Gemmel Posted 25 October, 2009 Share Posted 25 October, 2009 ... Add that to end of the title There are certain names that get bandied around on here that I never saw play and some of the posters on here talk about about them with such passion, you wish you had. From this forum (In the different caranations it has taken) Based on what others have written, I would love to have seen the three below and know I am missing loads, but these seem to be the ones they rave about the most Davies Syndenham Paine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rpb Posted 25 October, 2009 Share Posted 25 October, 2009 ... Add that to end of the title There are certain names that get bandied around on here that I never saw play and some of the posters on here talk about about them with such passion, you wish you had. From this forum (In the different caranations it has taken) Based on what others have written, I would love to have seen the three below and know I am missing loads, but these seem to be the ones they rave about the most Davies Syndenham Paine It's Sydenham but the thought was there... I think you got the main three but George O'Brien made a big contribution to the Div 3 and Div 2 days as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted 25 October, 2009 Share Posted 25 October, 2009 I remember Davies,Paine and Sydenham playing although they had past their peak by that stage (1969/70). Two forwards I do wish I'd seen as older relatives rave about them are Derek Reeves and George O'Brien. Charlie Wayman perhaps also deserves a mention. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bridge too far Posted 25 October, 2009 Share Posted 25 October, 2009 Huxford Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RonManager Posted 25 October, 2009 Share Posted 25 October, 2009 For a sense of context concerning those three, then the books Constant Paine, And Dell Diamond are very useful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Windmill Arm 2 Posted 25 October, 2009 Share Posted 25 October, 2009 CB FRY, sadoldgit was raving about him the other day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red&white56 Posted 25 October, 2009 Share Posted 25 October, 2009 I would liked to have seen Martin Chivers play (before he went off to Spuds). I only ever saw Terry Paine play once. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjii Posted 25 October, 2009 Share Posted 25 October, 2009 Todd, Paul, Almeida. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dellman Posted 25 October, 2009 Share Posted 25 October, 2009 Charlie Wayman was all the rage when I was a kid, I had an autograph book full of his signatures, when I got it for about the 40th time he said 'have I seen you before? ' He used to get to ground each day by a bus which stopped by the Dell, I could get him to sign just before school. He scored 5 against Leicester, he was about the size of Alan Ball but he was dynamic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
for_heaven's_Saint Posted 25 October, 2009 Share Posted 25 October, 2009 ... Add that to end of the title There are certain names that get bandied around on here that I never saw play and some of the posters on here talk about about them with such passion, you wish you had. From this forum (In the different caranations it has taken) Based on what others have written, I would love to have seen the three below and know I am missing loads, but these seem to be the ones they rave about the most Davies Syndenham Paine You can see all 3 of the afformentioned players in one game here: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=9024836154390592659&q=ron+davies# Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rpb Posted 25 October, 2009 Share Posted 25 October, 2009 CB FRY, sadoldgit was raving about him the other day. CB Fry also played for Pompey. Apparently he got a bit full of his own importance and eventually would only turn out for cup ties - hence the move down the road. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Landrew Posted 26 October, 2009 Share Posted 26 October, 2009 (edited) ... Add that to end of the title There are certain names that get bandied around on here that I never saw play and some of the posters on here talk about about them with such passion, you wish you had. From this forum (In the different caranations it has taken) Based on what others have written, I would love to have seen the three below and know I am missing loads, but these seem to be the ones they rave about the most Davies Sy[n]denham Paine Yeah, saw all three, at their peak. Syddo was super fast, sometimes brilliant, sometimes not. Inconsistent, tbh. But a legend all the same. Big Ron was the ultimate headerer of the ball, but only pretty good with his feet. Didn't have loads of pace, but was nearly always in the right place, and boy could he