Dickson

[hypochondriac]

Really been a bit of a disappointment since coming here and hasn't really made the impact I'm sure he hoped he would have done. Isn't better than Harding at left back and isn't really a left midfielder so I can't see him playing regularly this year. I bet the lad is so frustrated because I'm sure I remember when he signed him saying something that he came here to play regularly.

 

I thought at the time he was a very odd signing considering we have Harding but the Brentford fans were adamant that he was better. I hope he comes good.

[Nexstar]

Hasn't really had the gametime to prove himself, but I still reckon he is a good player.

[Katalinic]

I still think it is too early to judge him Hypo and competition is healthy - if and when he gets a chance it should make him more determined to take it. For what it is worth I thought he had a great first half when I saw him against against Plymouth and out in some dangerous crosses. Quite a few people wrote Guly off after about 12 minutes of football in 2 games so you never can tell which way it will go for Dickson.

 

I would imagine Joseph Mills has more to worry about.

[hypochondriac]

They would think he was better, but Harding was a very good left back last season and can play higher. Didn't deserve replacing anyway and will be difficult to shift.

 

Which is why I find it odd that Dickson would come here, especially when there was interest from CCC teams. I would much rather have gone somewhere to get regular playing time. Maybe that is just me though and I don't care so much about money.

[saintscottofthenortham]

Dickson is a very able player. Looked good when he came on against Plymouth and caused havoc when he replaced Lallana at Bristol Rovers. I don't rate Harding as highly as others do and personally I would rather see Dickson in there.

[Genk]

He'll be playing LM when Lallana leave's in January in my opinion

[iansums]

Unfortunately he had a 'mare' 1st half against Bmth, Harding replaced him at half-time. I think that may of knocked his confidence a bit. I'm sure he'll get his chance at some point, personally I think he could be better than Harding.

[hypochondriac]

Dickson is a very able player. Looked good when he came on against Plymouth and caused havoc when he replaced Lallana at Bristol Rovers. I don't rate Harding as highly as others do and personally I would rather see Dickson in there.

 

Hmm. I can't agree with your opinion of Harding. One of my first names on the team sheet most weeks along with Fonte and Lallana.

[Shroppie]

Hmm. I can't agree with your opinion of Harding. One of my first names on the team sheet most weeks along with Fonte and Lallana.

 

I agree. I like Harding and was surprised we got another LB in, particularly as Mills isn't bad cover. But from what I've seem of Dickson he could be an important part of the team - maybe at LM.

[Phil the Saint]

Good player when he gets his chance he will become first choice left back.

[hypochondriac]

Good player when he gets his chance he will become first choice left back.

 

Really? Seems like Adkins prefers Harding at the moment and I'm inclined to agree.

[Saint Fan CaM]

When Harding went through a bit of a problem time at the start of the season, Dickson stepped up to the plate and did quite well. This clearly gave Harding the drive to train harder and up his game. Mind you, this is no real revelation - it's just good management practice putting pressure on the team to perform. I expect Dickson will feature again if Harding gets injured or suspended.

[saintscottofthenortham]

Many opinions will change when he gets a run. Trust me, I'm a gynaecologist.

[hypochondriac]

When Harding went through a bit of a problem time at the start of the season, Dickson stepped up to the plate and did quite well. This clearly gave Harding the drive to train harder and up his game. Mind you, this is no real revelation - it's just good management practice putting pressure on the team to perform. I expect Dickson will feature again if Harding gets injured or suspended.

 

I still think it's a bit of an odd signing though seeing as we had Mills who is more than capable to fill in when required.

[benjii]

Dickson is a very able player. Looked good when he came on against Plymouth and caused havoc when he replaced Lallana at Bristol Rovers. I don't rate Harding as highly as others do and personally I would rather see Dickson in there.

 

Yes, he was very good in that second half.

 

He isn't the finished article as a LB yet but he's young and it's clear to see he has talent and good physical attributes. Good player to have in the squad and will get a chance again at some point.

[benjii]

I still think it's a bit of an odd signing though seeing as we had Mills who is more than capable to fill in when required.

 

It's not odd at all. He is a good player with loads of potential and was cheap.

[corsacar saint]

I can see him replacing Harding,if he is given the chance. He was not in the -League 1 team of last season for no reason.

[Matthew Le God]

He was not in the -League 1 team of last season for no reason.

 

Ryan Dickson was not in the PFA League One team of the season. Ian Harte was the left back for 2009/10.

[hypochondriac]

It's not odd at all. He is a good player with loads of potential and was cheap.

 

I just would have preferred to have seen Mills given a chance as one of our home grown players and maybe spent the money from Dickson on a fast striker or winger.

[Joensuu]

Dickson is a very able player. Looked good when he came on against Plymouth and caused havoc when he replaced Lallana at Bristol Rovers. I don't rate Harding as highly as others do and personally I would rather see Dickson in there.

