed. He may have started his life at the bottom so to speak but you can't do more than win. Plus he does it with a little bit of style. Of the names you mentioned, can you guarantee they would do a better job? No, i don't think so. Though there is no sign yet that he will be the chosen one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SFC Forever Posted 16 June, 2009 Share Posted 16 June, 2009 Tiss and Tis ? Sounds good to me, don't understand why some are getting in a tizz about it ! Maybe TIS cos when TISS had TIS round for teas he wante dis coffee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InvictaSaint Posted 16 June, 2009 Share Posted 16 June, 2009 I do find it ironic that there are people on here moaning about Tisdale when he has guided his team from non-league to the very same division into which all our other custodians - many of whom many of us were happy to see at SMS [Redknapp, Burley] - have collectively allowed us to sink.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krissyboy31 Posted 16 June, 2009 Share Posted 16 June, 2009 Er, Tisdale was at Team Bath, not Bath City. A bit pedantic. DD never said which Bath team! I actually agree with DD on this occasion. Tisdale has potential to be a good manager at this level and above but this is not the time for potential. Too much experimenting, over the past god-knows how many years, has got us to where we are. We need somebody who has a proven track record, may be in this league, may be the CCC or even the Prem but somebody who knows what it's like to manage a club of our size and the pressures that brings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 16 June, 2009 Share Posted 16 June, 2009 A bit pedantic. DD never said which Bath team! I actually agree with DD on this occasion. Tisdale has potential to be a good manager at this level and above but this is not the time for potential. Too much experimenting, over the past god-knows how many years, has got us to where we are. We need somebody who has a proven track record, may be in this league, may be the CCC or even the Prem but somebody who knows what it's like to manage a club of our size and the pressures that brings. and has failed and been sacked and is out of work??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy_Porter Posted 16 June, 2009 Share Posted 16 June, 2009 What's Ince done that tisdale hasn't? Apart from failing in the prem ofc. You're in cloud cookoo land if you think Keegan or Coppell would be interested. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thorpie the sinner Posted 16 June, 2009 Share Posted 16 June, 2009 What's Ince done that tisdale hasn't? Apart from failing in the prem ofc. You're in cloud cookoo land if you think Keegan or Coppell would be interested. it's beautiful this morning in cloud cuckoo land!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forever a red and white Posted 16 June, 2009 Share Posted 16 June, 2009 Tisdale has learnt his trade which many high profile unsuccessful managers seem to forget. Ince was successful but couldn't handle the jump. Tisdale has got Exeter up to League 1, yes he spent a few seasons in the Conference but now he has built a team it is progressing very well. We are going to have to be patient if we want similar success, is a high profile highly coverted manager going to stick with us for a long time. Ask yourself the question why are so many of these 'high quality' managers out of work in the first place Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krissyboy31 Posted 16 June, 2009 Share Posted 16 June, 2009 and has failed and been sacked and is out of work??? One thing as sure as death is that a football manager is going to fail (somewhere) and is going to be sacked (by someone). I am not saying that I don't rate Tisdale but £1 to a penny if he was named our manager, at some point in the future he will get the sack! Not saying it would be this season, next or the season after. However, history tells us that he will at some point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRichmond Posted 16 June, 2009 Share Posted 16 June, 2009 what is all the fuss..? seriously, if he never played a handful of games for us no one would be that bothered would they..!! QUOTE] With respect, I don't think him playing for us is the issue..... ..... As a Manager, he is already showing the signs that he could be good, and having Played for Saints MAY add to his Motivation .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheff Saint Posted 16 June, 2009 Share Posted 16 June, 2009 what is all the fuss..? seriously, if he never played a handful of games for us no one would be that bothered would they..!! QUOTE] With respect, I don't think him playing for us is the issue..... ..... As a Manager, he is already showing the signs that he could be good, and having Played for Saints MAY add to his Motivation .... It might. And it wasn't just a handful of games in a Mark Hughes type of way, it was a handful of games after coming right through the ranks. Am i right in saying we were his only professional club as well? It isn't a massive thing, but all things together, it just feels like the right club at the right time to me...I hope i'm right! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 16 June, 2009 Share Posted 16 June, 2009 its not so much that he played for saints but fact that it was at the same time as our soon to be chairman and they have spoken recently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRichmond Posted 16 June, 2009 Share Posted 16 June, 2009 great, so with (potentially) money men (in relative terms) coming to SFC the best we want is someone who learnt their trade with bath.. I would rather we aimed higher myself ...... IMHO ... Prem Teams are in a position to "Aim Higher", and attract the best CCC Teams .... not quite so high Div 1 Teams ??? .... not enough "clout " to attract TOP Managers, therefore you take your pick from all the Failed Managers, or take a chance on an Up and Coming one .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRobbie Posted 16 June, 2009 Share Posted 16 June, 2009 As long as we have a quality man - preferable recogniseable as someone who understands the League and is charasmatic enough to lead us out of this league and reflect MLTs ambition for this club I dont care who it is... but get the orange bloke out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmel Posted 16 June, 2009 Share Posted 16 June, 2009 what is all the fuss..? seriously, if he never played a handful of games for us no one would be that bothered would they..!! im sick of going for the cheap option etc and he would be that.. IF we had someone taking over with money (for this league and CCC standards) then we should be looking at better managers than tisdale IMO ince coppell boothroyd keegan (dare I say it) of course, if the new people dont have a penny really to spend on the team then tisdale would be perfect IMO but........... Tisdale is starting to make a name for himself and there will be plenty of clubs (Many in higher leagues than ourselves) that will be keeping an eye on him. That doesn't come with any guarantee that he can replicate that success in the higher leagues, but neither does it mean he can't. Any of the big or bigger names that people think we could attract, will all come with varying degrees of failure. Given where we are i think that attracting one of the most up and coming managers in all leagues, would be worth a shout. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulSaint Posted 16 June, 2009 Share Posted 16 June, 2009 We all want him becasue you dont! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Son of Bob Posted 16 June, 2009 Share Posted 16 June, 2009 I think Tisdale is definately our best option. In fact, I think we'll be bloody lucky if he even considers coming to us. There will be clubs in a much loftier position than ourselves who will have an eye on him. Why would anyone think Ince is any better? His achievements pretty much mirror Tisdales except Ince has already had a crack at a higher level, and in some peoples eyes, failed. Boothroyd wouldn't be a disappointment if he came, I could live with that but Keegan is laughable (in every possible way) and Coppell will have far bigger fish to fry I suspect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry the Badger Posted 16 June, 2009 Share Posted 16 June, 2009 The trouble with somebody like Ince is that because of his name and reputation he will be poached by a bigger club the second we start to do well. I would prefer us to find somebody with the same ability but without such a reputation, somebody we might actually keep hold of for a few years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectisSaint Posted 16 June, 2009 Share Posted 16 June, 2009 (edited) Tisdale is doing well and having a lot of success, there is no doubt about it. But the timing is not right for Saints. Tisdale is a manager who takes time to build a team, whilst i applaud him for that, what we need for next season is someone who will take the bull by the horns and go out there from day 1 with the intention of winning every game and gaining automatic promotion. Of course winning every game will not happen, but the idea is to have a winning mentality from the off, not to spend 2 months bedding in a new team. I admire Tisdale, and maybe his time will come at some point in the future, but not next season please. Edited 16 June, 2009 by VectisSaint Unfortunate typo in Tisdale's surname Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctoroncall Posted 16 June, 2009 Share Posted 16 June, 2009 what is all the fuss..? seriously, if he never played a handful of games for us no one would be that bothered would they..!! im sick of going for the cheap option etc and he would be that.. IF we had someone taking over with money (for this league and CCC standards) then we should be looking at better managers than tisdale IMO ince coppell boothroyd keegan (dare I say it) of course, if the new people dont have a penny really to spend on the team then tisdale would be perfect IMO but........... 1) He's successful 2) He's affordable 3) He'll know what sort of players to bring in to help compete for promotion from League One 4) He's a better risk than a couple of names you're stated (Coppell & Keegan) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 16 June, 2009 Share Posted 16 June, 2009 + popular choice for fans to get behind after all the division Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shroppie Posted 16 June, 2009 Share Posted 16 June, 2009 + popular choice for fans to get behind after all the division Agreed. I was a Pearson fan and see Tisdale as being from the same mould. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crab Lungs Posted 16 June, 2009 Share Posted 16 June, 2009 Peoples fixation with Ince has to end... the bloke can't even string a sentence together... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chivvy1664 Posted 16 June, 2009 Share Posted 16 June, 2009 coppell been there done it. spots bargains. Kinda of a mick mccarhty manager. Get you out of championship but wont keep you in the premier league. Listen to me we are in league 0ne minus ten and im on about getting promoted to the prem!