shurlock Posted 31 July, 2014 Share Posted 31 July, 2014 Rojo has been spoken to. My source tells me he doesn't think he'll be coming. Too much interest from elsewhere and feels we'll be priced out of a deal as others will offer far higher wages. Interesting to see De Vrij say that Utd were never in for him but other clubs were but he wouldn't name them. I'm reliably informed we were one of them. Again, our offer was no where near what others were offering. You should really open a Twitter account.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 31 July, 2014 Share Posted 31 July, 2014 Rojo has been spoken to. My source tells me he doesn't think he'll be coming. Too much interest from elsewhere and feels we'll be priced out of a deal as others will offer far higher wages. Interesting to see De Vrij say that Utd were never in for him but other clubs were but he wouldn't name them. I'm reliably informed we were one of them. Again, our offer was no where near what others were offering. Funny how your source has never ever said anything remotely positive, isn't it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 31 July, 2014 Share Posted 31 July, 2014 Twitter does contain millions of randoms spouting rubbish, but it also contains the actual people in question and journalists with good contacts. If you filter it correctly its far better than a "block down the pub told me... XYZ". Does it? If you hadn't pointed it out i genuinely would have had no idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidney Fudpucker the 3rd Posted 31 July, 2014 Share Posted 31 July, 2014 Rojo has been spoken to. My source tells me he doesn't think he'll be coming. Too much interest from elsewhere and feels we'll be priced out of a deal as others will offer far higher wages. Interesting to see De Vrij say that Utd were never in for him but other clubs were but he wouldn't name them. I'm reliably informed we were one of them. Again, our offer was no where near what others were offering. I was told pretty much the same thing. There may be an announcement later today as the club are currently locked in negotiations and are trying to get a couple of deals sealed. No names, sorry. Also been told to expect more loans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 31 July, 2014 Share Posted 31 July, 2014 I was told pretty much the same thing. There may be an announcement later today as the club are currently locked in negotiations and are trying to get a couple of deals sealed. No names, sorry. Also been told to expect more loans. Why are we getting a load of loans in? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cestrian Saint Posted 31 July, 2014 Share Posted 31 July, 2014 Funny how your source has never ever said anything remotely positive, isn't it? Really? So what about when my source (who I named) reported that Shaw was having talks with Chelsea? Something which several people rubbished and now JM has come out and said they talked to him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smackalec Posted 31 July, 2014 Share Posted 31 July, 2014 Why are we getting a load of loans in? Because there is minimal outlay. Gives the illusion that they've spent money and invested in the squad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
for_heaven's_Saint Posted 31 July, 2014 Share Posted 31 July, 2014 I've been told that certain people (no names, sorry) are making up imaginary sources and that in reality they have no more idea what's going on than the rest of us. Don't shoot the messenger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidney Fudpucker the 3rd Posted 31 July, 2014 Share Posted 31 July, 2014 Why are we getting a load of loans in? I'm told it's because we have several young players who Koeman believes aren't quite ready to make the step up. The loans are with an option to buy. It kind of makes sense. You get a player who can do a job in the short term. If the youth player doesn't make the grade then you sign up the loan Ayer on a permanent deal. If your youth option comes good then you can send the loan player back. I guess this is the train of thought with Bertrand & Targett? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avenue Saint Posted 31 July, 2014 Share Posted 31 July, 2014 skates cestrian and fudpucker forum regulars these days.... lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
for_heaven's_Saint Posted 31 July, 2014 Share Posted 31 July, 2014 Because there is minimal outlay. Gives the illusion that they've spent money and invested in the squad. Yup. No fans understand that loans don't involve paying a fee. Very clever from the club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_Abroad Posted 31 July, 2014 Share Posted 31 July, 2014 I've been told that certain people (no names' date=' sorry) are making up imaginary sources and that in reality they have no more idea what's going on than the rest of us. Don't shoot the messenger.[/quote'] If your mate hasn't sent it to you in a text, I don't believe it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ericofarabia Posted 31 July, 2014 Share Posted 31 July, 2014 Why are we getting a load of loans in? Because we are a bit strapped for cash. Maybe we could sell a player or two to make some money available for transfers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Without a Halo Posted 31 July, 2014 Share Posted 31 July, 2014 I'm told it's because we have several young players who Koeman believes aren't quite ready to make the step up. The loans are with an option to buy. It kind of makes sense. You get a player who can do a job in the short term. If the youth player doesn't make the grade then you sign up the loan Ayer on a permanent deal. If your youth option comes good then you can send the loan player back. I guess this is the train of thought with Bertrand & Targett? Or we don't want to spend the money? Kruger did say it would be spent on transfers or wages (loans) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angelman Posted 31 July, 2014 Share Posted 31 July, 2014 Yup. No fans understand that loans don't involve paying a fee. Very clever from the club. Does anyone know what, realistically, we are paying for Bertrand? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 31 July, 2014 Share Posted 31 July, 2014 Because we are a bit strapped for cash. Maybe we could sell a player or two to make some money available for transfers Really not going to challenge any perceptions about the club being for sale. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kpturner Posted 31 July, 2014 Share Posted 31 July, 2014 I've been told that certain people (no names' date=' sorry) are making up imaginary sources and that in reality they have no more idea what's going on than the rest of us. Don't shoot the messenger.[/quote'] No kidding! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 31 July, 2014 Share Posted 31 July, 2014 Really? So what about when my source (who I named) reported that Shaw was having talks with Chelsea? Something which several people rubbished and now JM has come out and said they talked to him. Okay then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super_Saint Posted 31 July, 2014 Share Posted 31 July, 2014 I've been told that certain people (no names' date=' sorry) are making up imaginary sources and that in reality they have no more idea what's going on than the rest of us. Don't shoot the messenger.[/quote'] I'm not sure I trust your sources on that one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petts Posted 31 July, 2014 Share Posted 31 July, 2014 I've been reliably informed that the New players will be humans, and theres a good chance that they can play football and they might be really good at it, or not Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 31 July, 2014 Share Posted 31 July, 2014 What when you could call team talk from a phone box? Sent from my HTC One_M8 using Tapatalk Sod that spending all day scanning teletext was much more fun Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 31 July, 2014 Share Posted 31 July, 2014 Really? So what about when my source (who I named) reported that Shaw was having talks with Chelsea? Something which several people rubbished and now JM has come out and said they talked to him. Considering Chelsea's interest was all over the media for a year or so before he left its hardly a ringing endorsement of your ITKness that your source said they were interested in him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angelman Posted 31 July, 2014 Share Posted 31 July, 2014 I get very bored of those who self aggrandize with their ITk-ness. Far better those that just say what they know without the self aggrandizement. It's all appreciated, but come on, we're all Saints fans (although I do have to question if the likes of Richmond are), no need to big things up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 31 July, 2014 Share Posted 31 July, 2014 I get very bored of those who self aggrandize with their ITk-ness. Far better those that just say what they know without the self aggrandizement. It's all appreciated, but come on, we're all Saints fans (although I do have to question if the likes of Richmond are), no need to big things up. I don't bother posting my snippets on here anymore. Far too many idiots quick to jump on you desperately hoping you're wrong or what you say doesn't happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRobbie Posted 31 July, 2014 Share Posted 31 July, 2014 Why are we getting a load of loans in? Cos we are not spending the transfer money as KLs selling and running? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRobbie Posted 31 July, 2014 Share Posted 31 July, 2014 I don't bother posting my snippets on here anymore. Far too many idiots quick to jump on you desperately hoping you're wrong or what you say doesn't happen. Must admit it is grating the amount of posters who are quick to criticise an opinion. It does put people off sharing gems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 31 July, 2014 Share Posted 31 July, 2014 Why are we getting a load of loans in? I reckon there's a tax reason to do with capital purchases. The loan fees can be offset directly against profits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadoldgit Posted 31 July, 2014 Share Posted 31 July, 2014 Cos we are not spending the transfer money as KLs selling and running? Or maybe not? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotty Posted 31 July, 2014 Share Posted 31 July, 2014 I reckon there's a tax reason to do with capital purchases. The loan fees can be offset directly against profits. So, I could loan in all my employees, and just write off their wages against my profits?? Bargain! (if I had any employees. Or profits. ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 31 July, 2014 Share Posted 31 July, 2014 So, I could loan in all my employees, and just write off their wages against my profits?? Bargain! (if I had any employees. Or profits. ) You already write off their wages anyway. Unless you have capitalised their contracts, i.e. given them a value in your books, then there would be no advantage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goatboy Posted 31 July, 2014 Share Posted 31 July, 2014 What an absolute load of old sh*te I have just wasted my time reading on this thread. Now that's being ITK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Wayman Posted 31 July, 2014 Share Posted 31 July, 2014 Any rumours of substance will be official leaks of that you can be assured. Nobody on here appear to act in such an official capacity even as a mole so the best thing to do is to regard it all as BS. With 17 days to go to ko the likelihood of SFC spending any of the money that has been raked in from transfers out is diminishing rapidly. None will be spent in my view all the clap-trap about imminent signings is simply PR spin to stop us gullible peasants revolting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leicestersaint Posted 31 July, 2014 Share Posted 31 July, 2014 I've been told we can have him but he'll cost £16 million. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint77 Posted 31 July, 2014 Share Posted 31 July, 2014 Any rumours of substance will be official leaks of that you can be assured. Nobody on here appear to act in such an official capacity even as a mole so the best thing to do is to regard it all as BS. With 17 days to go to ko the likelihood of SFC spending any of the money that has been raked in from transfers out is diminishing rapidly. None will be spent in my view all the clap-trap about imminent signings is simply PR spin to stop us gullible peasants revolting. 31 days not 17 until window shuts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waggy Posted 31 July, 2014 Share Posted 31 July, 2014 31 days not 17 until window shuts 31 days = glass half full 17 days = glass half empty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Without a Halo Posted 31 July, 2014 Share Posted 31 July, 2014 31 days not 17 until window shuts 80m left to spend in 31 days so I make that approx. 2.5m to spend every day! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waylander Posted 31 July, 2014 Share Posted 31 July, 2014 About what we sold Lovren for Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Without a Halo Posted 31 July, 2014 Share Posted 31 July, 2014 I thought English players cost more but we are being asked 16m by Sporting for Rojos a 24 year old Argentinian International according to the Express but they have just sold 21 year old Eric Dier apparently a Highly rated England Under 21 international defender to Spurs for only 4m. Maybe they think we are desperate? Also I wonder if Dier was on our scouts list if MoPo has bought him! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JxgrSaint Posted 31 July, 2014 Share Posted 31 July, 2014 I thought English players cost more but we are being asked 16m by Sporting for Rojos a 24 year old Argentinian International according to the Express but they have just sold 21 year old Eric Dier apparently a Highly rated England Under 21 international defender to Spurs for only 4m. Maybe they think we are desperate? Probably more to do with the fact that they get all of the £4m for Dier and only £4m of the £16m for Rojo as they only own 25% Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlakeySFC Posted 31 July, 2014 Share Posted 31 July, 2014 I've been told that Les is currently on Safari in Portugal trying to catch the elusive 'Rojo' he keeps throwing £11m at him but the gate-keepers will accept no less than £16m so Les is going home a sad man, albeit with a new tan on his already bald head. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Without a Halo Posted 31 July, 2014 Share Posted 31 July, 2014 Probably more to do with the fact that they get all of the £4m for Dier and only £4m of the £16m for Rojo as they only own 25% Surely we knew that when opening the negotiations and maybe we should have targeted Dier? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JxgrSaint Posted 31 July, 2014 Share Posted 31 July, 2014 Surely we knew that when opening the negotiations and maybe we should have targeted Dier? Maybe Koeman preferred Clasie as a DM option if needed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 31 July, 2014 Share Posted 31 July, 2014 (edited) Maybe Koeman preferred Clasie as a DM option if needed? Clasie is not a DM. Edited 31 July, 2014 by shurlock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JxgrSaint Posted 31 July, 2014 Share Posted 31 July, 2014 Classie is not a DM. Fair enough, only seen him play at the WC and thought that he came on for Fer, so assumed he played there... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmel Posted 31 July, 2014 Share Posted 31 July, 2014 (edited) Cestrian Saint....... Have you ever posted under another name? Always enjoyed the train to London :) :) Edited 31 July, 2014 by Gemmel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angelman Posted 31 July, 2014 Share Posted 31 July, 2014 Rojo has been spoken to. My source tells me he doesn't think he'll be coming. Too much interest from elsewhere and feels we'll be priced out of a deal as others will offer far higher wages. Interesting to see De Vrij say that Utd were never in for him but other clubs were but he wouldn't name them. I'm reliably informed we were one of them. Again, our offer was no where near what others were offering. There was an interview with a Dutch journo who said that Koeman took the captaincy away from him, and that de Vrij quite possibly never forgave him for that and wouldn't want to sign for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JxgrSaint Posted 1 August, 2014 Share Posted 1 August, 2014 Damn.... @alex_crook: Looks like #saintsfc have cooled their interest in Marcos Rojo after landing Ryan Bertrand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 1 August, 2014 Share Posted 1 August, 2014 Surely we knew that when opening the negotiations and maybe we should have targeted Dier? You'd think he'd at least be a target for us wouldn't you, England U21 international and all that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 1 August, 2014 Share Posted 1 August, 2014 Damn.... @alex_crook: Looks like #saintsfc have cooled their interest in Marcos Rojo after landing Ryan Bertrand Poor choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 1 August, 2014 Author Share Posted 1 August, 2014 Poor choice. Cheap choice? FWIW I don't think Bertrand means anything with regards to any potential deal here, as Rojo is just a left sided CB for Sporting, he was actually out of position at the WC - but showed he can play there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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