trousers Posted 30 September, 2009 Share Posted 30 September, 2009 I'm reading reports on here that his heart didn't appear 'up for it' last night. Do people who were there get the feeling this was a pyschological thing because we were playing against his old team mates or was it just an off day that could easily have occurred against any team. A tad worrying if the former as would tend to suggest his heart is still with Rovers.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John B Posted 30 September, 2009 Share Posted 30 September, 2009 I was wondering whether he scored lots of goals last season because Rovers were a good team or because he was good player They dont seemed to have missed him very much. I did see some post on another thread that apart from last season Lambert has not been a really prolific scorer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redondo Saint Posted 30 September, 2009 Share Posted 30 September, 2009 Last night was the first time I saw him play and think he got battered by their centre backs rather than didn't try hard. Rovers know all about him and as such kept him quiet. No conspiracy here!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 30 September, 2009 Author Share Posted 30 September, 2009 I was wondering whether he scored lots of goals last season because Rovers were a good team or because he was good player They dont seemed to have missed him very much. I did see some post on another thread that apart from last season Lambert has not been a really prolific scorer Dodgy analogy alert...a bit like buying Paul McCartney after watching a Beatles tour and liking what you heard? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 30 September, 2009 Author Share Posted 30 September, 2009 Last night was the first time I saw him play and think he got battered by their centre backs rather than didn't try hard. Rovers know all about him and as such kept him quiet. No conspiracy here!!! If it was that obvious that rovers would target him and stiffle him out f the game, perhaps (just perhaps) pardew could have played a masterstroke by putting him on the bench? As you suggest, not hindsight but foresight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redondo Saint Posted 30 September, 2009 Share Posted 30 September, 2009 If it was that obvious that rovers would target him and stiffle him out f the game, perhaps (just perhaps) pardew could have played a masterstroke by putting him on the bench? As you suggest, not hindsight but foresight. Interesting. Perhaps a better option would have been to put low crosses with pace in from the wings rather than long balls in the middle (perhaps!). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebel Posted 30 September, 2009 Share Posted 30 September, 2009 I think there was a bit of that to be honest - I'm not convinced he really wants to be here at the moment. He never seemed to attack the ball - seemed to want it on a plate if at all. And if Davis' long balls got anywhere near him he didn't seem to win them anyway! He's not the big centre forward - dominant in the air we hoped he was. He's got no pace either! We need to change our style of play - keep the ball on the ground, get some width and pace down the wings and pass it to Lamberts feet if we are going to get the best out of him We Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Mikey Posted 30 September, 2009 Share Posted 30 September, 2009 What a load of sh!te. He actually scored! God knows why it wasn't given as it went a foot over the line, lucky Papa put it in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John B Posted 30 September, 2009 Share Posted 30 September, 2009 Dodgy analogy alert...a bit like buying Paul McCartney after watching a Beatles tour and liking what you heard? Did anyone actually watch Lambert before buying him or was it on reputation alone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Give it to Ron Posted 30 September, 2009 Share Posted 30 September, 2009 So a player makes 2 goals and is ****e...god there are some real cretins on this forum!!! He held the ball up and waited for support - he flicked headers into players paths and ran the line superbly. Jeesh I can't believe some of you ever go to watch a game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smithy Posted 30 September, 2009 Share Posted 30 September, 2009 So a player makes 2 goals and is ****e...god there are some real cretins on this forum!!! He held the ball up and waited for support - he flicked headers into players paths and ran the line superbly. Jeesh I can't believe some of you ever go to watch a game. Exactly what I was going to post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wade Garrett Posted 30 September, 2009 Share Posted 30 September, 2009 He slipped Lallana through for the first goal, and hit the bar for the second. The problem is he is feeding on scraps. His supply is the problem, get wingers who can get to the line and put a decent ball in, and you'll see the best of Lambert. Most of the time last night he was challenging for headers facing away from the goal because they were coming in from too deep. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junior Mullet Posted 30 September, 2009 Share Posted 30 September, 2009 The Rovers fans cheered him at the start of the game and sung his name and clapped him throughout. His head did not seem to be in the right place in the first half, but was more focussed in the second half, I thought because he may have had a bolloking at half time but it may have been because he was attacking away from the large Rovers contingent. His header did indeed cross the line and I saw the lino give the goal before Papa put it away. Reminded me of BT - he always played below par for Sheff Utd against us and mysteriously went ill the day we beat them to stay up a couple of years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Give it to Ron Posted 30 September, 2009 Share Posted 30 September, 2009 He slipped Lallana through for the first goal, and hit the bar for the second. The problem is he is feeding on scraps. His supply is the problem, get wingers who can get to the line and put a decent ball in, and you'll see the best of Lambert. Most of the time last night he was challenging for headers facing away from the goal because they were coming in from too deep. At last someone who knows what they are talking about....if you watch our crosses they come in from 25-40 yards out which gives the big lumps of centre halves plenty of time to see the cross coming. The second goal was a result of James actually getting to about 15 yards out which Lambert 'scored'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junior Mullet Posted 30 September, 2009 Share Posted 30 September, 2009 ...BTW I thought Rovers were very good yesterday - tactically spot on (including the way they cut off Kelvin's favoured distribution route to James and his backup of rolling the ball out before kicking - whcih they did from the outset) and they ran at our defenders with pace and skill time and time again - it is no wonder Lambert scored a hatfull with that calibre of player supplying him. Please take note Pardew. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
surrey1saint Posted 30 September, 2009 Share Posted 30 September, 2009 So a player makes 2 goals and is ****e...god there are some real cretins on this forum!!! He held the ball up and waited for support - he flicked headers into players paths and ran the line superbly. Jeesh I can't believe some of you ever go to watch a game. In a nutshell! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 30 September, 2009 Share Posted 30 September, 2009 ...he did play in Lallana for the opener and possibly got our 2nd/put it on a plate for Papa. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John B Posted 30 September, 2009 Share Posted 30 September, 2009 He slipped Lallana through for the first goal, and hit the bar for the second. The problem is he is feeding on scraps. His supply is the problem, get wingers who can get to the line and put a decent ball in, and you'll see the best of Lambert. Most of the time last night he was challenging for headers facing away from the goal because they were coming in from too deep. Lets hope he starts scoring regularly soon as we need his goals Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy_Porter Posted 30 September, 2009 Share Posted 30 September, 2009 I thought he had a good game. I don't understand the need to criticise our players at every oppurtunity, we had some **** poor performances last night and Lambert wasn't even close to being one of the worst. Kelvin Davis, Dean Hammond and Dan Harding where all a lot worse, I like the three of them as players and think they've been good for us this season but they didn't play well at all last night imo. Mellis can go back to Chelsea as well, has he done anything good for us this season? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 30 September, 2009 Author Share Posted 30 September, 2009 So a player makes 2 goals and is ****e...god there are some real cretins on this forum!!! He held the ball up and waited for support - he flicked headers into players paths and ran the line superbly. Jeesh I can't believe some of you ever go to watch a game. I wasn't there, hence asking a question of clarification about the posts I've been reading from people that were there which gave me the impression that his heart may not have been 100% in it. Yours cretinously, Trousers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 30 September, 2009 Author Share Posted 30 September, 2009 I don't understand the need to criticise our players at every oppurtunity Mellis can go back to Chelsea as well, has he done anything good for us this season? .. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 30 September, 2009 Author Share Posted 30 September, 2009 Did anyone actually watch Lambert before buying him or was it on reputation alone I suspect it was a bit of a rush job. But can't blame anyone for that as Pardew and Co didn't have a huge amount of time for indepth research. Given a proper pre-season and a decent scouting network I'm sure Pardew would have highlighted to Cortese that we also need to buy (or develop) the same supply chain that fed the Lambert goal machine last year. Perhaps my Paul McCartney/Beatles analogy wasn't too far off the mark afterall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Give it to Ron Posted 30 September, 2009 Share Posted 30 September, 2009 I wasn't there, hence asking a question of clarification about the posts I've been reading from people that were there which gave me the impression that his heart may not have been 100% in it. Yours cretinously, Trousers If you constantly get whacked in the back and no support from a pathetic ref..you just start to put yourself about but get penalised would you not look a bit ****ed off? He did as much as he could do in the circumstances given that he has very little support or quality ball to feed off. When he got one we scored. How anyone can question signing him(not aimed at you) is beyond belief but then again there are some who think we should of kept Wotte the equivalent of Captain John Smith of the Titanic almost relegated or sunk wherever he has been! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 30 September, 2009 Share Posted 30 September, 2009 I cant believe this thread.Lambert is an intelligent frontman and gave his all. His set up fopr lallana was superb and the second looks like was in before papa touched it home.If you need to criticise anyone for loacking interest it should be Saga, he looks a stomne overweight and did nothing when he came on.Hes useless and we need to offload him and get a decent partner in to help lambert Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 30 September, 2009 Share Posted 30 September, 2009 I thought he had a good game. I don't understand the need to criticise our players at every oppurtunity, we had some **** poor performances last night and Lambert wasn't even close to being one of the worst. Kelvin Davis, Dean Hammond and Dan Harding where all a lot worse, I like the three of them as players and think they've been good for us this season but they didn't play well at all last night imo. Mellis can go back to Chelsea as well, has he done anything good for us this season? Spot on. What i've seen with lambert over the weeks though, convinces me we're trying to play him the wrong way. He tries hsi hardest with the long ball, and wins a fair few - but IMo he's more effective on the ground, dropping deep, spraying the ball to the channels. If we want him to get goals...that's what we need to do. Perfectly illustrated for Papa's goal, he worked it to the right channel with a good ball, james crossed it in and he headed it against the bar Thats how we need to play him IMO. You can see with rovers setup last night how he scored so many goals last season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saints_is_the_south Posted 30 September, 2009 Share Posted 30 September, 2009 I assume we are talking about the same Lambert that provided the assist for the first goal & then actually did score the 2nd no? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legod Third Coming Posted 30 September, 2009 Share Posted 30 September, 2009 I assume we are talking about the same Lambert that provided the assist for the first goal & then actually did score the 2nd no? And had a blinding header a foot over the bar from a super James cross? Probably not him then eh... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
once_bitterne Posted 30 September, 2009 Share Posted 30 September, 2009 I did think the same when he side footed his shot at goal straight to the keeper rather than burying it. I took a Rovers supporting mate to the game and his opinion was that Lamber looked fitter than when he was at Rovers but was not in the game as much due to not being given any service at all from out wide. At Rovers he was the focus of all attacks and was given bucketloads of crosses to attack from their decent wingers. In fairness I wouldn't blame the lad if he was regretting the move. It seems he may have been dazzled by a nice shiny stadium. He has left a team with good wingers, at the top end of the table with a decent chance of gaining promotion and one of the best young managers in the English game, to a team with no wingers, a decent chance of relegation to the lowest level of league football and a manager still trading of two decent seasons a couple of clubs back in the rapidlly fading past..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 30 September, 2009 Share Posted 30 September, 2009 I did think the same when he side footed his shot at goal straight to the keeper rather than burying it. I took a Rovers supporting mate to the game and his opinion was that Lamber looked fitter than when he was at Rovers but was not in the game as much due to not being given any service at all from out wide. At Rovers he was the focus of all attacks and was given bucketloads of crosses to attack from their decent wingers. In fairness I wouldn't blame the lad if he was regretting the move. It seems he may have been dazzled by a nice shiny stadium. He has left a team with good wingers, at the top end of the table with a decent chance of gaining promotion and one of the best young managers in the English game, to a team with no wingers, a decent chance of relegation to the lowest level of league football and a manager still trading of two decent seasons a couple of clubs back in the rapidlly fading past..... Are you telling me it was lambert who missed the chance early in the second half. From the Northam i thought it was Lallana but then told it was morgan and now Lambert.IMO I would have expected him to slot it home and so will be surprised if it was him. If not it was a very bad miss by him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legod Third Coming Posted 30 September, 2009 