climb. He was the club hero, and when he didn't do well, people got disappointed with him. I hated that aspect of the crowd. He was doing his best. Some people didn't like Terry Paine. Even his admirers in the crowd didn't like him much. He was sneaky. He'd kick the ball away to cost the opposition time. He was arrogant. He was Ted's favourite. He was the Captain. Lots of the players weren't keen on Painer either. But he was brilliant, and most of the time he was brilliant. So he was almost predictably brilliant. But he wasn't a genius. That's MLT territory only. From that era, let me add Martin Chivers, who I wish I'd seen more often in a Saints shirt. He was superb for us, and pretty much the same for Spurs, when he left. That hurt. Derek Reeves, I never saw play and wish I had. A goal machine. I wish Tom Jenkins had been better. He had bags of potential, and it all pretty much came to nothing. Loved his mazy runs down the left wing. Loads of others before my time and during and I just can't single them out, right now. Edited 26 October, 2009 by St Landrew Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Landrew Posted 26 October, 2009 Share Posted 26 October, 2009 You can see all 3 of the afformentioned players in one game here: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=9024836154390592659&q=ron+davies# Wish Ron's interview with Jimmy Hill from the same Big Match programme was still available. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Micky Posted 26 October, 2009 Share Posted 26 October, 2009 Before I comment I would like Gemmel to define 'old git' as I really would not want to incriminate myself if at all possible...! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chocco boxo Posted 26 October, 2009 Share Posted 26 October, 2009 Jimmy Melia, Jimmy Gabriel and Len Stansbridge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRobbie Posted 26 October, 2009 Share Posted 26 October, 2009 CB Fry also played for Pompey. Apparently he got a bit full of his own importance and eventually would only turn out for cup ties - hence the move down the road. And was an England cricketer as well as football international. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trader Posted 26 October, 2009 Share Posted 26 October, 2009 Docker Walker - GBH in a Saints shirt Legend:D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fitzhugh Fella Posted 26 October, 2009 Share Posted 26 October, 2009 Docker Walker - GBH in a Saints shirt Legend:D and all his alehouse mates Hollywood, McGrath, O'Neil, Gabriel - you woulld not want to mess! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAR Boy Saint Posted 26 October, 2009 Share Posted 26 October, 2009 You can see all 3 of the afformentioned players in one game here: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=9024836154390592659&q=ron+davies# Nice to see Saints playing with a bit of width! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david in sweden Posted 26 October, 2009 Share Posted 26 October, 2009 ... Add that to end of the title There are certain names that get bandied around on here that I never saw play and some of the posters on here talk about about them with such passion, you wish you had. From this forum (In the different caranations it has taken) Based on what others have written, I would love to have seen the three below and know I am missing loads, but these seem to be the ones they rave about the most Davies Syndenham Paine There is an old ITV Sport insert on YOU TUBE of the famous 4-1 win v. Man Utd. at Old Trafford in August 1969. It's BW and not good quality, but you can see all three in this legendary win. You might recognise a few names in the Man Utd side, like Charlton and Best. Sadly there is very little archive material from this period, but they are all a joy to watch. George O'Brien was also a great favourite in the early 1960's Quite the laziest-looking player I ever saw who didn't like to chase the ball for more than 10 yards, but could score in themud from almost anywhere; 35 yarders, penalties, " roll-ins," left or right foot - didn't matter to George. In 6½ seasons he netted; 23,22,28,22,16,32 and 11 league goals... and a couple dozen more in various cup games. Great days! Yes, you would have enjoyed it - believe me! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mesaint Posted 26 October, 2009 Share Posted 26 October, 2009 Can't believe nobody has mentioned Mick Channon! Ron Davies was my hero as a lad but Mick was Just brilliant! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadoldgit Posted 26 October, 2009 Share Posted 26 October, 2009 Chivers was excellent but alas off not too long after I started supporting Saints. But no worries as Davies and Paine were awesome. Without doubt Ron Davies was the best "old fashioned" centre forward of that generation. I think he cost something like £60k from Norwich and Ted Bates signed the bargain of the decade. Paine too was excellent at his craft and one of the last old fashioned wingers. Sadly for football in the long run, Ramset won the World Cup without wingers, relying on overlapping full backs, and their day was numbered after that. Gradually more teams adpoted different formations and the days of two wide men plying their trade hugging the wings were over. Still we had Mike Channon to come and from an early age, despite being gangly and often falling over his own feet, you could tell he would go on to great things. Then Steve Williams of course. So good to see such rich home grown talent come through the ranks. As with music, I think we always remember our first exposure to it as something special and probably look back on a specific time in our lives with rose timted specs. But every time the ball was crossed from either wing you held your breath with anticipation of another great header from Ron hitting the back of the net. Top scorer in the old first divsion for three years running, would score you 30+ goals a season, what price now? A littl later of course we had the mecurial talents of MLT to drool over. For a relativelt small club we have been fortunate to have some great talent play the club. The Wallaces, Frank Worthington, David Armstrong, the European Footballer of the Year for a couple of seasons, etc etc. We have lacked their class for a large number of seasons now but we can only live in hope that we shall see such players here again some day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint137 Posted 26 October, 2009 Share Posted 26 October, 2009 Define old - for me it was Channon, Williams, Danny Wallace, Moran, and Phil Boyer (mainly because he was top scorer in Div 1 one season) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beatlesaint Posted 26 October, 2009 Share Posted 26 October, 2009 Define old - for me it was Channon, Williams, Danny Wallace, Moran, and Phil Boyer (mainly because he was top scorer in Div 1 one season) Thats not old, I remember watching all of them Old must be before 1970....surely ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Third Division South Days Posted 26 October, 2009 Share Posted 26 October, 2009 Happy memories. The link between Reeves. O'Brien, Davies, Chivers and Channon was Terry Paine. He would top any stats list for assists. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ottery st mary Posted 26 October, 2009 Share Posted 26 October, 2009 I grew up watching the likes of Traynor, Page, Huxford (later played alongside him at B'stoke) Wimshurst, O'Brien, Reeves, Kirby, Sydenham, Paine. It was a very good TEAM but my favourites were Paine and syd for their wing play/craft and the difference they bought to the side......Paine was always CLASS. Hard men, Kirby, Hollywood, McGrath, Walker, Gabriel, O'Neill....But for me Huxford and Traynor were two of the hardest footballers I ever watched. COYRs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victor Posted 26 October, 2009 Share Posted 26 October, 2009 And was an England cricketer as well as football international. Captained the England and Sussex cricket teams, played cricket for Hampshire, held the world long jump record, invented Diabolo, was offered the crown of Albania, could stand with his back to the fire and jump onto the mantelpiece, played rugby for Oxford University and Barbarians, started the TS nautical schools becoming a captain in the Royal Navy Reserve, stood (unsuccessfully) as an MP etc. etc. Bit of an all-round show-off really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 26 October, 2009 Share Posted 26 October, 2009 Tony Funnell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martyg1950 Posted 26 October, 2009 Share Posted 26 October, 2009 Phil Boyer, true 90 minute player, hardly ever mentioned these days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dronskisaint Posted 26 October, 2009 Share Posted 26 October, 2009 Phil Boyer, true 90 minute player, hardly ever mentioned these days. Phil Boy-er, Phil Boy-er...first division's top scor-er... We used to sing...! I remember a 4-1 win against Forest at The Dell, can't remember which year but they were a top side with Clough in his heyday years with Shilton in goal (so pre our era with him). We were magical - I can't think how many Boyer scored & am too lazy/thick to look it up but I think it was two or three. Bally was magnificent setting up perfectly weighted through balls & making one of Europe's top sides look very ordinary. Can also remember Chivers, Sydenham, Big Ron (£55k)...we did well out of Norwich for VFM forwards with Ted 'score with my ass, knee, elbow, anything' McDougall as well, Tory Paine as we called him then...never seemed to have a bad game & as he slowed up became masterful at