sadoldgit Posted 6 December, 2009 Share Posted 6 December, 2009 After that silly thread a while back about not if Pardew gets sacked but when, perhaps it is now time to give the guy some credit. He has quietly gone about his job of turning us from a bunch of losers to a team that wins consistently. Sadly you still get the feeling that there are some on here who can't wait for us to start losing games so they can have a pop again though. We may not reach the play offs or go up this year (that -10 made a but dent in our ambitions) but so far, Pardew has done a terrfic job and deserves plenty of credit. Long may it continue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genk Posted 6 December, 2009 Share Posted 6 December, 2009 He has done fantastically well along with his coaching staff. Long may it continue! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wopper Posted 6 December, 2009 Share Posted 6 December, 2009 After that silly thread a while back about not if Pardew gets sacked but when, perhaps it is now time to give the guy some credit. He has quietly gone about his job of turning us from a bunch of losers to a team that wins consistently. Sadly you still get the feeling that there are some on here who can't wait for us to start losing games so they can have a pop again though. We may not reach the play offs or go up this year (that -10 made a but dent in our ambitions) but so far, Pardew has done a terrfic job and deserves plenty of credit. Long may it continue. You need to stop stirring the sh*te Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 6 December, 2009 Share Posted 6 December, 2009 one of the best managers in the league, should probably still be managing at championship level at least. All of his signings have been terrific too, the only question mark is on Mellis - but that's just because he hasn't played enough. All good though. Alot of credit must go to the backroom team of Murdoch, Downes and Wilkins too - not many clubs outside of the premiership can boast a backroom team of former managers. Lots of experience... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grammy Posted 6 December, 2009 Share Posted 6 December, 2009 Well said S.o.g Not just Pardew but the whole coaching and backroom team deserve credit. I know its still early days but in just 4 months we have gone from being a laughing stock to the position that many clubs in this division and higher will look upon with envy. We now have a sound financial base and are on the way back. Still can't believe there are still so many just waiting to p*ss on the optimism parade. Wearing the shirt with pride once again COYR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Landrew Posted 6 December, 2009 Share Posted 6 December, 2009 Oh, I don't know SOG. I think people on here are pretty much convinced Pardew knows what he's doing. They may have taken a while to be convinced, but the evidence is there now. And there is plenty to like. He's passionate about winning, his teams play entertaining, attacking football, but they can defend as well. He can pick a good player and put him into the right position. He can bring players on and coach them to play much better [Lallana, for example]. He sees the same game as the supporters, which helps a great deal in terms of respect; and he talks a huge amount of sense. Under his managership, Saints are becoming a [dare-I-say-it..?] consistent and winning team. It might just be too late for this season, but who knows..? Saints are doing practically ALL the right things for the cause, and there are plenty of games left. As long as we keep winning most of the time, there's still a good chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Landrew Posted 6 December, 2009 Share Posted 6 December, 2009 You need to stop stirring the sh*te Just assume that he wasn't, but just reminding people of how some viewed Pardew when he first arrived, and leave it at that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ART Posted 6 December, 2009 Share Posted 6 December, 2009 Not wishing to tempt fate I have to say sadoldgit that I thoroughly agree with you. I really believed that Pardieu had sold out, lost his touch after he walked out on Reading. I've never forgiven him or other like managers who leave a club before completely the job they were hired for. In returning to basics in League One he has recaptured the genious that made him so sought after at Reading. I haven't felt so optimistic about Saints in a long long while and am beginning to believe we are finally on the up. Other managers have done it in taking clubs from the relegation places around Christmas time to promotion in the same season. There are two managers this season about to give that challenge and the other teams a run for their money. Pardieu at Saints and that horrible man Roy Keane at Ipswich. He too finally seems to be turning things around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scott_saints Posted 6 December, 2009 Share Posted 6 December, 2009 I jumped on the "if results don't improve, get rid of him" bandwagon a couple of months back. I think I was still in a hangover of last season, where patience got me nowhere, as we went down. Full credit to AP though. Haven't felt so good about Saints since 03. