Big News on Solent (NOT!)

[miserableoldgit]

Solent today building up for some big news that a number of clubs are after one of our players. Find out who on the Sports News! Turned out to be Jason Puncheon who is wanted by 3 or 4 clubs including one from the Prem! Phew!Just calming down after the excitement now.

[stanthemanfairoak]

:lol:solent football fed to them by the echo!

[Saint Charlie]

Newcastle maybe. Pardew really rates him.

[Saint Lindford]

If we can get £1.5 - £2m for him as he has over 2 years left on his contract then all well and good. Means there is more to spend on a replacement who wants to play for the club.

[Turkish]

Newcastle maybe. Pardew really rates him.

 

F*ck me if he was homesick at Plymouth he wont last five minutes up there.

[Turkish]

If we can get £1.5 - £2m for him as he has over 2 years left on his contract then all well and good. Means there is more to spend on a replacement who wants to play for the club.

 

Are you mental? we only payed £250k for him! How come his value has shot up by at least £1.25m considering everyone on here thinks he is s***?!!

[Thorpe-le-Saint]

Are you mental? we only payed £250k for him! How come his value has shot up by at least £1.25m considering everyone on here thinks he is s***?!!

 

If there are three of four clubs after him, we may be able to up the asking price a bit, but I agree that £1.5m-£2m is exceptionally steep for a League 1 player.

[There when Franny scored]

Completely thoughtless to have him out on loan at the moment. Firstly, I think AOC is off form at the moment. Given his age, he is better used sporadically and playing him for 90 minutes during a busy fixture period will do him no good. We have just lost Holmes for the season.

 

Puncheon is contracted to play for us and is desperately needed at present. I would never want to play for supporters who booed me but If Adkins can talk him round then bring him back

[Turkish]

If there are three of four clubs after him, we may be able to up the asking price a bit, but I agree that £1.5m-£2m is exceptionally steep for a League 1 player.

 

and considering how s**** everyone on here said he is, if anything his value should have gone down whilst with us.

[bender]

If there are three of four clubs after him, we may be able to up the asking price a bit, but I agree that £1.5m-£2m is exceptionally steep for a League 1 player.

 

I'm fairly sure Millwall are in the Championship.

[SuperSAINT]

Since he's on the outs with the management anyway, I'd take 500k for him.

[Turkish]

this thread is mental. A player we signed for £250k, apart from the first few games has been critised and slagged off every week and is supposedly s*** and not as good as Antonio who cant get in at Reading yet now we think he is worth at least double what we payed for him and in some cases up to £2m, 8 times what we payed for him! Get real people.

[St_Tel49]

Are you mental? we only payed £250k for him! How come his value has shot up by at least £1.25m considering everyone on here thinks he is s***?!!

Yeah - but we can all see how good people on here are at negotiating. Lets just give our players away. We think they are **** so they must be. Funny how they all look so much better playing for other people.

[Window Cleaner]

We'll give him away I expect, perhaps he was one of those players that "should never have been given a professional contract"

 

 

NB I'm not sure that you're allowed to say that sort of thing about your staff in public,although perhaps it wasn't said eh!!!!!!!!

[Saint Lindford]

Are you mental? we only payed £250k for him! How come his value has shot up by at least £1.25m considering everyone on here thinks he is s***?!!

 

You answered your own question at the end.

 

There is no reason why we cannot negotiate a decent fee for him. We do not need to sell, he has over 2 years left on his contract. IF a PL team wants him then pay a market rate. Other players have gone to PL clubs from NPC teams for £3m+, why should we roll over and let him go for relative peanuts.

[hypochondriac]

500K would be good business. Reinvest it and we could get a cracking winger for that amount easily.

[Thedelldays]

£1m for puncheon..lol

 

I would be amazed if any CCC spend over £1m this jan

[Turkish]

You answered your own question at the end.

 

There is no reason why we cannot negotiate a decent fee for him. We do not need to sell, he has over 2 years left on his contract. IF a PL team wants him then pay a market rate. Other players have gone to PL clubs from NPC teams for £3m+, why should we roll over and let him go for relative peanuts.

 

and market rate for a L1 one winger that has never played above this level and whose current fan base think he is sh*t is £1.5-£2m is it??! :lol:

[Turkish]

£1m for puncheon..lol

 

I would be amazed if any CCC spend over £1m this jan

 

no no, it's £1.5m-£2m Jamie. Not bad for a player who 90% of this board dont rate. :lol:

[Thedelldays]

no no, it's £1.5m-£2m Jamie. Not bad for a player who 90% of this board dont rate. :lol:

 

sometimes..I reckon some that post on here have not woken up from 2004 and forget how shyt we are and how many shyt players we have in the grand scheme of things

[Turkish]

There's nothing real or sensible about football. Would an average league 1 player going to a million surprise you? I'm sure he'll go for less, but I wouldn't be surprised at all if some idiot overpaid.

