maxi_sopez Posted 17 January, 2009 Share Posted 17 January, 2009 It is clear just by reading this forum, that most saints fans are united in the desire to rid the club of lowe, and to change the manger. This was shown in the ground and on this forum today. I think if changes arent made in the next couple of weeks, were down. But what can we actually do, im sorry Lowe isnt going to walk due to the abuse, he has had it for years and doesnt seem to care..... So what we can do to actually take charge of the club and make sure Jan and Lowe are gone within weeks not the summer..... Instead of fighting each other lets generally try and find a way to end this crisis... Its the fans who will save this club no one else!! Im sorry if this has been said before, but i think there needs to be a genuine branstorming session, cos this has to be solved asap or Saints are dead Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 17 January, 2009 Share Posted 17 January, 2009 Lowe will walk if fans unite and protest at every oppurtunity. Boycott home games too - they will argue that the players need us, but lets face it they cant get much worse! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legod Third Coming Posted 17 January, 2009 Share Posted 17 January, 2009 What can be done? 12 bore... personally, I'm going to get p!ssed and forget about football forever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowballs2 Posted 17 January, 2009 Share Posted 17 January, 2009 the supporters are so apathetic that nothing will be done Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exit2 Posted 17 January, 2009 Share Posted 17 January, 2009 the supporters are so apathetic 100 % correct there! If this was any other club there would be major protests. 250 outside reception at the end should have been 2500 and more! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aintforever Posted 17 January, 2009 Share Posted 17 January, 2009 Nothing can be done, we are ****ed. All we can do is sit back, wait for relegation and administration and hope someone decent buys us after it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beatlesaint Posted 17 January, 2009 Share Posted 17 January, 2009 Lowe will walk if fans unite and protest at every oppurtunity. I really dont believe he will, his skin is much too thick for that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 17 January, 2009 Share Posted 17 January, 2009 we could spray "c4ck p1ss Partridge" on Lowes car Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legod Third Coming Posted 17 January, 2009 Share Posted 17 January, 2009 we could spray "c4ck p1ss Partridge" on Lowes car We could maintain his car paying close attention to the brakes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
humber Posted 17 January, 2009 Share Posted 17 January, 2009 zero. would any of you walk out of your house and give the keys to the first person you meet ?.this is what you want rl to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cambsaint Posted 17 January, 2009 Share Posted 17 January, 2009 I think the only answer is a stay away. Relatively easy to organise and makes the point that unless Lowe goes there will be very little gate money coming in and Barclays will have to act. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted 17 January, 2009 Share Posted 17 January, 2009 I'll tell you what can be done . . . Go back to basics! We need to revert to a 4-4-2 and play it simple. Get the experienced heads in to get us out of this mess. We need a strong spine to the side and build the youngsters around it. As a club, we're only heading one way if we continue in this manor. ------------------- Davis ---------------- James ------ Saiejs ----- Perry ----- Molyneux Lallana ---- Wotton ---- Surman ---- Holmes ---------- Saganowski -- Euell ------------ Subs Bialkowski/Forecast, Lancashire, Schneiderlin, Smith, McGoldrick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stax Posted 17 January, 2009 Share Posted 17 January, 2009 Why dont our players get changed in the away dressing room at st Marys and we can all cheer for the away team and give the players, the impression, they are playing away = more wins! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Red Bag Posted 17 January, 2009 Share Posted 17 January, 2009 Lowe will walk if fans unite and protest at every oppurtunity. Boycott home games too - they will argue that the players need us, but lets face it they cant get much worse! No he won't. He has too much money at stake. He's too thick skinned. Too arrogant. He won't go with just a few hundred or even thousand people chanting obsenities at him in or outside the ground. You want him out? Make it nasty. Make him fear for his safety everytime he walks out his front door. Not nice but its getting desperate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slickmick Posted 17 January, 2009 Share Posted 17 January, 2009 A nude protest, that would get some attention. Were the Itchen, were the itchen, got no clothes on over here. Damn good wine this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iowsaintsfan Posted 17 January, 2009 Share Posted 17 January, 2009 Go duck hunting with Woopert miss the duck and ........ problem solved?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 17 January, 2009 Share Posted 17 January, 2009 The thing is before today we weren't in a terrible position. People are only going to have mass protest if we are say bottom of the league or if we just lost to doncaster . If we lose to Norwich then I would expect a lot more protesting During and after the Swansea game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slickmick Posted 17 January, 2009 Share Posted 17 January, 2009 Go duck hunting with Woopert miss the duck and ........ problem solved?! His skins to thick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iowsaintsfan Posted 17 January, 2009 Share Posted 17 January, 2009 His skins to thick. :smt044 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Billy Posted 17 January, 2009 Share Posted 17 January, 2009 Lowe will walk if fans unite and protest at every oppurtunity. Boycott home games too - they will argue that the players need us, but lets face it they cant get much worse! Agreed, boycotting is the only way. They need the fans more than the fans need them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ewell Posted 17 January, 2009 Share Posted 17 January, 2009 If Lowe, Wilde and JP are still here at the next home game then my suggestion is as follows. Go and enjoy your pre match beer up as usual. Then turn up to the match and wait outside the front of St Mary's main entrance and sing and chant to your heart’s content. Do not enter the stadium until at least half time if at all! I know it will be hard especially on season ticket holders but a visual on mass protest is now needed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALWAYS_SFC Posted 17 January, 2009 Share Posted 17 January, 2009 If Lowe, Wilde and JP are still here at the next home game then my suggestion is as follows. Go and enjoy your pre match beer up as usual. Then turn up to the match and wait outside the front of St Mary's main entrance and sing and chant to your heart’s content. Do not enter the stadium until at least half time if at all! I know it will be hard especially on season ticket holders but a visual on mass protest is now needed. I was just saying the same thing to my lot at home... Great idea let`s do it.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leslie Charteris Posted 17 January, 2009 Share Posted 17 January, 2009 Sadly, nothing the fans do will make any difference. There will be no change until the three major shareholders sell up to someone who cares or has some money to invest. League 2 - here we come (do you think we're better than Leicester?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rocknrollman no2 Posted 17 January, 2009 Share Posted 17 January, 2009 I intend to protest at our next home game. A banner will be held up and if you want Lowe out,please feel free to join in the songs. Enough is enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 17 January, 2009 Share Posted 17 January, 2009 The only things that will work : Activity by the fans that makes Lowe's relationship with the club's creditors untenable. They will then force his removal. This means boycotting games. However, this tactic may also lead to administration. I for one would welcome it, but many are afraid of the idea. they will need to change their outlook for this to work. OR That Mike Wilde wakes up one morning and decides to withdraw his support for Lowe. I personally now consider Wilde to be bonkers, so this may happen tomorrow or it may never happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverSaint76 Posted 17 January, 2009 Share Posted 17 January, 2009 Hello all I'm new to this forum, have been a Saints fan for 24 years and have been to countless amounts of games home and away. I have even taken my children and turned them into avid Saints fans as well. I am beyond depressed and fed up with the state of OUR club and I think it's about time we stood up for what we believe in and pull OUR club off of it's backside and get it back to where it belongs, which is a respected, family orientated and loved club by all supporters with no divides. We need to unite as one and begin protests immediately (Non Violent) but with a bigger plan in mind. We need to stand up and be counted put our hands in our pockets once again and purchase the shares needed to oust the likes of Lowe and his pitiful sidekicks. I appreciate money is tight for everyone at the moment but I would be more than willing to find 50 - 100 quid from my pitiful wages if I thought it could be done. If we can purchase enough shares and vote on how we want the club to be run even if that means administration and relegation for the bigger cause then perhaps we can achieve what we all obviously want and perhaps attract some outside interest in the process. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Verbal Kint Posted 17 January, 2009 Share Posted 17 January, 2009 The only way to hurt Lowe is by boycotting home games. He won't care until the gates are drastically low. I think the key to this is getting exposure so my suggestion would be to get in contact with some ex players who would support the removal of Lowe. Dave Armstrong, Dave Merrington and Matt Le Tissier i'm certain would support the removal of Lowe and Wilde. Ask them to stage a meeting and publicly endorse a mass boycott of a home game and get some press exposure to the whole thing. Crowds are very low at the moment, but getting a crowd of a few thousand for a home game would certainly interest Barclays i would think. Especially if they knew the figure was low due to Rupert's presence at the club... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Landrew Posted 17 January, 2009 Share Posted 17 January, 2009 We keep saying it... Hell, I first said it last season just before Xmas, because I couldn't see anything but the downward trend continuing. But it is an absolute must - you have to boycott games en masse, backed up with a statement of intent that the fans will be back when the present regime goes - never to return. It may take 2,3 or even 5 games, and you won't get a completely empty stadium. But if the crowds go down to 2-3,000 and less as people get the idea, the Board will panic. And anything is better than the present slow and quiet death. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 17 January, 2009 Share Posted 17 January, 2009 The only way to hurt Lowe is by boycotting home games. He won't care until the gates are drastically low. Well, I did my bit to save Southampton Football Club by going to see Aldershot Town instead today. I hope the people that continue to go to SMS and give Lowe the justification he needs to stay put can sleep at night as they help force the club into oblivion. Stop going to home games. Why can't people see this oh so simple solution?????????? No pain, no gain Wake up and smell the coffee. FFS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 17 January, 2009 Share Posted 17 January, 2009 We keep saying it... Hell, I first said it last season just before Xmas, because I couldn't see anything but the downward trend continuing. But it is an absolute must - you have to boycott games en masse, backed up with a statement of intent that the fans will be back when the present regime goes - never to return. It may take 2,3 or even 5 games, and you won't get a completely empty stadium. But if the crowds go down to 2-3,000 and less as people get the idea, the Board will panic. And anything is better than the present slow and quiet death. Eureka!