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legod Third Coming Posted 6 December, 2009 Share Posted 6 December, 2009 Good managers do not become bad overnight and vice versa. I notice it took Strachan five games (again) before his first win... When you consider what Pardew inherited and the fact that we only use three outfield players regularly who were here when he arrived, you understand the scale of rebuilding job he has undertaken. Really, the turnaround is remarkably short. Many managers might have made a more instant impact but would they have been able to sustain it? Pardew, on the other hand has identified all our weaknesses and is working to address them. Yes, we're still a work in progress. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadoldgit Posted 6 December, 2009 Author Share Posted 6 December, 2009 I agree there is still work to be done. However, after the lack of pre season I think that he has done a terric job so far and feel optimistic that there is more to come. Oh and by the way, I am not sh*t stirring, I am trying to redress the balance in favour of a decent manager who, so far, is doing a good job for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fitzhugh Fella Posted 6 December, 2009 Share Posted 6 December, 2009 I've said before but what I like most is the way he talks. I can't remember when we last had a manager who makes so much sense when he opens his mouth. After Strachan's smart arse one liners and Burley's mumblings hearing AP's verdicts on things is very refreshing. The guy can communicate and that's part of the battle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Landrew Posted 6 December, 2009 Share Posted 6 December, 2009 ...Strachan's smart arse one liners... But they were very entertaining, and if one read between the lines, they made sense. But I agree, Pardew's delivery is rather refreshing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gis Posted 6 December, 2009 Share Posted 6 December, 2009 Have a listen to Dean Wilkins comments on Saints iPlayer as well - one of the best things that Pardew has done is to surround himself with a core of excellent staff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RinNY Posted 6 December, 2009 Share Posted 6 December, 2009 Not wishing to tempt fate I have to say sadoldgit that I thoroughly agree with you. I really believed that Pardieu had sold out, lost his touch after he walked out on Reading. I've never forgiven him or other like managers who leave a club before completely the job they were hired for. In returning to basics in League One he has recaptured the genious that made him so sought after at Reading. I haven't felt so optimistic about Saints in a long long while and am beginning to believe we are finally on the up. Other managers have done it in taking clubs from the relegation places around Christmas time to promotion in the same season. There are two managers this season about to give that challenge and the other teams a run for their money. Pardieu at Saints and that horrible man Roy Keane at Ipswich. He too finally seems to be turning things around. I agree completely with this: the way Pardew left Reading left a bad taste in my mouth, and he didn't really inspire at West Ham or (obviously) Charlton. But he has proved me wrong in doubting him: really gotten back to the things that made him a good manager to begin with, built a strong a flexible squad, instilled discipline and a positive attitude in the players, and gotten the club really believing in our ability to win any game. His signings have been excellent, and his identification of which players already here to keep and how to use them has been excellent to. What a pleasure to see the progress that Lloyd James, Morgan Schneiderlin, and Adam Lallana have been making this season. For the first time this season, I really believe the promotion playoffs are a realistic hope. So long as we can maintain our current form, I don't see any team outside the top three that is not going to be dropping points in fair numbers over the course of the rest of the season, so I do think there's a realistic chance of us finishing somewhere in the 4 to 6 group. And I really fancy our chances in the playoffs if (knock on wood) we do get to them. So yes, full credit to Pardew and his staff! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doggface Posted 6 December, 2009 Share Posted 6 December, 2009 Pards has done a great job so far and I am excited about the future. Agree with duncan the guy talks alot of sense. I hope he will be around for years but lets be honest we have acheived nothing yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fitzhugh Fella Posted 6 December, 2009 Share Posted 6 December, 2009 But they were very entertaining, and if one read between the lines, they made sense. But I agree, Pardew's delivery is rather refreshing. Sometimes they were amusing but more often than not he was trying to be too clever. Pardew actually appears to enjoy talking and explaining. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eurosaint Posted 6 December, 2009 Share Posted 6 December, 2009 Have a listen to Dean Wilkins comments on Saints iPlayer as well - one of the best things that Pardew has done is to surround himself with a core of excellent staff. Spot on ! When AP first started he said that the club was 'dysfunctional' and that he felt he had to restructure completely, from top to bottom ! It took a couple of months to establish a strong backroom staff, then a solid spine to the team, then a goalscoring frontline, then fitness and finally a winning mentality ! So far he has delivered what it said on the tin and for that he deserves credit ! The prats who ran out of patience after about 5 games deserve to be ridiculed but, then again, they are probably too thick to realise it !!