 

Agree. Harding is good, but I don't get the love-in, he still makes his fair share of mistakes. Dickson comes highly rated, and has shown in patches that he has plenty to offer. At the moment I'd be hard-pressed to choose between them, but the manager can't really drop a player who is doing well. Having Dickson on the bench keeps Harding on his toes.

[scott_saints]

Dickson in for Lallana. F00k that!!

[toofarnorth]

It's not odd at all. He is a good player with loads of potential and was cheap.

 

Wasn't that cheap for this division. Over 200k is a lot for someone who sits on the bench when you consider Barney was 175k.

[hypochondriac]

Wasn't that cheap for this division. Over 200k is a lot for someone who sits on the bench when you consider Barney was 175k.

 

What would you have preferred? 200K on Dickson or on a winger or striker?

[Turkish]

Agree. Harding is good, but I don't get the love-in, he still makes his fair share of mistakes. Dickson comes highly rated, and has shown in patches that he has plenty to offer. At the moment I'd be hard-pressed to choose between them, but the manager can't really drop a player who is doing well. Having Dickson on the bench keeps Harding on his toes.

 

Of course Harding makes mistakes, if he didn't he wouldn't be playing in L1, but he is one of, if not the best left backs in the division. Dickson is a good player but i feel that it is a bit of a waste of talent him sitting on the bench, he is too good for that, Mills was able cover for Harding.

Edited 14 October, 2010 by Turkish

[hypochondriac]

Of course Harding makes mistakes, if he didn't he wouldn't be playing in L1, but he is one of, if not the best left backs in the division. Dickson is a good player but i feel that it is a bit of a waste of talent him sitting on the bench, he is too good for that, Mills was able cover for Dickson.

 

That was really the point I was trying to make. Thanks for clarifying.

[saintscottofthenortham]

That was really the point I was trying to make. Thanks for clarifying.

 

So what you are complaining about is signing someone who waltzed past half of our side, put in a stunning cross to assist an 87th minute equaliser against us because he is too good to be on our bench? I think NA knows that during this bedding in period for the players, it is better to play the lads who know eachother inside out in the side together. So long as Harding carries on playing ad he has the last few weeks, he'll keep his place, but having watched him week in week out for the last year and a bit, I know full well that it won't last forever. Harding has been guilty of many a mistake and bad form. He even managed to look truly horrific in a 5-1 demolition of Walsall. Now that speaks volumes of how bad he can be.

[niceandfriendly]

He hasn't been a disappointment, he just can't get into the team. Whenever he's played he's performed well. I don't consider having good players as back up a negative thing, in fact, quite the opposite.

[Singeon Sears]

I don't think he should be judged just yet, we are far to quick to make assessments on players who have hardly played.

 

Was it a good signing, time will tell, but having 2 of the leagues best left backs competing for one position can only be a good thing for that position and for the club.

 

I appreciate there were and still are other areas that need addressing more so, but if he became available then it strengthens the squad - winning any league is about the squad strength.

[Mowgli]

Really been a bit of a disappointment since coming here and hasn't really made the impact I'm sure he hoped he would have done. Isn't better than Harding at left back and isn't really a left midfielder so I can't see him playing regularly this year. I bet the lad is so frustrated because I'm sure I remember when he signed him saying something that he came here to play regularly.

 

I thought at the time he was a very odd signing considering we have Harding but the Brentford fans were adamant that he was better. I hope he comes good.

 

The whole point is to have competition on every position. When Dickson first came here he said he knew he was back up and would have to work hard to get into the first team but was determined to take his chance when it came. In the event it came a bit early for him and he was played left midfield rather than left back. But he did OK. As someone else said, he did not have a good game against Bournemouth but he has played better since so I don't think it is a confidence thing. Good squad player IMO.

[modern matron]

Wasn't that cheap for this division. Over 200k is a lot for someone who sits on the bench when you consider Barney was 175k.

 

Wasn't Barney on the bench last week - and often last season? I like Dickson and don't understand how bloody Lee Holmes gets off the bench first. He is hopeless!!

[pele]

He will need to change his name to Dan to join our defence!! (Jose's real name is Dan!)

[hypochondriac]

The whole point is to have competition on every position. When Dickson first came here he said he knew he was back up and would have to work hard to get into the first team but was determined to take his chance when it came. In the event it came a bit early for him and he was played left midfield rather than left back. But he did OK. As someone else said, he did not have a good game against Bournemouth but he has played better since so I don't think it is a confidence thing. Good squad player IMO.

 

Yes but my point is I think the money could have been better spent elsewhere.

[NickG]

Holmes and Dickson both, in particularly Holmes, looked excellent coming off bench the other week

[Smirking_Saint]

Dickson is a decent player whenever i have seen him, he has ambition going forward, a testing cross and can defend when needed. More importantly he is young. Holmes is starting to look decent aswell. We are pretty inundated with left sided players atm but i am confident if given game time Dickson will look very good.

