Saint-Armstrong Posted 31 May, 2011 Share Posted 31 May, 2011 Courtesy of Twitter: For those of you who were asking -My meeting went extremely well today. #ukboundnextseason Rohan Ricketts on Twitter: RT @richardnugent: @RohanRicketts Brilliant that you're UK bound.Hope it is #saints. Cros(by) and Nige 2 of my top ppl in football ^^ That was from a talent scout and agent. Then Ricketts replied to a Saints fan: RT @EdChaplow: @RohanRicketts Confirms move to the UK next season. #saintsfc ? Please for god sake - I hope we are not signing this talentless waster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the saint in winchester Posted 31 May, 2011 Share Posted 31 May, 2011 oh dear. Don't know much about this guy, but I see Nathan Tyson is confirmed as available for hire. I'd rather go for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintscottofthenortham Posted 1 June, 2011 Share Posted 1 June, 2011 Wtf!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saints foreva Posted 1 June, 2011 Share Posted 1 June, 2011 If we sign Rohan Ricketts than I would certainly question Adkins ability to attract good players to the club. Chaplow was good in League One but there is a reason why Preston (the worst team in The Championship) let him go and that is because he wasn't doing much in The Championship. Stephens and Forte both looked like average League One players. N'Guessan was an awful excuse for a winger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintNeil90 Posted 1 June, 2011 Share Posted 1 June, 2011 He is just marketing himself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SFCDan Posted 1 June, 2011 Share Posted 1 June, 2011 What a ****ing disaster this would be. Would certainly change the question marks around Adkins' ability in the transfer market to fully established negative points. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilchards Posted 1 June, 2011 Share Posted 1 June, 2011 Okay let's sit back and relax! First up he's playing the I'm wanted game with whoever is interested in him to push his deal through! Bet it's a div 1 club he ends up going too. The second reason why it's not us is because Cortese will not let anyone announce on a website who he will be joining because it's not his style to let them. chill guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 1 June, 2011 Share Posted 1 June, 2011 Some of you need to wise up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 1 June, 2011 Share Posted 1 June, 2011 Adkins has been very very very poor in the transfer market so far imo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint_stevo Posted 1 June, 2011 Share Posted 1 June, 2011 i would castrate myself if we signed him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jam Posted 1 June, 2011 Share Posted 1 June, 2011 Do we need the duplicate thread? http://www.saintsweb.co.uk/showthread.php?30532-Rohan-Ricketts-on-his-way-to-Saints&p=1055873#post1055873 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toofarnorth Posted 1 June, 2011 Share Posted 1 June, 2011 Adkins has been very very very poor in the transfer market so far imo He's bought Chaplow who despite a couple of blips has been a good signing and Forte, who despite not looking awesome possibly saved our automatic promotion push. Think its a bit harsh to say he's been very very poor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nexstar Posted 1 June, 2011 Share Posted 1 June, 2011 If he knows he is UK bound this season he wouldn't say "possibly" to Saints. He'd know where he was going and would shut up until it's confirmed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 1 June, 2011 Share Posted 1 June, 2011 How much has he spent? I'd say he identified weak areas, got cover in short term because he didn't want to be stuck with players who weren't good enough at a higher level, and got us promoted without wasting a penny. Is that very very very poor? He made a few signings and only Chaplow has really been able to compete for 1st team. Loaning out Puncheon (for what ever reason) and bringing in n'guessan actually made the squad weaker. Just my opinion but not really been impressed at all so far with his transfers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 1 June, 2011 Share Posted 1 June, 2011 Loaning out Puncheon coincided with the team winning a lot more games. How is that weaker? He was terrible for the squad, clearly didn't want to play, so why keep him? Would you have played him over Lallana or Chamberlain and begged him to stay? No-one would, Puncheon had to go. NGuessan didn't replace Puncheon, he'd already gone. NGuessan came in as cover, on a loan, very cheap. He set up a vital goal at Exeter which alone made him worthwhile. Now he's gone and we can look at a higher quality. Adkins only didn't sign players for the first team merely because he didn't feel we needed them. He thought he could get us up with that team, and he did. Why are you against that? I'd rather have a manager getting all he can out of his squad before spending money. Judging a manager on one transfer window, in January when business is more difficult, and when we didn't need much, is really daft. Puncheon was not good enough for L1 but did brilliantly at Millwall and very positive reviews when in the prem? None of the below have really impressed me - sure we got promoted but he had a great squad no? Dale Stephens James Shea? Jonathan Forte Dany N'Guessan Nicholas Bignall Richard Chaplow - best of bad bunch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monosaint Posted 1 June, 2011 Share Posted 1 June, 2011 How about signing Lallana on a 4 year contract and also extending Connolly on a 1 year Contract. To me those are good signings for the Championship. I think he has done well so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevegrant Posted 1 June, 2011 Share Posted 1 June, 2011 He is just marketing himself. This. The only reason this link has come about is because some idiot who follows RR on Twitter told him he'd like him to sign for us. He's spent the last two years in Moldova and the German third division (probably on a par with the Conference in terms of resources). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mustapha Fag Posted 1 June, 2011 Share Posted 1 June, 2011 nice bit of angling there Glasgow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 1 June, 2011 Share Posted 1 June, 2011 Forte was a cheap short term striker and chipped in with some vital moments. Brilliant value for money and very welcome competition. Thank christ you're not in charge. Forte was signed on a 3.5 year contract Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deppo Posted 1 June, 2011 Share Posted 1 June, 2011 Great signing! We could do with a pacey winger to replace Chamberlain and I think RR could be the man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint1977 Posted 1 June, 2011 Share Posted 1 June, 2011 Puncheon was not good enough for L1 but did brilliantly at Millwall and very positive reviews when in the prem? None of the below have really impressed me - sure we got promoted but he had a great squad no? Dale Stephens James Shea? Jonathan Forte Dany N'Guessan Nicholas Bignall Richard Chaplow - best of bad bunch No offence Glasgow, but this is some kind of joke? Puncheon did not want to play for SFC by all accounts, if Tactics is right on the other thread and QPR want him and we can get £1m, great all round and Puncheon can stay in London where we wants to live. Stephens was a loan and I didn't think he looked that bad plus we played him out of position somewhat (he's not really a holding player). David Moyes likes him and how many signings has he got wrong over the last 10 years? We haven't signed Stephens yet either. Forte - wouldn't have gone up without those MK goals and his pace will cause tiring defences trouble as an impact sub. N'Guessan - good debut at Exeter, not much afterwards but took the pressure off of other places. Bignall - highly rated at Reading, didn't quite work here but won't have cost much and the competition woke Lambert and Barnard out of their slumber a bit. Chaplow - high energy player, did well last season, wasn't settled at Preston and didn't see eye to eye with Fergie Jnr. Won't sustain that over a 46 game season but that's why he'll rotate with other CMs. I can't see much net outlay there. Adkins has only window and he got us up without spending much, Stephens for example took the pressure off of a clearly tiring Chaplow who hadn't had the prior games at PNE at a key stage and it was chance to try-before-we-buy on a player at 21 years of age with a growing reputation. Oldham fans didn't want him to go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 1 June, 2011 Share Posted 1 June, 2011 No offence Glasgow, but this is some kind of joke? Puncheon did not want to play for SFC by all accounts, if Tactics is right on the other thread and QPR want him and we can get £1m, great all round and Puncheon can stay in London where we wants to live. Stephens was a loan and I didn't think he looked that bad plus we played him out of position somewhat (he's not really a holding player). David Moyes likes him and how many signings has he got wrong over the last 10 years? We haven't signed Stephens yet either. Forte - wouldn't have gone up without those MK goals and his pace will cause tiring defences trouble as an impact sub. N'Guessan - good debut at Exeter, not much afterwards but took the pressure off of other places. Bignall - highly rated at Reading, didn't quite work here but won't have cost much and the competition woke Lambert and Barnard out of their slumber a bit. Chaplow - high energy player, did well last season, wasn't settled at Preston and didn't see eye to eye with Fergie Jnr. Won't sustain that over a 46 game season but that's why he'll rotate with other CMs. I can't see much net outlay there. Adkins has only window and he got us up without spending much, Stephens for example took the pressure off of a clearly tiring Chaplow who hadn't had the prior games at PNE at a key stage and it was chance to try-before-we-buy on a player at 21 years of age with a growing reputation. Oldham fans didn't want him to go. Few good points there and although fairly twisted to suit agenda I can see your view point. Not overly excited by Forte myself and not sure he can cut it in the champ so question a 3.5 year contract. Loan signings have also not excited me, so will watch closely and hope he does better this summer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macey_J2 Posted 1 June, 2011 Share Posted 1 June, 2011 i would castrate myself if we signed him. You havent got the balls to Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint1977 Posted 1 June, 2011 Share Posted 1 June, 2011 Few good points there and although fairly twisted to suit agenda I can see your view point. Not overly excited by Forte myself and not sure he can cut it in the champ so question a 3.5 year contract. Loan signings have also not excited me, so will watch closely and hope he does better this summer. I'm sure he will - it is difficult to attract really decent players to L1 let alone keep ones like Fonte and Lallana which we also did. There's no agenda from my perspective - if we sign only average players I'll join in any criticism because that's how Lowe got us into a mess by signing huge numbers of average/poor players and we ended up with a vast squad costing us a huge overhead. We only need 3-4 signings but they need to be the right age, pacy (no point signing any player