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoggins Posted 6 December, 2009 Share Posted 6 December, 2009 He has made EXCELLENT signings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ewell Posted 6 December, 2009 Share Posted 6 December, 2009 he didn't really inspire at West Ham So two championship playoff final appearances, the second resulting in promotion to the Premier League followed by 9th place in the Premier League as well as a cup final defeat to Liverpool. Yeah I agree that performance is not good enough and does not inspire me either! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 6 December, 2009 Share Posted 6 December, 2009 I think Wally Downes needs to take alot of credit - b4 he arrived we were shocking (Played 8, Won 1) then suddenly BOOM! I will hold judgement on AP - I didnt criticise after the dismal start and wont get too carried away now. If he gets us to the playoffs (& promoted) then he's a great job, if not then he's under BIG pressure next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 6 December, 2009 Share Posted 6 December, 2009 (edited) Sometimes they were amusing but more often than not he was trying to be too clever. Pardew actually appears to enjoy talking and explaining. I strongly disagree with you there and I think many would. I suspect your dislike for Strachan as a manager is clouding your judgement. With regards to Pardew though that is very true. I find myself nodding along to what he says most of the time. Edited 6 December, 2009 by hypochondriac Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 6 December, 2009 Share Posted 6 December, 2009 I think Wally Downes needs to take alot of credit - b4 he arrived we were shocking (Played 8, Won 1) then suddenly BOOM! I will hold judgement on AP - I didnt criticise after the dismal start and wont get too carried away now. If he gets us to the playoffs (& promoted) then he's a great job, if not then he's under BIG pressure next year. Well if he doesn't get us into the playoffs but near it then I still think he'll have done a good job. I expect us to get promoted next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harwellsaint Posted 6 December, 2009 Share Posted 6 December, 2009 After that silly thread a while back about not if Pardew gets sacked but when, perhaps it is now time to give the guy some credit. He has quietly gone about his job of turning us from a bunch of losers to a team that wins consistently. Sadly you still get the feeling that there are some on here who can't wait for us to start losing games so they can have a pop again though. We may not reach the play offs or go up this year (that -10 made a but dent in our ambitions) but so far, Pardew has done a terrfic job and deserves plenty of credit. Long may it continue. went to the game yesterday, so enyoyable to watch saints play like this well done ap Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 6 December, 2009 Share Posted 6 December, 2009 After that silly thread a while back about not if Pardew gets sacked but when, perhaps it is now time to give the guy some credit. He has quietly gone about his job of turning us from a bunch of losers to a team that wins consistently. Sadly you still get the feeling that there are some on here who can't wait for us to start losing games so they can have a pop again though. We may not reach the play offs or go up this year (that -10 made a but dent in our ambitions) but so far, Pardew has done a terrfic job and deserves plenty of credit. Long may it continue. there is no one that wants us to lose games pardew is great Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjii Posted 6 December, 2009 Share Posted 6 December, 2009 We really have been very fortunate that things have turned out like this. I am extremely happy with everything at Saints at the moment - it's such a nice feeling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNSUN Posted 6 December, 2009 Share Posted 6 December, 2009 He has made EXCELLENT signings. This is key. Over and above the fact that he's a tactician that can switch between formations, has told players that are not up to it that they'll be shipped out, and is 100% truthful during interviews with his assessments and visions of the future, he has assembled a team of quality. Not one of his signings has been a miss. Granted, not all of them have had the same impact and degree of success, but they've all played their role in our good form. Not all of them were plain sailing either - Lambert and Hammond were always going to be good additions, the same could be said for Jaidi and Harding, but you could say that he gambled on players like Connolly, Antonio, Murty and Waigo. Gambles sometimes don't come off, but for Pardew he must have some sort of magic touch. Mellis would be the only incoming player that raises a doubt, but he undeniably has quality, has shown it, and after all it's not his fault he's not getting alook in currently. I'm looking forward to the transfer window to see what Pardew does. Yes, he'll have a duff signing eventually, let's just hope it's a loan and not a perm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalek2003 Posted 6 December, 2009 Share Posted 6 December, 2009 Pardew is the first manager since WGS who has status and respect from the top players. GB should have had all of these, but he seems to have lost the plot. The importance of signing a respected known manager, in Pardew is evident. Pity we didn't do this in the Spring of 04. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super_Uwe Posted 6 December, 2009 Share Posted 6 December, 2009 I think there definitely are a certain proportion of people who like to have a moan, but again I would doubt that anyone on here really wants us to lose. I think... I recall mentioning a week before the Yeovil game that clearly things would have to turn around before Christmas otherwise we would be in a dogfight, and to be honest everyone at the club has done brilliantly over the past two months or so. AP had a point to prove when he joined us and I think we have got a top, top manager who's also hungry to succeed. He's been through the mill over the past couple of years and - touch wood - he will continue to rebuild his reputation with us! We have stability on so many levels now and it is clear that this is the basis for any successful side. Promotion is absolutely still on the cards this year - it will be very, very tough, but if we continue with our current form over the next 4-5 months we will be there or there abouts for the play-offs come the end of the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kpturner Posted 6 December, 2009 Share Posted 6 December, 2009 Do you think he binned Waigo because of his tantrum against Wycombe (when he got subbed)? By the way, no burgers left at 14:10? Made St Mary's catering seem bloody classy!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadoldgit Posted 6 December, 2009 Author Share Posted 6 December, 2009 Have a listen to Dean Wilkins comments on Saints iPlayer as well - one of the best things that Pardew has done is to surround himself with a core of excellent staff. I think this is the key to a good manager/leader. Get good people together pulling in the same direction. For the first time in a long time this is happening and the results are coming, but they help. If you are winning games even if you are not playing well it takes the pressure off. If you play well and lose the pressure is back on. But what is evident is that the time that Lawrie McMenemy was afforded to build up SFC is no longer a given. It seems like 2 seasons is your lot. I can understand this but with only two transfer periods a year it gets harder for managers to build a side that will find success relatively quickly. Some manage it but most don't. And those that find a quick fix often fail later. I'd like to see us stick with a manager for the length of his contract for a change, but I expect that Pardew will lose the support of many if we are not playing CCC football the season after next. I have been impressed by a lot of teams in our division. In years gone by football in the 3rd and 4th divisons was pretty dire. Cloggers and hoofers for the most part. A lot of the football played this year looks to be as good as anything in the CCC. This makes it harder for teams to get out of both divisions. For our part though I think our current team would hold its own in the CCC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krissyboy31 Posted 6 December, 2009 Share Posted 6 December, 2009 LM was a different era. If that happened now, he more than likely would have been sacked after his first season. If not, he most certainly would have been poached between winning the cup and finishing runners up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Landrew Posted 6 December, 2009 Share Posted 6 December, 2009 Markus Liebherr and Nicola Cortese are an entirely new bunch of owner and operator. I'm not sure they would apply the standard levels of patience that seem to come with the job of managing a football team. Markus says he's here for the long term, and good for him. I think he's individual enough to apply his own standards. As to cloggers and hoofers, I have been impressed with the standard of play in League One, and just occasionally from League Two, although this isn't an observation from just this season. Aside from the journeymen, there is plenty of skill, but what most often seems to be missing is speed of thought and vision, even from the technically gifted, plus a little less fitness than top line players. Indeed, some lower league players seem to be just a fitness level away from being able to cut it in the Premiership/Championship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rooney Posted 6 December, 2009 Share Posted 6 December, 2009 He has moulded his own team now and what a great job he has done. He speaks so much sense in his post match interviews too. Thanks Alan, Sundays and Mondays are so much better to wake up to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie2008 Posted 6 December, 2009 Share Posted 6 December, 2009 Just assume that he wasn't, but just reminding people of how some viewed Pardew when he first arrived, and leave it at that. :smt038 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dune Posted 6 December, 2009 Share