Colinjb Posted 3 February, 2009 Share Posted 3 February, 2009 Very blunt question, but he is getting nowhere near the first team so what is the explaination? You really shouldn't judge players before you've seen them play, so could nay attendees of the reserves game give their first impressions please? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 3 February, 2009 Share Posted 3 February, 2009 Does he even exist in this dimension ? Has anyone seen him ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintrich Posted 3 February, 2009 Share Posted 3 February, 2009 I'll guess at both. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRichmond Posted 3 February, 2009 Share Posted 3 February, 2009 Very blunt question, but he is getting nowhere near the first team so what is the explaination? You really shouldn't judge players before you've seen them play, so could nay attendees of the reserves game give their first impressions please? Very blunt answer A) He's unfit B) He's crap Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krissyboy31 Posted 3 February, 2009 Share Posted 3 February, 2009 Very blunt answer A) He's unfit B) He's crap The perfect signing then! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintwarwick Posted 3 February, 2009 Share Posted 3 February, 2009 Very blunt answer A) He's unfit B) He's crap I take it you have seen him play for us then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRichmond Posted 3 February, 2009 Share Posted 3 February, 2009 The perfect signing then! Sanctioned by whom ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
once_bitterne Posted 3 February, 2009 Share Posted 3 February, 2009 Does he even exist in this dimension ? Has anyone seen him ? Fair point but I often think the same of you! I cannot really believe that a person with the extreme manic depressive tendencies you exhibit here each and every day is in fact a human being with a wife and kids and not under constant medical care. I prefer to believe your posts are auto generated by a computer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
up and away Posted 3 February, 2009 Share Posted 3 February, 2009 Very blunt question, but he is getting nowhere near the first team so what is the explaination? You really shouldn't judge players before you've seen them play, so could nay attendees of the reserves game give their first impressions please? Just answer this question. Knowing the fee for Davies and his high salary. Knowing Davies has been unfit to play for more than minutes this season. Knowing Pulis will not get into the first team. Would you still do the deal with Stoke? I cannot believe how lucky we were to get rid of Davies. By all rights we should having him on our treatment table at his elevated salary for at least most of this season, if not all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted 3 February, 2009 Share Posted 3 February, 2009 Anthony Pulis was out warming-up with the players before the Swansea game. At first, I just assumed he'd made the bench but clearly not. Wotte called him over whilst the players were warming-up, gave him some instructions and then he went down the tunnel. He didn't appear again after that though. Was all a bit odd really. Did anyone else see this too? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenridge Posted 3 February, 2009 Share Posted 3 February, 2009 Just posted this on the Andrew Davies thread as that was the way the thread was migrating but more relevant here.. Quote: Originally Posted by nickh That attitude gives the lad no chance when he pulls on his shirt for us.I bet you havent seen him play and come up with that nonsense.Nothing like being fair is it. In all fairness there aren't many who have! Makes you wonder on what basis they mae the decision to buy him...18 appearances in 6+ years 2003–2004 Portsmouth Apps 0 2004–2008 Stoke City Apps 3 2004–2005 → Torquay United (loan) Apps 5 2006 → Plymouth Argyle (loan) Apps 9 2006–2007 → Grimsby Town (loan) Apps 1 2007–2008 → Bristol Rovers (loan) Apps 0 2008– Southampton Apps 0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 3 February, 2009 Share Posted 3 February, 2009 Very blunt answer A) He's unfit B) He's crapthis is from someone who was xalling people thick earlier.It is so funny. Tell us how many times you have seen him play? I myself have never seen him play and so i will hold my judgement until doing so. After i have i may agree with your assessment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(not THE) Kevin Moore Posted 3 February, 2009 Share Posted 3 February, 2009 Fair point but I often think the same of you! I cannot really believe that a person with the extreme manic depressive tendencies you exhibit here each and every day is in fact a human being with a wife and kids and not under constant medical care. I prefer to believe your posts are auto generated by a computer. Maybe this is the reason he lives in Austria, don't they have legalised euthanasia over there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 3 February, 2009 Share Posted 3 February, 2009 Just posted this on the Andrew Davies thread as that was the way the thread was migrating but more relevant here.. In all fairness there aren't many who have! Makes you wonder on what basis they mae the decision to buy him...18 appearances in 6+ years 2003–2004 Portsmouth Apps 0 2004–2008 Stoke City Apps 3 2004–2005 → Torquay United (loan) Apps 5 2006 → Plymouth Argyle (loan) Apps 9 2006–2007 → Grimsby Town (loan) Apps 1 2007–2008 → Bristol Rovers (loan) Apps 0 2008– Southampton Apps 0So without seeing the man play you have already categorised him! Some people