Congratulations on the 3 points

[tartanowl]

Well done on the victory. I must be honest I expected you to be a lot better though. The reality of it was you were just as bad as us but you came away with the points. Neither side looked threatening, both created little, and it took an absolute bombscare bit of defending to gift you your goal.

 

It was an awful game of football between 2 very poor and out of confidence sides. On that showing neither of us are going to be anywhere near the top 2 places. Maybe this will be the catalyst for your season, but like us you have a lot of improving to do. IMO that game had 0-0 written all over it. It was always going to be a mistake or a penalty that led to any goal. Nobody looked like creating a goal from open play.

 

I'm gutted I don't know where we go from here. We look a very poor side again and very reminiscent of last season. 4 losses on the bounce, we have severe problems.

 

I hope you enjoyed your visit to Sheffield and didn't encounter any bother on the way home. I look forward to the return tie at St Marys.

[scott_saints]

u lost. lolz

[Sheff Saint]

Well done on the victory. I must be honest I expected you to be a lot better though. The reality of it was you were just as bad as us but you came away with the points. Neither side looked threatening, both created little, and it took an absolute bombscare bit of defending to gift you your goal.

 

It was an awful game of football between 2 very poor and out of confidence sides. On that showing neither of us are going to be anywhere near the top 2 places. Maybe this will be the catalyst for your season, but like us you have a lot of improving to do. IMO that game had 0-0 written all over it. It was always going to be a mistake or a penalty that led to any goal. Nobody looked like creating a goal from open play.

 

I'm gutted I don't know where we go from here. We look a very poor side again and very reminiscent of last season. 4 losses on the bounce, we have severe problems.

 

I hope you enjoyed your visit to Sheffield and didn't encounter any bother on the way home. I look forward to the return tie at St Marys.

 

Agree it had 0-0 written all over it. I've not seen us since opening day and i was expecting us to be a a lot less confident than we were. I think if we were full of confidence we would have put the game well out of reach by the hour mark. I was pleasantly surprised by our performance and thought we knocked it around very positively and created good chances.

 

Wednesday were poor though which made our job easier.

[yorkie]

What game were you at? Perhaps a touch of rose tinted glasses but apart from the foul throws we didn't give you very much. The ref did his best to give you a chance to score - and by booking the heart of our team for decent tackles makes me wonder if we weren't playing against 12-men!

 

For a League 1 game it wasn't that bad - but we have played a lot better and lost.

 

I think both teams will be up there after 40-odd games...this may be the start of our season, but Wednesday are suffering what we did last season.

[rick1976.4.38]

cheers tartanowl.it did look like two teams playing without confidence,but with my saints blinkers on ithink we had a slight edge and once llalanna came on there was only going to be one outcome.was disappointed in the home support but wish you luck for the rest of the season.thanks for the parking details

[benjii]

I always temper my congratulations to other teams with a cautionary side-swipe too.

[Saint Fan CaM]

I think both our seasons have stuttered but for completely different reasons. For us it's been a poor close season and the untimely loss of a Manager, but the team has held together and it's just a matter of time before we show our quality again. For you lot I'm afraid coming down into this league will be a big shock to some players - it's not the walk-over many of your fans would think it would be and the dreadful support shown at the game (more boos than applause) will only accentuate the fact. I fancy your chances a lot less than ours in terms of sorting out the rot to be perfectly honest.

[Professor]

Not sure about the 0-0 projection. Surely Saints had enough chances for one or two more to have been taken. We've also heard how Kelvin saved us at the end from one or even two clear chances, so any result from a 2-2 draw to a one goal win either way looks like it could have been possible.

 

What is worrying from the Owls fan's assessment is that it highlights the fact that the 1-0 to us could quite easily have been a 1-0 the other way, if Barnard hadn't got that one chance just over the keeper, and if Kelvin had not made the incredible stop at the end. Had it gone that way, we would now be bottom.

 

IMHO Adkins will be well aware of this and will not be complacent just because the result went our way. This win doesn't reduce the need for new players in the squad and to make a real difference we need one or two who will be first choice selections, not just more squad players. But will Cortese agree to fund the loans?

[rick1976.4.38]

with markus passing have we really got the funds,maybe his family dont have the same feeling for us as he did,and are not willing to to carry on funding the club.

[SaintNeil90]

Not sure about the 0-0 projection. Surely Saints had enough chances for one or two more to have been taken. We've also heard how Kelvin saved us at the end from one or even two clear chances, so any result from a 2-2 draw to a one goal win either way looks like it could have been possible.

