Legod Third Coming Posted 7 February, 2009 Share Posted 7 February, 2009 genuinely think we can stay up? Looking at today's table and our goal difference, for the first time in my supporting life I have no hope that we can survive this season. I'm not even that upset by it, I don't think. In years gone I would have hoped until the last kick of the last game, like last season. But now, I just don't see where a win is coming from. In fact, I wouldn't be suprised if we didn't win another game this season - really I wouldn't. Someone please tell me I'm wrong? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huffton Posted 7 February, 2009 Share Posted 7 February, 2009 Unfortunately no. I just can't see where the points will come from. THe year we dropped out of the prem I really thought we could do it right up until the last minute or so, but this year I think we are down already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InvictaSaint Posted 7 February, 2009 Share Posted 7 February, 2009 Am with Huffton on this; cannot see where the next win is going to come from. have resigned myself to the inevitable, sadly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aintforever Posted 7 February, 2009 Share Posted 7 February, 2009 I don't think we have a chance. If we had a proper manager we would have an outside chance, having a manager with zero championship experience gives us a severe handicap in this situation. The main reason we are screwed though is because the kids can't handle the pressure. They couldn't handle it when there was no pressure, each game from now on gets more and more serious - experience is vital - we have little in the team and none in the manager. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintjay77 Posted 7 February, 2009 Share Posted 7 February, 2009 Technically I think we have more than enough about us to stay up and looking at how many teams are still well within reach of the drop zone I dont see why we shouldnt be able get out of this hole. To do it though we will definitley have to do allot more than we have done the rest of the season. So yes I think we "Could" get out of it but will need a complete change of fortune and a lot of luck to just move in the right direction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
70's Mike Posted 7 February, 2009 Share Posted 7 February, 2009 I know they only drew to day, but you look at the mix of experience with youth at Leicester and realise what a MISTAKE rupert made. I still believe we can get out of it but NOT with the current way of thinking at SMS we need a big old fashioned centre forward who can finish , not a team of circus jugglers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legod Third Coming Posted 7 February, 2009 Author Share Posted 7 February, 2009 Technically I think we have more than enough about us to stay up and looking at how many teams are still well within reach of the drop zone I dont see why we shouldnt be able get out of this hole. To do it though we will definitley have to do allot more than we have done the rest of the season. So yes I think we "Could" get out of it but will need a complete change of fortune and a lot of luck to just move in the right direction. Even if we win the next two games, I think we're unlikely to be out of the drop zone and that is a massive blow pyschologically, that's my main worry. We haven't won back-to-back games all season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pedro Posted 7 February, 2009 Share Posted 7 February, 2009 I am not a diehard but have been a season ticket holder for a few years but didn't go Tuesday night, too much of an effort, too cold and would get home too late, in the past I wouldn't have thought twice about going but now I'm fed up with coming home in a crap mood because of our performance. I've been going on and off since our old 3rd division days and it is simply a disaster that we are going to go back there and possibly worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjii Posted 7 February, 2009 Share Posted 7 February, 2009 No. For the first time ever I think we will be relegated. I have thought this since the Forest match. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stepgar Posted 7 February, 2009 Share Posted 7 February, 2009 changes were made far too late Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintjay77 Posted 7 February, 2009 Share Posted 7 February, 2009 Even if we win the next two games, I think we're unlikely to be out of the drop zone and that is a massive blow pyschologically, that's my main worry. We haven't won back-to-back games all season. Maybe I always try to think positivly, same as I think Saints will be the biggest club in the world....... 1 day But looking at our team/squad, on paper does it really look like we should be battling the drop? A poor run, poor decissions, injurys, changes, board room and many other reasons put together turn us into an underperforming team somehow. But I just think if we can get 1 or 2 things right we can build on that and move forward. Before the Shefield game we were 2 wins away from 14th place I think. Its only been 1 game since then and now we have a game in hand so it is all firmly still in our hands. I wont give up yet and I hope the team doesnt either. long way to go and all that but the club need to realise fingers need to be pulled out of arses if we are to stand a chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rocknrollman no2 Posted 7 February, 2009 Share Posted 7 February, 2009 No way will we stay up. It would take a momentous effort from the team and i just dont think they are up to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted 7 February, 2009 Share Posted 7 February, 2009 I too, feel resigned to relegation. The table makes for very unpleasant reading and I can't see where our next win is going to come from. I'd like to think I've come to terms with League 1 football next year, but no doubt it will hurt like hell the day it's confirmed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Topcat Posted 7 February, 2009 Share Posted 7 February, 2009 I had similar thoughts as Legod when I looked at Sky this evening, we are behind and some teams even have a game in hand. The only way I can see it turning is if the home supporters came back and pulled the team through. That would require crowds of more than 20k and ideally 25k. But as long as Lowe remains at the Club, many supporters just cannot go back and give their support. Lowe's backers and Barclays seem oblivious to these facts, which shows that there are some incredibly stupid people in Business. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gingeletiss Posted 7 February, 2009 Share Posted 7 February, 2009 No............I think we are doomed.....doomed I say. Unless, and this is a big hope, there are three worse teams than us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintjay77 Posted 7 February, 2009 Share Posted 7 February, 2009 I had similar thoughts as Legod when I looked at Sky this evening, we are behind and some teams even have a game in hand. The only way I can see it turning is if the home supporters came back and pulled the team through. That would require crowds of more than 20k and ideally 25k. But as long as Lowe remains at the Club, many supporters just cannot go back and give their support. Lowe's backers and Barclays seem oblivious to these facts, which shows that there are some incredibly stupid people in Business. Dont want to turn this into yet another debate about those in charge but if knob head is doing what he said with regards to barcleys they wont give a flying fluck about us not wanting league 1 football. When he came back our overdraft was around 6mil and now its around 4.5mil if what has been reported on here is to be believed. So in there eyes we are making progress. If we were winning matches then the fans would return, maybe not all of them but a good enough number to make the banks even happier. I dont want the team to make us safe for the board to keep there jobs cause IMO there all toss pots. I want them to get the points for us because collectivly the fans have put more into football than any of the gifted few will ever dream about and its about time they pulled there frigging socks up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintjay77 Posted 7 February, 2009 Share Posted 7 February, 2009 No............I think we are doomed.....doomed I say. Unless, and this is a big hope, there are three worse teams than us. I think thats what I was getting at before. there are a fair few teams that will be looking at the bottom 3 and we are due a few good results so I just think that we can do enough to get ahead of at least 3 worse teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papa Shango Posted 7 February, 2009 Share Posted 7 February, 2009 The only chance we have is if he appoint a proper manager, even then we'd still be up against it. I predict we'll be down well before the last game at Forest. We're already 4 points behind the 4th bottom team, Barnsley (Who have a better GD and have a game in hand). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgerx16 Posted 7 February, 2009 Share Posted 7 February, 2009 The only way I can see it turning is if the home supporters came back and pulled the team through. That would require crowds of more than 20k and ideally 25k. But as long as Lowe remains at the Club, many supporters just cannot go back and give their support. Lowe's backers and Barclays seem oblivious to these facts, which shows that there are some incredibly stupid people in Business. Whilst I understand the sentiment concerning the "12th man effect" of a partisan crowd, the reality is that this squad with this manager ( merely a continuation of the last one ), lack the strength, both mental and physical, experience, and nous to dig us out of the mess they have put us in. Every bl00dy week, one or other of them comes on the OS and bleats out the latest version of the rallying call, and every match it shows itself up to be yet another damp squib. This failed experiment couldn't change track even if there were 32000 shouting themselves hoarse at every home game, the squad is wrong, the team selection is wrong, the tactics are wrong, and any form of "leadership" is completely absent. The loanees couldn't care less as they simply go back to their clubs, those players soon to be out of contract will just plan to leave at the end of the season, and those that think they are too good to go down will slap in transfer requests. It's only the fans that will have to endure League 1. All the same, every kick-off will fuel the expectation, and 90 minutes later we can only hope that something, for once, will have gone our way. Still enough points, have the players got the balls ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scottydog67 Posted 7 February, 2009 Share Posted 7 February, 2009 Come on don't be so defeatest!!..........Still 45 points to be won!! COYR!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leicestersaint Posted 7 February, 2009 Share Posted 7 February, 2009 Maybe we will start scoring some goals more frequently. Maybe we will start defending more effectively and stop conceding so many. But as things stand it looks very bleak indeed - relegation to the third division for the first time in 50 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scottydog67 Posted 7 February, 2009 Share Posted 7 February, 2009 I still feel that it's not too late, as they say it's not over till the fat lady sings, and she is not even clearing her throat!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exit2 Posted 7 February, 2009 Share Posted 7 February, 2009 Going on averages......... we have got just over 1 point per game, so on that form we should get 17 points over the rest of the season. That will give us 45 points.........on past years 2007 - 2008 Leicester City went down on 52 points 2006 - 2007 45 Would be down as Hull finished 21st with 49 2005 - 2006 45 Would be down as QPR fininshed 21st with 50 2004 -2005 Would be down Gillingham went down with 50 2003 -2004 Walsall went down with 51 I think we need 25 points for survival and that we aint gonna get! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 7 February, 2009 Share Posted 7 February, 2009 no chance this year should have got billy davies when burley left..or at the lastest in the summer when pearson was not retained..ffs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chi saint Posted 7 February, 2009 Share Posted 7 February, 2009 I think we might just scrape it, currently we still have a part to play in our fate but give it 2 perhaps 3 games and then we will be firmly in the hands and results of others. However it can be done! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tulip Posted 7 February, 2009 Share Posted 7 February, 2009 as long as we stick with mcbaldrick upfront we are doomed.he doesn't win nothing in the air and he can't hold the ball up.i still can't believe he gets a game each week,he's totally out of his depth.how we haven't got a big centre forward in is beyond me.surely anyone with an ounce of football knowledge can that.wotte an idiot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
La BoIS Saint Posted 7 February, 2009 Share Posted 7 February, 2009 I wouldn't bet my life on staying up. I look back to the Reading away game for inspiration but I can't see it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paris Posted 7 February, 2009 Share Posted 7 February, 2009 It's not over to the fat lady sings ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brmbrm Posted 7 February, 2009 Share Posted 7 February, 2009 No chance. We need better than 1.5 points per game on average. that means draws are not good enough. At the moment we can scrape out the occasional draw. Totally fooked. lowe and wotte just have to go. Portvliet was just the first of the incarnate 3. two to go. It just beats me how anyone with shares on the PLC is not totally fuming about the mismanagement - at least get rod of Lowe, add 6,000 to the gate and go down with money in the pocket. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harvey Posted 7 February, 2009 Share Posted 7 February, 2009 I don't think for one minute that we'll stay up, and I can't really say that I'm that bothered. This club has shot itself in the foot too many times over the last 5 years, it's probably no more than it deserves...............total mismanagement on a level that I really don't understand!. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintSparky Posted 7 February, 2009 Share Posted 7 February, 2009 Two very different questions asked here. For the Poll - "Do you think we will stay up this year or be relegated to League 1"? I'm sad to say that I think we will probably go down. From the original text - "genuinely think we can stay up?" Of course we can, plenty of twists and turns to happen yet, we are not down at the moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Under Weststand Posted 7 February, 2009 Share Posted 7 February, 2009 December & January was the month's we had to start making our move if saftey was to be archived. We had a number of winnable games against relegation opposition & was the time to turn things around if we were ever going to, for me we've blown our best chances. I really hope I'm proved wrong but I just cant see looking at our run in from now where we can pick up enough points to stay up, and that is just so hard to take that HOPE is all we've got now there is know real belief in this squad & management. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ottery st mary Posted 7 February, 2009 Share Posted 7 February, 2009 Too late now. Lowe and Wotte should have gone with JP..Reasonable Manager and we would have had a go at survival..Should have all gone at xmas really. Never should be at the club. Lowe, Askham, Wilde and the Dutch crew, The Lavender Hill Mob and all the Luvvies and Ruperts Ra Ra Cheerleaders..What a joke. Div 2 here we come. Unless this lot leave soon..Curtains. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SFC Forever Posted 7 February, 2009 Share Posted 7 February, 2009 Maybe I always try to think positivly, same as I think Saints will be the biggest club in the world....... 1 day But looking at our team/squad, on paper does it really look like we should be battling the drop? A poor run, poor decissions, injurys, changes, board room and many other reasons put together turn us into an underperforming team somehow. But I just think if we can get 1 or 2 things right we can build on that and move forward. Before the Shefield game we were 2 wins away from 14th place I think. Its only been 1 game since then and now we have a game in hand so it is all firmly still in our hands. I wont give up yet and I hope the team doesnt either. long way to go and all that but the club need to realise fingers need to be pulled out of arses if we are to stand a chance. If we get all the fingers pulled out as you suggest then we will really be up to our necks :smt036 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vectraman Posted 7 February, 2009 Share Posted 7 February, 2009 I think we will go down unfortunately. If we got Rasiak back from loan at Watford and played him and Saga upfront instead of the ineffective Mcgoldrick then maybe, just maybe we could score some goals and have hope. But, if we persevere with what we have then it's goodbye Championship, hello Divi 1...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 7 February, 2009 Share Posted 7 February, 2009 We just barely have the squad to survive. But we don't have the right manager, right board and and as a result right mentality in the fanbase to make it happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thorpie the sinner Posted 7 February, 2009 Share Posted 7 February, 2009 Just can't see it!!! The teams around us are beginning to put results together and if we lose too many more games we will be marooned!! A new strong manager in now and we have half a chance, it ain't Wotte!!!! Sorry!