modern matron Posted 3 August, 2009 Share Posted 3 August, 2009 I am still waIting for us to really make our mark! We have signed virtually no new players and spent no money while allowing players to leave, Why? I want us to spend significant money to sign top div 1 players such as Ricky Lambert from Bristol Rovers. If we don't sign anyone then frankly I am worried whether AP knows enough about buying lower league player on frees or low fees. I hope he does. Judging on reports we may have no forwards with any experience, plus Lancashire and Perry as centre backs. HELP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! COYR! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 3 August, 2009 Share Posted 3 August, 2009 thread with panic and no faith in AP - no surely not another one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Verbal Posted 3 August, 2009 Share Posted 3 August, 2009 thread with panic and no faith in AP - no surely not another one But thankfully this thread started past Original BS's bedtime, so he won't be able to work himself up into a fainting fit until about 10 tomorrow morning - or whatever time they roll out of bed in Glasgow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danish Saint Posted 3 August, 2009 Share Posted 3 August, 2009 Make our mark??!! We were saved from the total abyss, less than two months ago! I can't understand why some people wants to see us dive head first into the transfer market, just because we have money to spend. It's like listening to spoiled kids in a candy store. Signings will be made, has been made in signing KD, Fish on longer contracts and getting Harding in on a free.. more will be made! Why another thread on this subject?? Patience is a virtue, and so far things are falling nicely into place with the owner making all the right appointments and decisions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 3 August, 2009 Share Posted 3 August, 2009 (edited) The owner has spent £16m to buy the club. He has cleared the debt. He has afforded a manager we couldn't have done last year. He has allowed us to turn down bids for younger players that we couldn't before. He offered KD a contract on his first day. He is affording Saga and Rasiak - we couldn't last season. He offered John a competitive contract -we couldn't last year. He has said that he realises year on year investment is needed to return the club. Pardew has said new signings likely this week. Edited 3 August, 2009 by NickG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedAndWhite91 Posted 3 August, 2009 Share Posted 3 August, 2009 Alan Pardew got Reading promoted from this level. I'm sure he knows, in all his experience, how to buy players. How many more threads on this same thing will there be? Be patient, these things take time. I know it may only be less than a week to the start of the season, but Pardew has stated he hopes to bring in 4-5 new faces by the end of the transfer window, with 2-3 before the Millwall game. He knows what he is doing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Verbal Posted 3 August, 2009 Share Posted 3 August, 2009 The owner has spent £16m to buy the club. He has cleared the debt. He has afforded a manager we couldn;t have done last year. He has allowed us to turn down bits for younger players that we couldn't before. He offered KD a contract on his first day. He is affording Saga and Rasiak - we couldn't last season. He offered John a competitive contract -we couldn't last year. He has said that he realises year on year investment is needed to return the club. Pardew has said new signings likely this week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry the Badger Posted 3 August, 2009 Share Posted 3 August, 2009 I can only hope this is a wind up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint in Paradise Posted 3 August, 2009 Share Posted 3 August, 2009 Poeple who start these doom and gloom threads about not signing players should IMHO been suspended for a week. It is perfectly obvious that Mr Liebherr and his staff do business in a totally different way to what we have been used to so leave them alone. Mr Liebherr is successful, the old directors were not so whose way is best ? GIVE IT A REST Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torrent Of Abuse Posted 4 August, 2009 Share Posted 4 August, 2009 I imagine it's fallen down the back of the sofa. If you pull back the cushions you'll find it alongside the patience of the fans, a video of the best goals of the 2008-9 season and Agustin Delgado's medical records. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Octopus Posted 4 August, 2009 Share Posted 4 August, 2009 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisobee Posted 4 August, 2009 Share Posted 4 August, 2009 Lol, is that for those who start these threads or us poor souls who have to endure them ? Actually never mind I'm close to being brain dead anyway never mind unconscious Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Smith Posted 4 August, 2009 Share Posted 4 August, 2009 I can't understand why these plants are still trying to run some sort of spoiling campaign? Surely, not even the most distant of Saints supporter failed to notice this summers' events? Admin, -10 points, Lowe and Wilde going, Pinnacle, MLT and finally 'The Swiss'! Ring any bells? Seriously, you think thread 784 on the same subject has not gone unnoticed? Check out your responses, they're exactly the same as the previous 783. Have you got the message yet? What do you have to gain from this? How much are you being paid? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thorpie the sinner Posted 4 August, 2009 Share Posted 4 August, 2009 I really can't help it, but i seem to be one of the silent majority who is feeling very positive about the season ahead!! Cortese and Liebherr are successful business men who know how to achieve by doing things the right way!! total faith! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
modern matron Posted 4 August, 2009 Author Share Posted 4 August, 2009 I can't understand why these plants are still trying to run some sort of spoiling campaign? Surely, not even the most distant of Saints supporter failed to notice this summers' events? Admin, -10 points, Lowe and Wilde going, Pinnacle, MLT and finally 'The Swiss'! Ring any bells? Seriously, you think thread 784 on the same subject has not gone unnoticed? Check out your responses, they're exactly the same as the previous 783. Have you got the message yet? What do you have to gain from this? How much are you being paid? Matron says calm down dear you'll make yourself ill! Seriously this is a forum and everyone has different opinions. What's wrong with that? I would add that perhaps there have been a number of threads of this type because a significant number of posters are concerned. Signing players before a new season starts is pretty important particularly when you are starting on -10. Finally I am optimistic about the medium/long term but am uncertain about the short term - I hope I have got it all wrong. COYR! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 4 August, 2009 Share Posted 4 August, 2009 if the long and medium term are great, Millwall doesn't really matter - calm down and enjoy the ride! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derry Posted 4 August, 2009 Share Posted 4 August, 2009 The owner has spent £16m to buy the club. He has cleared the debt. He has afforded a manager we couldn't have done last year. He has allowed us to turn down bids for younger players that we couldn't before. He offered KD a contract on his first day. He is affording Saga and Rasiak - we couldn't last season. He offered John a competitive contract -we couldn't last year. He has said that he realises year on year investment is needed to return the club. Pardew has said new signings likely this week. Wasn't it £12.5m? I really can't help it, but i seem to be one of the silent majority who is feeling very positive about the season ahead!! Cortese and Liebherr are successful business men who know how to achieve by doing things the right way!! total faith! Spot on Si. I think there are more options opening up the nearer we get to the start of the season. Better club's squads have been finalised, players retained now know their chances of playing, managers are now prepared to release/loan fringe players, which may well be the reason for not signing a few free transfers, no better than the present staff and ending up worse off. To improve the squad the players have to have character and quality even if only for a potential season or two. I think we are doing it right for once and bringing in key players to improve the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wes Tender Posted 4 August, 2009 Share Posted 4 August, 2009 I would add that perhaps there have been a number of threads of this type because a significant number of posters are concerned. COYR! So why didn't you just add your OP to one of them? I'm definitely with Thorpie in the optimistic camp and Nick summed it all up admirably. Reasons to be happy, 1,2,3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david in sweden Posted 4 August, 2009 Share Posted 4 August, 2009 (edited) I am still waIting for us to really make our mark! We have signed virtually no new players and spent no money while allowing players to leave, Why? I want us to spend significant money to sign top div 1 players such as Ricky Lambert from Bristol Rovers. If we don't sign anyone then frankly I am worried whether AP knows enough about buying lower league player on frees or low fees. I hope he does. Judging on reports we may have no forwards with any experience, plus Lancashire and Perry as centre backs. HELP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! COYR! Buying the RIGHT players to fit the bill isn't easy! Yes there are a lot of players available on free's, Bosmans and even low fees but it