Posted 6 December, 2009 After that silly thread a while back about not if Pardew gets sacked but when, perhaps it is now time to give the guy some credit. He has quietly gone about his job of turning us from a bunch of losers to a team that wins consistently. Sadly you still get the feeling that there are some on here who can't wait for us to start losing games so they can have a pop again though. We may not reach the play offs or go up this year (that -10 made a but dent in our ambitions) but so far, Pardew has done a terrfic job and deserves plenty of credit. Long may it continue. No-one was calling for Pardew to be sacked, but many were rightly stating we needed to get our act together - WHICH WE HAVE. And please don't bore us with another bout of your oh so dull exchanges with Alpine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leicestersaint Posted 6 December, 2009 Share Posted 6 December, 2009 Respect to AP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legod Third Coming Posted 6 December, 2009 Share Posted 6 December, 2009 No-one was calling for Pardew to be sacked, but many were rightly stating we needed to get our act together - WHICH WE HAVE. And please don't bore us with another bout of your oh so dull exchanges with Alpine. Many were not rightly stating we need to get our act together, they were prematurely criticising a rebuilding job. They were stood while MichaelAngelo was mixing his paint telling him the chapel ceiling looked a bit plain... Anyone could see what Pardew was doing - laying foundations, rebuilding a club - but some lack patience and perspective. To be fair to them, we had been through so much crap it was easy to lose faith. But the evidence was there from day one that Pardew was doing the right things and changing where change was needed. They don't say patience is a virtue for nothing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 6 December, 2009 Share Posted 6 December, 2009 im sure SoG was aiming his little dig at the likes of me.. funny how I was hoping for/saying we should and could be going on these runs of forms and we SHOULD be going for the playoffs whilst people like him laughed, oh how they laughed at me for being.."unrealistic"... funny how these people have the neck to have a dig at those who wanted/expected this from the moment we had a very rich owner and they brought someone in like pardew Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dune Posted 6 December, 2009 Share Posted 6 December, 2009 Many were not rightly stating we need to get our act together, they were prematurely criticising a rebuilding job. They were stood while MichaelAngelo was mixing his paint telling him the chapel ceiling looked a bit plain... Anyone could see what Pardew was doing - laying foundations, rebuilding a club - but some lack patience and perspective. To be fair to them, we had been through so much crap it was easy to lose faith. But the evidence was there from day one that Pardew was doing the right things and changing where change was needed. They don't say patience is a virtue for nothing But at the time we had been playng well and getting better but we weren't getting the points. This went on for a worryingly long time and we came to a crossroads where we either started delivering OR questions had to be asked. Thankfully we started delivering and that's down to the mental strength of our team just as much as it is to pardew - so welldone everyone. This thread is a crock of ****e to be honest because all it really is is a ner ner ner ner i was right and you were wrong **** stirring wind up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank's cousin Posted 6 December, 2009 Share Posted 6 December, 2009 I was wrong... because although I dont think I slagged him, I was 'underwhelmed ' by his appointment at the time... but I like being wrong! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david in sweden Posted 6 December, 2009 Share Posted 6 December, 2009 (edited) Have a listen to Dean Wilkins comments on Saints iPlayer as well - one of the best things that Pardew has done is to surround himself with a core of excellent staff. It could be the making of a great partnership. None of these men is particularly " long in the tooth " even though they are " long on experience" , but they have moulded a good squad in a very short time. Many years ago, I can recall the football world having a laugh at the young Brian Clough when he started out at (then) fourth division Hartlepool. In a few years (and with Peter Taylor alongside) he created some great teams. Hopefully, AP and his crew (Dean, Wally; Doddsy and Pucko) are building something long-lasting at SMS, and (as several here have already mentioned), one can understand how his plain-speaking style got him the job in the first place. He may not have a Championship / championship-winning squad yet, but it's looking good - so far. Edited 6 December, 2009 by david in sweden Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 6 December, 2009 Share Posted 6 December, 2009 im sure SoG was aiming his little dig at the likes of me.. funny how I was hoping for/saying we should and could be going on these runs of forms and we SHOULD be going for the playoffs whilst people like him laughed, oh how they laughed at me for being.."unrealistic"... funny how these people have the neck to have a dig at