RonManager Posted 19 August, 2009 Share Posted 19 August, 2009 (edited) http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11719_5501209,00.html http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11688_5503050,00.html On 6 month loan from Preston. 6' 2" defender. 22 years old. Neal Trotman original post credit Gav B 115 Edited 20 August, 2009 by RonManager correct spelling & acknowledgement & update Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
callysaint76 Posted 19 August, 2009 Share Posted 19 August, 2009 Welcome Mr Trott Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrZuess1979 the 2nd Posted 19 August, 2009 Share Posted 19 August, 2009 A CB I am happy now !!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winchester Red Posted 19 August, 2009 Share Posted 19 August, 2009 ....... Another kid..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigchrisy Posted 19 August, 2009 Share Posted 19 August, 2009 Yippe a cb FINALLY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ottery st mary Posted 19 August, 2009 Share Posted 19 August, 2009 Loaned to Colchester last March....22 yrs. 6' 2/3 " EX OLDHAM lETS HOPE HE IS THE ANSWER AT THE BACK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Boy Saint Posted 19 August, 2009 Share Posted 19 August, 2009 Lets hope he has a big enough mouth from the off and backs it up by doing the right things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skintsaint Posted 19 August, 2009 Share Posted 19 August, 2009 underwhelmed slightly... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ottery st mary Posted 19 August, 2009 Share Posted 19 August, 2009 fFrom Wiki.......Burnley Youth....Oldham 18 appearances 2006/8 Halifax 11 apps PNE 3 apps.......Injured and on recovery loaned to Colchester for 6 appearances March 2009. Hot prospect with good aerial ability..Athleticism, strength and sharpness..... Was purchased from Oldham by PNE for £500,000 ...Injury? Sounds reasonable at one time..We will soon see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigchrisy Posted 19 August, 2009 Share Posted 19 August, 2009 Has already scored for PNE in the cup this season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kpturner Posted 19 August, 2009 Share Posted 19 August, 2009 Fingers crossed he can defend set pieces. Would like to see a permanent signing at CB also - but who knows what Father Christmas might bring in the next window. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon Mockles Posted 19 August, 2009 Share Posted 19 August, 2009 A good day for Saints really. Replacements for 2 of our worst players - Hammond for Wotton. I'm hoping Trotman is good or Pardew wouldn't have brought him in but he must be an improvement on Lancashire! 22 is young but he's a tall, strong looking lad. Let's hope we improve on Saturday. I'd love to see a midfield with Holmes (LEFT WING), Hammond & Gillett (or Morgan) CM. Mellis (RIGHT WING) Harding - Perry - Thomas - Murty Saga - Lambert Strong squad with a decent bench of Rasiak, Lallana, Trotman, Gobern, Morgan/Wotton Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Boy Saint Posted 19 August, 2009 Share Posted 19 August, 2009 Ooo-errrr! Hope he comes with a translator ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hamster Posted 19 August, 2009 Share Posted 19 August, 2009 ....... Another kid..... Another loanee !! Sorry, I just don't see why we aren't backing our convictions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deanovski Posted 19 August, 2009 Share Posted 19 August, 2009 feckin great a loan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kpturner Posted 19 August, 2009 Share Posted 19 August, 2009 Another loanee !! Sorry, I just don't see why we aren't backing our convictions.Well I guess a loanee is a good option of there is no suitable permanent signing in the offing. A loanee is low risk option while waiting for the right permie to become available. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kpturner Posted 19 August, 2009 Share Posted 19 August, 2009 Ooo-errrr! Hope he comes with a translator ;-) LOL - the journo was even less audible. Crap recording TBH. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 19 August, 2009 Share Posted 19 August, 2009 Been looking on there board. Says he is pacy and great with headers. Sounds like exactly what we need. I hope we get in another cb if we can though along with a winger and then a striker if the polish go Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saints foreva Posted 19 August, 2009 Share Posted 19 August, 2009 Been looking on there board. Says he is pacy and great with headers. Sounds like exactly what we need. I hope we get in another cb if we can though along with a winger and then a striker if the polish go Link please? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Boy Saint Posted 19 August, 2009 Share Posted 19 August, 2009 Does make you laugh all the comments about "another youngster" at 22!! In the Saints team from last year at 22 most of them will have been on the front line for 6 years! When Michael Owen was picked for England against Argentina in France '98 some folks from here must have been having coronaries.......... Have you notice how the coppers look younger these days ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Godfather Posted 19 August, 2009 Share Posted 19 August, 2009 Don't care about his age, along as he can defend in this league as in win headers and be strong on the ball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 19 August, 2009 Share Posted 19 August, 2009 Im on my phone so cannot post it. It's under pne-forum.net I think. Search trotman on there and there's a topic on him and another player Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deanovski Posted 19 August, 2009 Share Posted 19 August, 2009 (edited) hardly saying i dont think hes good or we should get th best..just that hes a loan and not a purchase...what about next seasons he farks off in the same position we are now or even worse he farks off at christmas Edited 19 August, 2009 by Deanovski Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 19 August, 2009 Share Posted 19 August, 2009 I predict we will get another cb in before the end of the window. If so this is a good move Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deanovski Posted 19 August, 2009 Share Posted 19 August, 2009 if so i agree hypo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.comsaint Posted 19 August, 2009 Share Posted 19 August, 2009 Give the experienced JPS a shout across the North Sea to play alongside this lad and I'll be a lot happier! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Fan CaM Posted 19 August, 2009 Share Posted 19 August, 2009 Could turn out to be a gem. But it's a risk I'm not sure AP should have taken...time will tell. Strange it's just a loan though-perhaps there is another perm on the way. Not putting my house on it though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 19 August, 2009 Share Posted 19 August, 2009 (edited) Sounds good - nothing wrong with a youngish and oldish CB partnership - its defensive equivalent of little and large combo upfront. One wise-head to organise and read the game, the other with a bit of athleticism/pace to do the bidding and clean things up. That Blackburn and Derby (when they were in the Prem) were looking at him a few seasons ago and he recently turned down Millwall must say something. These are all clubs that have been able to spot a good brick sh*thouse in their time. Edited 19 August, 2009 by shurlock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crab Lungs Posted 20 August, 2009 Share Posted 20 August, 2009 I think this boy will shock a few of you. in a good way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 20 August, 2009 Share Posted 20 August, 2009 Fine, IF we sign an experienced centre back too. Why the hell isn't JPS here? He looked good a league higher in a woeful team. Not to mention we'd have someone who could shoot from set pieces. He's free and wants to play for us, I just don't see where the risk is. too true - here you've got Pards complaining how difficult it is to twist clubs arms and bring players in and there's a proven player saying come and get me. How hard can it be FFS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeShmoe Posted 20 August, 2009 Share Posted 20 August, 2009 Fine, IF we sign an experienced centre back too. Why the hell isn't JPS here? He looked good a league higher in a woeful team. Not to mention we'd have someone who could shoot from set pieces. He's free and wants to play for us, I just don't see where the risk is. Totally agree. For all his faults he's a world better than Thomas or Lancashire and Perry, bless im, is on his last legs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John B Posted 20 August, 2009 Share Posted 20 August, 2009 (edited) Well I guess a loanee is a good option of there is no suitable permanent signing in the offing. A loanee is low risk option while waiting for the right permie to become available. Very true . Getting loans is very good as if they are no good you can off load them We dont want to sign players on long contracts if they are good for League 1 but do not have the potential to be VG in the CCC But Trotman seems to be what is required at the moment Edited 20 August, 2009 by John B Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 20 August, 2009 Share Posted 20 August, 2009 If he's the player i think he is....then he is extremely highly rated. I remember there being a feature before one of Colchesters live games last year, where either Peter Beagre or Kamara previewed this player and raved about him... Millwall were v keen to sign him too. from the preview of him i remember them describing him as a ''technically gifted, extremely quick, but an amazingly strong CB for his age''. Preston fans aren't happy he's gone - they think he should be in their first team! Forget all that though, we should have signed him for £5m to signal our intent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draino76 Posted 20 August, 2009 Share Posted 20 August, 2009 If he's the player i think he is....then he is extremely highly rated. I remember there being a feature before one of Colchesters live games last year, where either Peter Beagre or Kamara previewed this player and raved about him... Millwall were v keen to sign him too. from the preview of him i remember them describing him as a ''technically gifted, extremely quick, but an amazingly strong CB for his age''. Preston fans aren't happy he's gone - they think he should be in their first team! Forget all that though, we should have signed him for £5m to signal our intent If so, I agree S-Clarke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DT Posted 20 August, 2009 Share Posted 20 August, 2009 now we need a keeper who doesn't confuse every defence he's been with... Good signing though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madruss Posted 20 August, 2009 Share Posted 20 August, 2009 Been looking on there board. Says he is pacy and great with headers. Sounds like exactly what we need. I hope we get in another cb if we can though along with a winger and then a striker if the polish go Yeah but it doesn't matter how good he is though cos he's a loan signing FFS. I personally would be unhappy if we signed John Terry on loan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thorpie the sinner Posted 20 August, 2009 Share Posted 20 August, 2009 Has this been confirmed yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John B Posted 20 August, 2009 Share Posted 20 August, 2009 (edited) Has this been confirmed yet? Not from what I can see at the moment http://www.pne-online.net/forum/showthread.php?t=42545 Edited 20 August, 2009 by John B Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lordswoodsaints Posted 20 August, 2009 Share Posted 20 August, 2009 but who knows what Father Christmas might bring in the next window. Probably another relegation or another manager change,we usually get one of them.......I don't know why we don't get socks or a soap on a rope like everyone else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