isn't as easy as going to Waitrose and picking cans off the shelf. All managers have the bad experience of buying the " wrong " player, and once you got them - you stuck with them. I'm impressed by AP's manner and I'm confident that he'll get it right - most of the time. Trouble is that the experienced players we need are on the tail end of their careers and every season is precious and they want to get the best deal. For the managers, they are in danger of buying players ..who used to be good - but perhaps can't cut it anymore, or worse.. have an injury problemthat will never heal. The RIGHT players will be able to come into a L1 side and fir in straight away (many good examples in the past) and suddenly the whole team will gel together in a few games. I rate Perry ..but have never considered Ollie Lancashire to be first team material (not yet anyway) - and certainly not last season. (Note; JP / MW) OL had rave reviews in the Academy, but hasn't made the transition upwards. Loaning him out for 3-4 months to L2 / Conf. side may be preferable to a run in the reserves. I'm sure AP will shock us with some surprise signings in the next 2-3 weeks. Edited 4 August, 2009 by david in sweden Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bungle Posted 4 August, 2009 Share Posted 4 August, 2009 Panic! Everyone panic! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubai_phil Posted 4 August, 2009 Share Posted 4 August, 2009 Intent is what you do at Glastonbury. In Football you take care and time to make the correct decisions. Hell even Man Ure seem to have sold more than they bought so far Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gingeletiss Posted 4 August, 2009 Share Posted 4 August, 2009 Matron says calm down dear you'll make yourself ill! Seriously this is a forum and everyone has different opinions. What's wrong with that? I would add that perhaps there have been a number of threads of this type because a significant number of posters are concerned. Signing players before a new season starts is pretty important particularly when you are starting on -10. Finally I am optimistic about the medium/long term but am uncertain about the short term - I hope I have got it all wrong. COYR! Yes.....but why start another thread on it, why not join the doom and gloom merchants on an exsisting thread. FWIW....sh1te...It has been said a thousand times, give them a chance, they are building for the future. You don't start a house by building the roof first, you put in the foundations, that is what is happening. If you feel that is not enougth for you, then a new Designer team beckens, by the name of Man C. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fozzybear Posted 4 August, 2009 Share Posted 4 August, 2009 These fickle threads are becoming a friggin' bore. How about listening to what is being said by our new owners, we need to give it time and patience. There is no point spunking a wedge of cash for quick glory as all it will do is land us straight back in the same place we found ourselves in recently. Take a look at our friends down in pompey and see the mess they are in after spending big in the name of quick glory. People on here need to have a little faith, the prophesy will come true! Whatever happens, its got to be better than the position we were in earlier this summer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wes Tender Posted 4 August, 2009 Share Posted 4 August, 2009 Phil, Was interested to read the comment from this Skate who says he has lived most of his life in the Middle East and therefore thinks that Fahim will yet produce the goods because being an Arab businessman, he must be astute and a man on his word. http://www.portsmouth.vitalfootball.co.uk/sitepage.asp?a=164265 I suspect that you would call him deluded, but it is fascinating to see how many of the other Skates on there cling to his every word, rather like a drowning man clutching at straws. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 4 August, 2009 Share Posted 4 August, 2009 Well, we could spend £2m on a LB and CB.....or you can use a bit of nouse to get similar/better quality on Free's. (however you put it, Harding and Jhadi are top top class free transfers for us) Why are people wanting us to spend money for the sake of it? Do you want us to reverse straight back into debt again? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toadhall Saint Posted 4 August, 2009 Share Posted 4 August, 2009 Not another "I want" post FFS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubai_phil Posted 4 August, 2009 Share Posted 4 August, 2009 Phil, Was interested to read the comment from this Skate who says he has lived most of his life in the Middle East and therefore thinks that Fahim will yet produce the goods because being an Arab businessman, he must be astute and a man on his word. http://www.portsmouth.vitalfootball.co.uk/sitepage.asp?a=164265 I suspect that you would call him deluded, but it is fascinating to see how many of the other Skates on there cling to his every word, rather like a drowning man clutching at straws. bit off topic but hey Experience has shown that there are two critical issues when dealing with Gulf Nationals in any type of business. They only deal with people that they trust and they will never pay unless they need something else from you. (This makes it easy to do biz WHEN you know this BTW) Face is also incredibly important, ideas must always be theirs (bit like Rupert then) Within that context you then look at the way that these countries evolved since 1967 in Government, business etc, and it has been about famillies and gaining agencies for overseas vendors. The true wealth and true businessmen have become massive operations - Al Futtaims, Al Majids, Al Rostamani's, Al Habtoors here in Dubai. At the next level are those who have made their money recently. Some are exceptional businessmen and have worked tirelessly to build up empires making them into the multi-millionaire brackets, but there have also been a lot of "politician types" who built their money through their contacts and friends, most especially during the past 5/6 years from the date that property sales were allowed. Much of that money has disappeared as it was asset based, not cash The point is with Fahim is that he is not a "conglomerate" and that he is not well thought of for his time at Hydra and especially not liked for his "Donald Trump" wannabe attitude. That is not how they do things. Fahim's money is recent, not historical, the Government of Dubai would love to get into English Football but are fully aware that while they have a debt of 120% of GDP they have no CASH to pay suppliers let alone do any crazy Abu Dhabi type deals, so they won't bail him out. likewise any of the families (possibly with the exception of the Al Habtoors) would not want to fly in the face of the new "Sheikh Mo austerity programme" - ie taking great care now in the public persona of Dubai Inc. (eg sort out PFC or Sonapur Labour camp..) And then ask WHY Fahim was so quickly shoved out the way with the whole Man City thing.... He MAY (in a Pinnacle sort of way) get lucky and find a benefactor at the last minute, but he sure as heck doesn't have the 80-100 million the Skates need in his own bank account... LBO at best, even I know how to do those, but then I know what would happen in this climate if I did it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 4 August, 2009 Share Posted 4 August, 2009 how rich is he Phil? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadoldgit Posted 4 August, 2009 Share Posted 4 August, 2009 I think that some people thought that we would suddenly turn into a Chelsea or Man City overnight! This guy strikes me as a sensible, pragamatic businessman and if that means that we have steady, unspectacular progress over the next few years that is fine with me. As we have seen in the past, quick fixes do not work. It is going to take some time to get this club back where we would all like it to be and if people are going to get jumpy before the season has even started God help us by Christmas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubai_phil Posted 4 August, 2009 Share Posted 4 August, 2009 how rich is he Phil? My take on this is really analytical as much as factual. His PR says wealth of around US$500mil. Now a large amount of that will be linked to equity and property, NOT cash. The Abu Dhabi property market has held up much better than Dubai where values have fallen by >50% The issue really as I see it is that Hydra is Abu Dhabi, so his "backers" have already been "tapped up" to buy Man City. Not knowing so much about family politics down there, my guess is that he will find it difficult to find any local wealthy family groups who want to enter into a competition with His Excellency who has made Man City a major project. That leaves him looking at Dubai. They have two issues with regard to Football. 1) They have no spare money 2) They see no sense in doing a Man City in competition with the big boss. (OK that second one is something you guys will have to take on trust, they DID have a very interesting concept of how they would like to do something) The Skate deal simply doesn't fit - Dubai won't compete in a big balls game with the President, and the Skates don't offer the type of long term build infrastructure and generic growth that Dubai really does. In the UK, it would take about 2 seconds to find 20 million people who would be happy to take on Gordon Brown in any sort of venture. But down here, no that won't happen. So he has around 300mil pounds in assets, debts down the road are still what 30mil? they will need to spend 30mil on new players JUST to try and stay competitive, THEN he has to fund the stadium somehow... 