Gemmel Posted 31 August, 2010 Share Posted 31 August, 2010 I just heard Dean Wilkins interview on Solent. I wasn't at the match so not going to judge his thoughts on how we played (He thought we played well) but impressed he came out and took it on the chin, didn't dodge the questions and was upfront and honest. Now it's your turn Nicola, you are the Chief Exe and your business is in trouble. Nothing that can't be repaired, but it's time to come out and talk to your customers. Don't hide behind the web site; Radio Solent, South Today whatever, lets have it. You have created this situation and you need to explain your reasoning. It might be completely justified, but doubt and confusion lead to division and failure - We've been there before and there's no winners. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 31 August, 2010 Share Posted 31 August, 2010 This is a fair comment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nexstar Posted 31 August, 2010 Share Posted 31 August, 2010 I agree, Cortese should be open and honest about why Pardew was sacked and what will happen next. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 31 August, 2010 Share Posted 31 August, 2010 Yes, he needs to explain his actions. Preferably without a dig at former players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marc_saint Posted 31 August, 2010 Share Posted 31 August, 2010 hear hear!!!!! We need and deserve to have answers. The rumour mill and bad feeling may well just get worse otherwise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rocknrollman no2 Posted 31 August, 2010 Share Posted 31 August, 2010 I wouldnt hold your breath! We wont hear anything from Cortese until the new manager is announced. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 31 August, 2010 Share Posted 31 August, 2010 I agree, Cortese should be open and honest about why Pardew was sacked and what will happen next. In fairness, he might not be permitted to do that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadoldgit Posted 31 August, 2010 Share Posted 31 August, 2010 I feel sorry for Wilkins. He knows no matter what the results are like his a*se is fired soon too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 31 August, 2010 Share Posted 31 August, 2010 I feel sorry for Wilkins. He knows no matter what the results are like his a*se is fired soon too. According to Solent, cortese has assured him of a role at the club no matter what. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkSFC Posted 31 August, 2010 Share Posted 31 August, 2010 In fairness, he might not be permitted to do that. Exactly...nailed on that there is a mutual confidentiality agreement in place. Would be good to hear something from him though!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rocknrollman no2 Posted 31 August, 2010 Share Posted 31 August, 2010 According to Solent, cortese has assured him of a role at the club no matter what. Didnt Lowe say the same thing about Wigley? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted 31 August, 2010 Share Posted 31 August, 2010 I'd love to see Cortese come out and tell us his reasons for sacking Pardew, because at the minute I can't work out why he has decided to do it. There may be some very good reasons behind the move, and if that's the case, then I'm sure the majority of fans would understand the decision and come to accept it a lot easier if they knew. But the fans can only judge the decision based on what we know. So what DO we know exactly? In truth, very little, but we're all aware of the work Pardew has done, and how he has built a squad which should be more than capable of getting out of this division IMO. We know that Pardew provided us with our most enjoyable and successful season in a long while, and I don't think anyone can deny that we've been playing decent football of late and that the future has looked very bright. Now, with all that in mind, sacking AP 3 games into the season seems baffling. An explanation of sorts from Cortese would go a long way to reassuring the fans and it'd stick to the 'transparency' policy with the fans that was promised soon after Markus Liebherr completed his takeover. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
egreog Posted 31 August, 2010 Share Posted 31 August, 2010 Its a typical case of very little factual information from source which encourages wild and inaccurate rumours to fill the vacuum, and this will continue until the media and customers are spoken to and given a semblance of factual information. All very odd really Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Who? Posted 31 August, 2010 Share Posted 31 August, 2010 Does not and will not say a thing until a new manager has been taken on. It has been less than 24 hours, and I want news just as much as the next man. he does not have to explain anything to anyone about his actions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marc_saint Posted 31 August, 2010 Share Posted 31 August, 2010 on twitter...... solentsport #Saintsfc keeper Kelvin Davis said to written press "i've never been at a club where everyone likes the manager"... Response to unrest talk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmel Posted 31 August, 2010 Author Share Posted 31 August, 2010 Does not and will not say a thing until a new manager has been taken on. It has been less than 24 hours, and I want news just as much as the next man. he does not have to explain anything to anyone about his actions. Your right he doesn't have to do anything. But any other company going through this amount of change, unrest and uncertainty, would have the CEO out on the charm offensive or at the very least, trying to appease the customer base. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red and White Russ Posted 31 August, 2010 Share Posted 31 August, 2010 Just a thought, but I wonder what peoples reactions would be if Pardew had still been in charge tonight, and the same result ( 0-3 ) would have occured. Would we still be saying Cortese was a p***k then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tractor_Saint Posted 31 August, 2010 Share Posted 31 August, 2010 Exactly...nailed on that there is a mutual confidentiality agreement in place. Think you'll also find AP has signed a compromise agreement to ensure he gets his cash but can't talk. Shame but that's business. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HedgeEnder Posted 31 August, 2010 Share Posted 31 August, 2010 Does not and will not say a thing until a new manager has been taken on. It has been less than 24 hours, and I want news just as much as the next man. he does not have to explain anything to anyone about his actions. As someone whos paid nearly £400 for a season ticket, yes he does Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1976_Child Posted 31 August, 2010 Share Posted 31 August, 2010 I just heard Dean Wilkins interview on Solent. I wasn't at the match so not going to judge his thoughts on how we played (He thought we played well) but impressed he came out and took it on the chin, didn't dodge the questions and was upfront and honest. Now it's your turn Nicola, you are the Chief Exe and your business is in trouble. Nothing that can't be repaired, but it's time to come out and talk to your customers. Don't hide behind the web site; Radio Solent, South Today whatever, lets have it. You have created this situation and you need to explain your reasoning. It might be completely justified, but doubt and confusion lead to division and failure - We've been there before and there's no winners. I am not a f u c k ing customer. I am a loyal supporter. Cortese is a ****. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Munster Posted 31 August, 2010 Share Posted 31 August, 2010 According to Solent, cortese has assured him of a role at the club no matter what. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1976_Child Posted 31 August, 2010 Share Posted 31 August, 2010 As someone whos paid nearly £400 for a season ticket, yes he does +1000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 Cortese has a lot of explaining to do. Best he keeps his ****ing pie hole closed and gets us a top-flight manager in before the colchester game. Don't **** with our club Cortese boy. Get it sorted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 31 August, 2010 Share Posted 31 August, 2010 Just a thought, but I wonder what peoples reactions would be if Pardew had still been in charge tonight, and the same result ( 0-3 ) would have occured. Would we still be saying Cortese was a p***k then. Perhaps but then that never happened so the point is irrelevant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kpturner Posted 31 August, 2010 Share Posted 31 August, 2010 According to Solent, cortese has assured him of a role at the club no matter what.That is what they told Wotte too ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintscottofthenortham Posted 31 August, 2010 Share Posted 31 August, 2010 Great post. Thought exactly the same thing today. Don't think he realises quite how important the fans are to the club. And i'm not a Cortese basher and trying to slag him off, i just really dont. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintscottofthenortham Posted 31 August, 2010 Share Posted 31 August, 2010 As someone whos paid nearly £400 for a season ticket, yes he does +1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patred44 Posted 1 September, 2010 Share Posted 1 September, 2010 on twitter...... solentsport #Saintsfc keeper Kelvin Davis said to written press "i've never been at a club where everyone likes the manager"... Response to unrest talk That may be true, but players very rarely move to club without having respect for, and liking the manager. As nearly all the squad were bought in by Pardew in the last year, you can safely say the majority of the players liked him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintNeil90 Posted 1 September, 2010 Share Posted 1 September, 2010 on twitter...... solentsport #Saintsfc keeper Kelvin Davis said to written press "i've never been at a club where everyone likes the manager"... Response to unrest talk Meaning that some people didnt like him or that everyone actually did like him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 1 September, 2010 Share Posted 1 September, 2010 Meaning that some people didnt like him or that everyone actually did like him? Some people didn't like him. Without knowing the reasons why though the quote is meaningless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dune Posted 1 September, 2010 Share Posted 1 September, 2010 I agree with Gemmel. We don't trust you Nicola and we don't like you and we don't think you know what you're doing. Lets see some more of you/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Footballfan Posted 1 September, 2010 Share Posted 1 September, 2010 The first thing NC should do is give us all our money back for last nights game, then he needs to start telling us whats going on at our club, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deano6 Posted 1 September, 2010 Share Posted 1 September, 2010 Fair Play Dean - Now Your Time Nicola Thanks very much mate. I do try my best. Now I think it is time we heard from Nicola. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david in sweden Posted 1 September, 2010 Share Posted 1 September, 2010 " QUOTE : Now it's your turn Nicola, you are the Chief Exe and your business is in trouble. You have created this situation and you need to explain your reasoning. It might be completely justified, but doubt and confusion lead to division and failure - We've been there before and there's no winners. Forget it!... it won't happen. Cortese's management training hasn't taught him to do that sort of thing. Leaders in any branch of work need authority. In banking ..it's obedience and following instructions. Footballers respond best by showing respect for the manager..it's not the same thing. Cortese sacking of Pardew after a 4-0 away win will go down in the Guiness Book of Records as the most unlikely sacking in football history. This action resembles a script from a Martin Scorcese film more than a directive from Nicola Cortese! For whatever reason Cortese has obviously been waiting for a moment to sack Pardew..