Share Posted 30 September, 2009 Are you telling me it was lambert who missed the chance early in the second half. From the Northam i thought it was Lallana but then told it was morgan and now Lambert.IMO I would have expected him to slot it home and so will be surprised if it was him. If not it was a very bad miss by him Lallana and Morgan both missed sitters. Lambert did not. HTH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 30 September, 2009 Author Share Posted 30 September, 2009 I cant believe this thread Ok. Let me expalin it one more time.... 1) I wasn't at the game 2) I read some posts on here that gave me the impression his heart wasn't 100% on the game 3) I asked a question to ascertain whether I was getting the right or wrong impression And then people jump down your throat and accuse you slagging players off. http://www.mensa.org/ That'll teach me for thinking this was a discussion forum. Give me strength (oh Lord). p.s. FFS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 30 September, 2009 Share Posted 30 September, 2009 Thought he played well won most headers and slipped in lallana for a goal and scored himself Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St_Tel49 Posted 30 September, 2009 Share Posted 30 September, 2009 So a player makes 2 goals and is ****e...god there are some real cretins on this forum!!! He held the ball up and waited for support - he flicked headers into players paths and ran the line superbly. Jeesh I can't believe some of you ever go to watch a game. + 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 30 September, 2009 Share Posted 30 September, 2009 Ok. Let me expalin it one more time.... 1) I wasn't at the game 2) I read some posts on here that gave me the impression his heart wasn't 100% on the game 3) I asked a question to ascertain whether I was getting the right or wrong impression And then people jump down your throat and accuse you slagging players off. http://www.mensa.org/ That'll teach me for thinking this was a discussion forum. Give me strength (oh Lord). p.s. FFSTrousers, I put it wrong ,I meant some of the posters not neccessarily the originator.My fault. Lambert is not getting the service and I believe he needs anither who has the intelligence to link with him.He is a thinking centre forward and frankly if he flicks the ball on we dont have runners to take the chance to benifit. Saga is my most unfavourite player at present and when he came on we went from looking threatening to toothless. Lambert is a good player and when is harnessed with a better option up front will show his worth. Lallana was the best I have seen him for a long time but is not the answer alongside him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthamSteve Posted 30 September, 2009 Share Posted 30 September, 2009 I thought he looked better today than any other time this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedAndWhite91 Posted 30 September, 2009 Share Posted 30 September, 2009 I talked to some Rovers fans on the train and they said that in Lambert we have a quality player. I said that the thing is, the ball gets lumped up to him and he holds it up or knocks it down but there is no support there to take the ball. They said at Bristol the same thing happened but they had players around him to play off him. They also said for a while after he left they carried on doing it but their new strikers couldn't do what Lambert did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
modern matron Posted 30 September, 2009 Share Posted 30 September, 2009 Lets hope he starts scoring regularly soon as we need his goals He scored last night....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
modern matron Posted 30 September, 2009 Share Posted 30 September, 2009 Ok. Let me expalin it one more time.... 1) I wasn't at the game 2) I read some posts on here that gave me the impression his heart wasn't 100% on the game 3) I asked a question to ascertain whether I was getting the right or wrong impression And then people jump down your throat and accuse you slagging players off. http://www.mensa.org/ That'll teach me for thinking this was a discussion forum. Give me strength (oh Lord). p.s. FFS Why start a new thread if posted elsewhere? Totally ridiculous thread...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 30 September, 2009 Author Share Posted 30 September, 2009 Trousers, I put it wrong ,I meant some of the posters not neccessarily the originator.My fault. Lambert is not getting the service and I believe he needs anither who has the intelligence to link with him.He is a thinking centre forward and frankly if he flicks the ball on we dont have runners to take the chance to benifit. Saga is my most unfavourite player at present and when he came on we went from looking threatening to toothless. Lambert is a good player and when is harnessed with a better option up front will show his worth. Lallana was the best I have seen him for a long time but is not the answer alongside him. Cheers. Apologies for me getting the wrong end of the stick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John B Posted 30 September, 2009 Share Posted 30 September, 2009 (edited) He scored last night....... Sorry the BBC credited to Waigio After the break, Ndiaye Papa Waigo finished after Lambert's header came off the bar, but Jo