oxfordshire_saint Posted 14 September, 2009 Share Posted 14 September, 2009 Whilst I'm not predicting doom and gloom, I'm not buying into the theory that Yeovil are lambs to the slaughter on Saturday. Against Stockport at the weekend they had their keeper sent off but still managed to come from behind twice and draw 2-2, they've clearly got a bit of belief and spirit. I expect them to be a well-organised, solid team that come to try and stifle us, as many so called "smaller" teams will this season. So although I expect 3 points from this game, I'm fully expecting us to have to work for it. Let's not get too over-confident beforehand though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harvey Posted 14 September, 2009 Share Posted 14 September, 2009 Whilst I'm not predicting doom and gloom, I'm not buying into the theory that Yeovil are lambs to the slaughter on Saturday. Against Stockport at the weekend they had their keeper sent off but still managed to come from behind twice and draw 2-2, they've clearly got a bit of belief and spirit. I expect them to be a well-organised, solid team that come to try and stifle us, as many so called "smaller" teams will this season. So although I expect 3 points from this game, I'm fully expecting us to have to work for it. Let's not get too over-confident beforehand though. Nope, we're gonna do em big time...........and that's what AP should be telling the squad all week. We're a big club for this league, and now we've got a good squad we should start winning games convincingly (sp). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J Bizzle Posted 14 September, 2009 Share Posted 14 September, 2009 We will DESTROY them! 6-0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oxfordshire_saint Posted 14 September, 2009 Author Share Posted 14 September, 2009 Nope, we're gonna do em big time...........and that's what AP should be telling the squad all week. We're a big club for this league, and now we've got a good squad we should start winning games convincingly (sp). Don't get me wrong, there's every possibility they may be on the end of a hiding, but I just get this feeling that the majority of people are going to be going to this game expecting a guaranteed 4-0 victory or something along those lines, which is dangerous to assume and also why some people decide to boo when it doesn't happen. We're a scalp for people this season, team's aren't coming to St Mary's to roll over and have their tummy tickled, they'll be up for it, coupled with the fact they'll probably be well supported, I think it'll be a tougher game than people are making out. That said, I'll happily eat my words if we dish out a spanking Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rocknrollman no2 Posted 14 September, 2009 Share Posted 14 September, 2009 Ive learnt that being a Saints fan means you shouldnt take anything or any team for granted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harvey Posted 14 September, 2009 Share Posted 14 September, 2009 Don't get me wrong, there's every possibility they may be on the end of a hiding, but I just get this feeling that the majority of people are going to be going to this game expecting a guaranteed 4-0 victory or something along those lines, which is dangerous to assume and also why some people decide to boo when it doesn't happen. We're a scalp for people this season, team's aren't coming to St Mary's to roll over and have their tummy tickled, they'll be up for it, coupled with the fact they'll probably be well supported, I think it'll be a tougher game than people are making out. That said, I'll happily eat my words if we dish out a spanking The trouble is though, ever since we went down from the Premiership people have been saying that we're "a scalp". That brings on the loosing mentality...we've gotta shrug that off and start getting nasty. We've gotta start saying "we're better than you, and you know it"......at the end of the day, we've got to start winning games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wightman35 Posted 14 September, 2009 Share Posted 14 September, 2009 Ive learnt that being a Saints fan means you shouldnt take anything or any team for granted. This is so true! You have surely written the post of the week. let us hope AP gets the team up for it this Saturday. I cannot see Yeovil being a pushover, as some of us dream. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Micky Posted 14 September, 2009 Share Posted 14 September, 2009 The thread is only 4 posts long and you can probably see the reasons as to a lot of our problems. We think we are good. When will people start to realise that we are no better than a lot of teams in this league - if we were then we wouldn't be here. We are on par with most of the teams in this league - that includes Yeovil Town, get used to it. Believing that they are turning up to make up the numbers is about as foolish as any professional sportsperson can get. Once we regularly start to win football matches, and achieve promotion twice thus regaining a place in the top league - then I might believe that we are good. Until, I will aford our competitors the respect they deserve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotty Posted 14 September, 2009 Share Posted 14 September, 2009 Ive learnt that being a Saints fan means you