 

What is worrying from the Owls fan's assessment is that it highlights the fact that the 1-0 to us could quite easily have been a 1-0 the other way, if Barnard hadn't got that one chance just over the keeper, and if Kelvin had not made the incredible stop at the end. Had it gone that way, we would now be bottom.

 

IMHO Adkins will be well aware of this and will not be complacent just because the result went our way. This win doesn't reduce the need for new players in the squad and to make a real difference we need one or two who will be first choice selections, not just more squad players. But will Cortese agree to fund the loans?

 

If we didn't score 4 goals at Bristol and they actually scored 4 goals, then we would have lost 4-0, not won 4-0!

[SaintNeil90]

Dont agree with both teams being as bad as each other. We defended well, Wednesday didnt. I lost count of the amount of stray passes and **** ups the Wednesday midfield made. Apart from the foul throws, we didnt put a foot wrong.

[Wes Tender]

So what happened to that Sheffield Wednesday team that was better than ours, tartanowl? I wasn't at the match and only listened on the radio, which naturally had an element of bias. But it seems that once we had scored and especially after Lallana had come on, the team received a big lift and were playing with more confidence. On the other hand, I could hear your fans booing, which won't be helpful for that game or the next ones unless you turn things around. Although we can point to several factors that might have caused our dip in form, the death of ML, the change of manager, the injury to Lallana, Barnard's ban, Lambert being off colour, presumably apart from your precarious financial position, there is little else to account for your poor run of form that would equate to ours, is there?

 

Now we have the win and against a team that is expected to be amongst the top in the division this season, our confidence will have received a massive boost. Nigel Adkins seems to be well liked and respected by the players and there are signs that we are going to be playing a more attractive brand of football with fit players under him. Barnard will now be much more confident and hopefully Lambert will start firing on all cylinders too. Lallana makes a bigger difference to us than many realise and if he can stay fit, we should start to climb the table.

[Turkish]

Not sure about the 0-0 projection. Surely Saints had enough chances for one or two more to have been taken. We've also heard how Kelvin saved us at the end from one or even two clear chances, so any result from a 2-2 draw to a one goal win either way looks like it could have been possible.

 

What is worrying from the Owls fan's assessment is that it highlights the fact that the 1-0 to us could quite easily have been a 1-0 the other way, if Barnard hadn't got that one chance just over the keeper, and if Kelvin had not made the incredible stop at the end. Had it gone that way, we would now be bottom.

 

IMHO Adkins will be well aware of this and will not be complacent just because the result went our way. This win doesn't reduce the need for new players in the squad and to make a real difference we need one or two who will be first choice selections, not just more squad players. But will Cortese agree to fund the loans?

 

What stupidly pointless negativity this is. If Barnard two shots had been a bit lower and hadn't hit the woodwork twice instead against Orient we'd have won 3-1 and would be midtable now, if Harding had cleared the ball properly against Plymouth they'd never have scored and we'd have another point, If Fonte had cleared the ball properly and Rochdales midfielder hadn't scored the goal of his life, that game would have been 0-0 too, unless Puncheon hadn't missed a sitter and scored instead and we'd have won 1-0, if The ref had given a free kick for the nudge in the back on Fonte at Swindon that'd have finished 0-0, if all of that had happened we'd have 15 points, be third in the table and be unbeaten. If RL and AL had been fully fit all season we might have created more chances and score more so won all those games and would now be on 24 points and top.

[suewhistle]

Thanks for the comments TO, it's always good to get a different perspective but I'm going to have to go with the reports biased for Saints!;-)

[Nexstar]

If i'm honest, I expected you to be a lot better too. I didn't think we were as bad as each other, I thought Saints were strong upfront and particularly solid at the back when under pressure. Both teams had a number of chances but Wednesday were wasteful with corners and long passes in particular.

 

It would be difficult to say what happens next for Sheff Wed after 4 straight defeats, but for Saints it's seems we are on the up. Roll on Tuesday!

[benjii]

What stupidly pointless negativity this is. If Barnard two shots had been a bit lower and hadn't hit the woodwork twice instead against Orient we'd have won 3-1 and would be midtable now, if Harding had cleared the ball properly against Plymouth they'd never have scored and we'd have another point, If Fonte had cleared the ball properly and Rochdales midfielder hadn't scored the goal of his life, that game would have been 0-0 too, unless Puncheon hadn't missed a sitter and scored instead and we'd have won 1-0, if The ref had given a free kick for the nudge in the back on Fonte at Swindon that'd have finished 0-0, if all of that had happened we'd have 15 points, be third in the table and be unbeaten. If RL and AL had been fully fit all season we might have created more chances and score more so won all those games and would now be on 24 points and top.