20% of his net wealth and possible relegation? with MORE to come???? Hmm compared to us that would be Markus investing 540million into Saints! Think MJ would have been more believable than Sultan Bin Trump Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Secret Site Agent Posted 4 August, 2009 Share Posted 4 August, 2009 I am still waIting for us to really make our mark! We have signed virtually no new players and spent no money while allowing players to leave, Why? I want us to spend significant money to sign top div 1 players such as Ricky Lambert from Bristol Rovers. If we don't sign anyone then frankly I am worried whether AP knows enough about buying lower league player on frees or low fees. I hope he does. Judging on reports we may have no forwards with any experience, plus Lancashire and Perry as centre backs. HELP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! COYR! I got an idea!!!!!! Lets spend seven million on poor players, chuck them together into a team without them knowing each other and how they play. Change the formation weekly and make the oddest substitutions you have ever seen. After all, it worked last time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wes Tender Posted 4 August, 2009 Share Posted 4 August, 2009 Phil, Thanks for giving us that detailed perspective from the viewpoint of somebody who knows the region, the cultural background, the way that they do business, etc. It seems quite at odds with the confidence shown by the Skate who professes to have spent most of his life in the Middle East, but of the two perspectives, yours seemed to ring truer, especially in consideration of how things have progressed (or not) so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
egreog Posted 4 August, 2009 Share Posted 4 August, 2009 I am still waIting for us to really make our mark! We have signed virtually no new players and spent no money while allowing players to leave, Why? I want us to spend significant money to sign top div 1 players such as Ricky Lambert from Bristol Rovers. If we don't sign anyone then frankly I am worried whether AP knows enough about buying lower league player on frees or low fees. I hope he does. Judging on reports we may have no forwards with any experience, plus Lancashire and Perry as centre backs. HELP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! COYR! The level of panic within some people is staggering..........lets just wait and see what AP wants/needs to do............I'm sure he is well aware of the shortcomings of his squad without being told by people like us that frankly know very little other than wish to squander money on wasters! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eurosaint Posted 4 August, 2009 Share Posted 4 August, 2009 These fickle threads are becoming a friggin' bore. How about listening to what is being said by our new owners, we need to give it time and patience. There is no point spunking a wedge of cash for quick glory as all it will do is land us straight back in the same place we found ourselves in recently. Take a look at our friends down in pompey and see the mess they are in after spending big in the name of quick glory. People on here need to have a little faith, the prophesy will come true! Whatever happens, its got to be better than the position we were in earlier this summer. Straightforward and to the point ! Patience and faith ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northam Girls Posted 4 August, 2009 Share Posted 4 August, 2009 I am still waIting for us to really make our mark! We have signed virtually no new players and spent no money while allowing players to leave, Why? I want us to spend significant money to sign top div 1 players such as Ricky Lambert from Bristol Rovers. If we don't sign anyone then frankly I am worried whether AP knows enough about buying lower league player on frees or low fees. I hope he does. Judging on reports we may have no forwards with any experience, plus Lancashire and Perry as centre backs. HELP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! COYR! "For the love of money is the root of all evil: which while some coveted after, they have erred from the faith, and pierced themselves through with many sorrows." Timothy 6:10 Maybe if we had more faith we wouldn't be so sorrowfull. I for one am quite optimistic about the future, it is in professional hands for a change, and I have every confidence the outcome will be rosey aven if the path there is a little bumpy at times. Spending for the sake of it is a very childish concept too - adults know money can't buy happiness or top grade footballers that don't want to play in Div 1 on minus 10 points no matter how much you pay them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDG Posted 4 August, 2009 Share Posted 4 August, 2009 Phil, Thanks for giving us that detailed perspective from the viewpoint of somebody who knows the region, the cultural background, the way that they do business, etc. It seems quite at odds with the confidence shown by the Skate who professes to have spent most of his life in the Middle East, but of the two perspectives, yours seemed to ring truer, especially in consideration of how things have progressed (or not) so far. Just have to back up Phil - my experience of doing business in the Mid East is exactly as he described. I also have exactly the same opinion of the reasons why there is no Dubai money (most people think that Dubai is the big player - but all the 'real' money and power is in Abu Dhabi) Not sure how that will impact the Pompey bid - but, I met a number of people who could spin a good story and could find backing in the good times. However, the real business men are a limited few ...