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4 minutes ago, ErwinK1961 said:

Not sure we need another box to box midfielder at the moment tbh. 

Still think we’re missing a proper defensive midfielder.

Think we desperately need a creative one like the Armenian.

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We want both Rudoni and Spertsyan and Spors is aiming to get them done by the end of the week. 

Aribo will be gone as already mentioned and Smallbone would head out too. Matsuki on loan again. 

So central midfield options would be Charles, Downes, Fernandes (sale dependant), Spertsyan, Rudoni and Sesay. 

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Just now, Saint_lambden said:

We want both Rudoni and Spertsyan and Spors is aiming to get them done by the end of the week. 

Aribo will be gone as already mentioned and Smallbone would head out too. Matsuki on loan again. 

So central midfield options would be Charles, Downes, Fernandes (sale dependant), Spertsyan, Rudoni and Sesay. 

Do we need six central midfield options? 

Posted
17 minutes ago, saintant said:

He's far from the sharpest tool in the box.

He’s a really nice bloke tbf. See quite a bit of him as he lives near me, we play Padel at the same club

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Just now, Saint_lambden said:

We want both Rudoni and Spertsyan and Spors is aiming to get them done by the end of the week. 

Aribo will be gone as already mentioned and Smallbone would head out too. Matsuki on loan again. 

So central midfield options would be Charles, Downes, Fernandes (sale dependant), Spertsyan, Rudoni and Sesay. 

Both Rudoni and Spertsyan would be great business. Fingers crossed.

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Just now, Saint_lambden said:

We want both Rudoni and Spertsyan and Spors is aiming to get them done by the end of the week. 

Aribo will be gone as already mentioned and Smallbone would head out too. Matsuki on loan again. 

So central midfield options would be Charles, Downes, Fernandes (sale dependant), Spertsyan, Rudoni and Sesay. 

Is there more to the Spertsyan story than is being made out then ?

Some say we’re pushing, others don’t

Also is this Ugly inside 3 x loan signings stuff bollocks ?

Posted
Just now, hypochondriac said:

Do we need six central midfield options? 

I guess its a bonus if MF remains, if not its 5

Sesay could be loaned out ?

Also could push to a 3 man midfield either as a flat 3 or 2 holding and a 10

If I was to guess ?

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Just now, Turkish said:

He’s a really nice bloke tbf. See quite a bit of him as he lives near me, we play Padel at the same club

Ah, was tongue in cheek cos I obviously know nothing about him. I take it back 🙂

Posted
3 minutes ago, hypochondriac said:

Do we need six central midfield options? 

Sesay won't be involved much if we get the two in so that leaves five assuming Fernandes doesn't go. That's good midfield options which we'll need over a long season.

Posted
7 minutes ago, Smirking_Saint said:

Is there more to the Spertsyan story than is being made out then ?

Some say we’re pushing, others don’t

Also is this Ugly inside 3 x loan signings stuff bollocks ?

Doubt it, the poster is usually spot on. It was him that said we had been sold to SR weeks before it happened 

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11 minutes ago, Saint_lambden said:

We want both Rudoni and Spertsyan and Spors is aiming to get them done by the end of the week. 

Aribo will be gone as already mentioned and Smallbone would head out too. Matsuki on loan again. 

So central midfield options would be Charles, Downes, Fernandes (sale dependant), Spertsyan, Rudoni and Sesay. 

Signing both Rudoni and Spertysan would be pretty impressive! Just can’t see Fernandes staying unfortunately, would LOVE to be proven wrong on that.

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3 minutes ago, Smirking_Saint said:

Is there more to the Spertsyan story than is being made out then ?

Some say we’re pushing, others don’t

Also is this Ugly inside 3 x loan signings stuff bollocks ?

As far as I know, he’s agreed on personal terms and is happy to move, just the payment to Krasnodar which is the final bit. They want a higher fee up front than we’re currently offering. 

Bemused about the 3 loans rumour as my POC hasn’t heard anything about that. The GK we want to bring in (don’t know who) will likely be a loan and maybe a right-back like Gilchrist from Chelsea who can’t get in the starting XI of a PL side but they are not priorities right now so likely later in the window. 

