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Just because he has been arrested doesn't mean he wont play :s

 

I think Cortese might have other ideas if it looks like he was a guilty party. Don't think Adkins will be too pleased either at players out on the lash till 3am, even if it is on a Saturday night ..... they are supposed to be athletes and look after their bodies.

 

TBH WTF are players doing in The City Centre pubs, especially ones which have a bit of a reputation. :?

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Interesting he had a hand injury - usually only get those if you hit someone with your fist! Let's hope our players were not too involved and charges are not made to which they have to answer. It does make me wonder - what are "professional" (ahem) sportsmen doing out at that time of night alledgedly (ahem) under the influence of alcohol?

 

I guess the club will make a statement later today?

 

I stand by something I said earlier today elsewhere - if the allegations made in these pages are true - the guilty party (if a Saints player) should never play for Southampton again - we don't want this sort of thug associated with our club!

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Right now I will believe it Lee what were you thinking? I can't see NC standing for this sort of behaviour among our players lee will go straight on the transfer list I would have thought unless he has a really good excuse. We really need to get a loan in quick now we can hardly play Lambert up front on his own given his current form.

 

and what about the other players involved?

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Bournemouth fans in town. Barnard involved in bust up at club. Might the two be connected?

PS you can injure your hand defending yourself or falling over, knee jerk jurors.

And there rests the case for the defence.

In the meantime, someone is seriously injured in hospital with a worried family and friends. Just because a footballer is on Southampton's books doesn't mean he has any common sense, or even that he is particularly bright, so lets see what the facts reveal. If he is guilty, I hope the club sacks him. If not, then I hope he learns a lesson about being a public figure and the need to behave responsibly.

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At least this removes any doubt whatsoever that we need to bring in another quality forward.

 

If Cortese was waivering over whether to splash out more cash on another forward then this incident (if he's found guilty) may well turn around our favour.

 

I know, I know.....clutching at the straws of optimism somewhat but fate is a fickle mistress.

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Posters must be careful not to undertake an internet witch hunt. Let us not forget "innocent until proved guilty" applies in the UK.

 

If you did not see the incident you cannot know the sequence of events or what really happened. If you did see it, you should be talking to the police, not reliving the evidence on here.

 

Let the police conduct their enquiries and if there is a case to answer let the courts hear the evidence and pass judgement.

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Posters must be careful not to undertake an internet witch hunt. Let us not forget "innocent until proved guilty" applies in the UK.

 

If you did not see the incident you cannot know the sequence of events or what really happened. If you did see it, you should be talking to the police, not reliving the evidence on here.

 

Let the police conduct their enquiries and if there is a case to answer let the courts hear the evidence and pass judgement.

 

+1, but its still a lousy way to start the week.

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Posters must be careful not to undertake an internet witch hunt. Let us not forget "innocent until proved guilty" applies in the UK.

 

If you did not see the incident you cannot know the sequence of events or what really happened. If you did see it, you should be talking to the police, not reliving the evidence on here.

 

Let the police conduct their enquiries and if there is a case to answer let the courts hear the evidence and pass judgement.

 

you're right. I'm still dissapointed that players would put themselves in the postion were this could happen though. If they wanted to unwind have a few celebration drinks fine but the city centre after a local derby (I know couldn't think of a better word) when lots of ****ed off away fans would be isn't really using your head is it? why didn't they just go drinking some where like Winchester instead?

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you're right. I'm still dissapointed that players would put themselves in the postion were this could happen though. If they wanted to unwind have a few celebration drinks fine but the city centre after a local derby (I know couldn't think of a better word) when lots of ****ed off away fans would be isn't really using your head is it? why didn't they just go drinking some where like Winchester instead?

 

Winchester???? There are limits, even on here ;)

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This was on Brightons forum at 9 30 last night. Why are we late in finding this.

 

What the f*ck is up with this season. First ML, then AP/NA and now this !!

 

I think youll find there was speculation on here last night, so this morning has just brought confirmation of a rumour doing the rounds. I doubt that Brighton had a more authoritive version last night than we did.

 

Agree about this season thought, it seems jinxed. Time to bring back the Pagan Priestess.

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Good time to go drinking in winchester University has just started the new term (70-30% split in favour of the ladies) lots of lonely 18-21 year old females in winchester right now.

 

being 49 and with the marriage shackles firmly in place that infos not a hell of a lot of use to me mate, but thanks for the thought. And I was joking, winchesters ok, I always liked the Exchange and the Jolly Farmer when I worked up there.

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Interesting he had a hand injury - usually only get those if you hit someone with your fist! Let's hope our players were not too involved and charges are not made to which they have to answer. It does make me wonder - what are "professional" (ahem) sportsmen doing out at that time of night alledgedly (ahem) under the influence of alcohol?

 

I guess the club will make a statement later today?

 

I stand by something I said earlier today elsewhere - if the allegations made in these pages are true - the guilty party (if a Saints player) should never play for Southampton again - we don't want this sort of thug associated with our club!