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dune Posted 4 August, 2009 Share Posted 4 August, 2009 Every thread on here is moaning. I wish we still had Rupert. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintsmike25 Posted 4 August, 2009 Share Posted 4 August, 2009 I am still waIting for us to really make our mark! We have signed virtually no new players and spent no money while allowing players to leave, Why? I want us to spend significant money to sign top div 1 players such as Ricky Lambert from Bristol Rovers. If we don't sign anyone then frankly I am worried whether AP knows enough about buying lower league player on frees or low fees. I hope he does. Judging on reports we may have no forwards with any experience, plus Lancashire and Perry as centre backs. HELP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! COYR! This season isn't about promotion it's about consolidating and building a team for the long term, what Pardew has inherited is a team full of promising youngsters and lacking in expierence, believe it or not he's seen enough promise to think he can do things with some of our players to improve them. We're in talks to plug the most needed holes in our team such as Centre back, with a very expierenced campaigner Jaidi who would be an absolutely fantastic signing at this level. He can't buy a striker until it's in desperate need as Rasiak and Saga are still under contract until they go Pardew isn't going to be signing anyone, what I think is going on is no-one has put a bid in for either (apart from perhaps Swansea) and he's saying "you two play well against Millwall and in our first few games you'll get someone in to buy you". Which we all know could prove to be a good policy, if we can get a motivated Rasiak & Saga for the first 3 games of the season we could have a really promising start, Rasiak is a championship striker and despite his lazyness he's got a knack of being in the right place in the box, and Saga in form can really knock the goals in when he's motivated. And frankly who says we can just buy Rickie Lambert? do you really think he's going to look at this team as it is and think it's in a better position than Bristol Rovers? not that many players are going to want to come to a club with a minus 10 points deficit, you'll find when the January transfer window opens and we're perhaps in lower-midtable they'll be a plethora of signings. Throwing money away on 'quick fixes' has been proved to be a bad idea in the past, we get players who aren't actually very good, and prove to come and go over the course of a season or two. Buying a player isn't also about ability it's about attitude, if they'll fit in with what Pardew wants, by all accounts Pardew wants to promote a sense of togetherness and team spirit and finding the right players for that is vital, at both Reading and West Ham the teams had that, and it can't be build overnight, it takes time a few defeats and lots of time on the training pitch. We should all be grateful we still have a club to support, not create more division within it, whilst our owner might be a billionnaire he's a sensible one who doesn't throw away needless amounts of cash, we're in a position where this club has no debt and can make a profit, we've got the manager, some coaching staff (finally!) a great assistant manager, a staduim which could get 32,000 fans (occasionall through the door) and great training facilities. The team will fall into place but Rome wasn't build in a day, and we all need to be realistic and patient. COYR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Marco Posted 4 August, 2009 Share Posted 4 August, 2009 Guess some people prefered having Jan/Wotte, Lowe and of course Wilde running the ship. Boy that was a load of fun wasen't it! Seriously though with some posters you just get the feeling they want the club to fail simply so they can say "i told you so, i was right, you were wrong, praise me etc etc" Which to me says they are not actual fans, just trolls really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRichmond Posted 4 August, 2009 Share Posted 4 August, 2009 Every thread on here is moaning. I wish we still had Rupert. So do I ...... under my New Brindle Block driveway ...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubai_phil Posted 4 August, 2009 Share Posted 4 August, 2009 Every thread on here is moaning. I wish we still had Rupert. I know it's Ashes time but like you say, do SO many people have to keep proving the bl**dy Aussies right........ Whingeing Poms - you really notice it when you move away and get away from the doom and gloom of the media and the news, but glad to see many on here are fighting back! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eurosaint Posted 4 August, 2009 Share Posted 4 August, 2009 Every thread on here is moaning. I wish we still had Rupert. That would stop the moaning, I'm sure ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