fit in certain clubs dont.i agree the ststs you put up do question his ability but why prejudge? have we not learned from doing so with many players overe the years.I believe he was only signed as a makeweight in the Davies deal and it was some way of avoiding sell on fees or the like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scummer Posted 3 February, 2009 Share Posted 3 February, 2009 Just answer this question. Knowing the fee for Davies and his high salary. Knowing Davies has been unfit to play for more than minutes this season. Knowing Pulis will not get into the first team. Would you still do the deal with Stoke? I cannot believe how lucky we were to get rid of Davies. By all rights we should having him on our treatment table at his elevated salary for at least most of this season, if not all. That all makes perfect sense, until you realise that the two transfers were totally unrelated. We sold Davies 10 days before we signed Pulis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 3 February, 2009 Share Posted 3 February, 2009 Anthony Pulis was out warming-up with the players before the Swansea game. At first, I just assumed he'd made the bench but clearly not. Wotte called him over whilst the players were warming-up, gave him some instructions and then he went down the tunnel. He didn't appear again after that though. Was all a bit odd really. Did anyone else see this too? Explains everything, he's the teaboy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 3 February, 2009 Share Posted 3 February, 2009 That all makes perfect sense, until you realise that the two transfers were totally unrelated. We sold Davies 10 days before we signed Pulis.I think the delay was down to medicals,he i believe was part of the deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corky morris Posted 3 February, 2009 Share Posted 3 February, 2009 My middle nipper has been training up at Stoke & I get to find out a fair bit of info about them even if I did take the **** out of Delap & the fact that someone is Southampton managed to sell Higgy a Lincoln Navigator! The coaches there reckon that Pulis can actually play. The problem has been he seems to be constantly injured. He had a hard time because he was the managers son, but they reckon he could do a job in the Championship. I suppose we should wait & see, but it does appear a very odd signing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 3 February, 2009 Author Share Posted 3 February, 2009 That all makes perfect sense, until you realise that the two transfers were totally unrelated. We sold Davies 10 days before we signed Pulis. Even given the time delay, I sincerely doubt that the two transfers are unconnected, even if only incidentally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 3 February, 2009 Share Posted 3 February, 2009 So without seeing the man play you have already categorised him! Some people fit in certain clubs dont.i agree the ststs you put up do question his ability but why prejudge? have we not learned from doing so with many players overe the years.I believe he was only signed as a makeweight in the Davies deal and it was some way of avoiding sell on fees or the like. So what "certain clubs" has Pulis "fitted into" so far - how many more does he have to get through to get a regular game? I've never seen him play and I doubt I ever will. But my pre judgement is that he is cr ap. I look forward to him proving me wrong. And who was that poster a while back who was betting against all comers that Pulis would play 20 games for us this season?? Anyone remember? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 3 February, 2009 Share Posted 3 February, 2009 So what "certain clubs" has Pulis "fitted into" so far - how many more does he have to get through to get a regular game? I've never seen him play and I doubt I ever will. But my pre judgement is that he is cr ap. I look forward to him proving me wrong. And who was that poster a while back who was betting against all comers that Pulis would play 20 games for us this season?? Anyone remember?It wasnt me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Give it to Ron Posted 3 February, 2009 Share Posted 3 February, 2009 I have seen him play twice - very average, he was a bit off the pace unsurprisingly given the fact he had not played in a while. He gave his man far too much room , very late in the tackle several times and his distribution was poor. He did make himself available for a pass and kept calling and motivating but he was miles behind Gillet in those games in terms of ability. To be honest there are times I wonder how many times we actually watch a player - Ryan Smith for example may have been great in one game but I have seen him 5 times now and he has been poor in nearly all. In one reserve game he went missing once the defender clumped him twice. Gasmi is great on the ball, can't tackle for toffee, if its not at his feet he wont chase it down and very lightweight. Here are 3 examples of poor signings that to me are obviously way off CC standard yet we sign them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenridge Posted 3 February, 2009 Share Posted 3 February, 2009 So without seeing the man play you have already categorised him! Some people fit in certain clubs dont.i agree the ststs you put up do question his ability but why prejudge? have we not learned from doing so with many players overe the years.I believe he was only signed as a makeweight in the Davies deal and it was some way of avoiding sell on fees or the like. So where have I categorised him?! Blimey Nick you don't half set yourself up for a fall by making