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Posted (edited)
15 minutes ago, Saint_lambden said:

We want both Rudoni and Spertsyan and Spors is aiming to get them done by the end of the week. 

Aribo will be gone as already mentioned and Smallbone would head out too. Matsuki on loan again. 

So central midfield options would be Charles, Downes, Fernandes (sale dependant), Spertsyan, Rudoni and Sesay. 

Charles, Downes, Fernandes, Rudoni and Spertsyan is a fuck off midfield for the Championship.

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2 minutes ago, Saint_lambden said:

As far as I know, he’s agreed on personal terms and is happy to move, just the payment to Krasnodar which is the final bit. They want a higher fee up front than we’re currently offering. 

Bemused about the 3 loans rumour as my POC hasn’t heard anything about that. The GK we want to bring in (don’t know who) will likely be a loan and maybe a right-back like Gilchrist from Chelsea who can’t get in the starting XI of a PL side but they are not priorities right now so likely later in the window. 

Appreciate it mate 

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On Smallbone, Coventry quite like him but it’s rare for money plus player deals to be done nowadays so suspect Rudoni to us and him to them would be separate (if they take their interest any further). 

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47 minutes ago, Turkish said:

Doubt it, the poster is usually spot on. It was him that said we had been sold to SR weeks before it happened 

It would work 

Aribo, Dibling, Smallbone, Edozie, ABK, one lb, Bree off 

Rudoni, Spertsyan, loanee rb, loanee gk and loanee left winger

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2 minutes ago, hypochondriac said:

It would work 

Aribo, Dibling, Smallbone, Edozie, ABK, one lb, Bree off 

Rudoni, Spertsyan, loanee rb, loanee gk and loanee left winger

Definitely need a RB. Sugawara is a liability, been shite both games so far left Edwards exposed Saturday and doesn’t even appear to be that good going forward which was meant to be his strength. 

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1 hour ago, Saint_lambden said:

We want both Rudoni and Spertsyan and Spors is aiming to get them done by the end of the week. 

Aribo will be gone as already mentioned and Smallbone would head out too. Matsuki on loan again. 

So central midfield options would be Charles, Downes, Fernandes (sale dependant), Spertsyan, Rudoni and Sesay. 

Has your contact confirmed that to you in the last couple of hours? I would be amazed and pleasantly surprised if we were after both, here’s hoping! Thanks again for sharing your snippets 

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From watching a good amount of clips of Rudoni, he definitely isnt a central midfielder for Cov in the way Downes is for us.

Almost all of his assists are crosses, either from right side or from set plays. He has a nice left foot and takes a good inswinging corner.

Most of his goals are from inside the box, often arriving to get on the end of crosses usually running from a central or inside-right position. Can finish well off both feet.

Seems very different from Spertsyan who looks like a traditional number 10 creative player.

Rudoni strikes me more as someone who could play off the right and drift infield and would give space for a fullback to overlap. But isn't really a huge ball carrier - so might balance nicely with a player like Robinson on the other side - although potentially a lack of pace across the front positions.

Getting business done before selling Dibling I imagine.

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Posted
24 minutes ago, hypochondriac said:

It would work 

Aribo, Dibling, Smallbone, Edozie, ABK, one lb, Bree off 

Rudoni, Spertsyan, loanee rb, loanee gk and loanee left winger

Bazunu /loanee keeper

Loanee rb THB Stephens/Quarshie manning 

Downes Charles/Rudoni 

Spertsyan/Fernandes 

Armstrong Robinson/loanee winger 

Archer/Stewart/Downs

Other than a couple of question marks over our attack, that's a hell of a championship team if they pulled it off. I can't personally see us signing all those and not selling Fernandes though. 

Posted
11 minutes ago, Willo of Whiteley said:

Am I the only one who doesn’t see the hype around Jack Rudoni?

 

Genuine question: What would it take to impress you if a 24yo attacking midfielder - with 10 goals and 13 assists in our division last season, for a team that didn’t even get promoted - can’t impress you?

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13 hours ago, hypochondriac said:

Cheers for posting Christophe and keep on contributing if you want to. I'm not going to start metaphorically sucking you off though. I'm sure you're old enough to look after yourself. 

