Plymouth rag annoyed at SFC - non-SFC photographers refused entry to SMS

[Pancake]

http://www.thisisplymouth.co.uk/news/Pictures-ban-insult-supporters/article-2497239-detail/article.html

 

"Southampton Football Club is refusing to allow access inside the ground to photographers from local papers, the national press or news agencies. Instead, they expect print outlets to buy 'official' pictures from their in-house photographer."

Edited 6 August, 2010 by Pancake

[once_bitterne]

Let the Cortese bashing commence....

[benjamsandwich28]

Although i've not disagreed with a lot the club has done recently which has angered others, this particular ruling seems utterly ridiculous and pointless...

 

We're certainly not going to make any friends this year that's for sure!

[Pancake]

Let the Cortese bashing commence....

 

Errr, I was simply pointing out a new story concerning SFC. Not Cortese bashing from me.

[NorthamSteve]

Good, more cash for us.

 

Nice work NC. Let's face it they'll sell so it's good business.

[Deppo]

Good stuff NC.

[stevegrant]

Good, more cash for us.

Except on Saturday when the Plymouth Herald will be providing exactly £0 to SFC.

 

Local papers simply don't have the budget to pay extra for photos not taken by their own photographers, so the club will receive the square root of **** all from local newspapers. Expect many of the clubs themselves might take issue with it as well, and impose reciprocal charges specifically for our photographers.

[Glasgow_Saint]

They are right....

[Pancake]

Except on Saturday when the Plymouth Herald will be providing exactly £0 to SFC.

 

I just noticed you tweeted this before I did Steve!

 

I'm cant see this working long term for the club. In theory its a sound idea, keep it all in house so you can releases the images you want for press use - but it is just not workable. As you say, local papers and fan media wont pay the club to use images.

[niceandfriendly]

Except on Saturday when the Plymouth Herald will be providing exactly £0 to SFC.

 

Local papers simply don't have the budget to pay extra for photos not taken by their own photographers, so the club will receive the square root of **** all from local newspapers. Expect many of the clubs themselves might take issue with it as well, and impose reciprocal charges specifically for our photographers.

 

If you've got direct links with the staff at the Plymouth Herald/all local newspapers around the country then fair enough, but if not then this is just conjecture. They might but the images. I don't know, and I don't think you know either.

 

Not that I'm too bothered either way. As long as we win the League I don't care if Cortese ****es off every single football club and local media outlet around the country.

[lambertsrightleg]

I have previously not got involved in any anti/pro Cortese threads. However I feel that this is a bit naughty from the big guy

[Saint Charlie]

As a big fan of what NC has done so far, this does seem silly. Would be interested what tbe perceived benefit is apart from making people dislike us which is of no benefit and heaps more pressure on us to succeed

[Kingsland Nick]

Except on Saturday when the Plymouth Herald will be providing exactly £0 to SFC.

 

Local papers simply don't have the budget to pay extra for photos not taken by their own photographers, so the club will receive the square root of **** all from local newspapers. Expect many of the clubs themselves might take issue with it as well, and impose reciprocal charges specifically for our photographers.

 

And most match reports in the national press (on the rare occasions that they bother to report our games) are too short to need a photo.

[Marsdinho]

Who cares, the football starts tomorrow...

[Whitey Grandad]

Not that I'm too bothered either way. As long as we win the League I don't care if Cortese ****es off every single football club and local media outlet around the country.

I agree to some extent but if true it would indicate that Cortese is not familar with football and how it is run in this country at these levels.

[merrimd]

I seriously could not care less if once a year, our opponents are unable to print photos of a match in their local paper, a paper I will never read.

 

Honestly.

 

Does not even register with me.

[stevegrant]

If you've got direct links with the staff at the Plymouth Herald/all local newspapers around the country then fair enough, but if not then this is just conjecture. They might but the images. I don't know, and I don't think you know either.

Well I've got the following quote from that article to go on:

Not surprisingly, The Herald — and many other media outlets — have refused

I would take that as a statement that they won't be paying SFC for photos.

 

Not that I'm too bothered either way. As long as we win the League I don't care if Cortese ****es off every single football club and local media outlet around the country.

The football clubs that he expects to do business with to buy/sell players? That would really be a wise move.

[qwertySFC]

;)NC is just proceting our players Image Rights

[Pancake]

And most match reports in the national press (on the rare occasions that they bother to report our games) are too short to need a photo.

 

We were on the cover of The League paper a lot last season.

[ssaints]

Nice to see that we are being run as a business. I remember all sorts of rubbish the old regime got involved in. NC has a vision to develop SFC into a world class club and I for one love the Saints so whatever 'business' decision needs to be made let NC get on with it. Cortese may not be familiar with how to run a football club, but who actually cares his level of experience goes way above how to run a second tier football club. Why are people even worried about the media they do so much damage can't believe people can even moan about this. If he signs another 1 million player and the money comes from running the club as a business will these people still complain. Get real get a grip. Winge over and out!

[martel]

They are right....

 

I am begining to think that the way we do things in the UK is being lost in translation some how, does anyone know of any other club that carries out this kind of practice?

[Bwanamakubwa]

I really dont know what to make of anything Cortese related anymore.

 

Im torn between not caring as long as we win the league, figuring out what is speculation and what is not, and being perplexed by the nitpicking that apparently occurs.

 

Then I read this: "I met the former banker last year and found him to be considered, intelligent and calm. But it's fair to say he's also unaccustomed to failure". from the BBC pundit Paul Fletcher.