del boy Posted 20 August, 2009 Share Posted 20 August, 2009 It could be good news - might mean that the experienced CB signing is already in the bag (or maybe thats just wishful thinking) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farawaysaint Posted 20 August, 2009 Share Posted 20 August, 2009 I don't understand why everyone seems shocked that pardew won't sign jps. He's probably only seen him play once or twice and looking at our defensive stats the last couple of seasons i don't think any cb of ours is in high demand. I'm not saying he wasn't a good player just that pardew probably isn't willing to stake his job on a player he doubtless has very little information about and will want his own targets Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samoakley Posted 20 August, 2009 Share Posted 20 August, 2009 Sounds good hope he signs now we just need a winger and were be on 0 points in no time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John B Posted 20 August, 2009 Share Posted 20 August, 2009 I don't understand why everyone seems shocked that pardew won't sign jps. He's probably only seen him play once or twice and looking at our defensive stats the last couple of seasons i don't think any cb of ours is in high demand. I'm not saying he wasn't a good player just that pardew probably isn't willing to stake his job on a player he doubtless has very little information about and will want his own targets But could he not get him on loan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubai_phil Posted 20 August, 2009 Share Posted 20 August, 2009 Pah, no wonder AP with those negative body language vibes at Swindon.... When does he find time to SLEEP? A new signing per day! FFS slow down man you'll burn out... However, as you're obviously on a role can you just complete the path to near hero status by booking a taxi for 5pm on 31st For Pulis (or insert personal pet hate/space waster name here) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 20 August, 2009 Share Posted 20 August, 2009 bit of a worry that AP has worked "non stop" trying to sign a CB and when he does he signs some unknown, unproven youngster on loan!? Keeps talking about team needing experience but then looks to give other teams unexperienced players some experience. Hope he knows what he's doing........Preston fans seem to have mixed opinions. ahh well I will give him a chance - still think we need another CB (Jaidi mold) losing both Perry and Thomas from the team would be good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 20 August, 2009 Share Posted 20 August, 2009 However, as you're obviously on a role can you just complete the path to near hero status by booking a taxi for 5pm on 31st For Perry, Thomas, Lancashire, Llana, Rasiak, Wotton, Saga, Spider DP we will have nobody left? :confused: I agree thou Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidney Fudpucker the 3rd Posted 20 August, 2009 Share Posted 20 August, 2009 This is bull****. Why are we taking players on 6 month loan deals? We are supposed to be building a team that will get us out of L1. Have we not learned the lesson with loan players? Part of the reason for our demise over the last few seasons has been because we've had too many loanees who are not commited enough because thay have no passion for the club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St.Patrik Posted 20 August, 2009 Share Posted 20 August, 2009 Well if it work out perhaps they can be bought for a fee in January - if they are ****e - just send them back. Loans are good things - at least when they are as long as 6 months. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubai_phil Posted 20 August, 2009 Share Posted 20 August, 2009 This is bull****. Why are we taking players on 6 month loan deals? We are supposed to be building a team that will get us out of L1. Have we not learned the lesson with loan players? Part of the reason for our demise over the last few seasons has been because we've had too many loanees who are not commited enough because thay have no passion for the club. Possible answers 1) We still expect to sign Jaidi but the Work Permit process and appeals could take 2 or 3 months 2) AP has possibly seen something in Lancashire that coaching and maybe a loan could bring out 3) He is waiting for a better player to become available in January 4) He has another one lined up on a full-time contract 5) He needs to move high earning players out before making any more long term commitments due to the playing staff wage budget that agreed when he joined - as in he gets rid of one out of Rasiak or Saga and has enough money for 3 L1 professionals All options. Seeing as the Holiday Camp team have all left the building, I'll go with the Baldrick option - he's working to a cunning plan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubai_phil Posted 20 August, 2009 Share Posted 20 August, 2009 Well if it work out perhaps they can be bought for a fee in January - if they are ****e - just send them back. Loans are good things - at least when they are as long as 6 months. As in Andrew Davies - yes that worked well Saga - possibly no he was much better while on loan But he could also be out of contract by then we don't know And with a youngster, perhaps better to make sure he fits the bill rather than have another Pulis/Gasmi/Smith hanging around Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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