I'm 15, please blow me.

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17 minutes ago, CSA96 said:

Genuine question: What would it take to impress you if a 24yo attacking midfielder - with 10 goals and 13 assists in our division last season, for a team that didn’t even get promoted - can’t impress you?

It’s purely on the occasions I’ve seen him play. Dead ball-wise he was alright but physically he looked a little out-muscled for someone of his height.

In terms of his goal/assist contributions I’m not hugely familiar with, I’m just basing it on what I’ve physically seen of him.

It also doesn’t strike me as someone that we need necessarily, especially if we were to keep Matty Fernandes, but again I’m basing that on today’s squad depth.

I’d argue we need pace out wide, something JR isn’t blessed with a lot of also.

Everyone will have their own opinion, I’m just basing mine on the odd games I’ve seen.

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17 minutes ago, Willo of Whiteley said:

It’s purely on the occasions I’ve seen him play. Dead ball-wise he was alright but physically he looked a little out-muscled for someone of his height.

In terms of his goal/assist contributions I’m not hugely familiar with, I’m just basing it on what I’ve physically seen of him.

It also doesn’t strike me as someone that we need necessarily, especially if we were to keep Matty Fernandes, but again I’m basing that on today’s squad depth.

I’d argue we need pace out wide, something JR isn’t blessed with a lot of also.

Everyone will have their own opinion, I’m just basing mine on the odd games I’ve seen.

Fair enough, think it's not difficult to understand the excitement around the prospect of signing him. We desperately need a 10 who can give us goals and assists, he is that sort of player. I would strongly contest against the idea that we don't need a player like him

Not only that, it looks like we might, for once, just be going for the known quantity, the more expensive option and someone who already has a track record in our division and would see us trying to take a promotion rival's best player in the process. I'm not surprised people are excited about it

I haven't watched tonnes of him but he has impressed me plenty. Reading through the Coventry forums also reinforces that for me, given they are talking about kicking off if he is sold and that they think it would be a disastrous end to the window and kill their season almost immediately

Tactically, I have the perception that he plays far closer to the strikers than a midfielder like Fernandes (or anyone else we have, frankly) - but I'll need to take a closer look

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41 minutes ago, CSA96 said:

Fair enough, think it's not difficult to understand the excitement around the prospect of signing him. We desperately need a 10 who can give us goals and assists, he is that sort of player. I would strongly contest against the idea that we don't need a player like him

Not only that, it looks like we might, for once, just be going for the known quantity, the more expensive option and someone who already has a track record in our division and would see us trying to take a promotion rival's best player in the process. I'm not surprised people are excited about it

I haven't watched tonnes of him but he has impressed me plenty. Reading through the Coventry forums also reinforces that for me, given they are talking about kicking off if he is sold and that they think it would be a disastrous end to the window and kill their season almost immediately

Tactically, I have the perception that he plays far closer to the strikers than a midfielder like Fernandes (or anyone else we have, frankly) - but I'll need to take a closer look

When we beat Huddersfield 5-3 under Martin he was one of the best players on the pitch and really stood out for them. 

Posted
6 hours ago, revolution saint said:

Charles, Downes, Fernandes, Rudoni and Spertsyan is a fuck off midfield for the Championship.

Yeah honestly that is a fucking sick midfield, something we deserve after the recent dross, my balls are already tingling.

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6 hours ago, CSA96 said:

Fair enough, think it's not difficult to understand the excitement around the prospect of signing him. We desperately need a 10 who can give us goals and assists, he is that sort of player. I would strongly contest against the idea that we don't need a player like him

Not only that, it looks like we might, for once, just be going for the known quantity, the more expensive option and someone who already has a track record in our division and would see us trying to take a promotion rival's best player in the process. I'm not surprised people are excited about it

I haven't watched tonnes of him but he has impressed me plenty. Reading through the Coventry forums also reinforces that for me, given they are talking about kicking off if he is sold and that they think it would be a disastrous end to the window and kill their season almost immediately

Tactically, I have the perception that he plays far closer to the strikers than a midfielder like Fernandes (or anyone else we have, frankly) - but I'll need to take a closer look

Why have none of the promoted sides bought him is the question I ask? Have they all missed something or is he just one of those expensive championship players...like Piroe.

