John B Posted 19 August, 2009 Share Posted 19 August, 2009 Although obviously talented Adam does not seem to fit into any of the footballing conventional roles. Perhaps playing him unbalances the team and he should be sold A good or bad idea or just play him in the reserves Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St.Patrik Posted 19 August, 2009 Share Posted 19 August, 2009 I think the squad is getting to big soon so some players will probbably leave? And Lallana is one we could get money for so if the right offer is made I guess he´s off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Didcot Saint Posted 19 August, 2009 Share Posted 19 August, 2009 Sell him? We could'nt give him away. Honestly he is truly awful, runs around shows some nice touches, but cannot at anytime pass to any of his team mates, beat an opposing player or tackle. End of rant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Godfather Posted 19 August, 2009 Share Posted 19 August, 2009 Keep the player in my opinion. For us to sell him we would need a good offer, considering we're not in financial bother anymore. I don't see clubs making that sort of offer at the moment, the only recent interest has been from clubs trying to get him on the cheap when we were in financial bother. Long term as in this season we're better off keeping him, he's got learn that in this division you don't get that much time on the ball and has got to be more aware when he's on the ball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubai_phil Posted 19 August, 2009 Share Posted 19 August, 2009 Let's think of other players that didn't fit conventional roles... MLT, Theo.... Not saying he is in their class one iota, but at this level IF the midfield is set up right with the right players in the right places, then he can be accomodated. I'm not sure though if it will happen, but he shouldn't go yet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John B Posted 19 August, 2009 Author Share Posted 19 August, 2009 Not saying he is in their class one iota, but at this level IF the midfield is set up right with the right players in the right places, then he can be accomodated. Where at the moment? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 19 August, 2009 Share Posted 19 August, 2009 Take him out of the side and stick him in the reserves for a few months. He cannot play for us at the moment. - completley wrong player for us atm. Bring him back when we're confident and winning, with some momentium and i believe he can offer us something. but at this moment he's not right for us...and we're not right for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Channon's Sideburns Posted 19 August, 2009 Share Posted 19 August, 2009 ONCE we have suitable replacements on board, Lallana should be a bench warmer. Over praised (not his fault) but the truth is that he obviously started to believe the hype hence the 'Billy Big Balls' attitude when his 'mind wasn't right' pre-season. Ahh...that old chestnut, which gives people under contract the excuse to get their own way whilst in fact, within any other walk of life would be breaching the contract. The fact he's now Mr Loyalty after no-one wanted to buy him speaks volumes. Jog on - like Rasiak and Saga he needs to remember who pays his wages and put some serious work in. He ain't Le Tiss. We seem to be craving the next Le Tiss - unfortunately there was only one and we were lucky to have him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John B Posted 19 August, 2009 Author Share Posted 19 August, 2009 Take him out of the side and stick him in the reserves for a few months. He cannot play for us at the moment. - completley wrong player for us atm. Bring him back when we're confident and winning, with some momentium and i believe he can offer us something. but at this moment he's not right for us...and we're not right for him. Perhaps loan him somewhere? as I agree with you completely and feel his presence is totally unbalancing the team Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pancake Posted 19 August, 2009 Share Posted 19 August, 2009 Take him out of the side and stick him in the reserves for a few months. He cannot play for us at the moment. - completley wrong player for us atm. Bring him back when we're confident and winning, with some momentium and i believe he can offer us something. but at this moment he's not right for us...and we're not right for him. Correct. There are far more "worthy" players for the selling that Adam. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crowds Posted 19 August, 2009 Share Posted 19 August, 2009 i'm not sure on this i think he unbalances the team at present but whats he worth right now? he'd be on the bench for me atm or playing just behind lambert as he just isnt suited to the wing. I'd be shipping out Wotton, Wancashire, Poke, Pulis. Loaning out patterson for some experience i think he could be usefull in a couple of years Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenridge Posted 19 August, 2009 Share Posted 19 August, 2009 Let's think of other players that didn't fit conventional roles... MLT, Theo.... Not saying he is in their class one iota, but at this level IF the midfield is set up right with the right players in the right places, then he can be accomodated. I'm not sure though if it will happen, but he shouldn't go yet Have to agree with you Phil. Also, fortunately it would seem we are in a position where we don't desperately need the money so selling him would not achieve a great deal. With the addition of Dean Hammond and hopefully another then you may see a set-up that gives Lallana a better chance. I'm more worried about the likes of Wotton and Lancashire to be honest but then AP has said these are areas he has identified as requiring additions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy_Porter Posted 19 August, 2009 Share Posted 19 August, 2009 Unbalances the team if he plays right wing, isn't strong enough to play central midfield and isn't good enough to play him in the hole and build the team around him. Stick him in the reserves until Christmas and try and drill some positional sense into him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krissyboy31 Posted 19 August, 2009 Share Posted 19 August, 2009 Where at the moment? Should be playing second striker IMO, where his dribbling ability can do some real damage. Not in Midfield where his defensive weaknesses are shown up and not out wide for the same reason, plus lack of pace to get beyond the fullback. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 19 August, 2009 Share Posted 19 August, 2009 Perhaps loan him somewhere? as I agree with you completely and feel his presence is totally unbalancing the team He wouldn't go out on loan, his problem is he thinks she's too big for that now and after his supposded ''attitude'' in the summer - he belives he's too big for us. Putitng him in the reserves would probably prompt him to leave - but tbh, we will not see results with him in the team atm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scummer Posted 19 August, 2009 Share Posted 19 August, 2009 Always cracks me up when people talk about players as if they are a piece of meat. The people who moan when someone leaves are the same ones who are trigger happy when it comes to getting rid of players. Just because someone isn't playing very well at the moment, or isn't fitting the system, doesn't mean you should sell them. Even if we dropped him, we still need players to make up the squad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Channon's Sideburns Posted 19 August, 2009 Share Posted 19 August, 2009 Should be playing second striker IMO, where his dribbling ability can do some real damage. Not in Midfield where his defensive weaknesses are shown up and not out wide for the same reason, plus lack of pace to get beyond the fullback. TBH I don't think he's up to that either. Should not be picked upfront in place of Rasiak, Saga or Paterson - that would be crazy. Lallana with no real positioning in the team at present is an expensive luxury we cannot afford - think of Fabrice Fernandes... Now...if we're talking about Lee Holmes...now THAT'S someone who should be playing at the moment. Would give Lambert the ammunition he needs. Lallana = Crop Circles End of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skintsaint Posted 19 August, 2009 Share Posted 19 August, 2009 should play off Lambert imo...at home games only. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krissyboy31 Posted 19 August, 2009 Share Posted 19 August, 2009 TBH I don't think he's up to that either. Should not be picked upfront in place of Rasiak, Saga or Paterson - that would be crazy. Lallana with no real positioning in the team at present is an expensive luxury we cannot afford - think of Fabrice Fernandes... Now...if we're talking about Lee Holmes...now THAT'S someone who should be playing at the moment. Would give Lambert the ammunition he needs. Lallana = Crop Circles End of. Better player than Paterson and Rasiak and Saganowski are not interested and off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ribbo Posted 19 August, 2009 Share Posted 19 August, 2009 sell him after he's already scored one for us and played in 2 other matches where the rest of the teams played poor and he's played on the left hand side!!!! How about we try less this year to find scapegoats, be less knee-jerkist and just trust AP in improving what we already have and adding a spine to it, this club is being rebuilt and tough times lie ahead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Channon's Sideburns Posted 19 August, 2009 Share Posted 19 August, 2009 Davis Murty Thomas JPS Harding Schneiderlin Hammond Holland Holmes Lambert Kevin Lisbie ---- SORTED Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.comsaint Posted 19 August, 2009 Share Posted 19 August, 2009 Lallana? Don't believe the hype... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John B Posted 19 August, 2009 Author Share Posted 19 August, 2009 Davis Murty Thomas JPS Harding Schneiderlin Hammond Holland Holmes Lambert Kevin Lisbie ---- SORTED Nearly in my opinion a RW instead of Holland perhaps Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNSUN Posted 19 August, 2009 Share Posted 19 August, 2009 Tis all a bit knee jerk for me TBH. He's still a kid, still learning the game, is at the start of only his second full season, having played his first full season in a team full of crud duds with the responsibility of people's hopes resting on his shoulders, and having played the first 3 games of this second season in an unfamiliar position. If you lot really do want him sold, in your heart of hearts, surely we should let him showboat around for a season and sell him at a greatly inflated price?!?!?! IMO as soon as the team comes good, he (and to my mind Morgan) will come good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Wayman Posted 19 August, 2009 Share Posted 19 August, 2009 Who the hell would buy the useless yanker? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy_Porter Posted 19 August, 2009 Share Posted 19 August, 2009 Considering we have no wingers at all we should probably go back to the diamond and play Lallana just off Lambert and Rasiak with Schneiderlin, Gillett and Hammond the other three midfielders. Not sure Murty would have the energy to do all the running down the right mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krissyboy31 Posted 19 August, 2009 Share Posted 19 August, 2009 sell him after he's already scored one for us and played in 2 other matches where the rest of the teams played poor and he's played on the left hand side!!!! How about we try less this year to find scapegoats, be less knee-jerkist and just trust AP in improving what we already have and adding a spine to it, this club is being rebuilt and tough times lie ahead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alanh Posted 19 August, 2009 Share Posted 19 August, 2009 No, don't sell him, have a bit of patience. He looks like he isn't contributing to the team at the moment because he is playing our of position on the left wing and has a natural tendency to drift into the middle. He needs to find his rightful position, probably in a Le Tiss type of attacking midfield / stiker role, and not stuck out on the right or left wings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Channon's Sideburns Posted 19 August, 2009 Share Posted 19 August, 2009 No-one's Scapegoating...it's called improving the team. I happen to think we would play better without Wotton and Lallana - but, only if we brought in suitable replacements first. Lallana DOES NOT HAVE A ROLE WITHIN THE TEAM UNLESS YOU BUILD IT AROUND HIM. This is League 1 - let's wake up shall we? As soon as he gets the ball for a few circular flicks some 15st Centre Half will kick him in the Achilles. On the bench, great - bring him on and give him time to progress. I'm going to be controversial with my next suggestion - I think we should bring Jermaine Wright back. SERIOUSLY. Experience, solid, good fitness and can actually pass the ball. Ideal squad player for this league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derry Posted 19 August, 2009 Share Posted 19 August, 2009 Lallana needs to put the team shape before his off the cuff inclinations. The manager seems to be hoping against hope that he will perform but he is no better this year than he was last season. He needs to take a step back to the reserves, learn to be a team player and have occasional exposure in the first team, if they ever manage to work out what position he could play. If he is handled right he could develop into a good player but he needs a sprint/power coach to try and develop him physically. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seaford Saint Posted 19 August, 2009 Share Posted 19 August, 2009 No-one's Scapegoating...it's called improving the team. I happen to think we would play better without Wotton and Lallana - but, only if we brought in suitable replacements first. Lallana DOES NOT HAVE A ROLE WITHIN THE TEAM UNLESS YOU BUILD IT AROUND HIM. This is League 1 - let's wake up shall we? As soon as he gets the ball for a few circular flicks some 15st Centre Half will kick him in the Achilles. On the bench, great - bring him on and give him time to progress. I'm going to be controversial with my next suggestion - I think we should bring Jermaine Wright back. SERIOUSLY. Experience, solid, good fitness and can actually pass the ball. Ideal squad player for this league. Excellent post. My considered opinion is this...he's too good for the team. Maybe that's a reason to sell him, I don't know. The same is/was true of Surman. He has quick feet and a quick brain but is surrounded by donkies, in no special order.... Lambert, Patterson, Wotton, James....not to mention Lancashire. Who is he going to interact with? Lambert wil score goals but is limited as a footballer from what I have seen, I guess you play to his strengths but he knows where the net is. Can Lallana assist in this? I think he could playing in the right position with the right players