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectisSaint Posted 16 June, 2009 Share Posted 16 June, 2009 1) He's successful 2) He's affordable 3) He'll know what sort of players to bring in to help compete for promotion from League One 4) He's a better risk than a couple of names you're stated (Coppell & Keegan) 1) True, given slow build ups he is very successful 2) True, so am I, do we need cheap? 3) How? he has never managed at this level, not thats necessarily a problem 4) You jest methinks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 16 June, 2009 Share Posted 16 June, 2009 he hadn't managed at the division below either but only lasted there one season! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy_Porter Posted 16 June, 2009 Share Posted 16 June, 2009 great, so with (potentially) money men (in relative terms) coming to SFC the best we want is someone who learnt their trade with bath.. I would rather we aimed higher myself ...... Why does it matter where someone learnt their trade? I'd much rather we took on a manager who had to start at the bottom rather than someone who was given a big job straight away based on their reputation like Shearer or Keane. I really don't understand why anyone would want Ince, he has done very little in football management even less than Tisdale. As a manager Ince is best known for totally ****ing up in the premiership and gobbing off about not getting a more high profile job because he's black. Boothroyd, Coppell and Keegan would all be great as our manager but I can't see them happening. Maybe Boothroyd since he's still young but I think he will be looking for a CCC club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 16 June, 2009 Share Posted 16 June, 2009 think DD is measuring management ability with their level of fame Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gammon cheeks Posted 16 June, 2009 Share Posted 16 June, 2009 A young, fresh, modern manager for us to unite behind? How about stuart gray or steve wigley? They could be a young fresh manager for us to get behind!! For fooks sake we are -10 points at the start of the season we need a experienced manager for us to start with all guns blazing . We cant afford to take another gamble , or we could be in real trouble. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 16 June, 2009 Share Posted 16 June, 2009 totally different. They were young and fresh - but not managers. Tisdale is a successful manager. Who do you want? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4737_carlin Posted 16 June, 2009 Share Posted 16 June, 2009 WHo the feck is tisdale ??? I bet steve perryman as DOF does all the work at the grecians. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Duckhunter Posted 16 June, 2009 Share Posted 16 June, 2009 I'm hoping that with Matt Le Tiss' involvement he can use his contacts in the game, to get advice on our next Manager. I believe that Don Revie recommended Lawrie to the Saints board and over the years SAF has given good solid advice to Chaiman about up and coming Managers ( I think I'm right in saying he recommended Moyes to Preston).Those within the game know a lot more about whose suitable than us supporters, and hopefully Matt can tap into people within the game and make an informed choice.People like WGS might not want to come and manage us, but I'm sure if asked he would give his opinion on who could do a job for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
70's Mike Posted 16 June, 2009 Share Posted 16 June, 2009 totally different. They were young and fresh - but not managers. Tisdale is a successful manager. Who do you want? Alan Knill from Bury Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crouchi Posted 16 June, 2009 Share Posted 16 June, 2009 I would immediately suspect anyone coming in as the fan's choice as showing the new management team has no confidence Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Fen Posted 16 June, 2009 Share Posted 16 June, 2009 what is all the fuss..? seriously, if he never played a handful of games for us no one would be that bothered would they..!! im sick of going for the cheap option etc and he would be that.. IF we had someone taking over with money (for this league and CCC standards) then we should be looking at better managers than tisdale IMO ince coppell boothroyd keegan (dare I say it) of course, if the new people dont have a penny really to spend on the team then tisdale would be perfect IMO but........... Keegan and Coppell unrealistic. Boothroyd good shout along with Ince but whats wrong with Tisdale??? Nothing!! Tisdale has done a good job at Team Bath and Exeter. Every manager has to start somewhere and be given a chance. He certainly deserves his at a bigger club. Got one at least one more promotion than Ince! Ince obviously has that big reputation as a player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 16 June, 2009 Author Share Posted 16 June, 2009 team bath....hmmm reminds me of jans team, who was it again... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 16 June, 2009 Share Posted 16 June, 2009 ok ignire team bath. Exeter - done ok? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 16 June, 2009 Author Share Posted 16 June, 2009 ok ignire team bath. Exeter - done ok? wow crack open the bubbly:smt046 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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