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7 hours ago, hypochondriac said:

Bazunu /loanee keeper

Loanee rb THB Stephens/Quarshie manning 

Downes Charles/Rudoni 

Spertsyan/Fernandes 

Armstrong Robinson/loanee winger 

Archer/Stewart/Downs

Other than a couple of question marks over our attack, that's a hell of a championship team if they pulled it off. I can't personally see us signing all those and not selling Fernandes though. 

I don't know much about Rudoni but is he competing with Shea? I see Shea as a clear first choice this season (more than FD).

Is Spertsyan competing with Fernandes? If so, is there anyway we keep MF and spend on Spertsyan?

Posted
7 hours ago, Turkish said:

Definitely need a RB. Sugawara is a liability, been shite both games so far left Edwards exposed Saturday and doesn’t even appear to be that good going forward which was meant to be his strength. 

Agree. He’s really poor. Played like a pub player v Brighton. Positional poor. Bad at passing. Need better. 

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8 minutes ago, West end Saints said:

I don't know much about Rudoni but is he competing with Shea? I see Shea as a clear first choice this season (more than FD).

Is Spertsyan competing with Fernandes? If so, is there anyway we keep MF and spend on Spertsyan?

I don't think it's competing so much but that's why I said I consider it unlikely Fernandes if staying. If we sign Spertsyan then he's playing as an attacking midfielder. If that's the case then where is Fernandes playing? Instead of Downes? Because Downes is our only recognised holding midfielder so if Fernandes is playing in the middle it doesn't leave a lot of room. Similarly Rudoni if he's not competing with Spertsyan then is he Armstrong competition on the right? 

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3 minutes ago, DT said:

Agree. He’s really poor. Played like a pub player v Brighton. Positional poor. Bad at passing. Need better. 

I was surprised how poor he was last season and worried the traits he showed (poor touch and passing) would be an issue this season too. We got him for buttons and so far I can see why.

I keep reading we are ok at right back but we really aren't. Its a crucial position in a 352 and Bree isn't mobile enough. 

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3 minutes ago, Chez said:

I was surprised how poor he was last season and worried the traits he showed (poor touch and passing) would be an issue this season too. We got him for buttons and so far I can see why.

I keep reading we are ok at right back but we really aren't. Its a crucial position in a 352 and Bree isn't mobile enough. 

hopefully, Still will revert back to a 4231

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7 hours ago, hypochondriac said:

I don't think it's competing so much but that's why I said I consider it unlikely Fernandes if staying. If we sign Spertsyan then he's playing as an attacking midfielder. If that's the case then where is Fernandes playing? Instead of Downes? Because Downes is our only recognised holding midfielder so if Fernandes is playing in the middle it doesn't leave a lot of room. Similarly Rudoni if he's not competing with Spertsyan then is he Armstrong competition on the right? 

Is Fernandes better in the more traditional central midfield role or played further forward? If it's him and Charles, then a lack of bite could be an issue.

 

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1 minute ago, Chez said:

Is Fernandes better in the more traditional central midfield role or played further forward? If it's him and Charles, then a lack of bit could be an issue.

 

I'd rather play Fernandes further forward but it seems from Still's comments that he sees him more as a central midfielder and that coukd be an issue fitting all these players in the team. Personally I'd like a proper Downes alternative. 

Posted
5 minutes ago, Wade Garrett said:

We don’t look great at CF.  We should be all over Danny Ings on a free.  Much better than what we currently have.

We aren't signing another striker unless a couple (at least) depart and there hasn't been much noise. As we get closer to the end of the window I'm sure some teams will look to loan a few.

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1 minute ago, AlexLaw76 said:

hopefully, Still will revert back to a 4231

I'd imagine he'll do that once he has a squad of suitable players. Although we've been a bit crap so far, what I like is that Still has adapted his tactics to suit the players he's got. Give him the midfielders that are being linked, and he'll have all sorts of options for a 4231/433, or even a back 3 if he wants to play that from time to time. 