modern matron Posted 4 August, 2009 Author Share Posted 4 August, 2009 I know it's Ashes time but like you say, do SO many people have to keep proving the bl**dy Aussies right........ Whingeing Poms - you really notice it when you move away and get away from the doom and gloom of the media and the news, but glad to see many on here are fighting back! Hi Phil, glad to see that folks such as yourself have changed direction. Do I presume that whingeing is a thing of the past in your case then? Only kidding - surely though things will change when the ML/AP love in stops? I shall read with interest if we are still on -10 after saturday. COYR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Under Weststand Posted 4 August, 2009 Share Posted 4 August, 2009 So far ML & his team have been doing things the right way & I've been more than impressed by just about all they've done. I'm as desperate as the next supporter for us to start well, but we will just have to have a little patience in the building of our team for the future, not a team for next week. It will take a little longer than 2-weeks to address years of mismanagement. So take a deep breath & then blow out & relax. If by the end of August we are still waiting for signings the feel free to Panic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dune Posted 4 August, 2009 Share Posted 4 August, 2009 Hi Phil, glad to see that folks such as yourself have changed direction. Do I presume that whingeing is a thing of the past in your case then? Only kidding - surely though things will change when the ML/AP love in stops? I shall read with interest if we are still on -10 after saturday. COYR Love in? What the **** are you on? We're Saints fans and are supporting Saints. Is that such a strange concept? Aren't you a barrel of laughs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
modern matron Posted 4 August, 2009 Author Share Posted 4 August, 2009 Love in? What the **** are you on? We're Saints fans and are supporting Saints. Is that such a strange concept? Aren't you a barrel of laughs. You really took the bait this time Dune! Why is everyone so touchy about my little post? It's no big deal is it? Stay calm......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dogs Posted 4 August, 2009 Share Posted 4 August, 2009 There is something refreshingly reassuring about all your posts Nick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubai_phil Posted 4 August, 2009 Share Posted 4 August, 2009 Hi Phil, glad to see that folks such as yourself have changed direction. Do I presume that whingeing is a thing of the past in your case then? Only kidding - surely though things will change when the ML/AP love in stops? I shall read with interest if we are still on -10 after saturday. COYR You know, it's DAMNED hard to be negative all the time when you have to cope with 360 days of sunshine per year. You know the Good Lord intended that Man should live beneath Palm Trees and cook on Barbies. hell you guys should know - you're having a BBQ summer after all......... Anyway I am not in love with the new regime. In fact I'm on record as stating exactly what I expect from them. It will be slow, dull and sometimes tedious, BUT it will be meticulously planned and monitored and there will be a permanent set of systems, processes, checks and balances installed that ensure that we see continuous improvement. My bet is that 30% of the fans will be grumbling on here by the end of the year, but we WILL have improved and we WILL have money to spend the following year. Promotion this season would be a bonus, too much surgery too soon (was watching House) could lead to complications and is dangerous, what is more it ISN'T needed. There's this damned good business plan around that calls for stability FIRST then GROWTH rather than empty Pinnacle promises. My money is on that and it WILL be a success. Europe in 5 years is vaguely possible, but give them 7 years if Markus is still here - count on it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint_stevo Posted 4 August, 2009 Share Posted 4 August, 2009 I hate the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubai_phil Posted 4 August, 2009 Share Posted 4 August, 2009 I hate the world. No you don't, you just need a plastic Palm Tree and a sunlamp Or confirmation of the Skate deal falling apart :smt036 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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