shouldnt take anything or any team for granted. +1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oxfordshire_saint Posted 14 September, 2009 Author Share Posted 14 September, 2009 The trouble is though, ever since we went down from the Premiership people have been saying that we're "a scalp". That brings on the loosing mentality...we've gotta shrug that off and start getting nasty. We've gotta start saying "we're better than you, and you know it"......at the end of the day, we've got to start winning games. I see where you're coming from, but we've done nothing to justify that attitude yet, the only reasons we'd have for that mindset are our history and the size of our ground, which if anything, count against us at this level. I'm not saying we should approach them without any confidence, if there's one thing we need at the moment it's confidence, but in my experience, it's when you end up getting ****y and not giving respect where it's due that you end up falling on your face. Remember all the teams we chanted "you'll never play here again" to when we first got relegated to the CCC? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legod Third Coming Posted 14 September, 2009 Share Posted 14 September, 2009 Right, here are the rules for Saturday: 1. Create a wall of noise. It it a big stadium, we are a big club, make them know it. 2. Boo every one of their touches. Loudly. Like Milan do. 3. Ensure that not a single Yeovil fan can hear himself think, let alone his songs. Get behind the lads for 95 minutes of solid noise. WE can scare teams into anxiety. US. I cannot be there Saturday so do it for me. And make Saturday the first 3 points of the 117 we are playing for. Finish on 112 and we're promoted. Champions. Simples. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toomer Posted 14 September, 2009 Share Posted 14 September, 2009 I think it will be a hard fought 3-1 win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Micky Posted 14 September, 2009 Share Posted 14 September, 2009 Right, here are the rules for Saturday: 1. Create a wall of noise. It it a big stadium, we are a big club, make them know it. 2. Boo every one of their touches. Loudly. Like Milan do. 3. Ensure that not a single Yeovil fan can hear himself think, let alone his songs. Get behind the lads for 95 minutes of solid noise. WE can scare teams into anxiety. US. I cannot be there Saturday so do it for me. And make Saturday the first 3 points of the 117 we are playing for. Finish on 112 and we're promoted. Champions. Simples. Actually not a bad game plan. That said though, it will be interesting to see what: A. The fans do and B. The players do if we go behind. And if we go behind by more than 1 goal - that will be very interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harvey Posted 14 September, 2009 Share Posted 14 September, 2009 (edited) I see where you're coming from, but we've done nothing to justify that attitude yet, the only reasons we'd have for that mindset are our history and the size of our ground, which if anything, count against us at this level. I'm not saying we should approach them without any confidence, if there's one thing we need at the moment it's confidence, but in my experience, it's when you end up getting ****y and not giving respect where it's due that you end up falling on your face. Remember all the teams we chanted "you'll never play here again" to when we first got relegated to the CCC? But this is the first time since we've been relegated that I've felt confident in our team, management and owners to be able to say that. Not once since 2005 have I felt happy with the way the club has been going and expected the team to beat any other team that we've competed against. As soon as we went down, I said we should try and hold on to our best players and spend an additional 5M to go straight back up. Ofcourse RL being the the personality that he is/was, thought we could do better by selling our best players and then buying no one..........that's the attitude fo a loser and it's gone on from there. Edited 14 September, 2009 by harvey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint lard Posted 14 September, 2009 Share Posted 14 September, 2009 Damn,and i thought the season started this coming Saturday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 14 September, 2009 Share Posted 14 September, 2009 Our set-up should respond to the fact that "smaller" teams will come to our place, be compact and stifle us. We shouldn't be waiting till the 50th min before we take the gloves off (at which time the nerves start setting in). We need to get into them from the off and go for that early goal that upsets their gameplan. Schneiderlin is a natural start for these type of games (possibly played in a more forward position???); more adventurously (though I doubt it'll ever happen) it would be great to see Saga, Lambert, Lallana and Waigo start together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harvey Posted 14 September, 2009 Share Posted 14 September, 2009 Our set-up should respond to the fact that "smaller" teams will come to our place, be compact and stifle us. We shouldn't be waiting till the 50th min before we take the gloves off (at which time the nerves start setting in). We need to get into them from the off and go for that early goal that