OttawaSaint Posted 1 August, 2012 Share Posted 1 August, 2012 Couldn't believe what I was hearing this morning about the Badminton teams deliberately losing. Completely goes against the spirit of the Olympics. Glad they had the balls to disqualify all 8 offenders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Saint Posted 1 August, 2012 Share Posted 1 August, 2012 (edited) Very true. Best ever winner of medals - without a doubt, best ever swimmer - certainly but best ever Olympian? And is winning a medal what it is all about? FWIW my vote would go to Mohamed Ali Rashwan a member of the Egyptian Judo team in 1984. In the final of his class in 1984 he was up against a Japanese (Yama****a) who had injured his right leg in an earlier round. The Egyptian refused to attack Yama****a's right leg as he believed it would be unfair to do so. Swimming is a sport that facilitates multimedal winning. There have been a number of occasions in these games where swimmers, having competed in one race, are back in the pool 50 minutes later winning a gold medal. I can't think of many sports where that would be possible. IMO phelps haul at Bejing ( 8 ) was no more impressive than Bolt (3). Redgrave has to up there having won 5 endurance golds in one of the toughest sports as should the chap who is representing Canada for the 10th time Edited 1 August, 2012 by CB Saint 8 ) turns into a smiley Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Saint Posted 1 August, 2012 Share Posted 1 August, 2012 Glad they had the balls to disqualify all 8 offenders. Honestly thought they would bottle it - fair play Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OttawaSaint Posted 1 August, 2012 Share Posted 1 August, 2012 the chap who is representing Canada for the 10th time Ian Millar - show jumping Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 1 August, 2012 Author Share Posted 1 August, 2012 I really hope wiggins does it I think he is great Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bridge too far Posted 1 August, 2012 Share Posted 1 August, 2012 Honestly thought they would bottle it - fair play I'm sure I heard one of the commentators on the rowing heats earlier this week say that some teams would deliberately not win a first heat but rather wait for the repecharge to qualify for the semis so that they didn't meet the strongest teams in the semis. I may have misunderstood but at the time I thought that wasn't the Olympic spirit either. It's a bit like football teams putting out weak teams for trophies when they're concentrating on league positions, I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iansums Posted 1 August, 2012 Share Posted 1 August, 2012 No medal for Team GB in womans time-trial. Apparently it wasnt the right sort of course for the GB best time-trialler, Emma Pooley. Who the f**ck sets these courses ? Can you imaging the French, Yanks, Chinese or Russians throwing away home advantages by setting crap courses for their athletes ? This infuriating cricket-match sh*t raises its ugly head - again !!! Its like this French first announcement b*ll*cks. Whats wrong with us - is patriotism vulgar, or even worse forbidden in the UK nowadays ? Alps goes into meltdown, absolutely priceless. Thank you Alps, you are a legend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saintandy666 Posted 1 August, 2012 Share Posted 1 August, 2012 Honestly thought they would bottle it - fair play It's a disgrace really. I really feel bad for the people who paid to watch that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minty Posted 1 August, 2012 Share Posted 1 August, 2012 Wiggins going well as I type, 20 seconds ahead of Martin in 2nd after 29km. 15km to go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Um Bongo Posted 1 August, 2012 Share Posted 1 August, 2012 Swimming is a sport that facilitates multimedal winning. There have been a number of occasions in these games where swimmers, having competed in one race, are back in the pool 50 minutes later winning a gold medal. I can't think of many sports where that would be possible. IMO phelps haul at Bejing ( 8 ) was no more impressive than Bolt (3). Redgrave has to up there having won 5 endurance golds in one of the toughest sports as should the chap who is representing Canada for the 10th time 8 medals. That's 8 events, giving it all you can. That's a hell of a lot, and while you quite rightly state there are more chances of medals, the chance of failure must be higher? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minty Posted 1 August, 2012 Share Posted 1 August, 2012 Gold for Wiggins! Froome gets Bronze! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank's cousin Posted 1 August, 2012 Share Posted 1 August, 2012 Wiggens is fricken legend! Kudos to Froome to... Get in there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saintandy666 Posted 1 August, 2012 Share Posted 1 August, 2012 Murray struggling against Baghdatis. And being 3 set matches, there isn't much time to recover. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubai_phil Posted 1 August, 2012 Share Posted 1 August, 2012 We switch from the glory of Wiggins to the meh of Murray Sent from my HTC One X using Tapatalk 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warsash saint Posted 1 August, 2012 Share Posted 1 August, 2012 Thats the Sports Personality of the Year sewed up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saintandy666 Posted 1 August, 2012 Share Posted 1 August, 2012 (edited) Murray looking more like Murray in the second set. 6-1. Hopefully he can come through well in the third to get through to the quarters. He really should get a medal of some colour in this. He is more than capable. Edit: And Murray is through. Pretty routine in the end. Really celebrated at the end. Edited 1 August, 2012 by Saintandy666 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Saint Posted 1 August, 2012 Share Posted 1 August, 2012 8 medals. That's 8 events, giving it all you can. That's a hell of a lot, and while you quite rightly state there are more chances of medals, the chance of failure must be higher? Agreed, but you won't see a track and field athlete enter 8 events or more (decathlon doesn't count before MLG pipes up). I not belittling the acheivement - it is amazing. There must be something about the physical demands of swimming which facilitates quicker recovery. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 1 August, 2012 Share Posted 1 August, 2012 It's a disgrace really. I really feel bad for the people who paid to watch that. It's ok. They are covered by UK consumer law and as such they are legally entitled to a refund. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubai_phil Posted 1 August, 2012 Share Posted 1 August, 2012 Murray looking more like Murray in the second set. 6-1. Hopefully he can come through well in the third to get through to the quarters. He really should get a medal of some colour in this. He is more than capable. Edit: And Murray is through. Pretty routine in the end. Really celebrated at the end. In the world of Irony on finals day... Murray wins at Wimbledon yet will never win Wimbledon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saintandy666 Posted 1 August, 2012 Share Posted 1 August, 2012 It's ok. They are covered by UK consumer law and as such they are legally entitled to a refund. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/olympics/badminton/9443862/London-2012-Olympics-Spectators-at-badminton-matches-caught-up-in-match-fixing-scandal-will-not-get-refunds.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 1 August, 2012 Share Posted 1 August, 2012 Agreed, but you won't see a track and field athlete enter 8 events or more (decathlon doesn't count before MLG pipes up). I not belittling the acheivement - it is amazing. There must be something about the physical demands of swimming which facilitates quicker recovery. If one was forced to make an arbitrary judgement on the 'best ever Olympian' I would look at the intensity of training required for each Olympics and divide that by the number of medals won at each games then multiply that by the number of Olympics they've taken part in. I suspect Steve Redgrave would come top of that particular pile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 1 August, 2012 Share Posted 1 August, 2012 (edited) http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/olympics/badminton/9443862/London-2012-Olympics-Spectators-at-badminton-matches-caught-up-in-match-fixing-scandal-will-not-get-refunds.html Of course the organisers will say that to avoid opening the floodgates, but it's not the organisers that uphold the law of the land. I was referring to UK consumer law which states you are entitled to a refund for any goods or services that were either 'not as advertised' or 'not of merchantable quality'. Anyone contesting the all too obvious 'no refunds' stance taken by the retailer ought to win their case if the law of the land is adhered to. The organisers are relying on people not being clued up as far as UK consumer law is concerned, which is a fairly save bet knowing this country's population... Edited 1 August, 2012 by trousers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamilton Saint Posted 1 August, 2012 Share Posted 1 August, 2012 You seem to make no allowance for other teams over-performing or 'pulling one out of the bag'. The favourites do not always win. This is why sport is so compelling... underdogs can succeed, favourites can sometimes fall short. You make it all sound so simplistic. And to then make the link that one potential failure would affect everyone else...?! Well, I can only hope you never seek to coach or teach anyone because that kind of mentality would stop many athletes before they got very far. Have you ever fallen short at something? Or do you always achieve everything you set out to? If you were beaten at something by someone who put in an