 

We paid 1.1m for Wayne Thomas, burnley valued him around 150k. Which is more stupid?

 

We obviously added a 0 onto the end of our bid by mistake.

[Saint Lindford]

and market rate for a L1 one winger that has never played above this level and whose current fan base think he is sh*t is £1.5-£2m is it??! :lol:

 

He has played in the Championship and is currently playing in the Championship so you are wrong there. Just because some myopic boo boys think he is sh*t does not make him a bad player as is bourne out by the fact that 4 clubs, one of whom is a PL club, have already expressed an interest in him.

[Turkish]

He has played in the Championship and is currently playing in the Championship so you are wrong there. Just because some myopic boo boys think he is sh*t does not make him a bad player as is bourne out by the fact that 4 clubs, one of whom is a PL club, have already expressed an interest in him.

 

Okay 3 games on loan at championship level and 6 games over 2 year at Plymouth doesn't make him a championship player anymore than Carlton Palmer, Geoff Thomas and Keith Curle playing for England made them world class players. Until he has proven himself over a couple of seasons then and only then can you say he is a championship quality player. Come on admit it, you know that your £1.5m-£2m for Puncheon was a stupid thing to say, just admit it, there is no shame in being wrong. And just so you know i like Puncheon, i rate him and think he is just a victim of the whipping boy culture we have here. Check any of my posts on him and they are always positive so am not saying this as one of the 90% of imbiciles who dont have a clue, but worth £2m? You're mental.

[Jonnyboy]

no no, it's £1.5m-£2m Jamie. Not bad for a player who 90% of this board dont rate. :lol:

 

Maybe 90% of this board are a bit dim.

[sotonjoe]

You watch; Puncheon will be another player deemed 'not good enough' for Saints who goes on to put in perfectly acceptable performances for a club above us in the league structure.

 

As others have said, it's ridiculous that the Saints management cannot get Puncheon back here to put in a couple of professional performances until a replacement can be found. We're short of players due to injuries and sending Puncheon out on loan.

[Window Cleaner]

I wondered if that was true at the time. I know a burnley fan who thought it was a joke and we'd actually paid 110k, which he still thought was a bit much.

 

but they turned down 200K from Coventry for him, so we paid them 1.2 million. Burley probably threw a wobbly and rolled on the floor

until he got his way.Perhaps this is the sort of strange dealing that Mr C was talking about.

[Saint_clark]

Completely thoughtless to have him out on loan at the moment. Firstly, I think AOC is off form at the moment. Given his age, he is better used sporadically and playing him for 90 minutes during a busy fixture period will do him no good. We have just lost Holmes for the season.

 

Puncheon is contracted to play for us and is desperately needed at present. I would never want to play for supporters who booed me but If Adkins can talk him round then bring him back

 

Let's get one thing straight, this is NOT the reason he is out on loan. He said himself earlier in the season that he is fully aware of the boos and that it spurred him on to play better. I'm also of the opinion that Adkins would just tell him to man up if he came asking to be loaned out because of that.

[sotonjoe]

Let's get one thing straight, this is NOT the reason he is out on loan. He said himself earlier in the season that he is fully aware of the boos and that it spurred him on to play better. I'm also of the opinion that Adkins would just tell him to man up if he came asking to be loaned out because of that.

 

So IYO why on earth was he sent out on loan?

[Saint_clark]

So IYO why on earth was he sent out on loan?

 

Personally I think the alleged bust up with Crosby gained a lot more credibility as soon as he was loaned out.

[Matthew Le God]

Dropping out of the first choice starting XI also played a factor. Chamberlain has been more effective, Puncheon 7 years older wouldn't like to play second fiddle. Holmes ( until the inevitable injury) and Dickson/Harding provide cover out wide for the small number of games between Puncheon leaving and the January window opening.

Edited 21 December, 2010 by Matthew Le God

[Window Cleaner]

Personally I think the alleged bust up with Crosby gained a lot more credibility as soon as he was loaned out.

 

Perhaps Crosby thought Punch wasn't doing enough defensively, defending as a team is one of his hobby horses apparently.

Mind you given S****horpe's defensive record last season (and again this) perhaps he is not wrong.

[sotonjoe]

Personally I think the alleged bust up with Crosby gained a lot more credibility as soon as he was loaned out.

 

Even if it was a reason like this there should have been a 'can be recalled' clause in the loan contract and he should have been brought straight back to do a job once Holmes wen on the long-term injured list.