Kuffour equalised after Carl Regan's purposeful run. Edited 30 September, 2009 by John B Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 30 September, 2009 Share Posted 30 September, 2009 Plenty of effort there if you ask me. Great first touch as usual, but he won less headers for two reasons - we played it on the deck a lot more, and when we did loft it, their centre back fouled him a fair bit. Thought he should have scored in the first half with the header, but great assists for AL and great goal (or assist) for the second. I thought he needed to get into the box a little more. But you could see he was trying to create that chance to shoot on the edge of the box, but there was never really that space he needed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 30 September, 2009 Author Share Posted 30 September, 2009 Why start a new thread if posted elsewhere? Totally ridiculous thread...... Sorry. Yes, you're right. Creating a whole new thread to highlight a query/topic that would otherwise have got lost in the depths of a post match thread is utter madness. I promse it won't happen again. Ever. This after all is the Internet and to treat it with such gay abandon is indeed a dreadful waste of everyone's time. I will even refrain from inserting a little winky man to underline my intent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Marco Posted 30 September, 2009 Share Posted 30 September, 2009 Are you telling me it was lambert who missed the chance early in the second half. From the Northam i thought it was Lallana but then told it was morgan and now Lambert.IMO I would have expected him to slot it home and so will be surprised if it was him. If not it was a very bad miss by him I'm pretty certain Lambert did that amazing little slip pass into Morgan and was him who then missed it, but to be fair their keeper made a good save to his right. Personally i thought Lambert played very well. He tried to keep the ball down and made some quality passes. He was not forward enough due to Waigo playing that role. That move he did where he was about 25 yards out and found i think James out on the right of the box was pass of the season so far, it caught out like 4 of their players. Just a pity the cross went out of play. Lambert won most things and majority of the time his pass went to a team mate. I would like to see us get more pace in to the flanks with players who can get forwards so he can stay up front rather then having to come back for it. So yeah he scored the goal as was clearly over the line and set up the other goal. He created a few chances most notibly that miss by Lallana i think when we were 2-1 up. I think judgements on him in this thread highlight the mixed views right now of some fans. Some will see good and some will see bad, game of opinions and all that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
modern matron Posted 30 September, 2009 Share Posted 30 September, 2009 Sorry. Yes, you're right. Creating a whole new thread to highlight a query/topic that would otherwise have got lost in the depths of a post match thread is utter madness. I promse it won't happen again. Ever. This after all is the Internet and to treat it with such gay abandon is indeed a dreadful waste of everyone's time. I will even refrain from inserting a little winky man to underline my intent. This hardly warranted a whole thread..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scummer Posted 30 September, 2009 Share Posted 30 September, 2009 He was not forward enough due to Waigo playing that role. I've got a funny feeling that's just the way Lambert plays. If you look at all the youtube vids of his goals when he played for Rovers, most of them are from a long way out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genk Posted 30 September, 2009 Share Posted 30 September, 2009 Set up both of our goals and his link up play was excellent. Thought he played very well. Missed a golden header in the first half too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ampersound Posted 30 September, 2009 Share Posted 30 September, 2009 We just aren't playing to his strengths yet. I thought he played well considering his lone striker role. He definitely scored and I'm truly gutted that it didn't count for him. Just look how dangerous Rovers were when they got to the bye line and got crosses in, thats what he is missing now at Saints. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy_Porter Posted 30 September, 2009 Share Posted 30 September, 2009 .. Mellis isn't our player... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 30 September, 2009 Share Posted 30 September, 2009 I'm reading reports on here that his heart didn't appear 'up for it' last night. Do people who were there get the feeling this was a pyschological thing because we were playing against his old team mates or was it just an off day that could easily have occurred against any team. A tad worrying if the former as would tend to suggest his heart is still with Rovers.... Echo report - man of match - due to high level of effort. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Um Bongo Posted 30 September, 2009 Share Posted 30 September, 2009 He scored and it's his goal. The ref confirmed that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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