upsets their gameplan. Schneiderlin is a natural start for these type of games (possibly played in a more forward position???); more adventurously (though I doubt it'll ever happen) it would be great to see Saga, Lambert, Lallana and Waigo start together. Exactly, attack is the best form of defence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oxfordshire_saint Posted 14 September, 2009 Author Share Posted 14 September, 2009 Exactly, attack is the best form of defence. Now that, I'm not arguing! My point was the mindset of the fans, expecting to turn up and watch us coast past Yeovil. I'm all for us taking a positive gameplan and going at them, negativity cost us in games like Swindon away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Without a Halo Posted 14 September, 2009 Share Posted 14 September, 2009 This is so true! You have surely written the post of the week. let us hope AP gets the team up for it this Saturday. I cannot see Yeovil being a pushover, as some of us dream. The fact Yeovil at home are no longer a push over just brings home how far we have sunk in such a short time! Just a few years back, drawing Yeovil at home in the league cup would have provided the opportunity to rest our first team and even our reserves and field a team made up largely of youth team players to give them a bit of experience. They would have gone on to show what they could do brimming with the confidence of the fact they were from a top academy with a winning mentality at a premier club and the need to impress the management with the full expectation of coming away with a win. Now after 16 months of spiralling downwards as a club and forgeting what it feels like to even win, never mind win conviningly, even our first team will be full of trepidation at the start of the match. It is therefore incumbent on all of us fans to get behind them, We all must banish the recent memories of a lack of goals, the inability to hold a lead and the expectation of the opposition finally breaking us down. We must help instill a new steely confidence and winning mentality at the club again. Only then can we build on that foundation and move onwards and upwards! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harvey Posted 14 September, 2009 Share Posted 14 September, 2009 Now that, I'm not arguing! My point was the mindset of the fans, expecting to turn up and watch us coast past Yeovil. I'm all for us taking a positive gameplan and going at them, negativity cost us in games like Swindon away. I think that's where we've found some common ground OS Tbh, I knew where you were coming from, but I really do think that we've got to think a bit more positive ya'know......that's my opinion anyway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 14 September, 2009 Share Posted 14 September, 2009 if we dont beat yeovil, we are crap...basically Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supersubpuckett Posted 14 September, 2009 Share Posted 14 September, 2009 we'll hammer the cider drinking bumpkins Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 14 September, 2009 Share Posted 14 September, 2009 they are crap..no money..crap players and were lucky to stay up last season... got to be a win at home.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Verbal Posted 14 September, 2009 Share Posted 14 September, 2009 And if we go behind by more than 1 goal - that will be very interesting. Interesting perhaps, but impossible. I mean, the laws of physics don't allow it. The team - finally - is a lot better than the one last year and is just about good and ready to wallop Yeovil 1-0. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legod Third Coming Posted 14 September, 2009 Share Posted 14 September, 2009 Now that, I'm not arguing! My point was the mindset of the fans, expecting to turn up and watch us coast past Yeovil. I'm all for us taking a positive gameplan and going at them, negativity cost us in games like Swindon away. We cannot 'expect' anything. We - fans and players alike - must turn up and give the best account of ourselves possible. WE (well you, I can't be there) can make the PLACE intimidating. And then, the team must do their bit with us having pummelled Yeovil into anxious wrecks. And believe me it can happen, it does happen. If they are not right mentally, we can kill them before the game starts!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesus Reigned Posted 14 September, 2009 Share Posted 14 September, 2009 I assume their keeper will be suspended following his sending-off at the week-end? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Fan CaM Posted 14 September, 2009 Share Posted 14 September, 2009 The thread is only 4 posts long and you can probably see the reasons as to a lot of our problems. We think we are good. When will people start to realise that we are no better than a lot of teams in this league - if we were then we wouldn't be here. We are on par with most of the teams in this league - that includes Yeovil Town, get used to it. Believing that they are turning up to make up the numbers is about as foolish as any professional sportsperson can get. Once we regularly start to win football matches, and achieve promotion twice thus regaining a place in the top league - then I might believe that we are good. Until, I will aford our competitors the respect they deserve. +1... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Professor Posted 15 September, 2009 Share Posted 15 September, 2009 Saints haven't won a league game since Easter Monday - 13th April - over 6 months ago. That might be some sort of record in itself and a reason not to be too confident, but I do expect a win at last on Saturday, if only because records like that have to come to an end. Although we do now have a strong squad, some of the players are not fully ready, but if they can not only win, but wipe out the goals against deficit, that would really be something to celebrate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 15 September, 2009 Share Posted 15 September, 2009 Whilst I'm not predicting doom and gloom, I'm not buying into the theory that Yeovil are lambs to the slaughter on Saturday. Against Stockport at the weekend they had their keeper sent off but still managed to come from behind twice and draw 2-2, they've clearly got a bit of belief and spirit. I expect them to be a well-organised, solid team that come to try and stifle us, as many so called "smaller" teams will this season. So although I expect 3 points from this game, I'm fully expecting us to have to work for it. Let's not get too over-confident beforehand though. I expect it to be exactly as you predict. However, there is a good chance that if we get that second goal that seems so elusive this season, the floodgates will open. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 15 September, 2009 Share Posted 15 September, 2009 Ive learnt that being a Saints fan means you shouldnt take anything or any team for granted. Aint that the truth..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lordswoodsaints Posted 15 September, 2009 Share Posted 15 September, 2009 (edited) It should be a comfortable win,but let's face it,I suspect it's not going to be. Yeovil will be coming to spoil things and add yet more pressure,couple this with an over expectant crowd and you will start to here the boos loud and clear by halftime. Edited 15 September, 2009 by lordswoodsaints Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 15 September, 2009 Share Posted 15 September, 2009 in looking for our first win, I'd much rather be playing, say, Leeds at home than Yeovil. We naturally play better against the 'bigger' teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 15 September, 2009 Share Posted 15 September, 2009 It should be a comfortable win,but let's face it,I suspect it's not going to be. Yeovil will be coming to spoil things and add yet more pressure,couple this with an over expectant crowd and you will start to here the boos loud and clear by halftime. If I were AP, I would tell the players to expect this, and also inform them its time to grow up and rise to the challenge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 15 September, 2009 Share Posted 15 September, 2009 what a lot of nervous nellies you all are, we will slaughter them 1-0 ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ponty Posted 15 September, 2009 Share Posted 15 September, 2009 This is the first league game I have put down for a victory on the predictor. That should tell you everything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nadia Sllim Posted 15 September, 2009 Share Posted 15 September, 2009 2-2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farawaysaint Posted 15 September, 2009 Share Posted 15 September, 2009 This is the first league game I have put down for a victory on the predictor. That should tell you everything. That you're a negative but entirely accurate git? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonibell Posted 15 September, 2009 Share Posted 15 September, 2009 We will DESTROY them one nil if we are lucky And they plan to open the ground bars to sell beer for a later time. Hope Saints end up with Egg on your face Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ponty Posted 15 September, 2009 Share Posted 15 September, 2009 Not "entirely" accurate. The rest is pretty spot on though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dune Posted 15 September, 2009 Share Posted 15 September, 2009 This is a must win game where we have to create good chances and put them away. I'm expecting a win and anything less is unacceptable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
broncoboy Posted 15 September, 2009 Share Posted 15 September, 2009 We have to win a game eventually. Eventually we can get to a league where we can win a game. How about Hamble Tyro league under 12's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNSUN Posted 15 September, 2009 Share Posted 15 September, 2009 I don't like to underestimate teams in case they make us look like turd, but in this case I can't see anything other than a Saints victory. All the work put in during the recent weeks, and the strengthening and belief that now exists will show on Saturday and I'd be very suprised (and annoyed as I'm having a flutter on Saints) if we don't win by more than 2 goals. Lambert has struggled to score in the last couple of games, but now we have left midfielders rather than an out-of-position Lallana, he'll get the service he desires and will score a couple. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Verbal Posted 15 September, 2009 Share Posted 15 September, 2009 We will win, you miserable sods. Promise... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BotleySaint Posted 15 September, 2009 Share Posted 15 September, 2009 1-0 defeat written all over it - last gasp Yeovil strike. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sussexsaint Posted 15 September, 2009 Share Posted 15 September, 2009 We will win, it will be a professional assured performance we will keep a clean sheet but we will lament missed chances and comeon here stating 'we could have had 9' when we only got 2 I am looking for a win and a more assured team performance - we are still rebuilding but the last bit of the puizzle is to learn how to win and shut down the game. Presumably if their keeper was send off he will not be eligable to play on Saturday? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 15 September, 2009 Share Posted 15 September, 2009 Presumably if their keeper was send off he will not be eligable to play on Saturday? Those of us who are old enough to remember Jan Tomaszevski will always redoubt that sort of statement.He was a stand in as well,labelled "a clown" by Brian Clough he stopped everything from Channon,Chivers and Clark and cost England a place in the world cup finals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nineteen Canteen Posted 15 September, 2009 Share Posted 15 September, 2009 The thread is only 4 posts long and you can probably see the reasons as to a lot of our problems. We think we are good. When will people start to realise that we are no better than a lot of teams in this league - if we were then we wouldn't be here. We are on par with most of the teams in this league - that includes Yeovil Town, get used to it. Believing that they are turning up to make up the numbers is about as foolish as any professional sportsperson can get. Once we regularly start to win football matches, and achieve promotion twice thus regaining a place in the top league - then I might believe that we are good. Until, I will aford our competitors the respect they deserve. One of the most sensible comments I have read on hear in a long time. We are a club with Premier League facilities but with a squad being built to win league 1 maybe next season not take the Premier League by storm in August 2011. It's this 'big club' mentality that keeps many fans away as they can't support their club for some reason or other in League 1 of the CCC and IMO the disappointment comes most vocally from those who stay away even acknowledging the presence of the usual boo boys. Queens Park's home ground in Scotland is Hampden Park and yet all those international facilities doesn't give them automatic bragging rights or the ability to beat even the mighty Annan Athletic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nineteen Canteen Posted 15 September, 2009 Share Posted 15 September, 2009 This is a must win game where we have to create good chances and put them away. I'm expecting a win and anything less is unacceptable. Why? Unacceptable to whom? Will it mean the end of the season? Automatic relegation? It seems Dune you couldn't buy some perspective so I won't ask you to try and find some. A betting man would suggest a draw as the form choice to extend our 4 game unbeaten run in the league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 15 September, 2009 Share Posted 15 September, 2009 The thread is only 4 posts long and you can probably see the reasons as to a lot of our problems. We think we are good. When will people start to realise that we are no better than a lot of teams in this league - if we were then we wouldn't be here. We are on par with most of the teams in this league - that includes Yeovil Town, get used to it. Believing that they are turning up to make up the numbers is about as foolish as any professional sportsperson can get. Once we regularly start to win football matches, and achieve promotion twice thus regaining a place in the top league - then I might believe that we are good. Until, I will aford our competitors the respect they deserve. are we, could yeovil snap up the leagues top scorer and immediately double his wages..? the cost of lambert is almost as much as the next 3 top league 1 transfers put together...could yeovl sign waigo, jaidi, harding..could yeovil sign hammond..? No, they will probably be lucky to spend the money we have so far this season over the next 5 years at least.. so NO, we are not on par with yeovil..(who have an average attendace of around 5k) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farawaysaint Posted 15 September, 2009 Share Posted 15 September, 2009 are we, could yeovil snap up the leagues top scorer and immediately double his wages..? the cost of lambert is almost as much as the next 3 top league 1 transfers put together...could yeovl sign waigo, jaidi, harding..could yeovil sign hammond..? No, they will probably be lucky to spend the money we have so far this season over the next 5 years at least.. so NO, we are not on par with yeovil..(who have an average attendace of around 5k) You're right, we are in no way on par with Yeovil who have already won a game, (ok only one to be fair) and would be ahead of us in the table even without the deduction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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