 

Indeed. I am constantly bemused by the suggestions on here that performances have dipped massively from last season. They haven't. We've just missed chances and have been hit by the fact that several players have made mistakes at the same time, whereas last year someone would have stepped up and got the team the result. A good run is around the corner. Quite simply, we are better than most teams in this division and have been the better side in nearly every match this season.

[benjii]

with markus passing have we really got the funds,maybe his family dont have the same feeling for us as he did,and are not willing to to carry on funding the club.

 

That was obviously a concern but then why would the club bother stating that funding was still in place and the family were supportive if that wasn't the case? It would have been the perfect opportunity to pull back if they wanted - people would have been disappointed but they would have understood.

 

There is no reason to doubt we are still strong financially IMO.

[Toadhall Saint]

Indeed. I am constantly bemused by the suggestions on here that performances have dipped massively from last season. They haven't. We've just missed chances and have been hit by the fact that several players have made mistakes at the same time, whereas last year someone would have stepped up and got the team the result. A good run is around the corner. Quite simply, we are better than most teams in this division and have been the better side in nearly every match this season.

 

You mean an Antonio or a Papa Waigo? ;-)

[Turkish]

Indeed. I am constantly bemused by the suggestions on here that performances have dipped massively from last season. They haven't. We've just missed chances and have been hit by the fact that several players have made mistakes at the same time, whereas last year someone would have stepped up and got the team the result. A good run is around the corner. Quite simply, we are better than most teams in this division and have been the better side in nearly every match this season.

 

We haven't been playing well but on reflection yesterdays game was ideal for us, away at team in a similar situation to us, a big club with massive expectation playing badly and the home crowd on their back if things aren't going their way. I really believed all we need was one win to kick us off, we have the best first XI in this league when they are playing well, if we can get a result at Yeovil we then go into the Bournemouth game on a bit of run and with some confidence, that is how quickly things can change in football.

The point i was making above was that it is easy and stupid to say, if this, this and this had or hadn't happened the result would have been different, of course it would but you can say that about any game anywhere! Like Prefessors negative comments that it was worrying that if Barnard hadn't scored and Davis hadn't made the save at the end we would have lost 1-0 rather than won 1-0, but then you could say if their keeper didn't make a great save from Lambert then we could have won 2-0.

[Toadhall Saint]

If's count for nothing.

[saintscottofthenortham]

with markus passing have we really got the funds,maybe his family dont have the same feeling for us as he did,and are not willing to to carry on funding the club.

 

FFS... How many times??? Can we just sticky a message for all these people who fail to get the far kin message that the family are CONTINUING Markus's passion. FFS I am bored senseless of hearing the same thing over and over and over. GET THE FAR KIN MESSAGE!!!!

[scotty]

What stupidly pointless negativity this is. If Barnard two shots had been a bit lower and hadn't hit the woodwork twice instead against Orient we'd have won 3-1 and would be midtable now, if Harding had cleared the ball properly against Plymouth they'd never have scored and we'd have another point, If Fonte had cleared the ball properly and Rochdales midfielder hadn't scored the goal of his life, that game would have been 0-0 too, unless Puncheon hadn't missed a sitter and scored instead and we'd have won 1-0, if The ref had given a free kick for the nudge in the back on Fonte at Swindon that'd have finished 0-0, if all of that had happened we'd have 15 points, be third in the table and be unbeaten. If RL and AL had been fully fit all season we might have created more chances and score more so won all those games and would now be on 24 points and top.

 

..and the c*nt is correct, for once.....

[the colonel]

Tartan....it might help if your fans showed some sign of support, other than a few up on the left there wasn't a dickie bird from your lot. Owls sing the blues (how embarrassing is that), Saints reply 'What the fecking hell was that'.....Perhaps it would be better or you to sing 'Singing the Blues' at the end of your games....oooops sorry there wasn't any of you left. It is a bit sad how you all sing and clap along to your PA system then sit down in silence once the football starts.

[rick1976.4.38]

FFS... How many times??? Can we just sticky a message for all these people who fail to get the far kin message that the family are CONTINUING Markus's passion. FFS I am bored senseless of hearing the same thing over and over and over. GET THE FAR KIN MESSAGE!!!!

 

i have got the message but the doubts are there and how do you know they want to continue,plus there are are probably plenty of legal issues for his estate to be sorted till saints are put in the frame.so calm down and get over yourself,the site is for opinions and thoughts and those are mine ffs

[RedArmy]

If Fonte had cleared the ball properly and Rochdales midfielder hadn't scored the goal of his life, that game would have been 0-0 too,

Wasn't it 0-1 at that point?

