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coalman

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Up to 7th after that. I won't lie. I feel asleep the 2nd half. Which is a shame as Rangers picked up 3 points for their performance.

Holmes_and_Watson

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St Mirren, across the half, looked more likely to get a second than Rangers. Loads of possession but, as the stat posted above showed, 0 shots until Curtis came on. 

Martin uncharacteristically throwing some forwards on unsettled St Mirren. Although the commentator said the home team were hanging on, that wasn't really the case. They just had to defend for a bit. Rangers offered practically nothing in the middle. 

For all Martin doing his increased tempo sign, his side plodded through that match. At the end a few of them looked puffed out. The home side had more energy. A worrying trend in Martin teams is how lightweight they are. Today was no exception. They were second best a lot of the time, offering little passes against stronger opponents keener to drive forward.

As whelk said, they are unbeaten. But that performance is only going to reinforce the angry voices.

The first Old Firm next week at Ibrox. We already know what Martin is going to do. But can his players make it click?

Today, Fernandez will get some blame. Martin will be proud of the possession, and of Curtis, while bemoaning the lack of quick transition.

trousers

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2 minutes ago, Holmes_and_Watson said:

The first Old Firm next week at Ibrox. We already know what Martin is going to do

He could always do what he did whenever we played Leeds in our championship season, i.e. largely abandon 'Russball' for one match only.... 

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Holmes_and_Watson

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1 minute ago, trousers said:

He could always do what he did whenever we played Leeds in our championship season, i.e. largely abandon 'Russball' for one match only.... 

In the first half of today's RussBall, St Mirren actually came into the Rangers half in decent numbers. Teams know they might have a chance. That should actually help Martin. 

But Rangers had no clue on what to do with it. St Mirren didn't allow themselves to get dragged about the park. No decent.y coached team will.

No one dropped in to get the pass from defence regularly. By the time they got it over half way, St Mirren had long since dropped back too. 

Transition from midfield to attack was non existent all game. As expected with no central striker or creative central midfielder.

They got most joy from Meghoma, and the home side soon targeted that, as they had plenty of time to react.

Meghoma & Gassama on one side with Tavanier and Antman on the other. Soutter and partner at the back, as Fernandez looked dodgy today.

Rothwell is a holding midfielder at best, needing runners either side, to link up with an attack that needs a fit Dessers back in it.

And boy, do they need to get fitter than a Martin training regime.

Fabrice29

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14 minutes ago, trousers said:

He could always do what he did whenever we played Leeds in our championship season, i.e. largely abandon 'Russball' for one match only.... 

Play 5 at the back and Armstrong up front on his own. Not a bad idea. ;) 

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coalman

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The problem is they don't have enough of the ball. Apparently. He's thrown at least 2 of his players under the bus. The important thing is it's not his fault or his tactics.

OttawaSaint

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I would have thought that the humbling his system got here would have resonated with him but there he is peddling the same snake oil at Rangers.

I looked at a Rangers match thread and it's all the same comments we had.

Wtf were the Rangers bosses thinking bringing in this clown?

Osvaldorama

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13 minutes ago, Lord Duckhunter said:

😂 Chris Sutton’s got his number. Lego deflecting blame from himself. Reckons it’s the second time he’s done it already. 


That’s not like him!

 

Oh wait 

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trousers

trousers

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56 minutes ago, Fabrice29 said:

Play 5 at the back and Armstrong up front on his own. Not a bad idea. ;) 

Worrying signs indeed... that Still could be as inept as Martin... ;)

stknowle

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3 hours ago, coalman said:

One thing that's come out of his new job is I'm watching a lot more Scottish football than I used to. Which I'm not sure is a good or a bad thing.

I wouldn’t worry about it too much, if his new job is the only reason you’re watching it you won’t be watching it long.

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tdmickey3

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2 hours ago, Fabrice29 said:

Play 5 at the back and Armstrong up front on his own. Not a bad idea. ;) 

Nah, the V formation is the way to go, no need for a striker, that was marvellous stuff

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danjosaint

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Just heard on talksport im sure they said it kicked off as a rangers sub refused to come on and him and rusty had words, quite a crackley reception as im in a valley in Cornwall but im sure that's what was said 

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Gloucester Saint

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9 minutes ago, danjosaint said:

Just heard on talksport im sure they said it kicked off as a rangers sub refused to come on and him and rusty had words, quite a crackley reception as im in a valley in Cornwall but im sure that's what was said 

Being reported that he wanted to bring Hamza Igamene on but he told Martin he was injured. This after a bid for him was turned down.

Lord Duckhunter

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14 minutes ago, Gloucester Saint said:

Being reported that he wanted to bring Hamza Igamene on but he told Martin he was injured. This after a bid for him was turned down.

That’s what he said. 
 

One of the Jocko pundits said the disagreement should have remained in the dressing room, which is when Sutton reckoned he brought it up to deflect criticism of his tactics. 

Turkish

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11 minutes ago, Lord Duckhunter said:

That’s what he said. 
 

One of the Jocko pundits said the disagreement should have remained in the dressing room, which is when Sutton reckoned he brought it up to deflect criticism of his tactics. 

He also said a lot of the players still need convincing of the right way and are not all doing the right things all of the time 

all the players fault as usual 

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gurru991

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2 hours ago, trousers said:

Worrying signs indeed... that Still could be as inept as Martin... ;)

I honestly doubt that is possible !!

Holmes_and_Watson

Holmes_and_Watson

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Post match comments included:-

Some players are not all in, thinking of futures away from the club.

They are a sometimes team, as a result. They need to be all in. 

At the moment, there is too much flexibility. They all have to stick to the plan.

Lots of games in the same period as he'd normally have 3.

Next week gives them the chance to bring the gap back to 3, and it's close again.

Interesting to read about the sub above. There was a lot of delaying before Rangers brought on some subs. I was wondering what was going on.

It's no different than it was with us. They are all having to relearn to fit within Martin's system. When they can't it's their fault for not being all in. 

They've a week to bring in Smallbone. 🙂

 

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