Viking Warrior Posted 10 August, 2014 Share Posted 10 August, 2014 B rabbit , just joking Why would he be in Orkney , we don't have any decent village green standard players , if we did the get snapped up by Ross county Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olallana Posted 10 August, 2014 Share Posted 10 August, 2014 TMW. http://www.transfermarketweb.com/?action=read&idsel=145223&utm_medium=twitter&utm_source=twitterfeed According to latest rumours coming from Portuguese sources, Sporting Lisbon management have just rejected a 17 million euros coming from Southampton, set to purchase Argentinian international centre-back and left backwing Marcos Rojo (24). According to O Jogo, Primeira Liga giants are trying to raise bar and cash 20 from releasing former Spartak Moscow and Estudiantes player, not equipped with a second EU passport and currently on a deal with them until June 2016. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farawaysaint Posted 11 August, 2014 Share Posted 11 August, 2014 (edited) TMW. http://www.transfermarketweb.com/?action=read&idsel=145223&utm_medium=twitter&utm_source=twitterfeed According to latest rumours coming from Portuguese sources, Sporting Lisbon management have just rejected a 17 million euros coming from Southampton, set to purchase Argentinian international centre-back and left backwing Marcos Rojo (24). According to O Jogo, Primeira Liga giants are trying to raise bar and cash 20 from releasing former Spartak Moscow and Estudiantes player, not equipped with a second EU passport and currently on a deal with them until June 2016. Screw it, let's just get Gardos, is it really worth breaking our transfer record on a player who just had the good world cup? Edited 11 August, 2014 by farawaysaint Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goatboy Posted 11 August, 2014 Share Posted 11 August, 2014 Screw it, let's just get Gardos, is it really worth breaking our transfer record on a player who just had the good world cup? No it's not. I think this would be a colossal waste of money. £10-12m may be worth a punt but all the noise points towards a 'complicated' ownership situation, a selling club that keeps moving the goalposts and a player that, as you say, has had one good tournament. Move on me thinks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 11 August, 2014 Share Posted 11 August, 2014 Screw it, let's just get Gardos, is it really worth breaking our transfer record on a player who just had the good world cup? If Rojo was interested in moving to saints he'd be on tweeter complaining and taking strike action to get here.......as he isn't he clearly doesn't want to be a saints player bad enough:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gary3009 Posted 11 August, 2014 Share Posted 11 August, 2014 Screw it, let's just get Gardos, is it really worth breaking our transfer record on a player who just had the good world cup? Agreed.Would prefer Gardos and Van Dyjk for somewhere close to the same amount and then spend big on a class striker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sambosa75 Posted 11 August, 2014 Share Posted 11 August, 2014 If Rojo was interested in moving to saints he'd be on tweeter complaining and taking strike action to get here.......as he isn't he clearly doesn't want to be a saints player bad enough:) Haha a Lisbon based player tweeting his heart and mind are in Southampton? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thorpie the sinner Posted 11 August, 2014 Share Posted 11 August, 2014 Koeman doesn't rate VVD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 11 August, 2014 Share Posted 11 August, 2014 Koeman doesn't rate VVD Really? Earlier this year he suggested Van Gaal should pick him in the World Cup squad. Re Rojo it seems we are being used to hike the price up. Is he worth those kind of figures? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mouldy Coat Posted 11 August, 2014 Share Posted 11 August, 2014 Koeman doesn't rate VVD I guess we can't rely on many journalists and no proof in the attached link but it seems to suggest otherwise http://m.scotsman.com/sport/football/spfl/ronald-koeman-likely-to-target-virgil-van-dijk-1-3445019 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twiglet Posted 11 August, 2014 Share Posted 11 August, 2014 I guess we can't rely on many journalists and no proof in the attached link but it seems to suggest otherwise http://m.scotsman.com/sport/football/spfl/ronald-koeman-likely-to-target-virgil-van-dijk-1-3445019 Are you a real detective, or just a pretend one, Mascarpone! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goneawol Posted 11 August, 2014 Share Posted 11 August, 2014 (edited) http://www.ojogo.pt/Futebol/1a_liga/Sporting/interior.aspx?content_id=4073148 Roughly translated... Rojo threat force output Argentine international wants to give new direction to his career, after having noted in the world Marcos Rojo wants to leave Sporting and intends to carry out the intention to achieve their transfer to a Club of leading European Championships. When the game was found, the player, in line with the investment group Doyen, which holds 75% of the economic rights of the Argentine international, is willing to take to the last consequences the desire to reach immediately a new level in his career.Coveted by emblems of England and Italy, being at the top of potential reinforcements of emblems as Southampton or Naples, Rojo doesn't want to continue in Alvalade, where is regarded as the first option for the axis of the defense, having allowed the selection of Argentina in world of Brazil, having reached the end of the race and was considered the best left back in the competition. Edited 11 August, 2014 by goneawol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint_ed Posted 11 August, 2014 Share Posted 11 August, 2014 It looks as if its one or the other between Rojo and Gardos. http://www.dailyecho.co.uk/sport/saints/news/11400513._/?ref=mac “That’s true, we are interested because we lost Lovren and we need a player in that position. These are two players who are very interesting for us,” said Koeman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 11 August, 2014 Share Posted 11 August, 2014 It looks as if its one or the other between Rojo and Gardos. http://www.dailyecho.co.uk/sport/saints/news/11400513._/?ref=mac “That’s true, we are interested because we lost Lovren and we need a player in that position. These are two players who are very interesting for us,” said Koeman. Or you could interpret as we have lost Lovren and we needed a player anyway in that position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olallana Posted 11 August, 2014 Share Posted 11 August, 2014 This looks more and more like a Ramirez saga for every day... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint_ed Posted 11 August, 2014 Share Posted 11 August, 2014 (edited) Or you could interpret as we have lost Lovren and we needed a player anyway in that position. Thats true. Hopefully, although I would be surprised to get both. Edited 11 August, 2014 by saint_ed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Jeff Posted 11 August, 2014 Share Posted 11 August, 2014 City to let Nastasic go, would love that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Bad Bob Posted 11 August, 2014 Share Posted 11 August, 2014 City to let Nastasic go, would love that. Why would we want an old, retired tennis player? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Portugalsaint Posted 12 August, 2014 Share Posted 12 August, 2014 At least he has a bit of respect for Sporting unlike the arsehole ex saints players Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goneawol Posted 12 August, 2014 Share Posted 12 August, 2014 http://desporto.sapo.pt/futebol/primeira_liga/artigo/2014/08/12/rojo-quer-manchester-united Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gingeletiss Posted 12 August, 2014 Share Posted 12 August, 2014 http://desporto.sapo.pt/futebol/primeira_liga/artigo/2014/08/12/rojo-quer-manchester-united Manchester United want to Marcos Rojo and also Argentine international wants to play at Old Trafford. The "Red Devils" made an offer of 20 million euros to Sporting pass by the Argentine central and it is now the SAD leonine the final decision. According to the sports media, the continuity of Marcos Rojo in Alvalade is at risk. The title of the Argentinian World in 2014 aroused the interest of several European "giants", and will be very difficult to maintain the direction of Bruno Carvalho Marcos Rojo next season. According to the Tuesday edition of the Daily GAME, Manchester United offered 20 million to Sporting, Bruno Carvalho and either refuse the Argentine exploded. Already Daily Record writes this Tuesday that Rojo has said he wants to go to Manchester but lions are asking for more money. The said sports newspaper also ensures that the absence of Rojo in the game with the National Montevideo was due to a technical option Marco Silva. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint_ed Posted 12 August, 2014 Share Posted 12 August, 2014 http://desporto.sapo.pt/futebol/primeira_liga/artigo/2014/08/12/rojo-quer-manchester-united This one's dead. I think we will only sign one centre back and that will be Gardos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angelman Posted 12 August, 2014 Share Posted 12 August, 2014 How many South Americans have we ever signed that can be considered a success? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 12 August, 2014 Share Posted 12 August, 2014 Manchester United want to Marcos Rojo and also Argentine international wants to play at Old Trafford. The "Red Devils" made an offer of 20 million euros to Sporting pass by the Argentine central and it is now the SAD leonine the final decision. According to the sports media, the continuity of Marcos Rojo in Alvalade is at risk. The title of the Argentinian World in 2014 aroused the interest of several European "giants", and will be very difficult to maintain the direction of Bruno Carvalho Marcos Rojo next season. According to the Tuesday edition of the Daily GAME, Manchester United offered 20 million to Sporting, Bruno Carvalho and either refuse the Argentine exploded. Already Daily Record writes this Tuesday that Rojo has said he wants to go to Manchester but lions are asking for more money. The said sports newspaper also ensures that the absence of Rojo in the game with the National Montevideo was due to a technical option Marco Silva. Well i wouldn't know whther he'll go to Utd or not but he would certainly have considered Saints as beneath his status. Especially as he probably had noticed how difficult it is to get out once you're in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beckenham Saint Posted 12 August, 2014 Share Posted 12 August, 2014 Manchester United want to Marcos Rojo and also Argentine international wants to play at Old Trafford. The "Red Devils" made an offer of 20 million euros to Sporting pass by the Argentine central and it is now the SAD leonine the final decision. According to the sports media, the continuity of Marcos Rojo in Alvalade is at risk. The title of the Argentinian World in 2014 aroused the interest of several European "giants", and will be very difficult to maintain the direction of Bruno Carvalho Marcos Rojo next season. According to the Tuesday edition of the Daily GAME, Manchester United offered 20 million to Sporting, Bruno Carvalho and either refuse the Argentine exploded. Already Daily Record writes this Tuesday that Rojo has said he wants to go to Manchester but lions are asking for more money. The said sports newspaper also ensures that the absence of Rojo in the game with the National Montevideo was due to a technical option Marco Silva. Move on, he's exploded. We don't want to sign damaged goods at over the top prices! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John B Posted 12 August, 2014 Share Posted 12 August, 2014 How many South Americans have we ever signed that can be considered a success? Dont remember any am I right? Most Central European and Scandinavian players have done well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxstone Posted 12 August, 2014 Share Posted 12 August, 2014 Delgado, Arias, Tejera, Chala were all duds Viafara was alright as was Guly Gazzaniga still has it all to prove. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eelpie Posted 12 August, 2014 Share Posted 12 August, 2014 How many South Americans have we ever signed that can be considered a success? I wonder how good Pochetino might still have been had he been here as player manager? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewYorkSaint Posted 12 August, 2014 Share Posted 12 August, 2014 My impression is van Gaal not that overwhelmed by Luke Shaw, a decision made before his time... hence his interest in Rojo (and his weird public comments about Luke being unfit, etc). Would be ironic for Luke if he ends up on the bench. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRobbie Posted 12 August, 2014 Share Posted 12 August, 2014 My impression is van Gaal not that overwhelmed by Luke Shaw, a decision made before his time... hence his interest in Rojo (and his weird public comments about Luke being unfit, etc). Would be ironic for Luke if he ends up on the bench. Interesting perspective that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRobbie Posted 12 August, 2014 Share Posted 12 August, 2014 (edited) My assumption is Rojo is still the number 1 target, otherwise Gardos would've been announced having already completed his medical. Sounds like there's hope still that Rojo may sign. Edited 12 August, 2014 by SaintRobbie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Bad Bob Posted 12 August, 2014 Share Posted 12 August, 2014 My assumption is Rojo is still the number 1 target, otherwise Gardos would've been announced having already completed his medical. Sounds like there's hope still that Rojo may sign. Probably not, if the amount in this tweet is to be believed :- English Football @footieengland 28m Manchester United close on Marcos Rojo with £15.8m offer: http://ow.ly/Aep6t #mufc pic.twitter.com/T7L86kxm8D by @Metro_Sport Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted 12 August, 2014 Share Posted 12 August, 2014 I wonder how good Pochetino might still have been had he been here as player manager? You know he is 43? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Johnson Posted 12 August, 2014 Share Posted 12 August, 2014 My impression is van Gaal not that overwhelmed by Luke Shaw, a decision made before his time... hence his interest in Rojo (and his weird public comments about Luke being unfit, etc). Would be ironic for Luke if he ends up on the bench. Going off topic slightly, i'd agree with that. Don't think we'd have seen Alex Ferguson criticising a player in public like that, especially a young player who they've only recently signed. If they are after Rojo, I cant see him coming here. Although I think we'll only sign 1 CB & then a right back and a striker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 12 August, 2014 Share Posted 12 August, 2014 (edited) My assumption is Rojo is still the number 1 target, otherwise Gardos would've been announced having already completed his medical. Sounds like there's hope still that Rojo may sign. Keep on hoping then, in reality Rojo is out of our league. I mean we could offer 15.8 million £ (or 20 million euros) in the same way as Utd but his 3/4 owners are probably more concerned with the subsequent images rights deal that they will no doubt get if he's at Utd. Januzaj has just signed up with them as well. It's getting to be a very concerning situation with nebulous groups like Doyen, they co-own the players, act as their agents and manage their image rights. The players seem to do nothing without their approval. Edited 12 August, 2014 by Window Cleaner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 12 August, 2014 Share Posted 12 August, 2014 Going off topic slightly, i'd agree with that. Don't think we'd have seen Alex Ferguson criticising a player in public like that, especially a young player who they've only recently signed. he has used Shaw brilliantly to take charge of the dressing room. Perhaps a bold move considering the huge outlay, but one made from a position of strength and now he has every players attention. Not sure why they are bothering with five at the back. Shaw already does the wing back job as part of a four. Meh, what do I care? **** him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Matty 76 Posted 12 August, 2014 Share Posted 12 August, 2014 Jan Hagen @PortuBall 51s Marcos Rojo has refused to show up at today's training session at Sporting, as Man United has meet the clause in his contract. [Record] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrunkenSaint Posted 12 August, 2014 Share Posted 12 August, 2014 Good player yet another reason why we shouldn't do stupid small bids for a international player. We had the money we still tried to get a cheap deal which was never going to happen here. Looks like we will get Gardos but some reports ive seen seems disappointing and he can only play in defence while Rojo can play in 2 positions which is perfect and why we should of done a bigger first bid. Could open the way for Bind though and if Utd get him as well Luke Shaw won't be getting first team football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Johnson Posted 12 August, 2014 Share Posted 12 August, 2014 Its Alex Butner all over again... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 12 August, 2014 Share Posted 12 August, 2014 Good player yet another reason why we shouldn't do stupid small bids for a international player. We had the money we still tried to get a cheap deal which was never going to happen here. Looks like we will get Gardos but some reports ive seen seems disappointing and he can only play in defence while Rojo can play in 2 positions which is perfect and why we should of done a bigger first bid. Could open the way for Bind though and if Utd get him as well Luke Shaw won't be getting first team football. The deal was never going to happen...full stop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toon Saint Posted 12 August, 2014 Share Posted 12 August, 2014 Good player yet another reason why we shouldn't do stupid small bids for a international player. We had the money we still tried to get a cheap deal which was never going to happen here. Looks like we will get Gardos but some reports ive seen seems disappointing and he can only play in defence while Rojo can play in 2 positions which is perfect and why we should of done a bigger first bid. Could open the way for Bind though and if Utd get him as well Luke Shaw won't be getting first team football. By all accounts we offered a lot of money for Rojo (17m euro) but sounds like the player was reluctant to move. The clause in his contract may well be related to if a big club comes in (and not the fee itself) which they seem to have now. No shame in missing out to United and I think we've moved on from this since Les came back from Portugal anyway - there has been no more news of us increasing our bid, and we have at least been proactive in getting another target lined up should the bid for Rojo fail in Gardos. If Rojo was ambivalent about being here in the first place, him moving elsewhere is for the best. We've already seen with Osvaldo, the problems that signing someone who thinks he is bigger than the club, can create. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beavis17 Posted 12 August, 2014 Share Posted 12 August, 2014 Will we go back for Vlaar now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint_ed Posted 12 August, 2014 Share Posted 12 August, 2014 Will we go back for Vlaar now? I think we'll just sign Gardos. Can't see us buying two out and out centre backs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olallana Posted 12 August, 2014 Share Posted 12 August, 2014 So....do we hope Rojo fails so we might have dodged a bullet or want him to be a success to know that we are looking at the right players out there... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint_ed Posted 12 August, 2014 Share Posted 12 August, 2014 So....do we hope Rojo fails so we might have dodged a bullet or want him to be a success to know that we are looking at the right players out there... The former. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
positivepete Posted 12 August, 2014 Share Posted 12 August, 2014 How many South Americans have we ever signed that can be considered a success? Charles Miller made a big impact Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
washsaint Posted 12 August, 2014 Share Posted 12 August, 2014 Thank god we did not sign Rojo......if he is "going on strike" now this would have been a Lovren situation all over again for us in 12 months time if we had secured his transfer. At some stage, we (as a club and fans) have to accept that in todays market making a marquee signing is not necessarily a good thing. Didn't work with Osvaldo, wouldn't have worked with Rojo (judging by his character traits he is displaying) and won't work with the next one (e.g. hernandez). We should concentrate on signing young, hungry players that actually want to play for Saints. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 12 August, 2014 Share Posted 12 August, 2014 Thank god we did not sign Rojo......if he is "going on strike" now this would have been a Lovren situation all over again for us in 12 months time if we had secured his transfer. At some stage, we (as a club and fans) have to accept that in todays market making a marquee signing is not necessarily a good thing. Didn't work with Osvaldo, wouldn't have worked with Rojo (judging by his character traits he is displaying) and won't work with the next one (e.g. hernandez). We should concentrate on signing young, hungry players that actually want to play for Saints. Going on strike ? Rojo is owned at 75% by a venture capitalist, they probably tell him what they want him to do when an offer from a club like Utd comes in. They also manage his image rights. He's being told what to do by his owners as likely as not. Sporting have very little say in the matter, if we are to believe what we read the threshold for his contract with them to be interrupted has been reached so it is no longer valid. Deals like these are why 3rd party ownership is illegal in the premier league. You can't have an agency who are managing the player telling him what to do because they own him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ex Lion Tamer Posted 12 August, 2014 Share Posted 12 August, 2014 Thank god we did not sign Rojo......if he is "going on strike" now this would have been a Lovren situation all over again for us in 12 months time if we had secured his transfer. At some stage, we (as a club and fans) have to accept that in todays market making a marquee signing is not necessarily a good thing. Didn't work with Osvaldo, wouldn't have worked with Rojo (judging by his character traits he is displaying) and won't work with the next one (e.g. hernandez). We should concentrate on signing young, hungry players that actually want to play for Saints. We got an excellent year out of Lovren and made a profit. Seems worth it to me, regardless of how it ended Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chalkboy Posted 12 August, 2014 Share Posted 12 August, 2014 We should concentrate on signing young, hungry players that actually want to play for Saints. Spot on! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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