I'd rather have Martin than Still.

[Willo of Whiteley]

6 hours ago, benjii said:

Told you. Called it on August 23.

23 laughing emojis. 

Whose laughing now Saints dweebs? No one, that's who.

Respect benjii.

So are you classing everyone who disagrees with you as a “dweeb”?

The Championship is so unpredictable that we could be bottom at Christmas and yet still win the league.

You're the fan equivalent of that nutcase Marinakis at Nottingham Forest who expects success after four matches. No patience, and in need of one huge reality check.

[Sir Ralph]

On 19/10/2025 at 08:31, AlexLaw76 said:

Thoughts?

Im less confident than I was. Having said that I thought we did actually play well against Swansea but we can’t stick the ball in the net. The lack of a target man is haunting us which is mainly down to recruitment. It’s not the right thing to sack him now, in my opinion, so I think we need to carry on and see where we get to over the next couple of months. It’s not ideal but the alternative (sacking him) wouldn’t be the right call

[beatlesaint]

12 minutes ago, Sir Ralph said:

Im less confident than I was. Having said that I thought we did actually play well against Swansea but we can’t stick the ball in the net. The lack of a target man is haunting us which is mainly down to recruitment. It’s not the right thing to sack him now, in my opinion, so I think we need to carry on and see where we get to over the next couple of months. It’s not ideal but the alternative (sacking him) wouldn’t be the right call

If you sacked him now it wouldnt matter if you could bring Jurgen Klopp in, he wouldn't be able to stop them missing open goals from a yard out either !

[Miltonaggro]

1 hour ago, Sir Ralph said:

Im less confident than I was. Having said that I thought we did actually play well against Swansea but we can’t stick the ball in the net. The lack of a target man is haunting us which is mainly down to recruitment. It’s not the right thing to sack him now, in my opinion, so I think we need to carry on and see where we get to over the next couple of months. It’s not ideal but the alternative (sacking him) wouldn’t be the right call

In the summer I was dead against Still's appointment when it was first mooted, then having looked at his record at Lens, and watched some of the 'fly on the wall documentaries' managed to talk myself into it in terms of giving Spors the benefit of the doubt.  Still seemed a likeable bloke who players would want to play for.  I knew that we'd been in talks with Rohl throughout the second half of last season so assumed Still was second choice after Rohl had overestimated his options. 

I have watched all bar two of Still's games as our manager and the thing that worries me most is that there is lethargy throughout the side and no apparent desire / clue of how to craft chances or grind out results.  The blanket substitutions are also a red flag.  Martin's side in this league seemed to have another gear to use as a get out of jail free card against limited opposition, which would work four times out of five - we don't even have that now.  Saints are big fish in this league on the back of a £56m spend, I think we need to be more ambitious than 'let's see how it turns out and hope for the best'.  You'd assume Solak feels exactly the same regardless of what is said in public.  If it's not been done already Still should be given a finite number of games and if there isn't a dramatic upturn, replaced, hopefully with a known quantity for this league.    

[benjii]

1 hour ago, Miltonaggro said:

In the summer I was dead against Still's appointment when it was first mooted, then having looked at his record at Lens, and watched some of the 'fly on the wall documentaries' managed to talk myself into it in terms of giving Spors the benefit of the doubt.  Still seemed a likeable bloke who players would want to play for.  I knew that we'd been in talks with Rohl throughout the second half of last season so assumed Still was second choice after Rohl had overestimated his options. 

I have watched all bar two of Still's games as our manager and the thing that worries me most is that there is lethargy throughout the side and no apparent desire / clue of how to craft chances or grind out results.  The blanket substitutions are also a red flag.  Martin's side in this league seemed to have another gear to use as a get out of jail free card against limited opposition, which would work four times out of five - we don't even have that now.  Saints are big fish in this league on the back of a £56m spend, I think we need to be more ambitious than 'let's see how it turns out and hope for the best'.  You'd assume Solak feels exactly the same regardless of what is said in public.  If it's not been done already Still should be given a finite number of games and if there isn't a dramatic upturn, replaced, hopefully with a known quantity for this league.    

But not just Still - all the no mark coaches who were here before as well.

[Osvaldorama]

1 hour ago, Miltonaggro said:

In the summer I was dead against Still's appointment when it was first mooted, then having looked at his record at Lens, and watched some of the 'fly on the wall documentaries' managed to talk myself into it in terms of giving Spors the benefit of the doubt.  Still seemed a likeable bloke who players would want to play for.  I knew that we'd been in talks with Rohl throughout the second half of last season so assumed Still was second choice after Rohl had overestimated his options. 

I have watched all bar two of Still's games as our manager and the thing that worries me most is that there is lethargy throughout the side and no apparent desire / clue of how to craft chances or grind out results.  The blanket substitutions are also a red flag.  Martin's side in this league seemed to have another gear to use as a get out of jail free card against limited opposition, which would work four times out of five - we don't even have that now.  Saints are big fish in this league on the back of a £56m spend, I think we need to be more ambitious than 'let's see how it turns out and hope for the best'.  You'd assume Solak feels exactly the same regardless of what is said in public.  If it's not been done already Still should be given a finite number of games and if there isn't a dramatic upturn, replaced, hopefully with a known quantity for this league.    

I still think it’s a mad appointment. Nothing he’s done so far has changed my mind. 
 

We were a complete shower of shit, ingrained into playing terrible walking football. Players devoid of all confidence. 
 

We needed an old experienced head that knows the championship inside out to instil some drive and discipline. Not a hipster young manager. 
 

Still early days but it’s seriously worrying how bad we’ve been. 

[Willo of Whiteley]

I was hoping Leeds would sack Daniel Farke after the Championship promotion, he’s someone that would thrive for us if he was out of a job.

He’s another I would have over Russell Martin.