Ponty Posted 15 November, 2009 Share Posted 15 November, 2009 All the angst here, please. If anyone can be positive I'd appreciate it, thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaptopSaint Posted 15 November, 2009 Share Posted 15 November, 2009 Sorry, can't. What a load of ****e. Players believed their own propaganda. Back to the training ground, and make em work ****ing hard Pards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 15 November, 2009 Share Posted 15 November, 2009 Maybe Trotman wont be so big a loss as we fear when he goes back. Positive enough ? Best I can do, I am afraid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgerx16 Posted 15 November, 2009 Share Posted 15 November, 2009 All the angst here, please. If anyone can be positive I'd appreciate it, thanks. I'm POSITIVE that's our worst home display this season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 15 November, 2009 Share Posted 15 November, 2009 Still, at least we're still in the Paint Pot trophy.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjii Posted 15 November, 2009 Share Posted 15 November, 2009 Completely pedestrian in defence and lazy on the ball. We usually have enough touches of quality to win playing like that but this has been a lesson that we need to improve our patterns of play if we're going to make the play-offs! (We aren't going to make the play-offs). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ponty Posted 15 November, 2009 Author Share Posted 15 November, 2009 I'm POSITIVE that's our worst home display this season If it turns out to be so, I'll take that. Cheers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintNeil90 Posted 15 November, 2009 Share Posted 15 November, 2009 They didnt turn up today! Not one of those players can say they played with any passion or desire to win! This winning mentality has made them overconfident and too big for their boots. We will NOT make the play offs this year FACT. I know people will say 'oh but its only 1 game!'. Its a game that if you want to make the play offs you dont lose and dont play that badly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gaz Posted 15 November, 2009 Share Posted 15 November, 2009 It was cross-cross-cross-cross all evening. If there's no-one on the end or no-one who can get it on target to test the keeper, then change it up. What happened to the free-flowing, passing footy of Wednesday night? And at the back, we were too slow and out of position too many times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View From The Top Posted 15 November, 2009 Share Posted 15 November, 2009 As predicted and we were due. We'll know how good we are come 16.45 Saturday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gjphilsaint Posted 15 November, 2009 Share Posted 15 November, 2009 not the same brand of football as midweek..... hoofed and punted.... CBs were dire in first 30mins which lost us the game.... midfield lacked urgency.... forwards didnt really move about much. V poor show today .. apart from Lallana who consistently tried to gather the ball na dd distribute..... poor...poor ..poor... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 15 November, 2009 Share Posted 15 November, 2009 Someone convince me that putting out more or less the same team twice in one week when we didn't need to is concentrating 100% on getting out of this league Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View From The Top Posted 15 November, 2009 Share Posted 15 November, 2009 Oh, and 4-5-1 works, not 4-4-2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjii Posted 15 November, 2009 Share Posted 15 November, 2009 It was cross-cross-cross-cross all evening. If there's no-one on the end or no-one who can get it on target to test the keeper, then change it up. What happened to the free-flowing, passing footy of Wednesday night? And at the back, we were too slow and out of position too many times. As I said at the time, we were pretty poor on Wednesday too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DT Posted 15 November, 2009 Share Posted 15 November, 2009 very poor defensively, obviously poor in terms of management/tactics/preventing us from having a superiority complex, but hey - you have to give credit. They. Deserved. To. Win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint_jas Posted 15 November, 2009 Share Posted 15 November, 2009 Absolute garbage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legod Third Coming Posted 15 November, 2009 Share Posted 15 November, 2009 Who asked for us to play 4-4-2? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnsey Posted 15 November, 2009 Share Posted 15 November, 2009 Over to you pards we might just have been found out a bit now. Positive we will come back stronger COYR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leicestersaint Posted 15 November, 2009 Share Posted 15 November, 2009 Well I never thought we would score and thought they were always likely to score. I thought we were generally complacent, too big for our boots, and fairly clueless. Too many of our players were thoroughly anonymous and out of sorts - eg Hammond. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcjwills Posted 15 November, 2009 Share Posted 15 November, 2009 Typical we had a chance to get off bottom of the league & we fooked it up at first attempt, now we have a chance to get out of the relegation zone and at our first attempt we fooked it up. Hopefully a good rollicking from Pards & extra training will sort it out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SW11_Saint Posted 15 November, 2009 Share Posted 15 November, 2009 Bad day at the office... put it down to that (and Lambert having flu or whatever he has) and move on. Brighton deserved it - quicker around the pitch, more tenacious in the tackle and some class finishing. At least it will stop us fans (and hopefully players) getting complacent - lots of "5-0" predictions out there... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruffo Posted 15 November, 2009 Share Posted 15 November, 2009 at least this wake up will keep our players from thinking they could walk this league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monkadill Posted 15 November, 2009 Share Posted 15 November, 2009 Come on now, i joined the game when we were 0-2 down. The game was totaly dominated by us and we played good, attcking posotive football. When ur 1-2 down a third goal on the break come's in it is going to punish us. But we battle'd , played good football. When Papa came on he showed some good flashes of skill, maybe he should have come on earlier. Still, we one our last game with the team put out. Up the Saints, a minor blip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmonton Saint Posted 15 November, 2009 Share Posted 15 November, 2009 Awful in defence today. Jaidi looked disinterested, trotman was poor, james put in some good balls but was suspect at the back. In the league we have been playing well with just the one up front, so perhaps today wasn't the day to play 4-4-2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgerx16 Posted 15 November, 2009 Share Posted 15 November, 2009 I think it shows how important a FIT Ricky Lambert is, as the cover isn't good enough to play in place of a half-fit one. And I think the gamble on Ricky is probably what cost us, as we didn't have any spark up front, making their CBs look better than they are, plus a normally questionable keeper decides he needs to impress his new boss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SW11_Saint Posted 15 November, 2009 Share Posted 15 November, 2009 Someone convince me that putting out more or less the same team twice in one week when we didn't need to is concentrating 100% on getting out of this league You mean staying in this league, surely? That's the primary objective... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 15 November, 2009 Share Posted 15 November, 2009 Over to you pards we might just have been found out a bit now. Positive we will come back stronger COYR Steady on, you will get a lot of sh*t for having the temerity to write that !!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaptopSaint Posted 15 November, 2009 Share Posted 15 November, 2009 At least we won't underestimate Norwich. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperMikey Posted 15 November, 2009 Share Posted 15 November, 2009 Only good player out there today was Lallana, Antonio looked dangerous in the first half but petered out in the second half. Lloyd James put some good crosses in, but nobody attacked them, and his free-kicks and corners were p*ss poor. The team really need a huge kick up the ar5e after today, we were completely abysmal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Landrew Posted 15 November, 2009 Share Posted 15 November, 2009 That was poor. Over confident, and actually flat-footed too. Apart from the penalty, Lambert was invisible. Lallana got into quite a few positions ahead of Ricky and missed the chances. Brighton came with a clean sheet as far as the players were concerned, and played as such. They believed and showed confidence. Well done to them. There's my positive bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elmore Posted 15 November, 2009 Share Posted 15 November, 2009 Utter sh*te from Saints. Brighton got their tactics right and have a good 'keeper - that was enough for them to beat us at home. As a team Brighton defended against us with ease all match. Pretty shocking to be honest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintJackoInHurworth Posted 15 November, 2009 Share Posted 15 November, 2009 There were some positives... Antonio was pretty threatening down the wing and his throw-ins scared them every time! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 15 November, 2009 Share Posted 15 November, 2009 You mean staying in this league, surely? That's the primary objective... No it isn't. There is absolutely zero chance of us being relegated. Zero chance. It's whether or not we make the play offs, and to be honest it's a long old slog but still possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.comsaint Posted 15 November, 2009 Share Posted 15 November, 2009 Fair play to Brighton - they came & did a job and were worthy winners. We appeared to have the attitiude of "Oh it's only lowly Brighton" and spent the first 45 mins in first gear. Far far too many hopeful balls lobbed into the box all game. Back to the drawing board Pards... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monkadill Posted 15 November, 2009 Share Posted 15 November, 2009 Now all the "glass half empty's" will have a field day after our first defeat in how many games..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilko Posted 15 November, 2009 Share Posted 15 November, 2009 I have no idea how we didn't win. Our attackers' positioning was pretty poor, especially from set-pieces. Antonio was good in the first half but ineffective when they doubled up on him in the second. Our midfield was completely missing in the first 30 minutes. Trotman played like a drunk. Lambert looked knackered from the first minute. Brighton played very well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monkadill Posted 15 November, 2009 Share Posted 15 November, 2009 Utter sh*te from Saints. Brighton got their tactics right and have a good 'keeper - that was enough for them to beat us at home. As a team Brighton defended against us with ease all match. Pretty shocking to be honest. Did you watch the game? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legod Third Coming Posted 15 November, 2009 Share Posted 15 November, 2009 They worked out that Trottman and Jaidi are not the quickest and to be fair Brighton's movement up front was exceptional. But all three goals would have been stopped by a defender doing what it says in the first line of every fecking training manual - STAYING GOAL SIDE... This was a lesson in complacency. Pardew even warned of it against Charlton. Too many fancy dan performances I'm afraid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 15 November, 2009 Share Posted 15 November, 2009 You mean staying in this league, surely? That's the primary objective... Either way, I think Pardew needs to seriously rethink his cup vs league strategy. Just a humble opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monkadill Posted 15 November, 2009 Share Posted 15 November, 2009 Fair play Brighton my @rse... We dominated and just didn't get the break. Credit to there keeper, credit to them scoring whilst we slept at the back. But look at the whole 90 minutes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waggy Posted 15 November, 2009 Share Posted 15 November, 2009 at least this wake up will keep our players from thinking they could walk this league. I don't think that has ever been the case, game plan for this season was to avoid relegation and consolidate our position, the play-offs were aspirational. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjii Posted 15 November, 2009 Share Posted 15 November, 2009 Let's do some ratings Saints fans: KD 5 - Could have done better with second. Good save in the second half. James 6 - Our best attacking threat!! Jaidi 2 - Looked like he couldn't be bothered. Trotman 3 - Rusty. Thomas 5 - Ok but please don't try to pass it forward; give it to Lloyd. Harding 5 - Caught out for the first goal a bit but generally had a decent game. Hammond 4 - Missed a sitter. Didn't hurt the opposition at all. Schneiderlin 3 - Mostly pointless. Lallana 6 - Used the ball well on the rare occasions we strung more than 2 passes together. Antonio 6 - Did well in the first half. Good throws. Lambert 5 - Good pen. Poor game. Connolly 5 - Not really his fault due to lack of service but never looked likely to anything. Waigo - 6 Did well. I would have him in the team. Mills - dunno. Didn't really notice him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leicestersaint Posted 15 November, 2009 Share Posted 15 November, 2009 Did you watch the game? Did you?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aintforever Posted 15 November, 2009 Share Posted 15 November, 2009 Fed up with seeing Scheiderlin poncing about in front of the back 4, it's like playing with 5 at the back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Under Weststand Posted 15 November, 2009 Share Posted 15 November, 2009 Well what can you say to that, defensively we haven't got it right James is no right back, & Trotman & Jaidi you would think they'd never played together before. Think we turned up believing the hype that all we had to do was turn up. Also missed a hat full of clear cut chances. Their Keeper made a few great saves as well. just a dissapointing day all round, and at least 2 games now to get out of the relegation zone. They also forgot to play football & got dragged into playing long ball. This is a real kick up the backside, and a wake up call to AP and the players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red and White Russ Posted 15 November, 2009 Share Posted 15 November, 2009 Fair play Brighton my @rse... We dominated and just didn't get the break. Credit to there keeper, credit to them scoring whilst we slept at the back. But look at the whole 90 minutes. You sound like a Man Utd fan, Other team deserved the win, we were p**s poor. We need to bounce back on Saturday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minsk Posted 15 November, 2009 Share Posted 15 November, 2009 Maybe Trotman wont be so big a loss as we fear when he goes back. Positive enough ? Best I can do, I am afraid. Unsurprisingly, you failed to answer my question as to the sub(s) you would have made. Yep, B&HA did us a kipper, no arguements there. And I honestly believe they deserved their win. A bad day at the office for too many players. with any luck they have now learnt their lesson and will go on a run better than the one which has just finished. I am very dissapointed and frustrated. This match has further enhanced my belief that this season is about restructuring and that we will finish just above mid-table come the end of the season. P.S. I also think that we will move out of the relegation places, for the final time this season, at the Tranmere game! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjii Posted 15 November, 2009 Share Posted 15 November, 2009 Fair play Brighton my @rse... We dominated and just didn't get the break. Credit to there keeper, credit to them scoring whilst we slept at the back. But look at the whole 90 minutes. We were crap mate. Granted we missed some chances but we need to play better than this with the ball and our defending was pants. Brighton did what most away teams at SMS will try to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suewhistle Posted 15 November, 2009 Share Posted 15 November, 2009 Lambert appeared to be struggling, a bit under the weather, although that might have been my internet stream freezing.... I had a horrible feeling beforehand that me watching Saints live would continue a 3 year tradition of not seeing them win. James' crossing is accurate enough but from far too deep, our defence was generally slow both mentally and physically. Lallana and Schneiderlin were OK, but I wish the latter could shoot. Antonio still seems to be an impact sub as he was definitely hiding before he got taken off (rightly IMHO). Oh well, let's hope they've got it out of their system and AP will make sure they learn from the experience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.comsaint Posted 15 November, 2009 Share Posted 15 November, 2009 Fair play Brighton my @rse... We dominated and just didn't get the break. Credit to there keeper, credit to them scoring whilst we slept at the back. But look at the whole 90 minutes. They scored 3 times; hit the post; Kelvin made a stunning save midway through the 2nd half; they should have had a 1st half penalty in all honesty; so fair play to Brighton it pains me to say... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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