What Is Happening To Our Country?

[Gloucester Saint]

7 minutes ago, JohnnyShearer2.0 said:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cm25yv7z3jko

Absolute cu**s. Got nothing better to do, know there will be few consequences apart from the ones caught and where are the parents in all this.

 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/crk16j2j1ygo

 

A M&S boss has a point.

These behaviours seem to go in cycles but SM definitely has a role in them mobilising at scale. Seeing increased railway trespass disruption as well. BTP need to cut out the negotiation, one warning get off the railway, second here’s a taser I’ll use it, ok then crackle. Couldn’t care less if they’re 18 or under. Do as you’re told.

It would send a message and set boundaries. In the larger retail incidents, a good deterrent is to mess around with their futures eg delay driving licence eligibility into their 20s. I’d be happy for any of the parents on benefits (recognising when I was that age in the late 80s onwards kids in trouble were from a range of backgrounds) to get a suspended reduction for first incident and 3 months at 10% for the next. Letting the whole family down hits home. 

[JohnnyShearer2.0]

39 minutes ago, Gloucester Saint said:

These behaviours seem to go in cycles but SM definitely has a role in them mobilising at scale. Seeing increased railway trespass disruption as well. BTP need to cut out the negotiation, one warning get off the railway, second here’s a taser I’ll use it, ok then crackle. Couldn’t care less if they’re 18 or under. Do as you’re told.

It would send a message and set boundaries. In the larger retail incidents, a good deterrent is to mess around with their futures eg delay driving licence eligibility into their 20s. I’d be happy for any of the parents on benefits (recognising when I was that age in the late 80s onwards kids in trouble were from a range of backgrounds) to get a suspended reduction for first incident and 3 months at 10% for the next. Letting the whole family down hits home. 

Definitely agree with social media etc making it easier to do things like this. 

Some pepper spray should sort them out or make the parents culpable in some form.

The M&S director has a point, police are seemingly letting petty theft pass, leading to more people becoming emboldened to do more.

[Gloucester Saint]

2 hours ago, JohnnyShearer2.0 said:

Definitely agree with social media etc making it easier to do things like this. 

Some pepper spray should sort them out or make the parents culpable in some form.

The M&S director has a point, police are seemingly letting petty theft pass, leading to more people becoming emboldened to do more.

Prosecutions coming back in for offences under £200 I think I read.

[Turkish]

Is there no way we can blame this on Trump, Farage, Tommy Robinson on Katy Hopkins?

[Holmes_and_Watson]

5 minutes ago, Turkish said:

Is there no way we can blame this on Trump, Farage, Tommy Robinson on Katy Hopkins?

You mean those dangerous, right wing populists, who undermine decent, honest values, caring only for themselves and nothing for the feral anarchy their statements whip up in people not intelligent enough to read the Grauniad or listen to LBC?

Why, it would strange not to blame them. 

[egg]

4 hours ago, Gloucester Saint said:

These behaviours seem to go in cycles but SM definitely has a role in them mobilising at scale. Seeing increased railway trespass disruption as well. BTP need to cut out the negotiation, one warning get off the railway, second here’s a taser I’ll use it, ok then crackle. Couldn’t care less if they’re 18 or under. Do as you’re told.

It would send a message and set boundaries. In the larger retail incidents, a good deterrent is to mess around with their futures eg delay driving licence eligibility into their 20s. I’d be happy for any of the parents on benefits (recognising when I was that age in the late 80s onwards kids in trouble were from a range of backgrounds) to get a suspended reduction for first incident and 3 months at 10% for the next. Letting the whole family down hits home. 

I can't agree on the family benefits punishment at all. It's a collective punishment, and singles out benefit supported families for different treatment to non benefit supported families. You can't punish benefit class families in a way that you can't punish a middle class family. That's wholly unfair. 

Hitting kids later in life is something I can get on board with though. 

[Holmes_and_Watson]

2 minutes ago, egg said:

I can't agree on the family benefits punishment at all. It's a collective punishment, and singles out benefit supported families for different treatment to non benefit supported families. You can't punish benefit class families in a way that you can't punish a middle class family. That's wholly unfair. 

Hitting kids later in life is something I can get on board with though. 

Tomorrow's news... today!

A police spokesperson said that the punch that broke the nose of Timmy Smith, 24, from Clapham, and gave him concussion, was not police abuse.

The officer was merely carrying out a delayed punishment following Smith's anti social behaviour on Clapham high street, seven years ago.

The spokesperson also said that delayed punishment punches would still be given to women, supporting equality acts. This, despite a significant number of Met officers signing up to carry out the punishments, and concerns about their reasons for doing so.

[whelk]

36 minutes ago, egg said:

I can't agree on the family benefits punishment at all. It's a collective punishment, and singles out benefit supported families for different treatment to non benefit supported families. You can't punish benefit class families in a way that you can't punish a middle class family. That's wholly unfair. 

Hitting kids later in life is something I can get on board with though. 

Taser them all, then hit them with water cannon, then round them up and drop them in Iran with only fruit knives to defend themselves.

[egg]

17 minutes ago, whelk said:

Taser them all, then hit them with water cannon, then round them up and drop them in Iran with only fruit knives to defend themselves.

That's acceptable - and consistent. 

[Holmes_and_Watson]

23 minutes ago, whelk said:

Taser them all, then hit them with water cannon, then round them up and drop them in Iran with only fruit knives to defend themselves.

Fruit knives?!

Lucky!

Why, when I was a kid, my library book was a day late. I was beaten unconscious by police batons, dropped into Iraq, and had to use my head as a battering ram to topple Saddam's regime!

Fruit knives only perpetuate knife culture, and these ruffians don't deserve 'em!

[Turkish]

1 hour ago, Holmes_and_Watson said:

You mean those dangerous, right wing populists, who undermine decent, honest values, caring only for themselves and nothing for the feral anarchy their statements whip up in people not intelligent enough to read the Grauniad or listen to LBC?

Why, it would strange not to blame them. 

We should bring back the stocks and let people throw rotten fruit at them. Or alternatively we could put memes on their phones and ask them to enter a caption competition, that would end all the conflict 

[Lord Duckhunter]

On 02/04/2026 at 15:05, badgerx16 said:

Unelected PM.

We don’t elect PM’s, so they’re all “unelected”. 

[badgerx16]

18 minutes ago, Lord Duckhunter said:

We don’t elect PM’s, so they’re all “unelected”. 

True, but when voting in a GE you take the position that the leader of the party you vote for is in effect your choice for PM. Everybody knew that Gordon Brown was Blair's anointed sucessor, Truss was foisted on the country against the wishes of even the Tory MPs.

Edited 2 hours ago by badgerx16

[sadoldgit]

It was bad enough when the kids were stabbing each other.

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2026/apr/03/three-teenagers-arrested-after-14-year-old-boy-shot-dead-in-south-east-london

[whelk]

58 minutes ago, sadoldgit said:

It was bad enough when the kids were stabbing each other.

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2026/apr/03/three-teenagers-arrested-after-14-year-old-boy-shot-dead-in-south-east-london

Don’t you want to wait for the colour of the perpetrators before posting?