Diogo Jota

[Golac's Cunning Stunts]

5 minutes ago, East Kent Saint said:

Apparently he was advised not to fly after surgery so they were off to catch the ferry but as we know a dodgy pilot and plane ...

 

Fate. It never ceases to make me wonder. A niggling injury leads to a small op which leads to him driving to England rather than flying which leads to the car crash. 

you can only connect the dots looking back. 

[Whitey Grandad]

11 minutes ago, Golac's Cunning Stunts said:

Fate. It never ceases to make me wonder. A niggling injury leads to a small op which leads to him driving to England rather than flying which leads to the car crash. 

you can only connect the dots looking back. 

He was overtaking at the time apparently. 

[Crab Lungs]

8 hours ago, goodymatt said:

I had already posted my response to this tragic news in one of the other threads before you even made this thread, so don’t try and paint me as something I am not. The thread title was originally ‘Diego’, I thought it is only respectful to spell his name right, that is all.

Yes, right now is definitely time for pedantry and semantics over spelling or typo.

My word.

[Crab Lungs]

RIP Diogo and Andre. 
 

Horrible, awful news. That family will be in pieces.

[Gloucester Saint]

3 hours ago, Whitey Grandad said:

Not good enough. They only check pressures and not condition. 

Typically they come free with the ABS and compare the rotational speed of wheels on the same axis. Any significant difference is due to a different rolling radius.

Tyres, brakes and suspension.  Don't take risks with any of them. 

I only had all 4 changed a few months ago and done average mileage, recent service. The state of the roads is a real issue in rural areas some A roads, even the M5 has a stretch in South Worcestershire which is quite pitted and the M50 although that gets less volume.

The mobile tyre firm around here came out on the Sunday to fit my new one, checked the other three which are in very good shape, but said they’re incredibly busy because of people hitting potholes as hard as you try to avoid, you can’t all of the time. Also, a HGV had shed a tyre this week on the M5 which I managed to swerve but could have caused something like this tragic situation in N Spain. 

Ironically, minor surgery caused Jota to drive as they advised against flying so as not to set back healing time…he normally flies back for pre-season.

Edited July 3 by Gloucester Saint

[Golac's Cunning Stunts]

1 hour ago, Whitey Grandad said:

He was overtaking at the time apparently. 

It was a dual carriageway so doesn’t that just mean he was in the fast lane?

[whelk]

Lovely statement from Slot

[skintsaint]

17 minutes ago, Golac's Cunning Stunts said:

It was a dual carriageway so doesn’t that just mean he was in the fast lane?

Yep

[S-Clarke]

18 minutes ago, whelk said:

Lovely statement from Slot

Yep, I thought it was really well written.

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What to say? What can anyone say at a time like this when the shock and the pain is so incredibly raw? I wish I had the words but I know I do not.

All I have are feelings that I know so many people will share about a person and a player we loved dearly and a family we care so much about.

My first thoughts are not those of a football manager. They are of a father, a son, a brother and an uncle and they belong to the family of Diogo and Andre Silva who have experienced such an unimaginable loss.

My message to them is very clear – you will never walk alone. The players, the staff, the supporters of Liverpool Football Club are all with you and from what I have seen today, the same can be said of the wider family of football.

This is not solely a response to tragedy. It is also a reaction to the goodness of the people involved and the respect that so many have for the boys as individuals and for the family as a whole.

For us as a club, the sense of shock is absolute. Diogo was not just our player. He was a loved one to all of us. He was a teammate, a colleague, a workmate and in all of those roles he was very special.

I could say so much about what he brought to our team but the truth is everyone who watched Diogo play could see it. Hard work, desire, commitment, great quality, goals. The essence of what a Liverpool player should be.

There were also the parts that not everyone got to see. The person who never sought popularity but found it anyway. Not a friend to two people, a friend to everyone. Someone who made others feel good about themselves just by being with them. A person who cared deeply for his family.

The last time we spoke, I congratulated Diogo on winning the Nations League and wished him luck for his forthcoming wedding. In many ways, it was a dream summer for Diogo and his family, which makes it all the more heartbreaking that it should end like this.