I get the feeling that SR want to give it a bloody good go this season, it's just whether we can persuade players to move. 

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Just now, egg said:

I'd imagine he'll do that once he has a squad of suitable players. Although we've been a bit crap so far, what I like is that Still has adapted his tactics to suit the players he's got. Give him the midfielders that are being linked, and he'll have all sorts of options for a 4231/433, or even a back 3 if he wants to play that from time to time. 

I get the feeling that SR want to give it a bloody good go this season, it's just whether we can persuade players to move. 

seems that way to me, also. 

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Just now, hypochondriac said:

I'd rather play Fernandes further forward but it seems from Still's comments that he sees him more as a central midfielder and that coukd be an issue fitting all these players in the team. Personally I'd like a proper Downes alternative. 

We need a Spertsyan creative type. I agree, another very mobile destroyer would be handy too. I wasn't overly impressed by Sesay, but a young emerging talent as backup is ideal so hopefully he can keep improving.

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5 minutes ago, egg said:

I get the feeling that SR want to give it a bloody good go this season, it's just whether we can persuade players to move. 

There is no choice but to go for it. Its financial Armageddon after the first two parachute payments. 

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17 minutes ago, hypochondriac said:

I don't think it's competing so much but that's why I said I consider it unlikely Fernandes if staying. If we sign Spertsyan then he's playing as an attacking midfielder. If that's the case then where is Fernandes playing? Instead of Downes? Because Downes is our only recognised holding midfielder so if Fernandes is playing in the middle it doesn't leave a lot of room. Similarly Rudoni if he's not competing with Spertsyan then is he Armstrong competition on the right? 

I think we have competition for places in that situation, but if Fernandes stays I'd be very surprised. If he does, then January may be his time to move, and I'd rather we planned ahead and bought extra now.

To answer your question though, I see it as 2 of Charles/Downes/Fernandes in the middle, Rudoni or AA off the right but Rudoni competing for a spot in the middle when Fernandes goes, Spertsy/Fernandes in behind. 

Alternatively, if we play 433, it's AA wide right up top, and 3 of the others in midfield. 

When Fernandes goes, the competition reduces. 

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Just now, Chez said:

There is no choice but to go for it. Its financial Armageddon after the first two parachute payments. 

Yep, agreed, and the owner strikes me as the kind of bloke who'd roll the dice. 

Posted
2 minutes ago, egg said:

I think we have competition for places in that situation, but if Fernandes stays I'd be very surprised. If he does, then January may be his time to move, and I'd rather we planned ahead and bought extra now.

To answer your question though, I see it as 2 of Charles/Downes/Fernandes in the middle, Rudoni or AA off the right but Rudoni competing for a spot in the middle when Fernandes goes, Spertsy/Fernandes in behind. 

Alternatively, if we play 433, it's AA wide right up top, and 3 of the others in midfield. 

When Fernandes goes, the competition reduces. 

Whoplays if Downes doesn't though? Because I'm not convinced that Charles or Fernandes can play a deeper defensive role. Imo we need a Ugochukwu replacement if Sesay isn't up to it. 

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10 minutes ago, Chez said:

We aren't signing another striker unless a couple (at least) depart and there hasn't been much noise. As we get closer to the end of the window I'm sure some teams will look to loan a few.

We look short of quality there.  Early days in the season though to be fair. 
Having said that, I wouldn’t be upset to see Armstrong and Diaz leave.

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We have got probably three of the best midfielders in the division in Shea, Mateus and Flynn. We have plenty decent to very good CB’s. I do think a Les replacement ( ie a big unit dm) is a good idea though. 


What we obviously lack is a better quality consistent full back.  Can Welington or Taylor or Suga make it? I guess they not got many games to prove it before end of window. Manning is looking better this season - at this level - but overall FB looks like an obvious position to get a EPL loanee from otherwise. 
 

The attack needs to get a grip. Powderpuff. Downs stop falling over, Archer take off your cloak of invisibility,BBD please just get a loan out somewhere and Adam - come on mate take responsibility open your mouth demand the effing ball. And Ross- pulling out in warm up is not for hard men strikers, toughen up! 

 

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