 

He sounds brilliant from that comment.

 

As many have said, BRING ON THE FOOTBALL.

[Mowgli]

Does anyone care? I'm a Saints fan and I go to support my team on a Saturday. I have no interest in the Plymouth Herald and really couldn't care less. The only impact this has on me is (maybe) some more income for the club which may mean better players. If there is no income, we are no worse off than we were before.

[RedAndWhite91]

And most match reports in the national press (on the rare occasions that they bother to report our games) are too short to need a photo.

 

Last season the Sun often featured us as the main report in the League One section, in fact, just a couple of weeks ago they had a League One build up page and the main article was about Rickie Lambert.

[Marsdinho]

NC: "Hi L1 or L2 club, I would like to buy your player for £500,000"

 

CHAIRMAN OF CLUB: "No, im going to have to refuse your offer as you wouldnt let our local paper print any images"

 

NC "OK, thanks"

[Pancake]

Does anyone care? I'm a Saints fan and I go to support my team on a Saturday. I have no interest in the Plymouth Herald and really couldn't care less. The only impact this has on me is (maybe) some more income for the club which may mean better players. If there is no income, we are no worse off than we were before.

 

Glad you are all right, some of us that live away quite like seeing pictures of the match in the paper or on-line.

 

But as long as you are OK, that is all that matters.

[oldskoolsi]

Do any other clubs do this? In England or abroad. Also do other sports do it? It may just be the way things are going.

[Marsdinho]

Maybe he has better things to do than worry about every other Saints fan.

[Horley CTFC Saint]

At least its not just the fans they're milking like a cash cow

[trousers]

Maybe this is just a 'once off' for the first game of our 125th anniversary because they want to 'officially' reveal the new kit as a bit of an exclusive?

 

Or is this 'regime' in place for the whole season?

 

Does seem a little control freakery-esque but nothing to get wound up about. It's only football.

[oldskoolsi]

Quick google has shown Bristol Rovers tried in in 2007. No idea of how successful it was but they allowed their local rag.

http://www.epuk.org/News/669/bristol-rovers-ban

[Deppo]

NC: "Hi L1 or L2 club, I would like to buy your player for £500,000"

 

CHAIRMAN OF CLUB: "No, im going to have to refuse your offer as you wouldnt let our local paper print any images"

 

NC "OK, thanks"

 

[Deppo]

Glad you are all right, some of us that live away quite like seeing pictures of the match in the paper or on-line.

 

But as long as you are OK, that is all that matters.

 

Perhaps you could get the internet?

[Barry the Badger]

Not bothered.

[Block 5]

My mobile phone has a camera and I shall be at the game.

If any newspaper editors would like some photos of my p155ed up mates please PM me.

[trousers]

Perhaps you could get the internet?

 

The internet is much overrated as a source of information IMHO

[sadoldgit]

And the response would have been if Lowe had pulled this stunt? NC sounds like a bit of a control freak to me and is certainly not out to make friends. Oh well....

[NickG]

Heard this few days ago from a journo.

 

Said press were annoyed but that it makes sense and surprised others not done it before.

[sadoldgit]

I wonder if all visitors will be asked to hand over their mobie phones at the gates?

[OldNick]

i dont know how much this is going to generate for the club, but it seems NC is trying to revolutionise football.......oh we tried that before

I do feel the Plymouth paper is being a bit hypothetical as i suspect they do sell the pictures if anyone wants them.

[NickG]

looks like the echo are paying, we hardly ever have match photos in any national. Only losers likely to be away teams local rag - choice of paying or missing photos at one game a year. Hardly a problem.

[Big Bad Bob]

So, before this, did photgraphers have to pay to be able to take photos for matches?

 

And is there only 1 official club photgrapher or is that the name for the team of photgraphers?

[aintforever]

Good, more cash for us.

 

Nice work NC. Let's face it they'll sell so it's good business.

 

Until we go play in Plymouth and the roles are reversed.

[Andyb1]

Yes another argument about nothing. Who cares?

[Marsdinho]

About 6/7 years ago, I took a group of disabled kids on a trip to SMS to see a game.

 

We wanted to film the day and use the footage as part of a promo video for the organisation we were helping.

 

We asked if we could film outside the stadium and also inside the disabled section of SMS, we promised not to film any part of the match.

 

Guess what, we were refused, as SFC wanted to protect their image rights.

[Hatch]

I would have thought that something like this , ie press access to matches , would be covered in the Football league rules and regulations.

Are the images of matches copyright of The Football League,

 

Are we making the written media pay for their wireless internet access as well?

Edited 6 August, 2010 by Hatch

[saint_mears]

Yet another huge PR disaster for Cortese. If i was him i would get rid of the six figure david bick asap

[Thedelldays]

Except on Saturday when the Plymouth Herald will be providing exactly £0 to SFC.

 

Local papers simply don't have the budget to pay extra for photos not taken by their own photographers, so the club will receive the square root of **** all from local newspapers. Expect many of the clubs themselves might take issue with it as well, and impose reciprocal charges specifically for our photographers.

 

i will let you all know if there are any pics from the game in the paper

[saint_mears]

I can understand this if we where in the Premiership but not in league 1 this just creates resentment.

[Thedelldays]

And the response would have been if Lowe had pulled this stunt? NC sounds like a bit of a control freak to me and is certainly not out to make friends. Oh well....

 

why do you keep bringing lowe up..? live in the now