without pace as bar Ox-C and Forte there isn't much) and have the right attitude to fit with Adkins's and Cortese's positive, can-do outlook. Therefore, they'll probably be on a parity with Lambert, Lallana and Fonte wage-wise but that's probably okay as we get more income in this league than the last to offset it plus we are quite well equipped for most positions in terms of squad cover already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 1 June, 2011 Share Posted 1 June, 2011 You're not getting it are you. I'm saying THESE PLAYERS AREN'T GOOD ENOUGH FOR THE CHAMPIONSHIP, that's the point. The alternative? Sign permanent players, pay money, get better players, but ultimately be left with a larger squad in the championship full of players that might not be good enough, but on long term contracts. We needed squad players, BACK-UP. Back-up by definition won't be as good as the first team. Did you ever consider perhaps the added competition helped the first team players, kept them on form? Or is it a huge coincidence we had one of our best ever winning runs to secure promotion? You seem to think it's bad that Adkins secured promotion without wasting money. How is expensive back up a good thing? For years we tried that and it killed the club. You mention 6 players, 5 of which were loans for cover. Shea was cover and never played, but we needed cover in case of further injury/suspension. How the hell is that bad? Would you rather spend lots loaning a better keeper for a few weeks cover? Forte was a cheap short term striker and chipped in with some vital moments. Brilliant value for money and very welcome competition. Thank christ you're not in charge. I think there's room for a combination of short-term stop-gap signings and longer-term good enough for the Championship ones - at the moment Adkins has done well with the former (Stephens gave us an option beyond Gobern, N'Guessan was cover who only became useful to have when we lost Lallana and Oxlade-Chamberlain) and the jury's still out on Forte and Chaplow in the Championship, but they were both playing for bottom 6 sides when we signed them. So far no-one Adkins has signed has looked like a long-term starter, but that may be because we already had enough to get up. Now is the time when we will see if we've got the money and the manager to challenge in the Championship. And Adkins hasn't been a cheque-book manager before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hutch Posted 1 June, 2011 Share Posted 1 June, 2011 Few good points there and although fairly twisted to suit agenda I can see your view point. Not overly excited by Forte myself and not sure he can cut it in the champ so question a 3.5 year contract. Loan signings have also not excited me, so will watch closely and hope he does better this summer. People were crying out for impact from the bench when Papa & Antonio went. He fits that bill in my book. And he's ours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrMojoRisin Posted 3 June, 2011 Share Posted 3 June, 2011 If we sign Rohan Ricketts than I would certainly question Adkins ability to attract good players to the club. Chaplow was good in League One but there is a reason why Preston (the worst team in The Championship) let him go and that is because he wasn't doing much in The Championship. Stephens and Forte both looked like average League One players. N'Guessan was an awful excuse for a winger. Agreed I personally dont think that the Physio will be able to attract the quality of players we need The four above players mentioned are very average and to be fair didnt really do alot to get us where we are now. And this sentiment will be echoed if we sign a player like this joker mentioned above. Signing players of this quality will not get people rushing to purchase there more expensive ST's. I dont think good players for this league and beyond will be interested in signing for us when we have a physio for a boss, and before you all start piping up saying he got us promoted, I would like to say I and everyone on this board could have got us promoted from L1 with the squad and resources at his disposal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 3 June, 2011 Share Posted 3 June, 2011 quite ill-informed foolish post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hopkins Posted 3 June, 2011 Share Posted 3 June, 2011 When you say "didn't really do alot" do you deliberately forget Forte's double against MK Dons, Chaplow being a regular and N'Guessan placing the ball on Lambert's head against Exeter or are you just being stupid? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 3 June, 2011 Share Posted 3 June, 2011 People were crying out for impact from the bench when Papa & Antonio went. He fits that bill in my book. And he's ours. Forte is a very average L1 player imo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 3 June, 2011 Share Posted 3 June, 2011 When you say "didn't really do alot" do you deliberately forget Forte's double against MK Dons, Chaplow being a regular and N'Guessan placing the ball on Lambert's head against Exeter or are you just being stupid? You have managed to find one or two examples - only helping to emphasis my "didn't really do a lot" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 3 June, 2011 Share Posted 3 June, 2011 Back up players aren't brought in to do a lot. Hope that helps. hahahahahahahahaha Youre funny Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 3 June, 2011 Share Posted 3 June, 2011 Isn't this when we want. We keep going on about back up players What if most of our midfielders got injured... Lallana, oxo Morgan Hammond etc what then, we need squad players ffs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToreSF Posted 3 June, 2011 Share Posted 3 June, 2011 I dont think good players for this league and beyond will be interested in signing for us when we have a physio for a boss, and before you all start piping up saying he got us promoted, I would like to say I and everyone on this board could have got us promoted from L1 with the squad and resources at his disposal. I reckon Mr. Dean Wilkins is not a member of Saintsweb then... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deppo Posted 3 June, 2011 Share Posted 3 June, 2011 People forget Ricketts actually has an England cap his name. He might have gone off the boil in recent years but if he can rediscover that form I for one would welcome him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 3 June, 2011 Share Posted 3 June, 2011 Isn't this when we want. We keep going on about back up players What if most of our midfielders got injured... Lallana, oxo Morgan Hammond etc what then, we need squad players ffs Back up players is what we need, 3 back up players for each position ideally. Ones who aren't very good but CDAJFU if one of our XI gets injured. It worked really well when we were in the premier league in the 04/05 season where we had a massive squad full of average to crap players. Much better to follow this model than having 20-22 good players as part of the first team squad and some good youngesters who can be rotated depending on form, fitness, oppostion etc like all the top clubs do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
georgeweahscousin Posted 3 June, 2011 Share Posted 3 June, 2011 He doesn't have an England cap. He is a journeyman in the nether regions of football, there is always a reason for that. Not good enough for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Wayman Posted 3 June, 2011 Share Posted 3 June, 2011 Adkins has been very very very poor in the transfer market so far imo Bloody Hell! Somebody actually agrees with me for a change and that is not to knock the great managerial job that he is doing here. Maybe we should appoint Gerard Houllier as DoF to help Nigel, a role that should work for Houllier as well despite his fragility. Nicola... over to you to sort out the details.... After all he helped discover and groom most of the French tam that won the World Cup and European Cup a few years back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 3 June, 2011 Share Posted 3 June, 2011 I trust Deppo - he does have an England cap Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raging Bull Posted 3 June, 2011 Share Posted 3 June, 2011 He's on talk sport later so we may well fine out where his future lies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shirleysfc Posted 3 June, 2011 Share Posted 3 June, 2011 People forget Ricketts actually has an England cap his name. He might have gone off the boil in recent years but if he can rediscover that form I for one would welcome him. This made me lol for two reasons... Firstly I took the bait and secondly remembering Michael Ricketts has an England cap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thefuriousb Posted 3 June, 2011 Share Posted 3 June, 2011 I am now waiting for the "well, they look the same" excuse :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deppo Posted 3 June, 2011 Share Posted 3 June, 2011 I heard him being interviewed on TalkSport earlier. He's pretty confident he's coming to England but couldn't name the club. He also came across as one of the most grounded and articulate footballers I've ever heard speak. He has an online magazine, which he himself writes for: http://www.column10.com/ And he's written an e-book which is due out this month, giving advice to youngsters getting into the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deano6 Posted 3 June, 2011 Share Posted 3 June, 2011 Good utility man who can play anywhere across the back. Wasn't aware Bolton were looking to let him go though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 3 June, 2011 Share Posted 3 June, 2011 Bloody Hell! Somebody actually agrees with me for a change and that is not to knock the great managerial job that he is doing here. Maybe we should appoint Gerard Houllier as DoF to help Nigel, a role that should work for Houllier as well despite his fragility. Nicola... over to you to sort out the details.... After all he helped discover and groom most of the French tam that won the World Cup and European Cup a few years back. Very good idea! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRichmond Posted 3 June, 2011 Share Posted 3 June, 2011 People forget Ricketts actually has an England cap his name. He might have gone off the boil in recent years but if he can rediscover that form I for one would welcome him. NO You are thinking of another Rickets This one has had more Clubs than Tiger Woods Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintscottofthenortham Posted 3 June, 2011 Share Posted 3 June, 2011 People forget Ricketts actually has an England cap his name. He might have gone off the boil in recent years but if he can rediscover that form I for one would welcome him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 3 June, 2011 Share Posted 3 June, 2011 Cant believe this has 2 pages............ mental Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted 3 June, 2011 Share Posted 3 June, 2011 What's odd is that Deppo actually knew that. He just thinks it's funny to pretend otherwise for some reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintscottofthenortham Posted 3 June, 2011 Share Posted 3 June, 2011 What's odd is that Deppo actually knew that. He just thinks it's funny to pretend otherwise for some reason. You have just gifted him a way out of his stupidity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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