[Toadhall Saint]

FFS... How many times??? Can we just sticky a message for all these people who fail to get the far kin message that the family are CONTINUING Markus's passion. FFS I am bored senseless of hearing the same thing over and over and over. GET THE FAR KIN MESSAGE!!!!

 

http://www.saintsweb.co.uk/content.php?37-Cortese-Statement

[benjii]

You mean an Antonio or a Papa Waigo? ;-)

 

Or a Lambert, Lallana or Connolly. Or Puncheon. Or even Harding. Or Hammond... that's just the way it goes.

[benjii]

We haven't been playing well but on reflection yesterdays game was ideal for us, away at team in a similar situation to us, a big club with massive expectation playing badly and the home crowd on their back if things aren't going their way. I really believed all we need was one win to kick us off, we have the best first XI in this league when they are playing well, if we can get a result at Yeovil we then go into the Bournemouth game on a bit of run and with some confidence, that is how quickly things can change in football.

The point i was making above was that it is easy and stupid to say, if this, this and this had or hadn't happened the result would have been different, of course it would but you can say that about any game anywhere! Like Prefessors negative comments that it was worrying that if Barnard hadn't scored and Davis hadn't made the save at the end we would have lost 1-0 rather than won 1-0, but then you could say if their keeper didn't make a great save from Lambert then we could have won 2-0.

 

Yes, I agree.

[Legod Third Coming]

Indeed. I am constantly bemused by the suggestions on here that performances have dipped massively from last season. They haven't. We've just missed chances and have been hit by the fact that several players have made mistakes at the same time, whereas last year someone would have stepped up and got the team the result. A good run is around the corner. Quite simply, we are better than most teams in this division and have been the better side in nearly every match this season.

 

I agree. A lot of our fans seem to watch the Champion's League and then come along to our games and moan about the quality of the football. We are as good as this league - slightly better, which is why we'll win it.

 

If our players could hit every pass, make every tackle, stay onside every time and play with pace and vision - guess what?

 

They wouldn't be in our fecking league would they? Doh...

 

We are a LEAGUE ONE side - not Arsenal. Sorry to burst a few bubbles.

[shurlock]

Damned praise from a sore loser - we created some very good chances from open play and should have put you out of your misery long before your couple of half-chances at the end.

 

We did have to soak up some pressure from set-pieces in part because the ref was trigger-happy with the whistle but there was a world of difference between what we created and what you created.

 

This performance was not LIKE some of our other performances, except that yesterday luck went our way and we scored as Turkish implies. Yesterday's perforamnce was objectively better building on many of the positives from the 2nd half against Colchester. A long way to go but NA is starting to put his ideas in place.

Edited 26 September, 2010 by shurlock

[shurlock]

I agree. A lot of our fans seem to watch the Champion's League and then come along to our games and moan about the quality of the football. We are as good as this league - slightly better, which is why we'll win it.

 

If our players could hit every pass, make every tackle, stay onside every time and play with pace and vision - guess what?

 

They wouldn't be in our fecking league would they? Doh...

 

We are a LEAGUE ONE side - not Arsenal. Sorry to burst a few bubbles.

 

True but only to an extent - i agree that its easy to overstate the difference between this season's start and last season's results that papered over many cracks but i think you underestimate how far Nigel Adkins is looking to change how we set up and get us to pass the ball, something he emphasised in yest's solent interview. We will never play like Arsenal and we don't need to but we may have a bit more width, composure and variety in our play that gives us options going forward and affords us possession when we need to close a game.

[saintsforlife7]

Sorry Tartan but I don't agree, apart from three late saves Kelvin didn't have much to do, and I thought we created numerous chances. Lambert had a header fantastically saved by Weaver first half and Barnard could have tapped one in after he put one over the bar, Lallana could have also tapped one in after he came on and CHambo had a few efforts. To say we were poor is a little bitter imo. You were not good at all but you still made a game of it. However, if we had a little bit more luck we could have been out of sight by 80 minutes when your pressure told, not that many of your fans would have seen that as they'd boo'd and left by then anyway

[Legod Third Coming]

True but only to an extent - i agree that its easy to overstate the difference between this season's start and last season's results that papered over many cracks but i think you underestimate how far Nigel Adkins is looking to change how we set up and get us to pass the ball, something he emphasised in yest's solent interview. We will never play like Arsenal and we don't need to but we may have a bit more width, composure and variety in our play that gives us options going forward and affords us possession when we need to close a game.