When I first came to the club, one of the first songs I got to know was the one that our fans sing for Diogo. I had not worked with him previously but I knew straight away that if the Liverpool supporters, who have seen so many great players over the years, had such a unique chant for Diogo, he must have special qualities.

That we have lost those qualities in such terrible circumstances is something we have not yet come to terms with. For this reason, we need everyone at the club to stand together and to be there for one another. We owe this to Diogo, to Andre Silva, to their wider family and to ourselves.

My condolences go to Diogo’s wife, Rute, their three beautiful children and to the parents of Diogo and Andre Silva.

When the time is right, we will celebrate Diogo Jota, we will remember his goals and we will sing his song. For the time being, we will remember him as a unique human being and mourn his loss. He will never be forgotten.

His name is Diogo.

 

[Dark Munster]

On 03/07/2025 at 10:55, Crab Lungs said:

RIP Diogo and Andre. 

Horrible, awful news. That family will be in pieces.

Absolutely. For parents to lose a son is unbearable. To lose two is beyond heartbreaking. I can't imagine what they are going through.

RIP Diogo and Andre.

[Noodles34]

On 03/07/2025 at 09:37, AlexLaw76 said:

Very sad and was a very good player.

I am sure the scousers will milk this

You’re a fucking twat. 
 

[Turkish]

On 05/07/2025 at 00:10, Noodles34 said:

You’re a fucking twat. 
 

I don’t want to make this about Dell days comment but I have seen lots and lots of posts on social media from Liverpool fans saying how Liverpool honouring his contact is an act of absolute class and exactly what a club like them with such class would do etc.

it really isn’t, it’s what you’d expect any club to do and death in service benefit is pretty standard these days. 

they do seem to be thinking it some sort of wonderful gesture only Liverpool would even think of doing when in reality it’s the minimum you’d expect 

 

[hypochondriac]

1 hour ago, Turkish said:

I don’t want to make this about Dell days comment but I have seen lots and lots of posts on social media from Liverpool fans saying how Liverpool honouring his contact is an act of absolute class and exactly what a club like them with such class would do etc.

it really isn’t, it’s what you’d expect any club to do and death in service benefit is pretty standard these days. 

they do seem to be thinking it some sort of wonderful gesture only Liverpool would even think of doing when in reality it’s the minimum you’d expect 

 

Plus the club will definitely have life insurance which means most or all of that cost will be covered. 

[Saint86]

 

2 hours ago, Turkish said:

I don’t want to make this about Dell days comment but I have seen lots and lots of posts on social media from Liverpool fans saying how Liverpool honouring his contact is an act of absolute class and exactly what a club like them with such class would do etc.

it really isn’t, it’s what you’d expect any club to do and death in service benefit is pretty standard these days. 

they do seem to be thinking it some sort of wonderful gesture only Liverpool would even think of doing when in reality it’s the minimum you’d expect 

 

1 hour ago, hypochondriac said:

Plus the club will definitely have life insurance which means most or all of that cost will be covered. 

Liverpool fans in "lets spin tragedy into a positive for our club" shocker 🙄.

[Weston Super Saint]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cn4l1n45l1xo

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All the evidence so far suggests Portuguese footballer Diogo Jota was driving when his car crashed on a Spanish motorway, and he was likely speeding, say police.

The 28-year-old Liverpool player was killed with his brother André Silva, 25, when their Lamborghini car had a suspected tyre blowout in northwestern Zamora province early last Thursday.

 

[hypochondriac]

1 minute ago, Weston Super Saint said:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cn4l1n45l1xo

 

Whilst still tragic, it does rather change things a bit. 

[Sunglasses Ron]

13 minutes ago, hypochondriac said:

Whilst still tragic, it does rather change things a bit. 

Frankly, I'm stunned to hear that he was likely to be speeding in his £200k supercar that does 0-60 in 3 seconds. 

[hypochondriac]

Just now, Sunglasses Ron said:

Frankly, I'm stunned to hear that he was likely to be speeding in his £200k supercar that does 0-60 in 3 seconds. 

You're right it's not a shock but it does suggest he may have some level of culpability for his and his brother's death unfortunately. 