planting Hoddle-like passes over 40-50 yards from midfield. I loved Brian O'Neill for his commitment...Gerry O'Brien - remember him? Micky Channon in full flight was guaranteed to raise the sound level in the ground, Jim Steele...never knew when he was beaten no matter how ****ed, David Peach...Denis Hollywood, Tony Knapp & John McGrath - now they were real frighteners...Jimmy Gabriel...I remember him scoring with a rocket bicycle kick but can't remember who against...? I can go on but think I've qualified myself for old gitdom...I remember the old gits from my era who used to fo on about Huxford etc. Amazing how players come & go but loyalty & fanaticism is constant...I still get as big a buzz now when the team takes the pitch - or did I not grow up at all? If so f*ck the old git description! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victor Posted 26 October, 2009 Share Posted 26 October, 2009 Tony Funnell I'm an old git and I don't talk about him much, certainly don't rave about him. His name comes up occasionally in conversation with my sons - he presented cups to them when they played in the Tyro league - but mention his name here in his home town of Eastbourne and you will be met with blank stares. His goals were important in the promotion season but I think he has a cult following of one, Alps! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cricketphilly Posted 26 October, 2009 Share Posted 26 October, 2009 Loved and still miss Ossie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mickn Posted 26 October, 2009 Share Posted 26 October, 2009 Phil Boy-er, Phil Boy-er...first division's top scor-er... We used to sing...! I remember a 4-1 win against Forest at The Dell, can't remember which year but they were a top side with Clough in his heyday years with Shilton in goal (so pre our era with him). We were magical - I can't think how many Boyer scored & am too lazy/thick to look it up but I think it was two or three. Bally was magnificent setting up perfectly weighted through balls & making one of Europe's top sides look very ordinary. Can also remember Chivers, Sydenham, Big Ron (£55k)...we did well out of Norwich for VFM forwards with Ted 'score with my ass, knee, elbow, anything' McDougall as well, Tory Paine as we called him then...never seemed to have a bad game & as he slowed up became masterful at planting Hoddle-like passes over 40-50 yards from midfield. I loved Brian O'Neill for his commitment...Gerry O'Brien - remember him? Micky Channon in full flight was guaranteed to raise the sound level in the ground, Jim Steele...never knew when he was beaten no matter how ****ed, David Peach...Denis Hollywood, Tony Knapp & John McGrath - now they were real frighteners...Jimmy Gabriel...I remember him scoring with a rocket bicycle kick but can't remember who against...? I can go on but think I've qualified myself for old gitdom...I remember the old gits from my era who used to fo on about Huxford etc. Amazing how players come & go but loyalty & fanaticism is constant...I still get as big a buzz now when the team takes the pitch - or did I not grow up at all? If so f*ck the old git description! Pretty sure the Jimmy Gabriel goal was against Huddersfield at home, we were 3 down and he scored a late consolation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carljack Posted 26 October, 2009 Share Posted 26 October, 2009 CB FRY, sadoldgit was raving about him the other day. He must have been some Player he scored Eight consecutive international centurys only WG Grace and M Proctor managed the same feat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lets B Avenue Posted 26 October, 2009 Share Posted 26 October, 2009 Ivan Golac. Long live the "Tito Volley". Often overlooked, but as important in the Ball/Channon/Williams supply line for Boyer/Moran/Keegan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nutwood2 Posted 26 October, 2009 Share Posted 26 October, 2009 What a great read all of the above are. Docker Walker eh? Remember the opening titles to ' Match of the Day' when he polaxes Billy Bonds. Wouldn't be allowed on tele nowadays. Fred Kemp still rules! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rattlehead Posted 26 October, 2009 Share Posted 26 October, 2009 CB FRY Now a good, if occasionally angry, poster as well IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wightman35 Posted 26 October, 2009 Share Posted 26 October, 2009 Many happy memories revived by the above posts of players. I did not see many (any) goalies mentioned, yet we have had some magnificent ones over the years. I always liked watching Ian Black. Believe he went to Fulham later. Some of our defenders were mighty in the old second division; Bill Ellerington, Eric Webber and Bill Rochford (Captain and left back-dodgy previous club?) were some that deserve a mention. Charlie Wayman had a cafe near Civic Centre and the Bus Station, so we used to stop off on way to Dell from the Royal Pier and the IW ferry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 26 October, 2009 Share Posted 26 October, 2009 I wish Tom Jenkins had been better. He had bags of potential, and it all pretty much came to nothing. Loved his mazy runs down the left wing. . My first away game was an ight one away at WHU. Tommy Jenkins scored one of the best goals I ever saw. He seemed to dribble the ball around the whole team before slotting it home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stubby Posted 26 October, 2009 Share Posted 26 October, 2009 Eric Martin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lets B Avenue Posted 26 October, 2009 Share Posted 26 October, 2009 My first away game was an ight one away at WHU. Tommy Jenkins scored one of the best goals I ever saw. He seemed to dribble the ball around the whole team before slotting it home. Including Bobby Moore. Twice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toomer Posted 26 October, 2009 Share Posted 26 October, 2009 Apart from some mentioned, one my all time favourite players would be John (Big Jake) McGrath. I see Derek Reeves is mentioned in one post, my first game was 9th October 1959 we played Swindon and won 6-2 and he scored 4, if I am wrong in any of the details I'm sure FF will put me right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 26 October, 2009 Share Posted 26 October, 2009 Including Bobby Moore. Twice. Im glad my mind was not playing tricks.It was a long time ago now but what a goal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint 76er Posted 26 October, 2009 Share Posted 26 October, 2009 Eric Martin Eric was a legend in his day, a bit erratic but a great shot stopper and the fans loved him. Now, true story, a mate and I went to watch Saints reserves play a pre season friendly at Guildford City one time, and after the game we were talking to Eric in the players race alongside the main stand. Mick Channon had been injured with a nasty leg gash and Eric was telling us about it. Next thing was an almighty crash and rending of wood and glass on concrete as one of the side window panels on the stand simply fell out and crashed down only a few yards from where we were standing. Remarkably nothing dangerous showered over us but we stood in stunned silence for a few moments whilst all of us were clearly replaying in our heads the awful consequences had we been holding our conversation just a small distance away. With a collective shake of the head we simply turned away from the carnage and resumed our discussions as if nothing had ever happened... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toomer Posted 26 October, 2009 Share Posted 26 October, 2009 (edited) Including Bobby Moore. Twice. Talking of Bobby Moore anyone else remember when he cleared the ball hit the ref and knocked him out picked up and blew the whistle and stopped the game. Also Eric (Cinders) Martin came for a cross foot raised and took Jeff Astle out of W.B.A. Edited 26 October, 2009 by Toomer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestSaint Posted 26 October, 2009 Share Posted 26 October, 2009 John Mcgrath - rumour has it he was kept in a cage and fed raw meat before let out each game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
70's Mike Posted 26 October, 2009 Share Posted 26 October, 2009 This old git talks about the old days and players all the time,until my 2 sons tell me to come in to the real world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gaz Posted 26 October, 2009 Share Posted 26 October, 2009 Kevin Keegan, and Alan Shearer. Yes, I'm young. You're all old farts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toomer Posted 26 October, 2009 Share Posted 26 October, 2009 This old git talks about the old days and players all the time' date='until my 2 sons tell me to come in to the real world.[/quote'] Not only players Mike, but when we stood on The Milton and could sing more than just three songs (I do not count Anti Pompey chants and player name chants as songs). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 26 October, 2009 Share Posted 26 October, 2009 Not only players Mike, but when we stood on The Milton and could sing more than just three songs (I do not count Anti Pompey chants and player name chants as songs).that brings me to my current pet theme of having one end singing the team to victory.Many have ridiculed my thought that having a kop end and the players kicking to their fans does have an influence.Souness (hardly a softie) Jamie Redknapp and Coppell all thought that kicking to the Kop second half would make a difference for Liverpool against Man u Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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