 

We had this for most of last season - certainly from October onwards. Just because Adkins wants width, he'll still struggle against teams who deny us space on the ball. I remember watching us demolish a couple of teams last season thinking that we were playing some really good football. And at other times we won playing some really poor stuff but still good enough to win. That's League One football - inconsistency is bred into the standard of the league. Even Norwich had some shocking results. We were and are good enough to win this league quite comfortably. There were no cracks from October onwards, our form tells you this FACTUALLY. To say otherwise is to say that Norwich and Leeds also had papered over cracks.

[Window Cleaner]

Sorry Tartan but I don't agree, apart from three late saves Kelvin didn't have much to do, and I thought we created numerous chances. Lambert had a header fantastically saved by Weaver first half and Barnard could have tapped one in after he put one over the bar, Lallana could have also tapped one in after he came on and CHambo had a few efforts. To say we were poor is a little bitter imo. You were not good at all but you still made a game of it. However, if we had a little bit more luck we could have been out of sight by 80 minutes when your pressure told, not that many of your fans would have seen that as they'd boo'd and left by then anyway

 

Anyway if you read their forum the uber poster says that the difference was our central midfield pair who shackled whatever they had completely and pushed our attack forward all the time;as I keep telling you all,you'd have to look hard in this division to find a midfield pair like ours;although many of our fans just can't see that.

[benjii]

We had this for most of last season - certainly from October onwards. Just because Adkins wants width, he'll still struggle against teams who deny us space on the ball. I remember watching us demolish a couple of teams last season thinking that we were playing some really good football. And at other times we won playing some really poor stuff but still good enough to win. That's League One football - inconsistency is bred into the standard of the league. Even Norwich had some shocking results. We were and are good enough to win this league quite comfortably. There were no cracks from October onwards, our form tells you this FACTUALLY. To say otherwise is to say that Norwich and Leeds also had papered over cracks.

 

Agree.

 

I remember when we beat Charlton in the cup last season (I think somewhere near the start of our really good run) and everyone was on here creaming themselves about how well we played. We played ok but it was the same direct style of play that often got lambasted when we didn't win - the difference was that we put our chances away and Charlton were ****e.

 

Against Leyton Orient this season we played some of the best football I've seen us play for years in the first half, much more attractive and also incisive, but we didn't win and so the muppets booed.

 

I don't understand the negativity - we might come up a bit short of first or second place this season which is worse than expected but we still have every chance of promotion and until that looks unlikely we have lots to be positive about.

[shurlock]

We had this for most of last season - certainly from October onwards. Just because Adkins wants width, he'll still struggle against teams who deny us space on the ball. I remember watching us demolish a couple of teams last season thinking that we were playing some really good football. And at other times we won playing some really poor stuff but still good enough to win. That's League One football - inconsistency is bred into the standard of the league. Even Norwich had some shocking results. We were and are good enough to win this league quite comfortably. There were no cracks from October onwards, our form tells you this FACTUALLY. To say otherwise is to say that Norwich and Leeds also had papered over cracks.

 

By cracks, I meant our dependence on Lallana's flair and Lambert's ability to win things in the air combined with the lack of goals and movement from midfield to compensate for those two players. We were incredibly lucky that both maintained such a rich vein of form and stayed free of injury - take that away and we struggle. Yesterday was the first time in a long time we created chances on the deck, in the air, down the middle and on the flanks - with and without Lambert (and largely without since he's getting better but still off last season's form). For instance, before yesterday, when did Schneiderlin last get an assist?

 

Likewise the way we kept possession of the ball and yesterday after we went 1 up was a break from our away performance last season where having taken the lead in tight matches, we might have hoofed the ball and just invited teams onto us. Even Pardew admitted turnover of the ball without remedying it or even realising it was an inherent feature in the way he set us up to play.

[Gemmel]

FFS... How many times??? Can we just sticky a message for all these people who fail to get the far kin message that the family are CONTINUING Markus's passion. FFS I am bored senseless of hearing the same thing over and over and over. GET THE FAR KIN MESSAGE!!!!

tttttt

 

Keep telling yourself and you might believe it....ohh you do already.

 

Forget Nicolas statement, we are lacking in depth, but no money spent on the team. A billionares estate is not dealt with over night, it will take months before we know who the real owner is and even longer to see any cash put out way. What ever we've got is a legacy from Marcus, nothing more. The Liebherr family alreay own an Austrian football club, for all the words I doubt if we will see the level of investment, that Marcus gave us.

[Windmill Arm 2]

well done on the victory. I must be honest i expected you to be a lot better though. The reality of it was you were just as bad as us but you came away with the points. Neither side looked threatening, both created little, and it took an absolute bombscare bit of defending to gift you your goal.