those who wanted/expected this from the moment we had a very rich owner and they brought someone in like pardew I agree! Playoffs was always realistic and some comments have been very personal and hurtful but we stuck with our views/opinions and now seem to have the last laugh. A little taste of those that doubted and should apologise. I think that reaching the playoffs was always going to be a pipe dream this season. Time to lower our expectations? I'd settle for not getting relegated. The play offs was not going to be an option 5th from bottom is my target and has been since day one. I will be happy to stay up Never thought we would make the play offs this season anyway - neither do I think we'll reach that high next either - fwiw. the play-offs weren't a realistic proposition We had no chance of play-offs/promotion anyway. Glad people are starting to realise. I never expected us to get to the playoffs anyway. As long as we stay up this season Don't expect to get to play offs due to -10 and slow start. Anyone who actually thinks we will get into the play offs need to have their head checked. With -10 and a poor start to the season we were never going to get to the play-offs except in kids dreams. Little or no chance of Play-offs. Slim chance of top half. More than likely bottom 8 finish. We are not good enough for the play-offs this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 6 December, 2009 Share Posted 6 December, 2009 good work glasgow..that itself is a golden post some people were quite offensive to pardews abilities there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 6 December, 2009 Share Posted 6 December, 2009 good work glasgow..that itself is a golden post some people were quite offensive to pardews abilities there I think putting that the playoffs seem unrealistic this year at the time was an OK comment. It's the people who look at the situation in hindsight on both sides and then laugh at what people have written which I have a problem with. It's like that thread from 7 months ago that people dug up recently. What possible relevance does something like that have now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 6 December, 2009 Share Posted 6 December, 2009 I think putting that the playoffs seem unrealistic this year at the time was an OK comment. It's the people who look at the situation in hindsight on both sides and then laugh at what people have written which I have a problem with. It's like that thread from 7 months ago that people dug up recently. What possible relevance does something like that have now? if you cant laugh at yourself for getting something completely wrong on here...then what is the fun of this place.. (i have had to have a serious chuckle at some of the utter crap I have posted over the last 10 years) I remember claiming "wotte will keep us up"....lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dune Posted 6 December, 2009 Share Posted 6 December, 2009 One step at a time. 1. We need to get to zero. 2. We need to aim for midfield. Once these have been achieved we can look at promotion be it via the play-offs or automatic. And now we are in midfield the next target is that pack of teams from 10th to 5th who have between 29 and 32 points. And WHEN we get there the play-offs will be in touching distance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 6 December, 2009 Share Posted 6 December, 2009 I agree! Playoffs was always realistic and some comments have been very personal and hurtful but we stuck with our views/opinions and now seem to have the last laugh. A little taste of those that doubted and should apologise. First time I have ever been included in with the negatives! I have always thought play offs are achieveable without going as far as expecting. Still think we may well, and won't be surprised in the least, but wouldn't be able to confidently expect it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 6 December, 2009 Share Posted 6 December, 2009 First time I have ever been included in with the negatives! I have always thought play offs are achieveable without going as far as expecting. Still think we may well, and won't be surprised in the least, but wouldn't be able to confidently expect it. I found loads from you saying we would make top 8 and loads more being very positive about our PO prospects but they didnt fit my agenda Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legod Third Coming Posted 6 December, 2009 Share Posted 6 December, 2009 But at the time we had been playng well and getting better but we weren't getting the points. This went on for a worryingly long time and we came to a crossroads where we either started delivering OR questions had to be asked. Thankfully we started delivering and that's down to the mental strength of our team just as much as it is to pardew - so welldone everyone. This thread is a crock of ****e to be honest because all it really is is a ner ner ner ner i was right and you were wrong **** stirring wind up. We were playing ok but without the talent we needed. If you look back, we started adding players after Pardew arrived. No surprise to me that we started winning when the transfer window closed... Just take a look at the early season team sheets. It's frightening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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