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRobbie Posted 17 January, 2009 Share Posted 17 January, 2009 1. Put in Crouch now to avoid a riot. (Replace Portaloo simulataneously with removing Lowe). 2. Declare the Club for sale in every media outlet going. 3. Keep fingers crossed. 4. Keep looking for a buyer. Simultaneously, once Crouch is put in (and openly looking for a buyer) we get behind the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John D Posted 18 January, 2009 Share Posted 18 January, 2009 Why not just boycott first 5 min at next game and then 10 the game after and so on. Fans can go into ground pre kick off etc and have a pint of **** beer just don't take your seat. The visual impact of an empty ground at kick off would send a clear message. All it would take is few fans at each entrance before the game to spread the word and then the message is clear without missing the game or wasting money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brightspark Posted 18 January, 2009 Share Posted 18 January, 2009 Why not just boycott first 5 min at next game and then 10 the game after and so on. Fans can go into ground pre kick off etc and have a pint of **** beer just don't take your seat. The visual impact of an empty ground at kick off would send a clear message. All it would take is few fans at each entrance before the game to spread the word and then the message is clear without missing the game or wasting money. Impossible to work, as the club will know the amount of tickets sold, and if there was a lack of presence in the ground, there would be a strong chance of a 15 minute delay for "crowd congestion" (traffic, can't get to ground - lol) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint_stevo Posted 18 January, 2009 Share Posted 18 January, 2009 i just dont care any more Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 18 January, 2009 Share Posted 18 January, 2009 Nothing can be done, all we can do is pray that the eccentric sods off and gets back into his own world, until then, our club is ****ed. Unless someone with cash comes along.... ....But yeah, that won't happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubai_phil Posted 18 January, 2009 Share Posted 18 January, 2009 Appoint a neutral Chairman who understands the position we are in THIS WEEK. Shareholders stay shareholders until they are bought out. Move heaven and earth to find buyers First two are simple, 3rd one is more tricky Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint In Exile Posted 18 January, 2009 Share Posted 18 January, 2009 Appoint a neutral Chairman who understands the position we are in THIS WEEK. Who would actually WANT the job in the current position though?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubai_phil Posted 18 January, 2009 Share Posted 18 January, 2009 Who would actually WANT the job in the current position though?? There is someone around who could at least help keep things together for a few weeks to stop the worst of the bitterness around the club until a better solution is found. But that means shareholders have to stop and think for a minute, not something we have seen too much of late. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forever a red and white Posted 18 January, 2009 Share Posted 18 January, 2009 pitch invasion with huge banner? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wes Tender Posted 18 January, 2009 Share Posted 18 January, 2009 We keep saying it... Hell, I first said it last season just before Xmas, because I couldn't see anything but the downward trend continuing. But it is an absolute must - you have to boycott games en masse, backed up with a statement of intent that the fans will be back when the present regime goes - never to return. It may take 2,3 or even 5 games, and you won't get a completely empty stadium. But if the crowds go down to 2-3,000 and less as people get the idea, the Board will panic. And anything is better than the present slow and quiet death. This is what I believe. I actually welcome another thread about a mass boycott as it will help spread ideas. Verbal Kint also mirrored a post made by CB Fry to a certain extent (there were other useful suggestions by CB as to how this could be made more effective). If there is anybody out there with connections and time to do it, I would call on them to read CB Fry's post again on the boycott thread and see whether action can be taken to put it into effect. For me, it was a comprehensive blueprint for effective action. Perhaps it could be the subject of a separate thread and a call for volunteers to come forward and help enact it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gordonToo Posted 18 January, 2009 Share Posted 18 January, 2009 Sometimes I wonder if Lowe actually cares anymore and really does believe there is no other option. It wouldn't surpise me either if he gets some form of perverse pleasure from upsetting the fan base. To take a trip to Scotland on the day of a critical home game is ****-taking of the highest order. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eelpie Posted 18 January, 2009 Share Posted 18 January, 2009 Lowe will walk if fans unite and protest at every oppurtunity. Boycott home games too - they will argue that the players need us, but lets face it they cant get much worse! This is not true. Lowe will not walk unless he loses an EGM vote, which isn't going to happen. Not even if Wilde (the root cause of our troubles and the only man who has enough votes to oust Lowe) calls for an EGM, and that will take weeks.. What has been missing is the Spirit of Southampton. We do need to fire this up if we are to be saved. And that means us the fans being there at matches. I want Lowe out as much as anyone, and right now. But sadly there is less likelihood of Lowe going than if we are relegated. We are stuffed. He has stitched us all up. Better to attend matches, but return to massed demos after (not during) the remainder of matches. Let the world know what we think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thelamprey Posted 18 January, 2009 Share Posted 18 January, 2009 Get ex players to talk to the current lot and get them to go on strike that would really p*ss off Lowe. Lets face it where would he find any more? We're down to the 'bare bones' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
um pahars Posted 18 January, 2009 Share Posted 18 January, 2009 This is not true. Lowe will not walk unless he loses an EGM vote, which isn't going to happen. Not even if Wilde (the root cause of our troubles and the only man who has enough votes to oust Lowe) calls for an EGM, and that will take weeks.. What has been missing is the Spirit of Southampton. We do need to fire this up if we are to be saved. And that means us the fans being there at matches. I want Lowe out as much as anyone, and right now. But sadly there is less likelihood of Lowe going than if we are relegated. We are stuffed. He has stitched us all up. Better to attend matches, but return to massed demos after (not during) the remainder of matches. Let the world know what we think. Pressure needs to be put on Askham, Richards and Wilde. They control something like 25% of the shares and without their support, Lowe's position is untenable. If they withdrew their support, then Lowe would be dead in the water and I don't believe that even someone as arrogant and stubborn as him would stay around if his closest allies withdraw their support. We have reached a watershed in the Club's history and just saying turn up and support the team is going to get us nowhere. We need change and we need it quickly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole Posted 18 January, 2009 Share Posted 18 January, 2009 We keep saying it... Hell, I first said it last season just before Xmas, because I couldn't see anything but the downward trend continuing. But it is an absolute must - you have to boycott games en masse, backed up with a statement of intent that the fans will be back when the present regime goes - never to return. It may take 2,3 or even 5 games, and you won't get a completely empty stadium. But if the crowds go down to 2-3,000 and less as people get the idea, the Board will panic. And anything is better than the present slow and quiet death. Well said. This is precisely what i've been saying for a long time. I've received lots of stick for sticking to my guns but the tables have now turned as i knew they always would. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALWAYS_SFC Posted 18 January, 2009 Share Posted 18 January, 2009 If Lowe, Wilde and JP are still here at the next home game then my suggestion is as follows. Go and enjoy your pre match beer up as usual. Then turn up to the match and wait outside the front of St Mary's main entrance and sing and chant to your heart’s content. Do not enter the stadium until at least half time if at all! I know it will be hard especially on season ticket holders but a visual on mass protest is now needed. As i said earlier this is a great idea by Euell and could be very effective, we will need a few to turn up early to speak to those who haven`t got to hear of the action. I will come early if required... Lots of ideas have been aired now,it is time to make the decision as to what we are going to do.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole Posted 18 January, 2009 Share Posted 18 January, 2009 Who would actually WANT the job in the current position though?? Leon Crouch. He must be brought back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRobbie Posted 18 January, 2009 Share Posted 18 January, 2009 This is not true. Lowe will not walk unless he loses an EGM vote, which isn't going to happen. Not even if Wilde (the root cause of our troubles and the only man who has enough votes to oust Lowe) calls for an EGM, and that will take weeks.. What has been missing is the Spirit of Southampton. We do need to fire this up if we are to be saved. And that means us the fans being there at matches. I want Lowe out as much as anyone, and right now. But sadly there is less likelihood of Lowe going than if we are relegated. We are stuffed. He has stitched us all up. Better to attend matches, but return to massed demos after (not during) the remainder of matches. Let the world know what we think. Ironically, if Lowe was to be permanently removed I suspect they'd be a change in fans atitudes. Its a no-brainer in my opinion. Lowe goes and sells up leaving the club forever, fans return to support or at best we retain 15000 hard core fans every game but get behind the team. ...oh yeah and Lowe's departure as plc Chair/Director of Football is of course accompanied by the immediate sacking of JP and replacement by any CCC manager. SURVIVAL IN THE CCC IS ALL THAT MATTERS. WE WILL NOT SURVIVE WITH LOWE/JP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorpe-le-Saint Posted 18 January, 2009 Share Posted 18 January, 2009 I'm not going to boycott going to sms, purely because (to pull out a Football Factory line...unfortunatly) what else am I going to do on a saturday? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Billy Posted 18 January, 2009 Share Posted 18 January, 2009 How about (if at all possible), pay to go into SMS so we dont cripple the club financially, but stay inside the concourses rather than sitting down. Effectively the stadium is empty but not out of pocket. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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