 

In my experience of such things I am not so sure. I would be more likely to believe that the need for hospital treatment would be because of a blood wound, which can throw the light either way.

 

Whatever, it's poor judgement to be in such a place at such a time for a professional footballer. The odds of drunken club goers having a lash when totally ****ed must be odds-on, especially where footballers with money and females are concerned. If the allegations are true then I believe it's best to get rid of him, but only once we have a suitable replacement in. What's the point in trying to maximise the damage of any stupidity?

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And there rests the case for the defence.

In the meantime, someone is seriously injured in hospital with a worried family and friends. Just because a footballer is on Southampton's books doesn't mean he has any common sense, or even that he is particularly bright, so lets see what the facts reveal. If he is guilty, I hope the club sacks him. If not, then I hope he learns a lesson about being a public figure and the need to behave responsibly.

I am certainly not presenting the case for the defence, merely trying to attend to those who jump to conclusions from a press report. But then, as a 'professor', I am sure you understand that. Not that it shows in any neutrality whatsoever.

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Interesting he had a hand injury - usually only get those if you hit someone with your fist! Let's hope our players were not too involved and charges are not made to which they have to answer. It does make me wonder - what are "professional" (ahem) sportsmen doing out at that time of night alledgedly (ahem) under the influence of alcohol?

 

I guess the club will make a statement later today?

 

I stand by something I said earlier today elsewhere - if the allegations made in these pages are true - the guilty party (if a Saints player) should never play for Southampton again - we don't want this sort of thug associated with our club!

 

I agree. LB is innocent unless proven otherwise, but if he has assaulted someone resulting in serious injury he is a bloody idiot and his immediate playing future should be in doubt.

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We will have to wait and see what the facts are.However he shouldn't have put himself in this position in the 1st place.

 

Agree with that. If he's guilty I think a month or so suspension would be fitting, rather than booting him out of the club like some are suggesting.

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Agree with that. If he's guilty I think a month or so suspension would be fitting, rather than booting him out of the club like some are suggesting.

 

remember the furore about those 2 scratters that went thieving in a p*rtsmouth nightclub? I imagine that if it turns out that LB has lamped somebody all hell will break loose on here

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Posters must be careful not to undertake an internet witch hunt. Let us not forget "innocent until proved guilty" applies in the UK.

 

If you did not see the incident you cannot know the sequence of events or what really happened. If you did see it, you should be talking to the police, not reliving the evidence on here.

 

Let the police conduct their enquiries and if there is a case to answer let the courts hear the evidence and pass judgement.

 

In terms of the arrest of course you are right, but it does not seem to be in dispute that he was out in a night club in the early hours of the morning. That is irresponsible behaviour in itself. When will footballers realise that there is a price to pay for their huge wages and glamorous lifestyle. They are supposed to be sportsmen in training. They can't just behave like young men who happen to be fortunate enough to be rich. Can you imagine any of the athletes that have gone to the commonwealth games being out on the lam during their 'season'?

 

Surely Adkins has rules over players behaviour during the season?

 

K.

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I think saying he should never play for us again at this stage is getting ahead of ourselves a bit. First of all the full story is not yet full known, secondly hundreds of players have been convicted of various crimes at various clubs and they haven't been fired. They caught Steven Gerrard on CCTV punching someone in a bar and nothing more was said about that.

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In terms of the arrest of course you are right, but it does not seem to be in dispute that he was out in a night club in the early hours of the morning. That is irresponsible behaviour in itself. When will footballers realise that there is a price to pay for their huge wages and glamorous lifestyle. They are supposed to be sportsmen in training. They can't just behave like young men who happen to be fortunate enough to be rich. Can you imagine any of the athletes that have gone to the commonwealth games being out on the lam during their 'season'?

 

Surely Adkins has rules over players behaviour during the season?

 

K.

Agree and a valid point to debate. No need for the club to wrap them up in cotton wool but the players themselves should be more responsible. Nightclubbing until early hours may seem a good idea to wind down from the highs of a football match and no one is going to cry foul over a few drinks but they are in the public eye, they must realise that others less fortunate and full of drink might cause trouble and they should be no where near it.
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Stupid thing to do, but come on, never play for Saints again? That is just moronic. Like it or not, most footballers are neanderthal scumbags who go out on the town and do stupid, irresponsible things. Somebody on here last night said they saw Barney out and he'd supposedly "had a skinful", so that may well explain the violence. Everyone has had a drunken punch-up at some point in their lives. NA should try and rope in another striker on loan for the next month until this situation blows over, and keep Barney out of the team until at least after the Tranmere game.

 

Storm in a teacup.

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I would surmise that if Barnard was given 'street bail' then the Police did not suspect him of being involved in the more serious aspects of the disturbance. If he was the one accused of attacking the 27-year-old who was unconscious then he wouldn't have been bailed and instead would have been treated for his hand injury whilst in custody.

My guess is that he, along with the 19 other people who were arrested, will have to surrender his bail at a later date when inquiries have been completed.

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