 

It was an awful game of football between 2 very poor and out of confidence sides. On that showing neither of us are going to be anywhere near the top 2 places. Maybe this will be the catalyst for your season, but like us you have a lot of improving to do. Imo that game had 0-0 written all over it. It was always going to be a mistake or a penalty that led to any goal. Nobody looked like creating a goal from open play.

 

I'm gutted i don't know where we go from here. We look a very poor side again and very reminiscent of last season. 4 losses on the bounce, we have severe problems.

 

I hope you enjoyed your visit to sheffield and didn't encounter any bother on the way home. I look forward to the return tie at st marys.

fook right off you bitter northern monkey !!!

[Legod Third Coming]

By cracks, I meant our dependence on Lallana's flair and Lambert's ability to win things in the air combined with the lack of goals and movement from midfield to compensate for those two players. We were incredibly lucky that both maintained such a rich vein of form and stayed free of injury - take that away and we struggle. Yesterday was the first time in a long time we created chances on the deck, in the air, down the middle and on the flanks - with and without Lambert (and largely without since he's getting better but still off last season's form). For instance, before yesterday, when did Schneiderlin last get an assist?

 

Likewise the way we kept possession of the ball and yesterday after we went 1 up was a break from our away performance last season where having taken the lead in tight matches, we might have hoofed the ball and just invited teams onto us. Even Pardew admitted turnover of the ball without remedying it or even realising it was an inherent feature in the way he set us up to play.

 

I still think what you describe is a League One side. The games we won 5-0 in March and 5-1 in April, we created and BURIED chances from everywhere.

 

I do not doubt Adkins can be successful. It is way too early to assess whether he will be as good as manager as Pardew or to credit him with having solved problems which, in reality, I believe were simply the inconsistency that comes with being a League One side.

 

This was our form from March last year to the end of the season: WLWLWWWDWWWWDWLW

 

In fact we lost just three times in the league in 2010. We were unbeaten in any competition in January and lost only to Portsmouth in February.

 

This is outstanding form.

 

I wonder how many teams in any league had better results.

[Arizona]

Appreciate your comments TO, although I think you're being a tad biased with your 'equally poor' view of the game. I think Saints were clearly the better side. Not great, but definitely worth the three points. In the first half we created some excellent chances from open play, which on another day could have yielded at least a couple of goals. All Wednesday seemed to have were set pieces, which seemed in limitless supply from Homer the ref.

 

Second half was a similar story, but we seemed to grow in confidence after we scored and kept the ball well in Owl territory. Apart from the two shots, in what seemed like the 8th minute of injury time (despite no injuries), there really wasn't much from Wednesday. I try to be as honnest as possible and will readily admit when a team has equalled or bettered Saints, but Wednesday just didn't.

[Pancake]

I still cant believe that a Sheff Weds fan has PAID to post on here....

[buctootim]

I still cant believe that a Sheff Weds fan has PAID to post on here....

 

Owls fan pays to post nice things about Saints on here. Some Saints fans ***** incessantly about the club and wont pay. Odd.

[Mowgli]

Tartan....it might help if your fans showed some sign of support, other than a few up on the left there wasn't a dickie bird from your lot. Owls sing the blues (how embarrassing is that), Saints reply 'What the fecking hell was that'.....Perhaps it would be better or you to sing 'Singing the Blues' at the end of your games....oooops sorry there wasn't any of you left. It is a bit sad how you all sing and clap along to your PA system then sit down in silence once the football starts.

 

To be fair, you could not hear the Saints fans much outside of the Lepping Lane end - it's that sort of ground really. And it's a bit rich to knock the fans doing exactly what we've been doing at SMS - booing the team and walking out early when things don't go right! At the end of the day these are two good teams that will both be up there at the end of the season. On our lat win (4-0 at Bristol) the Owls won 5-1 away to Hartlepool (I think...). We've managed to get the rub of the green on Saturday by sheer hard work and it will come for Wednesday too - hopefully tomorrow night. We deserved our win Saturday but only just. Their dead ball attempts (one in each half) were pure quality. Shame they had Kelvin to face!

[saintwiz]

Well done on the victory. I must be honest I expected you to be a lot better though. The reality of it was you were just as bad as us but you came away with the points. Neither side looked threatening, both created little, and it took an absolute bombscare bit of defending to gift you your goal.

 

It was an awful game of football between 2 very poor and out of confidence sides. On that showing neither of us are going to be anywhere near the top 2 places. Maybe this will be the catalyst for your season, but like us you have a lot of improving to do. IMO that game had 0-0 written all over it. It was always going to be a mistake or a penalty that led to any goal. Nobody looked like creating a goal from open play.

 

I'm gutted I don't know where we go from here. We look a very poor side again and very reminiscent of last season. 4 losses on the bounce, we have severe problems.