exceptional performance, would you give up? If everyone slated you as a result, how would you feel? You do the same with Saints... grudging credit only when we win, unable to see merit in any performance if we don't, and you sap the enthusiasm out of anyone who listens. YOU might think you're right, clearly, but sometimes you have to stop and look around at the influence you're having and think about why other people hold the opinion of you that they do. This is not the way narcissists operate. EVERYTHING is about them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rallyboy Posted 1 August, 2012 Share Posted 1 August, 2012 When I got up this morning I thought, shall I go to Wimbledon and pay money to hang out with toffs supporting an overated underachiever in a sport cherished by middle-aged ladies, or shall I go and join the mass hysteria on the streets supporting the man who won the brutal Tour de France, and who was going to ruthlessly put his opponents to the sword and write history?....mmmm, difficult... Let's just say that four hours on a pavement in Esher was worth every minute. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamilton Saint Posted 1 August, 2012 Share Posted 1 August, 2012 If one was forced to make an arbitrary judgement on the 'best ever Olympian' I would look at the intensity of training required for each Olympics and divide that by the number of medals won at each games then multiply that by the number of Olympics they've taken part in. I suspect Steve Redgrave would come top of that particular pile. You forgot to divide by the reciprocal of the coefficient of their country's population density and then multiply by the square-root of their country's GDP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohio Saint Posted 1 August, 2012 Share Posted 1 August, 2012 When viewing the medals tables, I also like to look at ones like these. http://www.medalspercapita.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubai_phil Posted 1 August, 2012 Share Posted 1 August, 2012 When I got up this morning I thought, shall I go to Wimbledon and pay money to hang out with toffs supporting an overated underachiever in a sport cherished by middle-aged ladies, or shall I go and join the mass hysteria on the streets supporting the man who won the brutal Tour de France, and who was going to ruthlessly put his opponents to the sword and write history?....mmmm, difficult... Let's just say that four hours on a pavement in Esher was worth every minute. Well done you lucky bstd. Try and find an "I was there " T-Shirt - a special moment and WOW what crowds they had Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dune Posted 1 August, 2012 Share Posted 1 August, 2012 Make sure you are watching at 7.30 tonight. I reckon we'll get Gold and Silver in the 200 m breaststroke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dune Posted 1 August, 2012 Share Posted 1 August, 2012 damn it. so unfortunate to get silver with another british record. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 1 August, 2012 Share Posted 1 August, 2012 Brilliant day so far. Medals starting to come flooding in and I can't wait for the other rowing medals. I reckon we may get something from either football team as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jawillwill Posted 1 August, 2012 Share Posted 1 August, 2012 I thought of a new event earlier. Upstream swimming. They could use the rapids they use for canoeing/kayaking. It'd be brilliant. Just a simple race from bottom to top. Anyone know anyone official I could mention it too - would I get a pay-out if they like the idea? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BadgerBadger Posted 1 August, 2012 Share Posted 1 August, 2012 The Hungarian national anthem is like a funeral march Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamilton Saint Posted 1 August, 2012 Share Posted 1 August, 2012 I thought of a new event earlier. Upstream swimming. They could use the rapids they use for canoeing/kayaking. It'd be brilliant. Just a simple race from bottom to top. Anyone know anyone official I could mention it too - would I get a pay-out if they like the idea? They could have separate events for men and women and then a combined team. In the combined team evennt, when the women get to the top, they have to eject a wad of eggs; when the men reach the top they have to find and fertilise the eggs belonging to their own team! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohio Saint Posted 1 August, 2012 Share Posted 1 August, 2012 I thought of a new event earlier. Upstream swimming. They could use the rapids they use for canoeing/kayaking. It'd be brilliant. Just a simple race from bottom to top. Anyone know anyone official I could mention it too - would I get a pay-out if they like the idea? Too fancy. I wish they would just have egg and spoon races, sack races, three legged races and welly wanging. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamilton Saint Posted 1 August, 2012 Share Posted 1 August, 2012 Too fancy. I wish they would just have egg and spoon races, sack races, three legged races and welly wanging. Don't they have those already in the Paralympics? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 1 August, 2012 Share Posted 1 August, 2012 Looking good now. GB are also currently beating Uruguay 1-0 @ HT, and they only need a draw to progress as group winners. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Saint Posted 1 August, 2012 Share Posted 1 August, 2012 Ian Thorpe is allergic to chlorine - bit like a footballer being allegic to grass Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamilton Saint Posted 1 August, 2012 Share Posted 1 August, 2012 Ian Thorpe is allergic to chlorine - bit like a footballer being allegic to grass A lot of people here, who have outdoor pools in their back garden, have switched from chlorine to a saline solution. When I swim in a pool that has been too-heavily chlorinated, I break out in hives. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohio Saint Posted 1 August, 2012 Share Posted 1 August, 2012 Hmmm. do they use salt water in these pools now? If so, what is the effect on speed? What with maybe a little extra buoyancy possibly maybe or perhaps not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 1 August, 2012 Share Posted 1 August, 2012 Butland looks absolutely outstanding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamilton Saint Posted 1 August, 2012 Share Posted 1 August, 2012 Hmmm. do they use salt water in these pools now? If so, what is the effect on speed? What with maybe a little extra buoyancy possibly maybe or perhaps not. Oh, I don't know if they use saline solutions in pools used for competitive swimming. Your question is an interesting one. Probaly not, for the reason you suggest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saintandy666 Posted 1 August, 2012 Share Posted 1 August, 2012 Wiggins crashes football post match analysis! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doubleonothing Posted 1 August, 2012 Share Posted 1 August, 2012 So with GB topping the group in football I will be watching Sengal v Mexico on Saturday. Was expecting GB to get 2nd when i put in for tickets. Oh well, day out at Wembley. First since JPT. Will wear my Sash shirt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatch Posted 1 August, 2012 Share Posted 1 August, 2012 They should invent a multi discipline event to find a proper olympian, Not just a pentathlon, triathlon or decathlon, but loads of events that covers nearly everything. More like Superstars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted 1 August, 2012 Share Posted 1 August, 2012 I think we've missed a trick by not bringing in sports that we'd have a good chance of winning. Darts, snooker, morris dancing, sack race, egg and spoon race, that sort of thing. We'd clean up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubai_phil Posted 1 August, 2012 Share Posted 1 August, 2012 Well that was a helluva lot more enjoyable than watching England play hoofball. If Sturridge gets 100% fit that team could do something Not great for the neutrals but well done to the mixed up kids & old farts for being able to play football and have around 60% possession against a South American Football team. Are you watching Roy Hodgson???? Are you waaahaatching Roy Hodgson While sitting alongside Trev that was Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohio Saint Posted 1 August, 2012 Share Posted 1 August, 2012 They should invent a multi discipline event to find a proper olympian, Not just a pentathlon, triathlon or decathlon, but loads of events that covers nearly everything. More like Superstars. It's a knockout! Sorted that one!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohio Saint Posted 1 August, 2012 Share Posted 1 August, 2012 Well that was a helluva lot more enjoyable than watching England play hoofball. If Sturridge gets 100% fit that team could do something Not great for the neutrals but well done to the mixed up kids & old farts for being able to play football and have around 60% possession against a South American Football team. Are you watching Roy Hodgson???? Are you waaahaatching Roy Hodgson While sitting alongside Trev that was Stop abusing my real name please. Have you been stalking me? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubai_phil Posted 1 August, 2012 Share Posted 1 August, 2012 Stop abusing my real name please. Have you been stalking me? Well, as you were there FFS come up with some better songs than GB clap clap clap.......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohio Saint Posted 1 August, 2012 Share Posted 1 August, 2012 Well, as you were there FFS come up with some better songs than GB clap clap clap.......... Penicillin is good for clap clap clap! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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