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aintforever Posted 7 February, 2009 Share Posted 7 February, 2009 We all knew this season would be hard but the frustrating thing is that we could be comfortably mid-table with the right management. Some of the youngsters have proved to be OK, we've had the resources to bring in 15 players. Even an average manager could have kept us up with well organised, motivated small squad of players, instead we've had the usual Lowe inspired manager merry-go-round and his usual interferance on player signings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rallyboy Posted 7 February, 2009 Share Posted 7 February, 2009 for a moment I thought Rupert was going to pull a tactical masterstroke and pull Rasiak back from Watford on the last day of the transfer window and drop them right in it, rebuilding our forward line at the same time. But alas no, we could yet see one of our own players scoring the goals for our relegation rivals that will cost us further millions. Without goalscorers I am afraid it is curtains, and it is also astonishingly predictable to all of us and that makes it bonkers in every way. Should we go down there will be shock in the boardroom, though we have all seen it coming since about October. Very odd, have they not grasped how the table/relegation system operates yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Cool Posted 7 February, 2009 Share Posted 7 February, 2009 I think we should draw strength from Roger's Profanisaurus.. "Do a Southampton - to score and stay up when you really haven't got it in you" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N/West Saint Posted 7 February, 2009 Share Posted 7 February, 2009 changes were made far too late Woote changes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 7 February, 2009 Share Posted 7 February, 2009 I was standing in my kitchen this afternoon watching Sky Sports News as the other CCC results started to come in and got that chilling feeling you sometimes get when you have a premonition that something monumental has happened. And then I felt a strange kind of calm.... I truely feel today was the day that life as a top flight club (or knocking on the door thereof) ended and that we are now faced with several years in the wilderness of the bottom leagues. More heart than head I know....and there is nothing tangible that happened today to cement this view....but I just got this feeling wash over me that we are witnessing the end of an era.... Back to the comfort of my bottle of McGuigan Shiraz.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captainchris Posted 7 February, 2009 Share Posted 7 February, 2009 as long as we stick with mcbaldrick upfront we are doomed.he doesn't win nothing in the air and he can't hold the ball up.i still can't believe he gets a game each week,he's totally out of his depth.how we haven't got a big centre forward in is beyond me.surely anyone with an ounce of football knowledge can that.wotte an idiot Stop knocking MCgoldrick it's not his fault. He has good control and is strong on the ball. Ok not a world beater but quite a decent player. If you want to talk about very very poor players then lets talk Wotten for Christ's sake - now there is a very poor player indeed!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
offix Posted 7 February, 2009 Share Posted 7 February, 2009 Two relegations in a row is even possible. If we survive, and are forced to stay with the same setup it'll be league 2 real soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L1Minus10 Posted 7 February, 2009 Share Posted 7 February, 2009 We need to win at least 5 games to have a chance. maybe 5 wins and 7 draws (and only 3 defeats) from the last 15 games. IMO we had to win one of the two home games last week and we didn't so I think it's goodbye... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Fan CaM Posted 8 February, 2009 Share Posted 8 February, 2009 Even if we win the next two games, I think we're unlikely to be out of the drop zone and that is a massive blow pyschologically, that's my main worry. We haven't won back-to-back games all season. And here you have hit the nail on the head. We need a very big turn around to take enough points and its not there in the coaching/managerial side of things to make the change. I think if Pearson had been left to get on with the job, we might have stood a chance this season, but to change the manager once again was a MASSIVE mistake by Lowe - to do it twice was tantamount to killing the club. We're down and possibly out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greedyfly Posted 8 February, 2009 Share Posted 8 February, 2009 We can get out of it...So have gone for yes. Do we have the resolve, experience (both manager and players) and confidence to do it. I'm not so sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red and White Army Posted 8 February, 2009 Share Posted 8 February, 2009 Anything can happen. I believe we can and will stay up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole Posted 8 February, 2009 Share Posted 8 February, 2009 I said we'd be relegated before the season started because i say it how i see it. There was a poll at the time and i couldn't believe only 5 or 6% agreed with me. The season has panned out just as i thought it would and we will get relegated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHAPEL END CHARLIE Posted 8 February, 2009 Share Posted 8 February, 2009 (edited) Before a ball was kicked this season the club was in grave danger of relegation such was the sheer ineptitude of our set up and preparations . I said at the time we'd finish somewhere in the bottom 6 and with the benefit of hindsight it turns out I was being too optimistic . History is repeating itself as it always does when you fail to learn its lessons , not only will we be relegated again we'll probably finish in bottom place again just like 2005 . The only useful thing we can do now is to let Lowe and Wilde - those who are truly responsible for this sorry state of affairs - know exactly what we think of them and what they have in store should they harbour any notion of buying the business off the Administrator . Edited 8 February, 2009 by CHAPEL END CHARLIE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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