 

I hope you enjoyed your visit to Sheffield and didn't encounter any bother on the way home. I look forward to the return tie at St Marys.

 

did you have some pigeon **** in your eye....

[.comsaint]

I still cant believe that a Sheff Weds fan has PAID to post on here....

 

He's lucky he managed to. Whenever I try to pay my fiver via Paypal - it asks for credit card details of a further card (WTF???) . . . so I can't be arsed.

[The Cat]

To be fair, you could not hear the Saints fans much outside of the Lepping Lane end - it's that sort of ground really. And it's a bit rich to knock the fans doing exactly what we've been doing at SMS - booing the team and walking out early when things don't go right! At the end of the day these are two good teams that will both be up there at the end of the season. On our lat win (4-0 at Bristol) the Owls won 5-1 away to Hartlepool (I think...). We've managed to get the rub of the green on Saturday by sheer hard work and it will come for Wednesday too - hopefully tomorrow night. We deserved our win Saturday but only just. Their dead ball attempts (one in each half) were pure quality. Shame they had Kelvin to face!

 

Agree about the walking out early. In the Colchester game there were streams of people leaving St Mary's before 85 mins. The numpties.

 

The one difference I noticed in the booing on Saturday was the Wednesday fans letting rip with the boos after every good Saints attack finished in the second half. Our booing is pretty much saved for the end of the game. I found it strange that at times they were booing their team after Saints had built a decent attack. It wasn't always the Wednesday players fault, just good football from us.

 

Their performance was summed up by the hilarious moment in the second half when their 2 CB's collided with each other and fell over.

[Lallana's Left Peg]

I think some of the Sheffield Wednesday booing was also directed at their Board, which was irrespective of how the team was doing - although they did start to jump on the team a little.

 

Sheffield Wednesday's left back was terrible.

[The Cat]

I think some of the Sheffield Wednesday booing was also directed at their Board, which was irrespective of how the team was doing - although they did start to jump on the team a little.

 

Sheffield Wednesday's left back was terrible.

 

Good point, Big demonstration afterwards as well.

 

Their RB in the second half was gash too!

[Mowgli]

Their performance was summed up by the hilarious moment in the second half when their 2 CB's collided with each other and fell over.

 

Yes that was a real Keystone Cops moment. Made us laugh!

[tartanowl]

What game were you at? Perhaps a touch of rose tinted glasses but apart from the foul throws we didn't give you very much. The ref did his best to give you a chance to score - and by booking the heart of our team for decent tackles makes me wonder if we weren't playing against 12-men!

 

For a League 1 game it wasn't that bad - but we have played a lot better and lost.

 

I think both teams will be up there after 40-odd games...this may be the start of our season, but Wednesday are suffering what we did last season.

 

Interesting view on the bookings. I can't agree myself. Which ones were you unhappy with and why? True we didn't create much, but either did you. I was expecting a better standard of football and neither side played well, or with the ball on the deck. You won with a mistake from a backpass. It was a poor game.

 

Agree it had 0-0 written all over it. I've not seen us since opening day and i was expecting us to be a a lot less confident than we were. I think if we were full of confidence we would have put the game well out of reach by the hour mark. I was pleasantly surprised by our performance and thought we knocked it around very positively and created good chances.

 

Wednesday were poor though which made our job easier.

 

I'm glad someone agrees with me. I hope the return leg will be a better game of football.

 

cheers tartanowl.it did look like two teams playing without confidence,but with my saints blinkers on ithink we had a slight edge and once llalanna came on there was only going to be one outcome.was disappointed in the home support but wish you luck for the rest of the season.thanks for the parking details

 

No probs with the parking details mate.

 

I always temper my congratulations to other teams with a cautionary side-swipe too.

 

No cautionary swipe. You played poorly but in fairness you did win. I was merely telling the truth.

 

So what happened to that Sheffield Wednesday team that was better than ours, tartanowl? I wasn't at the match and only listened on the radio

 

At what point did I say we played better than you? No offence either but you don't get a proper view of the game on the radio either.

 

If i'm honest, I expected you to be a lot better too. I didn't think we were as bad as each other, I thought Saints were strong upfront and particularly solid at the back when under pressure. Both teams had a number of chances but Wednesday were wasteful with corners and long passes in particular.

 

It would be difficult to say what happens next for Sheff Wed after 4 straight defeats, but for Saints it's seems we are on the up. Roll on Tuesday!

 

Disappointing results for both last night. I think we're both in for a long hard season going from Saturday's display.

 

Thanks for the comments TO, it's always good to get a different perspective but I'm going to have to go with the reports biased for Saints!;-)

 

You're entitled to do that too.