[Sunglasses Ron]

1 minute ago, hypochondriac said:

You're right it's not a shock but it does suggest he may have some level of culpability for his and his brother's death unfortunately. 

Yeah, this news will no doubt compound an already tragic situation for the family. Very, very, sad.

[skintsaint]

over 200 kmh allegedly. 

[Noodles34]

I’d imagine we have all sped and whilst it’s an accelerated  risk (excuse the pun) you can die at 30mph in a crash. I don’t think it makes it less of a tragedy at all. And  as for Liverpool fans milking it, I don’t think so. Whilst I don’t have much time for the club as whole, when I’m in Liverpool speaking with their real fans, I personally think they are sound. The social  media stuff can come from anywhere frankly, it doesn’t necessarily represent the common people. 

[hypochondriac]

5 minutes ago, Noodles34 said:

I’d imagine we have all sped and whilst it’s an accelerated  risk (excuse the pun) you can die at 30mph in a crash. I don’t think it makes it less of a tragedy at all. And  as for Liverpool fans milking it, I don’t think so. Whilst I don’t have much time for the club as whole, when I’m in Liverpool speaking with their real fans, I personally think they are sound. The social  media stuff can come from anywhere frankly, it doesn’t necessarily represent the common people. 

If what skintsaint posted is true then I can't say I've sped at 200kmh I'm afraid. 

[Weston Super Saint]

23 minutes ago, hypochondriac said:

If what skintsaint posted is true then I can't say I've sped at 200kmh I'm afraid. 

Not with a speed limit of 120kph.

[skintsaint]

Although a 100m skid mark suggests around the speed limit.

[whelk]

9 hours ago, Turkish said:

they do seem to be thinking it some sort of wonderful gesture only

As Noodles says it is lazy to always group them as the same. On here people label something as groupthink when just a couple of idiots eg not rating Tadic, wanting rid of Romeu etc.

i have met some really sensible scousers who aren’t in anyway mawkish about their  tragedies. I actually think it’s more a case of other supporters labelling them that perpetuate it and becoming a lazy trope

I can’t think of anything worse though than looking at what Liverpool fans say on social media mind. Well maybe being stabbed in the neck with a fork

[Weston Super Saint]

17 minutes ago, skintsaint said:

Although a 100m skid mark suggests around the speed limit.

119m stopping distance from 190kph for a Lamborghini Aventador :

https://fastestlaps.com/models/lamborghini-aventador-lp700-4

 

[Dark Munster]

9 hours ago, Turkish said:

I don’t want to make this about Dell days comment but I have seen lots and lots of posts on social media from Liverpool fans saying how Liverpool honouring his contact is an act of absolute class and exactly what a club like them with such class would do etc.

it really isn’t, it’s what you’d expect any club to do and death in service benefit is pretty standard these days. 

they do seem to be thinking it some sort of wonderful gesture only Liverpool would even think of doing when in reality it’s the minimum you’d expect 

 

Most clubs. But not Cardiff. 

[skintsaint]

6 minutes ago, Weston Super Saint said:

119m stopping distance from 190kph for a Lamborghini Aventador :

https://fastestlaps.com/models/lamborghini-aventador-lp700-4

 

Ah - i just read for the average car...which of course this wasnt!

[Weston Super Saint]

1 minute ago, skintsaint said:

Ah - i just read for the average car...which of course this wasnt!

Plus the 100m skid mark is before they left the road and crashed - presumably still going at a fair whack when the car hit whatever it did to cause it to catch fire!

[Patches O Houlihan]

Looks like it was a Huracan not an Aventador, and braking won't be quite according to specs with a blown out tyre. But either way it won't have come to a complete halt before reaching the impact site.

 It seems that while speed will have been a factor, the road was also in poor shape locally. An older lady had to be cut out of her car in the same spot recently. 

[benjii]

1 hour ago, skintsaint said:

over 200 kmh allegedly. 

What a prick.

[SaintStinger]

On 03/07/2025 at 19:52, Golac's Cunning Stunts said:

It was a dual carriageway so doesn’t that just mean he was in the fast lane?

No such thing. In Spain, as is the same here, the inside lane is where you should be unless performing an overtake. 