around him. Jermaine Wright is probably past it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 19 August, 2009 Share Posted 19 August, 2009 been on about this for ages about lallana he does not fit into what we need right now..and should not be in the team.. the idea that some think we should shape the team around him is quite frankly...scarey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brightspark Posted 19 August, 2009 Share Posted 19 August, 2009 Sell him? We could'nt give him away. Honestly he is truly awful, runs around shows some nice touches, but cannot at anytime pass to any of his team mates, beat an opposing player or tackle. End of rant. Just like any Southampton player, he will come good when he leaves. A painful and truthful fact. We may as well be playing in the Southampton Local League Division 5 Reserves, and Lallana would be sh*t. But then he'd sign for a club like Wigan and get into the England squad!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mUrph Posted 19 August, 2009 Share Posted 19 August, 2009 I've always he's a bit like Joe Cole. If you sculpt him right he'll end up like Joe Cole is now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintrich Posted 19 August, 2009 Share Posted 19 August, 2009 Davis Murty Thomas JPS Harding Schneiderlin Hammond Holland Holmes Lambert Kevin Lisbie ---- SORTED Lisbie is on loan at Colchester from Ipswich... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectisSaint Posted 19 August, 2009 Share Posted 19 August, 2009 No, don't sell him, but leave him out of the 1st team and let Wilkins work with him. His main problem is that he has no end product. He is a headless chicken. This is because no-one apart from NP has taken the time to work out his best position and to coach him in the necessities of competitive football, i.e. beat your man and then unload the ball to a team mate. Lallana clearly has talent, but needs some 1on1 coaching. But he is currently a liability in the first team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arizona Posted 19 August, 2009 Share Posted 19 August, 2009 Not the right player for this team, but I wouldn't get rid of him yet. Needs a few reserve outigs to sort his game out without the pressure. Saints need proper wide men who stay wide and cross. P.S. And why are people obsessed with Matt Holland? The guy is 35 feckin years old and if he came it would only be for one last pay cheque. He was released by the Addicks for a reason and obviously failed to impress Colchester. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derry Posted 19 August, 2009 Share Posted 19 August, 2009 Not the right player for this team, but I wouldn't get rid of him yet. Needs a few reserve outigs to sort his game out without the pressure. Saints need proper wide men who stay wide and cross. P.S. And why are people obsessed with Matt Holland? The guy is 35 feckin years old and if he came it would only be for one last pay cheque. He was released by the Addicks for a reason and obviously failed to impress Colchester. At the beginning of last season one of the senior coaches took him to one side. He asked him not to run about so much as it devalued his game, he asked him to be more discerning and to try and get into dangerous positions and hurt the opposition, to pick his runs and make himself more effectve rather than just chasing around with little end product. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clifford Nelson Posted 19 August, 2009 Share Posted 19 August, 2009 Let's think of other players that didn't fit conventional roles... MLT, Theo.... Not saying he is in their class one iota, but at this level IF the midfield is set up right with the right players in the right places, then he can be accomodated. I'm not sure though if it will happen, but he shouldn't go yet At his age he shouldn't be "promising" or show "potential" anymore. He is 22 after all. I just wonder if he hasn't been hyped for the odd sign of cleverness, when in reality he neither scores, nor provides killer passes. His tackling has improved, but that's not why he's in the team. I'm afraid Schneiderlin is another one who doesn't really provide an end product in spite of his ball skills. It would be easier to have more ordinary wingers, and we have got a couple in the club already. At least our strikers would get some service. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dickyhale Posted 19 August, 2009 Share Posted 19 August, 2009 Restart the whole team keep Lambert And kelvin and sell the rest.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted 19 August, 2009 Share Posted 19 August, 2009 Lallana is one of the most gifted technical players at the club, to sell him would be ridiculous. Admittedly, one of his downfalls is that he doesn't have a set position, but fingers crossed Pards can find his best position and get him reproducing some of the performances that caught the eye of some Premiership sides. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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