 

Tartan....it might help if your fans showed some sign of support, other than a few up on the left there wasn't a dickie bird from your lot. Owls sing the blues (how embarrassing is that), Saints reply 'What the fecking hell was that'.....Perhaps it would be better or you to sing 'Singing the Blues' at the end of your games....oooops sorry there wasn't any of you left. It is a bit sad how you all sing and clap along to your PA system then sit down in silence once the football starts.

 

To be fair there is a lot of apathy at the club at the moment. Singing the Blues I think was our FA Cup final song in 93. Either that or the League Cup final song for 91. I honestly can't remember which.

 

Anyway, we are far from alone in having a poor support at home. It is a problem throughout football including at your ground. However, our travelling support is bar-none the best in the division. There are a lot of things that can be aimed at our club. Having a poor support is not one of them.

 

Damned praise from a sore loser - we created some very good chances from open play and should have put you out of your misery long before your couple of half-chances at the end.

 

We did have to soak up some pressure from set-pieces in part because the ref was trigger-happy with the whistle but there was a world of difference between what we created and what you created.

 

This performance was not LIKE some of our other performances, except that yesterday luck went our way and we scored as Turkish implies. Yesterday's perforamnce was objectively better building on many of the positives from the 2nd half against Colchester. A long way to go but NA is starting to put his ideas in place.

 

I'm not a sore loser. I accept that you won the game. It doesn't mean that you played well. If you had played well and thoroughly deserved to win I would have said so. IMO you didn't.

 

Sorry Tartan but I don't agree, apart from three late saves Kelvin didn't have much to do, and I thought we created numerous chances. Lambert had a header fantastically saved by Weaver first half and Barnard could have tapped one in after he put one over the bar, Lallana could have also tapped one in after he came on and CHambo had a few efforts. To say we were poor is a little bitter imo. You were not good at all but you still made a game of it. However, if we had a little bit more luck we could have been out of sight by 80 minutes when your pressure told, not that many of your fans would have seen that as they'd boo'd and left by then anyway

 

You were poor. So were we. It was a poor game of football won by a defensive error. You say you created numerous chances.

 

Shots on target:

 

SWFC 8

SFC 6

 

Corners:

 

SWFC 14

SFC 4

 

I know you won on the important one, but I really think there wasn't much in it. It was a poor game with 2 sides not playing well.

 

fook right off you bitter northern monkey !!!

 

I'm not northern, or a monkey, but thanks for your comment anyway.

 

Appreciate your comments TO, although I think you're being a tad biased with your 'equally poor' view of the game. I think Saints were clearly the better side. Not great, but definitely worth the three points. In the first half we created some excellent chances from open play, which on another day could have yielded at least a couple of goals. All Wednesday seemed to have were set pieces, which seemed in limitless supply from Homer the ref.

 

Second half was a similar story, but we seemed to grow in confidence after we scored and kept the ball well in Owl territory. Apart from the two shots, in what seemed like the 8th minute of injury time (despite no injuries), there really wasn't much from Wednesday. I try to be as honnest as possible and will readily admit when a team has equalled or bettered Saints, but Wednesday just didn't.

 

I've explained the points above. I have given an honest opinion too. We'll agree to disagree. I don't think either side deserved to win.

 

I still cant believe that a Sheff Weds fan has PAID to post on here....

 

It's only a fiver? And why not? I was hoping for some good banter this season. Admittedly I hoped and thought we would both be doing better.

 

To be fair, you could not hear the Saints fans much outside of the Lepping Lane end - it's that sort of ground really. And it's a bit rich to knock the fans doing exactly what we've been doing at SMS - booing the team and walking out early when things don't go right! At the end of the day these are two good teams that will both be up there at the end of the season. On our lat win (4-0 at Bristol) the Owls won 5-1 away to Hartlepool (I think...). We've managed to get the rub of the green on Saturday by sheer hard work and it will come for Wednesday too - hopefully tomorrow night. We deserved our win Saturday but only just. Their dead ball attempts (one in each half) were pure quality. Shame they had Kelvin to face!

 

We won 5-0 at Hartlepool not 5-1. I hope you're right with your end of season prediction.

 

I think some of the Sheffield Wednesday booing was also directed at their Board, which was irrespective of how the team was doing - although they did start to jump on the team a little.

 

Sheffield Wednesday's left back was terrible.

 

It was directed at the board.

 

Good point, Big demonstration afterwards as well.

 

Their RB in the second half was gash too!

 

I'm not a fan of Otsemobor either. Luckily he hasn't started many games. Last night was his first league start.