[Noodles34]

I’d imagine we have all sped and whilst it’s an accelerated  risk (excuse the pun) you can die at 30mph in a crash. I don’t think it makes it less of a tragedy at all. And  as for Liverpool fans milking it, I don’t think so. Whilst I don’t have much time for the club as whole, when I’m in Liverpool speaking with their real fans, I personally think they are sound. The social  media stuff can come from anywhere frankly, it doesn’t necessarily represent the common people. 

[Noodles34]

The point is that the tyre blew, at 70mph then that could have been fatal anyway. The speed doesn’t help but the tyre blew which caused the crash. Bad timing rather than speed. 

[Ex Lion Tamer]

1 minute ago, Noodles34 said:

The point is that the tyre blew, at 70mph then that could have been fatal anyway. The speed doesn’t help but the tyre blew which caused the crash. Bad timing rather than speed. 

You're trying to defend someone allegedly driving 125mph. Perhaps the tyre was more likely to puncture at that speed. It was certainly more likely to be fatal.

[egg]

8 minutes ago, Ex Lion Tamer said:

You're trying to defend someone allegedly driving 125mph. Perhaps the tyre was more likely to puncture at that speed. It was certainly more likely to be fatal.

Sure, it's fast, but It's not an outrageous speed for a supercar on a dual carriageway. If we're all being honest, if any of us at a young age had a lambo and dual carriageway, we'd all give it some welly. Let's see what the official outcome of any investigation is, but if a tyre blew it'll have been speed rated to well over the speed he was going so he's just been bloody unlucky. 

 

 

[Turkish]

5 hours ago, whelk said:

As Noodles says it is lazy to always group them as the same. On here people label something as groupthink when just a couple of idiots eg not rating Tadic, wanting rid of Romeu etc.

i have met some really sensible scousers who aren’t in anyway mawkish about their  tragedies. I actually think it’s more a case of other supporters labelling them that perpetuate it and becoming a lazy trope

I can’t think of anything worse though than looking at what Liverpool fans say on social media mind. Well maybe being stabbed in the neck with a fork

You don’t have to look very hard it’s all over Facebook and LinkedIn. A few people have made comments similar to mine and really upset them. It’s weird that they’re patting themselves on the back and labelling it class when it’s  something most people would expect  ant half decent organisation to do.
 

 

As with most big clubs the local supporters are generally sound salt of the earth types it’s “massive reds” that live in Newmarket, Cirencester and Truro that have a shirt and never miss a game on TV that are nauseating.
 

anyway it’s not about them, it’s about Jota, speeding or not incredibly sad. Two young men in their prime leaving behind wives, kids and parents 

[egg]

3 minutes ago, Turkish said:

You don’t have to look very hard it’s all over Facebook and LinkedIn. A few people have made comments similar to mine and really upset them. It’s weird that they’re patting themselves on the back and labelling it class when it’s  something most people would expect  ant half decent organisation to do.
 

 

As with most big clubs the local supporters are generally sound salt of the earth types it’s “massive reds” that live in Newmarket, Cirencester and Truro that have a shirt and never miss a game on TV that are nauseating.
 

anyway it’s not about them, it’s about Jota, speeding or not incredibly sad. Two young men in their prime leaving behind wives, kids and parents 

Yep. Nothing more than that to be said. 

[Whitey Grandad]

1 hour ago, Noodles34 said:

The point is that the tyre blew, at 70mph then that could have been fatal anyway. The speed doesn’t help but the tyre blew which caused the crash. Bad timing rather than speed. 

The speed may have caused the tyre to fail.

[egg]

7 minutes ago, Whitey Grandad said:

The speed may have caused the tyre to fail.

Very unlikely. A lambo tyre would be at least v rated (149 mph), w (168 mph), y (186 mph). If the tyre failed at 125 mph, it's a tyre defect. 

[Whitey Grandad]

8 hours ago, egg said:

Very unlikely. A lambo tyre would be at least v rated (149 mph), w (168 mph), y (186 mph). If the tyre failed at 125 mph, it's a tyre defect. 

Heat? Underinflation?

But in general, yes. It doesn't take much of a pothole to take a lump out of a tyre.

Either way, a car at 125 mph has over three times the kinetic energy of one doing 70 mph.