Arizona Posted 29 November, 2009 Share Posted 29 November, 2009 The League, the FA Cup, The JPT? There are strong cases for and against both IMO. The League For - There is still a chance of promotion and we don't want to get stuck in a relegation battle. Against - Both promotion and relegation are highly unlikely. In all likely hood we wont have anything to play for come the end of the season. The FA Cup For - A big competition, big financial rewards in the latter rounds and the chance to play some of the big Prem sides. Against - We will inevitably come accross teams in higher leagues if we progress and we're unlikely to beat most of them. Winning it is also near impossible. JPT For - The chance of a day out or two at Wembley and some silverwear. Against - Not a very glamourous, exciting or important competition. I would probably say the JPT. It would be nice to win something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 29 November, 2009 Share Posted 29 November, 2009 JPT for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nexstar Posted 29 November, 2009 Share Posted 29 November, 2009 JPT unless we hit a very good or bad run of form, then the league should take priority. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big_Bald_Si Posted 29 November, 2009 Share Posted 29 November, 2009 As long as we finish mid-table comfortably, then definitely the JPT - would love a day out to Wembley to see the boys in action! Plus, I've got a £20 bet on with my Arsenal supporting mate that Saints would win more silverware this season than them - the JPT is my only hope! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 29 November, 2009 Share Posted 29 November, 2009 League is priority - we have a good enough team to go up this year! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WealdSaint Posted 29 November, 2009 Share Posted 29 November, 2009 By FA Cup 3rd Round promotion may be beyond us. I hope not of course. Carry on pushing for all 3 at the moment i guess Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Secret Site Agent Posted 29 November, 2009 Share Posted 29 November, 2009 I like the idea that we woulb be in place that, if we didn't have the -10 points, would show that we would have got promotion. Sort of like a vindication Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 29 November, 2009 Share Posted 29 November, 2009 By FA Cup 3rd Round promotion may be beyond us. I hope not of course. Carry on pushing for all 3 at the moment i guess Doing the Treble? I like the sound of that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joesaint Posted 29 November, 2009 Share Posted 29 November, 2009 Not really sure AP has a priority in the sence he is taking everything serously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedAndWhite91 Posted 29 November, 2009 Share Posted 29 November, 2009 Haven't voted yet - I'll reserve judgement. Whilst I'd settle for mid-table this season, we can still push for the play-offs and in that sense there's no reason why we can't go up. Howeverrr, we got a real chance of getting to a Wembley final... So I'll go with JPT now as mid-table in the League looks likely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRobbie Posted 29 November, 2009 Share Posted 29 November, 2009 JPT... most realistic chance of a Wembley win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the saint in winchester Posted 29 November, 2009 Share Posted 29 November, 2009 I voted JPT. Daft, I know but it's winnable for us. We need something to replace that sword in the trophy cabinet, and a piece of silverware would be a boost. So, I'd go for winning the JPT and midtable safety in the League 1. Obviously, safety is No1 priority. If we could be guaranteed promotion that would outrank JPT, but that looks unlikely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TijuanaTim Posted 29 November, 2009 Share Posted 29 November, 2009 Out of the three it always has to be the league. However, have to say this season's top priorities should be to positive and enjoyable experiences, whilst embracing a 'winning' mentality...in other words, winning - the right way - having fun doing it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 29 November, 2009 Share Posted 29 November, 2009 it has to be the league....If we cant go up this year I want us to be in red hot form as much as possible..I want winning league games becoming the norm for long periods.. how negative that some have given up on the league already go and have a word with yourselves you negative ****s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marsdinho Posted 29 November, 2009 Share Posted 29 November, 2009 Our long term plan is to get back in the Prem. That being the case, our number one priority should be the league. Any other success on the way is a brucie bonus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_Jonny Posted 29 November, 2009 Share Posted 29 November, 2009 since we are destined to stay up, almost certainly, i'd say the jpt, as its highly winnable from out current posistion. I cant see the play offs happening in a million years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slickmick Posted 29 November, 2009 Share Posted 29 November, 2009 Cant believe ..those who would rather win the JPT instead of promotion. :confused::confused:00 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harwellsaint Posted 29 November, 2009 Share Posted 29 November, 2009 all of them global domination is imminent! utfs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arizona Posted 29 November, 2009 Author Share Posted 29 November, 2009 Cant believe ..those who would rather win the JPT instead of promotion. :confused::confused:00 That's not really the question I was posing. My point is that, whilst possible, promotion is a very long shot. We started the league 10 points away already. We're now 5 games away from the halfway point and 13 points away from 6th spot. We are going to have to overtake 15 teams just to make the playoffs. That involveds winning 5 games more than the top teams already contending for those spots. Realistically we have a much higher chance of winning the JPT than getting promoted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legod Third Coming Posted 29 November, 2009 Share Posted 29 November, 2009 Where is the 'all of the above option'? There is no dichotomy between competitions. You either win matches, draw them or lose them. Winning in one competition does not mean you need to lose in another, unless you are a bullsh!t manager who believes in cliches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pugwash Posted 29 November, 2009 Share Posted 29 November, 2009 JPT. Final is in -what - March? Winnable and could give us the impetus to push for the playoffs in the run-in, assuming we're mid-table by then, of course... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suewhistle Posted 29 November, 2009 Share Posted 29 November, 2009 My vote is to see them win! Haven't seen them win in over 3 years now, since I moved here and my visits home at the start of the season and at Christmas have been disastrous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tractor_Saint Posted 29 November, 2009 Share Posted 29 November, 2009 JPT unless we hit a very good or bad run of form, then the league should take priority. So, that's the league vote then? Really thought this was a stupid poll when I first read it. Re-reading, still agree, stupid vote. How could anyone vote that the JPT or FA cup is more important than the league ? Am I going mad? What do you think is APs number one priority for this year? I think it's very blinkered to say that promotion or relegation is 'highly unlikely'. Will get back in my box though before someone points me in it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
astrasri Posted 29 November, 2009 Share Posted 29 November, 2009 Long term, Short term or mid term priorities are quite simply to focus on winning the next game. Liverpool have come unstuck by trying to focus more on Europe than the premiership and the old adage of 1 game at time still works. Pick the strongest team that you need (not necessarily the strongest that you have) for each game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintBobby Posted 29 November, 2009 Share Posted 29 November, 2009 I voted for the JPT. I honestly think we're unlikley to get promoted in the League. We may well make the play-offs, but would be odds against going up even then. In thirty years of supporting Saints, I've never seen us win anything. Of course, I want us to get promoted. But in my imagination, we beat Leeds at Wembley to win the JPT in the Spring and then win League One in 2011 with c. 110 points. I think I'd prefer that to winning this year's play off final against Huddersfield and getting knocked out by Norwich in the JPT. Madness? Maybe. The real lunacy is that some people think the FA Cup is the priority! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jam Posted 29 November, 2009 Share Posted 29 November, 2009 League for me, until we have no chance of getting promotion. In fact even if promotion becomes impossible I want us to be winning every league game we play so that next season the players know that they can beat anyone in the division and any team that plays us know they are going to be in for a hell of a game. I see the JPT as a bit of a bonus and a chance for a nice day out if we get to the final. We're in the competition on merit and should show it respect. Besides, once we're back in the Prem those of us who were there can then feel smug and better than all the johnny-come-latelys Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archstanton Posted 29 November, 2009 Share Posted 29 November, 2009 JPT unless we draw the skates in the cup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintSparky Posted 29 November, 2009 Share Posted 29 November, 2009 Until such time as we are actually safe in this division then it has to be the League over everything; that stays the same until such point as we cannot get promoted as well. The Trophy is there to be won and the FA Cup is great to take part in but not at the expense of our league campaign. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 29 November, 2009 Share Posted 29 November, 2009 1 defeat against brighton and give up on the league..? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arizona Posted 29 November, 2009 Author Share Posted 29 November, 2009 1 defeat against brighton and give up on the league..? Nobody is saying that. I'm just saying for example, if it came to a scenario when we had to rest some of our key players because of fixture congestion, which matches would you rest them for. I would say the JPT matches take priority because we have a much greater chance of winning and promotion would take a small miracle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 29 November, 2009 Share Posted 29 November, 2009 Nobody is saying that. I'm just saying for example, if it came to a scenario when we had to rest some of our key players because of fixture congestion, which matches would you rest them for. in that case..the league SHOULD be priority at the mo.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red and white saint Posted 29 November, 2009 Share Posted 29 November, 2009 League i dont think playoffs are out of are reach and I would take The JPT serious as well as we are only going to have a maximum of 4 more games in that. This is hardly going to effect the league form much, if anything may improve it if players are playing for a place in the final at Wembley Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AussieDog Posted 29 November, 2009 Share Posted 29 November, 2009 IF (and I stress IF, as it is still an unlikely scenario)) we got to the playoffs, I would fancy our chances against anybody - assuming Leeds are already promoted. So for a day out at Wembley, I would rather it be in the playoff finals than the JPT. I know we're not THAT good....but we are as good as any other side in this League (with the possible exception of Leeds...god how I hate saying that...) and we are developing a winning mentality, so why not! IF we set our sights on the JPT the season is effectively over in March. Besides, it's too bl00dy cold for me to come back then, I'd much rather book my flights for May! (still cold, but at least I can get plenty of golf in as well! ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 29 November, 2009 Share Posted 29 November, 2009 league for me, until that is looking extremely unlikely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 29 November, 2009 Share Posted 29 November, 2009 league for me, until that is looking extremely unlikely. Agree. Bit of a non brainer really. League HAS to be priority until it's mathematically impossible to reach the playoffs. Next question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SarniaSaint Posted 29 November, 2009 Share Posted 29 November, 2009 Has to be the league which is a true measure of a team's ability over 46 games. Cup competions are just the icing on the cake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leslie Charteris Posted 29 November, 2009 Share Posted 29 November, 2009 The League is the most important priority by a long way - though I'd love a trip to Wembley after Christmas sometime please team. :smt060 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leslie Charteris Posted 29 November, 2009 Share Posted 29 November, 2009 JPT. Final is in -what - March? Winnable and could give us the impetus to push for the playoffs in the run-in, assuming we're mid-table by then, of course... The League and then what he said! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Fan CaM Posted 30 November, 2009 Share Posted 30 November, 2009 Didn't even have to think much about this one....league all the way. Other comps is nice-to-have stuff but will not have the same level of importance on next seasons success. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brightspark Posted 30 November, 2009 Share Posted 30 November, 2009 It's gotta be the league. We need to be playing consistantly well this season, so that, even if we don't go up this season, we have a strong winning mentality against the teams in this league, and that we are confident for automatic promotion come May 2011. In terms of the cup competitions, clearly the JPT is more important. The FA Cup is merely a sideshow, where the only thing important about it is maintaining confidence and form for the next league game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
once_bitterne Posted 30 November, 2009 Share Posted 30 November, 2009 The odds are stacked against us but we really do need to get promoted this season. For all the feelgood factor that we have I wouldn't be too confident that we could keep Lalanna, Lambert or even Pardew for another season in the third flight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hutch Posted 30 November, 2009 Share Posted 30 November, 2009 Just keep winning as many games as we can. This has been the best season for me as a Saints fan for a very long time. It will remain so even if we don't win a cup or get promoted. We will not get relegated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxstone Posted 30 November, 2009 Share Posted 30 November, 2009 The League, the FA Cup, The JPT? There are strong cases for and against both IMO. The League For - There is still a chance of promotion and we don't want to get stuck in a relegation battle. Against - Both promotion and relegation are highly unlikely. In all likely hood we wont have anything to play for come the end of the season. The FA Cup For - A big competition, big financial rewards in the latter rounds and the chance to play some of the big Prem sides. Against - We will inevitably come accross teams in higher leagues if we progress and we're unlikely to beat most of them. Winning it is also near impossible. JPT For - The chance of a day out or two at Wembley and some silverwear. Against - Not a very glamourous, exciting or important competition. I would probably say the JPT. It would be nice to win something. Agree your rationale here, but the most important thing for us is to consolidate in the league first. I think you are right in saying that it would be too much of an ask to force our way into the play-off fixtures but to place ourselves just outside of them and allow AP to make early plans for a push next season is paramount I would suggest. In saying that, a cup final appearance at Wembley would always be welcome regardless of whatever trophy we are competing for. I loved the Simod(?) cup final ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 30 November, 2009 Share Posted 30 November, 2009 Glad not all have given up... 70 odd % for the league. Quite right Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diggers Posted 30 November, 2009 Share Posted 30 November, 2009 I'd be interested to see Alan Pardew's vote... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie2008 Posted 30 November, 2009 Share Posted 30 November, 2009 I'd be interested to see Alan Pardew's vote... IMO a no brainer - League 100% :cool: (No sauce!...) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
altoniansaints Posted 30 November, 2009 Share Posted 30 November, 2009 i voted JPT but if we are not out of the bottom three in the within the next few games then that would change to League! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rooney Posted 30 November, 2009 Share Posted 30 November, 2009 We have a chance of winning something with the JPT which is realistic. I do not think we can win the league or the FA Cup! This would give the club and the fans more impetus and may bring back more of the missing 10K back to SMS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alanh Posted 30 November, 2009 Share Posted 30 November, 2009 It's got to be to win each game that we play, so that means the main priority is the League as we have way more League games than any other. I was hoping that we would get a big Prem team in the cup and go out in glory so that we can concentrate on the League from January onwards. Perhaps in the 4th Round. The JPT is a bonus and it would be great to go to Wembley but it's nowhere near as significant as continuing our winning form in the league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toadhall Saint Posted 30 November, 2009 Share Posted 30 November, 2009 The league for me - anything else is a bonus provided we don't pick up ant injuries in those "bonus" games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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