stuff up. I was merely pointing out in support of another poster you queried that it seems a strange decision all round to purchase him as no one could have seen him play to base the acquisition decision upon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 3 February, 2009 Share Posted 3 February, 2009 I have seen him play twice - very average, he was a bit off the pace unsurprisingly given the fact he had not played in a while. He gave his man far too much room , very late in the tackle several times and his distribution was poor. He did make himself available for a pass and kept calling and motivating but he was miles behind Gillet in those games in terms of ability. To be honest there are times I wonder how many times we actually watch a player - Ryan Smith for example may have been great in one game but I have seen him 5 times now and he has been poor in nearly all. In one reserve game he went missing once the defender clumped him twice. Gasmi is great on the ball, can't tackle for toffee, if its not at his feet he wont chase it down and very lightweight. Here are 3 examples of poor signings that to me are obviously way off CC standard yet we sign them.I respect that and at least you have watched him before making a judgement.Disappointing summary though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 3 February, 2009 Share Posted 3 February, 2009 So where have I categorised him?! Blimey Nick you don't half set yourself up for a fall by making stuff up. I was merely pointing out in support of another poster you queried that it seems a strange decision all round to purchase him as no one could have seen him play to base the acquisition decision upon.He was seen play as far as im aware.I think a few would have seen hm in the rpre season friendly when we played Stoke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctoroncall Posted 3 February, 2009 Share Posted 3 February, 2009 So without seeing the man play you have already categorised him! Some people fit in certain clubs dont.i agree the ststs you put up do question his ability but why prejudge? have we not learned from doing so with many players overe the years.I believe he was only signed as a makeweight in the Davies deal and it was some way of avoiding sell on fees or the like. I don't get, Greenridge posted some information - didn't pass judgement but you have a go at him about his post. Also, how do the stats question his footballing ability? He might be a reasonable player, just unable to show it due to his fitness, which is a prerequisite to be a footballer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noodles34 Posted 3 February, 2009 Share Posted 3 February, 2009 Pullis was the 17th man on Saturday, I know this because i was on a stadium tour at half twelve and his shirt was in the dressing room hung up. The 16th man is the standby in case anyone from the squad of 16 drops out unexpectedly, thats why he was warming up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fowllyd Posted 3 February, 2009 Share Posted 3 February, 2009 It seems I'm another of the lucky few who've actually seen him play. Just once, in a reserve match against Swansea. I'd echo the comments made by Give it to Ron above; he certainly didn't stand out in that match, Wotton alongside him looking a far better player. He was taken off midway through the second half; Lloyd James moved into central midfield and looked way superior there. On the subject of people at the club having watched him, if the only time that happened was in the pre-season friendly (and Poortvliet's comments at the time suggested just that) then I'd have to say it's precious little on which to base the awarding of a two-year (or was it three?) contract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oxfordshire_saint Posted 3 February, 2009 Share Posted 3 February, 2009 Maybe he was signed on a season long matchday mascot deal? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 3 February, 2009 Author Share Posted 3 February, 2009 Pullis was the 17th man on Saturday, I know this because i was on a stadium tour at half twelve and his shirt was in the dressing room hung up. The 16th man is the standby in case anyone from the squad of 16 drops out unexpectedly, thats why he was warming up. So we are working on a line of ascention basis now then? Wonder who is in at number 24. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trumush Posted 3 February, 2009 Share Posted 3 February, 2009 I've seen him twice playing for the reserves and although he did little wrong he did'nt do much to get excited about. A few get and gives ( sideways!!!),plenty of encouragement to the boysh around him( which was good ),but very unremarkable.I don't think we will know until he get's a first team game - if he ever get's one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victor Posted 3 February, 2009 Share Posted 3 February, 2009 Maybe this is the reason he lives in Austria, don't they have legalised euthanasia over there? Surely, if they do, he wouldn't be 'living' there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRichmond Posted 3 February, 2009 Share Posted 3 February, 2009 I take it you have seen him play for us then. I have seen him on a Football pitch ......... which does not of course mean I have seen him "playing" as such I think it fair to say that he is not the answer to Englands shortage of players Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 3 February, 2009 Share Posted 3 February, 2009 Maybe this is the reason he lives in Austria, don't they have legalised euthanasia over there? Last time I looked, this was a fairly orthodox Roman Catholic country, so I'd consider that highly unlikely... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oz Posted 3 February, 2009 Share Posted 3 February, 2009 both! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozzmeister Posted 3 February, 2009 Share Posted 3 February, 2009 So what position does he actually play. I have a feeling FM puts him down as a Centre/Right midfielder. I have not seen him play so cant judge. However I think fittness and maybe confidence has been a problem. Maybe a few more reserve games and make a sub appearance and we could have more of an idea. Could it be that he is constantly played centre when he is a better right sided player (i.e.better at running and crossing, but maybe not at tackling and breaking up play? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wes Tender Posted 3 February, 2009 Share Posted 3 February, 2009 There was a spate of signing in crap players or loans this season, of which the boy Pulis appears to be one of the most worthless. Apart from a few runouts in the reserves, he might as well not be here at all for all the benefit that he has brought. The same could be said of others such as Peckart, Robinson, Gasmi and Smith. Apart from the new lad at CB, the rest seem to have been a total waste. There is very little to suggest that the latest signing will set the World on fire either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arizona Posted 3 February, 2009 Share Posted 3 February, 2009 I saw him in the reserves once and he was really quite phenomenally average. Just to give you a bit of an idea, this was in a game where James looked imense at RB, Kyle Davies solid at CB, Gasmi looked a bit useful on the left and Robertson scored a brace. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saints_is_the_south Posted 3 February, 2009 Share Posted 3 February, 2009 There was a spate of signing in crap players or loans this season, of which the boy Pulis appears to be one of the most worthless. Apart from a few runouts in the reserves, he might as well not be here at all for all the benefit that he has brought. The same could be said of others such as Peckart, Robinson, Gasmi and Smith. Apart from the new lad at CB, the rest seem to have been a total waste. There is very little to suggest that the latest signing will set the World on fire either. Correct. I really cannot believe that 5 players have cost less altogether in wages than either 1 of Rasiak or John. Doesn't take a rocket scientist to work out that keeping one of those 2 & not signing the other 5 would have made more sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cellone Posted 3 February, 2009 Share Posted 3 February, 2009 Went out with a mate from stoke on friday night and whilst disscussing the amount of ex-saints doing well up there he said "How's that useless ***t Pulis doing?". He was also dissapionted to see Prcard return. I will state that his views are often less than balanced and he has no time for Pulis snr and has wanted him gone for a while, meaning years not months. If you tell him he's ungrateful he launches into a 15 min oration about how evil the man is. I have found this is a popular rant topic with Stoke fan's akin to our Lowe issue and just as divicive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corsacar saint Posted 3 February, 2009 Share Posted 3 February, 2009 What do you expect with Lowe as D.O.F. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwertySFC Posted 3 February, 2009 Share Posted 3 February, 2009 Has anyone seen him ? maybe not .. but here are his boots Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 3 February, 2009 Share Posted 3 February, 2009 There was a spate of signing in crap players or loans this season, of which the boy Pulis appears to be one of the most worthless. Apart from a few runouts in the reserves, he might as well not be here at all for all the benefit that he has brought. The same could be said of others such as Peckart, Robinson, Gasmi and Smith. Apart from the new lad at CB, the rest seem to have been a total waste. There is very little to suggest that the latest signing will set the World on fire either. Correct. I really cannot believe that 5 players have cost less altogether in wages than either 1 of Rasiak or John. Doesn't take a rocket scientist to work out that keeping one of those 2 & not signing the other 5 would have made more sense. Amen to all this. It's a tragedy we have had to let the likes of John and Rasiak slope off on loan, and let the likes of Skacel rot in the name of cost cutting when you see the pheonomenal amount of waste on the below average drivel we are shipping in. Players on players on players that are scraping ten games all season between them. Being that the whole point of the revolutionary structure was to bring the senior and academy teams together, I don't understand the need for these reserve teamers swamping in the middle. A solid 16 senior players with all cover provided by the kids. That wouldn't have been that revolutionary, but it might have bloody worked. An absolute disgrace. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorgiesaint Posted 3 February, 2009 Share Posted 3 February, 2009 That all makes perfect sense, until you realise that the two transfers were totally unrelated. We sold Davies 10 days before we signed Pulis. If it took the bloke 10 days to pass a medical, then there is no way he should have been signed!!! and didn't he have a broken bone in his foot/ankle anyway? In which case, what sort of cr*p medical did he pass? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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