 

We could probably do with shifting some of the dead wood IMO. Holmes is probably one of those names, as may Mills be.

[Lighthouse]

I did think when we signed him that it may be a bit of overkill on the left side of the pitch. Aside from Molly, who wouldn't have counted even if he'd stayed we already had Harding, Mills, Lallana and Holmes as left sided player, with Puncheon comfotable enough there if needed. Lallana is a shoe in, which leaves Mills, Dickson and Harding to scrap over the LB spot. Sorry Dan, sorry Fish but Harding is the best bet at the moment. Hopefully he gets a chance to prove himself. Maybe in the FA Cup first round our something, where I'd try out a few fringe players like Holmes, Dickson, Mills, AOC and Bignall.

[Chez]

I like Dickson a lot. Very genuine runner , decent first touch and willing to get to the byeline and crosses well. He has two problems. One he doesn't have real pace which would make him a stamd out fullback and the other is Harding who never ever lets anyone past him ever. I'm glad we signed him because our squad strength has improved because of it. There will come a time when we are very thankful we signed him.

[benjii]

Yes but my point is I think the money could have been better spent elsewhere.

 

FFS we're loaded. It wasn't an either/or scenario.

[benjii]

I like Dickson a lot. Very genuine runner , decent first touch and willing to get to the byeline and crosses well. He has two problems. One he doesn't have real pace which would make him a stamd out fullback and the other is Harding who never ever lets anyone past him ever. I'm glad we signed him because our squad strength has improved because of it. There will come a time when we are very thankful we signed him.

 

He is pretty fast. Motored past players at Bristol Rovers.

[doddisalegend]

From what I've seen of Dickson he has been a bit hit and miss, he looked pretty good when he came on with Holmes as a sub but I remember not being overly impressed by him against plymouth . I said when we signed him I thought there where other areas that the team needed strengthening more than LB. For me Harding is a great LB and Mills did well when called on last season. He could play LM but he is never going to replace a fit Lallana. Still as it seems every PL club is going to buy Adam in January according to the press maybe Dickson will get his chance in the second half of the season.

[Dalek2003]

Holmes is an interesting player, always promises occasionally delivers.

[doddisalegend]

Holmes is an interesting player, always promises occasionally delivers.

 

He does take a decent corner though something many of our players seem to find quite hard.

Edited 14 October, 2010 by doddisalegend

[hypochondriac]

FFS we're loaded. It wasn't an either/or scenario.

 

How do you know? I think we should have brought a striker and winger in earlier. Agreed?

[Smirking_Saint]

How do you know? I think we should have brought a striker and winger in earlier. Agreed?

 

Striker yes, but winger ?? Probably not really needed. What with Punch, Lallana, Ox, Holmes, Dickson and Mills.

[doddisalegend]

Striker yes, but winger ?? Probably not really needed. What with Punch, Lallana, Ox, Holmes, Dickson and Mills.

 

Aren't they almost all left sided players though? The right side could have done with some more depth thats the side both Papa and Antonio played, when it became clear they weren't coming back a second right sided winger might have been a good idea. Oxo is good but apparently he played central mid-field for the youth side not as a winger.

[Andy_Porter]

What I find strange is that Adkins seems to rate Holmes above Dickson.

 

Was obvious that Harding wouldn't lose his place at left back easily after last season.

[Greedyfly]

I thought he looked dead useful against Plymouth. If Lambert had been playing we would have won it as his crossing was pretty special in comparison to Punches

[doddisalegend]

I thought he looked dead useful against Plymouth. If Lambert had been playing we would have won it as his crossing was pretty special in comparison to Punches

 

The noticable thing for me was his lack of understanding with Harding (not unsurprising as a new player in a team). Harding would overlap or make runs and then Dickson would move in field leaving Harding all out of postion and looking rather ****ed off (although harding looks ****ed off most of the time to be fair). Harding and Lallana play really well as a left sided pair they seem to have a good idea of what the other one is up to I wouldn't want to break that up unless we were forced to.

[Andy_Porter]

Holmes is an interesting player, always promises occasionally delivers.

 

Apart from his first four or five games for us before he got injured I don't think he's delivered at all, it's a shame because he was brilliant against Derby when we beat them 1-0 away, but since then he has been utter ****e every time I've seen him play. He's just a left footed injury prone Lloyd James.

[Saint_clark]

Too early to judge. Has looked good whenever he's played.

Has played in CM for us as well I believe, so covers three positions.

[The Cat]

Dickson looks decent to me. Direct runner, good on the ball, great crossing technique.

 

Not sure about him defensively yet, he's always caught my eye when going forwards. Can't argue with buying him for the price we paid as he's worth more than that, and it's not as simple as saying if we hadn't signed him we'd have bought a winger or a striker instead. This isn't some management simulation game where you run out of transfer funds and have to go cap in hand to the board for more, it's real life.