[Window Cleaner]

Even if it was a reason like this there should have been a 'can be recalled' clause in the loan contract and he should have been brought straight back to do a job once Holmes wen on the long-term injured list.

 

Why?? JP obviously came here with a move up to the Championship in view, we didn't make it, perhaps hanging around in this crap league was abhorrent to him. Oh right Kenny Jackett called on the off chance that JP would fancy a loan move to Millwall....rrrrright,

as if such a phone call could not be engineered.

[dronskisaint]

Ipswich i mean.

 

Scored the winning penalty against Norwich in the shoot out...that was good too!

[Matthew Le God]

Oh right Kenny Jackett called on the off chance that JP would fancy a loan move to Millwall....rrrrright,

as if such a phone call could not be engineered.

 

Why is it unbelievable? Kenny Jackett was looking for attacking players and he could see that Jason Puncheon wasn't playing for Saints as Chamberlain was being preferred.

[Window Cleaner]

Why is it unbelievable? Kenny Jackett was looking for attacking players and he could see that Jason Puncheon wasn't playing for Saints as Chamberlain was being preferred.

 

Did I say it was unbelievable?? I said it is a lucky chance for Punch at best.If the move wasn't engineered from Puncheon's side then it shows that vultures are always watching over us to see if anyone who can be snaffled up has been dropped.Punch had been on the bench forjust 2 or 3 games before Millwall snapped him up.

[david in sweden]

F*ck me if he was homesick at Plymouth he wont last five minutes up there.

 

IF he goes and we get the fee..it's no longer our problem, but we should get a sell-on clause (ala RL).

[corky morris]

If we can get our money back & free up his wages I will be over the moon!!

[Turkish]

If we can get our money back & free up his wages I will be over the moon!!

 

even though some on here think he is worth £2m mate?!

[Northant Saint]

Completely thoughtless to have him out on loan at the moment. Firstly, I think AOC is off form at the moment. Given his age, he is better used sporadically and playing him for 90 minutes during a busy fixture period will do him no good. We have just lost Holmes for the season.

 

Puncheon is contracted to play for us and is desperately needed at present. I would never want to play for supporters who booed me but If Adkins can talk him round then bring him back

 

Well said.

[NickG]

Completely thoughtless to have him out on loan at the moment. Firstly, I think AOC is off form at the moment. Given his age, he is better used sporadically and playing him for 90 minutes during a busy fixture period will do him no good. We have just lost Holmes for the season.

 

Puncheon is contracted to play for us and is desperately needed at present. I would never want to play for supporters who booed me but If Adkins can talk him round then bring him back

 

yep bet he went without Cortese or Adkins even thinking about it.

[simo]

South today recons there is a queue to sign him and one is a premier league club !

[Andy_Porter]

Newcastle or Blackpool I'd assume.

[simo]

Didn't see this Fred before I started line soz! Even south today are on the story now .

[Window Cleaner]

South today recons there is a queue to sign him and one is a premier league club !

 

now if that happened and he did OK it would be tangible proof that you can be too good to play well in the third division.

[Seaford Saint]

now if that happened and he did OK it would be tangible proof that you can be too good to play well in the third division.

 

No I think I would show that a lot of people on here are clueless, not that I would need Puncheon to do well to conclude it. We have Fuller and a host of others performing in the Premiership week in and week out.

[saint1977]

Best of luck to him if he does get a Prem move. I don't doubt his talent - he destroyed Leeds and Huddersfield and also was superb at Carrow Rd but his consistency and determination are what people would question. Let's hope we can get £750k or so, bearing in mind we allegedly paid Plymouth £250-350k for him, and then reinvest that in Ryan Harley - who was superb again for Exeter V Sheff Wed - and a winger with some flipping pace. Perhaps Pardew wants to bid for Morgan as well? If he does, Nile Ranger on loan until end of the season and £1m cash please which can go on Le Fondre and a nominal fee to Preston for Chaplow.

[Andy_Porter]

Would rather not take Nile Ranger back.

[saint1977]

Would rather not take Nile Ranger back.

 

Fair enough, his attitude was poor first time around. Newcastle must have other pacy, hungry young forwards on the fring of their squad that want first team experience? We need strikers big time, one upside to the postponements is that it gives the one striker (Barney) on our books who is vaguely on-form some recovery time. How we get Lambert back on song nobody seems to know and if we are going to get promotion this year we can't afford to wait to find out. A nice extra windfall from Puncheon would help Adkins, that's for certain.

[Chez]

No I think I would show that a lot of people on here are clueless, not that I would need Puncheon to do well to conclude it. We have Fuller and a host of others performing in the Premiership week in and week out.

 

Absolutely spot on, the game is all about opinions, but up and down the country there are so many fans that struglge to differentiate between arse and elbow.