(and the week after winning the JPT wasn't appropriate)..but even more damning is the fact that he didn't have plans for a new man in place by lunchtime on Monday. Even if he were right to sack AP, and even if things do " come out in the wash " his actions in the next few days will show how much of a " Saints fan" he is, or if he has " taken up the robe of RL" . AP successor had better have a good dressing room style and a thick skin if he is to succeed this season. The media suggestion of Paul Hart is almost worse than the sacking of AP !..Here is a man who saw over the demise of our near neighbours and himself looks set to replay the role of " the ghost of Harry past ". Merely being an ex-Pom**y manager is already a yellow card in the eyes of many fans..and a few bad results at the start only serve to make him a " dead man walking" . If PH chooses to sign some of the deadbeats from his former Pompey days..that will only rub more salt in the wound. I don't know what Marcus Liebherr had in mind for this season, but he surely must be turning in his grave (said with all due respect for a wonderful benefactor) ..to see the outcome in such a short time. I've been a Saints fan for 51 years, Nicola Cortese.. I only hope that you find the right formula for success now... because L2 is a very dismal place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadoldgit Posted 1 September, 2010 Share Posted 1 September, 2010 Just a thought, but I wonder what peoples reactions would be if Pardew had still been in charge tonight, and the same result ( 0-3 ) would have occured. Would we still be saying Cortese was a p***k then. JUst a thought, but do you think we would have lost 3-0 if Pardew was still here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david in sweden Posted 1 September, 2010 Share Posted 1 September, 2010 JUst a thought, but do you think we would have lost 3-0 if Pardew was still here? Personally, I don't think that we would have lost 0-3 if AP had still been with SFC...(I know it's easy to say that , but ...) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Saint Posted 1 September, 2010 Share Posted 1 September, 2010 I am not a f u c k ing customer. I am a loyal supporter. Cortese is a ****. Well seeing as SFC is a "for profit" organisation and you paid money to them that makes you a customer, a bit like paying your subs on here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lethallee Posted 1 September, 2010 Share Posted 1 September, 2010 I just heard Dean Wilkins interview on Solent. I wasn't at the match so not going to judge his thoughts on how we played (He thought we played well) but impressed he came out and took it on the chin, didn't dodge the questions and was upfront and honest. Can't of been that honest if he actually thought we played well !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Fan CaM Posted 1 September, 2010 Share Posted 1 September, 2010 Can't of been that honest if he actually thought we played well !! Absolutely. My feelings are that Mr Wilkins is still at Saints because he didn't offer to follow AP out the door and NC therefore gave him the job of holding things together - i.e. he is in NC's pocket. The story about a Martin is another indication. The start handed to Guly is another. Case closed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
croydonsaint Posted 1 September, 2010 Share Posted 1 September, 2010 Cortese did cost us last nights game. I can only hope he can pay us back by recruiting the right manager very quickly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liquidshokk Posted 1 September, 2010 Share Posted 1 September, 2010 The first thing NC should do is give us all our money back for last nights game, then he needs to start telling us whats going on at our club, Cortese did cost us last nights game. I can only hope he can pay us back by recruiting the right manager very quickly. Seriously think they should re refunding everyones tickets from last night. Cortese himself must see how much we as fans were raped last night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRichmond Posted 1 September, 2010 Share Posted 1 September, 2010 I agree, Cortese should be open and honest about why Pardew was sacked and what will happen next. I still feel that the Pardew sacking was decided some time ago So far, from a "Business" angle, everything Cortese has done (good or bad) has been 100% Professional But the big IF is this If Pardew's sacking was as a result of an argument between Pardew and Cortese over Antonio, and Cortese did it right there and then, then that was a completely UN professional decision So, if Cortese has got rid of Pardew, without having someone lined up already, then in my book, he is an idiot IMHO, his Five Year Plan is in tatters. I think that this is the first sign of Cortese paving the way for his own exit, without any guarentees of a Buyer on the horizon THE WHEELS HAVE COME OFF BIG TIME Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waggy Posted 1 September, 2010 Share Posted 1 September, 2010 +1000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 Cortese has a lot of explaining to do. Best he keeps his ****ing pie hole closed and gets us a top-flight manager in before the colchester game. Don't **** with our club Cortese boy. Get it sorted. there speaks the voice of reason? Ever thought that AP could have been complicit in his own dismissal? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRichmond Posted 1 September, 2010 Share Posted 1 September, 2010 Cortese did cost us last nights game. I can only hope he can pay us back by recruiting the right manager very quickly. Don't hold your breath, Cortese knows even less about football than Lowe We will get the "Pits" IMHO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Julian H. Cope Posted 1 September, 2010 Share Posted 1 September, 2010 As someone whos paid nearly £400 for a season ticket, yes he does Erm, you've bought a season ticket not a share of the club. Until then he can pretty much do what he likes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alanh Posted 1 September, 2010 Share Posted 1 September, 2010 Nice idea, and it would go someway towards appeasing the unrest that is happening at the moment. In reality though this is unlikely to happen as I am sure there is a confidentiality agreement of some sort, also a statement from Cortese is likely to raise more questions from fans and will never satisfy those fans who supported AP. Think about every other managerial removal - there is rarely full public disclosure of the facts behind the decision. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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