Master Bates Posted 20 May, 2009 Share Posted 20 May, 2009 For drink driving and also driving away from the scene of an accident. Bailed til 28th May. Front page of the Echo. Nothing takeover wise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pilsburydoughboy Posted 20 May, 2009 Share Posted 20 May, 2009 It amazed me that he has never been done before seein him in Town some nights its a wonder he could walk the next day let alone play.I still blame him for that 4-1 defeat at pompey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toadhall Saint Posted 20 May, 2009 Share Posted 20 May, 2009 Oh dear - yet another bad story for Saints! When are we going to get some good news?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Bates Posted 20 May, 2009 Author Share Posted 20 May, 2009 Oh dear - yet another bad story for Saints! When are we going to get some good news?? New avatar? Can we have his 12 points? Start on plus 2 what a result that would be? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chocco boxo Posted 20 May, 2009 Share Posted 20 May, 2009 Can we have his 12 points? Start on plus 2 what a result that would be? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skintsaint Posted 20 May, 2009 Share Posted 20 May, 2009 what a *****, deserves more than 6months. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubai_phil Posted 20 May, 2009 Share Posted 20 May, 2009 New avatar? Says it all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pancake Posted 20 May, 2009 Share Posted 20 May, 2009 Silly ****, deserves the time IF TRUE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SW11_Saint Posted 20 May, 2009 Share Posted 20 May, 2009 What a ***t. Sounds like the stories about his "problem" may be true then. Hopefully no one was hurt and this might make him sort himself out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jawillwill Posted 20 May, 2009 Share Posted 20 May, 2009 Take him off the forum banner now :mad: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BotleySaint Posted 20 May, 2009 Share Posted 20 May, 2009 talking of claus... he could probably still do a job in the Blue Square? :-) Idiot though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StuRomseySaint Posted 20 May, 2009 Share Posted 20 May, 2009 Thinking of you Claus at this tough time for you and your family. xx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dicko Posted 20 May, 2009 Share Posted 20 May, 2009 It amazed me that he has never been done before seein him in Town some nights its a wonder he could walk the next day let alone play.I still blame him for that 4-1 defeat at pompey. Yep, his performance suggested he would have failed a breath test before that match Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatch Posted 20 May, 2009 Share Posted 20 May, 2009 Obey the law Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pedro Posted 20 May, 2009 Share Posted 20 May, 2009 In reality he won't get 6 months providing he is not charged with perverting the course of justice like insisting he wasn't driving and the car was stolen. Best take it on the chin, get his ban and do a rehab course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
INFLUENCED.COM Posted 20 May, 2009 Share Posted 20 May, 2009 It would be fair to assume he had a load of fold in his pocket with a taxi rank nearby, drink drivers really are pond life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lee_saint Posted 20 May, 2009 Share Posted 20 May, 2009 Confirmed on SSN, arrested after a crash with a van on the M3 back on the 6th May, he tried to leave the scene of an accident too. Personally, all respect I have for him has just gone, I know someone who was injured by a drink driver who also left the scene of a crash.....Here's hoping the judge throws the book at him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weston Saint Posted 20 May, 2009 Share Posted 20 May, 2009 Having had my youngest brother knocked down and killed by a drunk driver 8 years ago leaving a wife and 3 children under 10 you will no doubt appreciate I have no sympathy with the man. Edit. I have to add the driver remained at the scene pleaded guilty and got 3 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
INFLUENCED.COM Posted 20 May, 2009 Share Posted 20 May, 2009 Confirmed on SSN, arrested after a crash with a van on the M3 back on the 6th May, he tried to leave the scene of an accident too. Is this a 'morning after' incident or a late night early hours incident ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lee_saint Posted 20 May, 2009 Share Posted 20 May, 2009 Is this a 'morning after' incident or a late night early hours incident ? Haven't got a clue mate, they were reading out a Hampshire Police statement which read that he was arrested after a crash on the M3 near Winchester and is to appear at Basingstoke to face trial. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
70's Mike Posted 20 May, 2009 Share Posted 20 May, 2009 Silly man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank's cousin Posted 20 May, 2009 Share Posted 20 May, 2009 Haven't got a clue mate, they were reading out a Hampshire Police statement which read that he was arrested after a crash on the M3 near Winchester and is to appear at Basingstoke to face trial. So is yet to be found guilty? If he is guilty lock him up, get him help, if not then we should maybe lay off the slaggings? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lee_saint Posted 20 May, 2009 Share Posted 20 May, 2009 So is yet to be found guilty? If he is guilty lock him up' date=' get him help, if not then we should maybe lay off the slaggings?[/quote'] Indeed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
egreog Posted 20 May, 2009 Share Posted 20 May, 2009 So is yet to be found guilty? If he is guilty lock him up' date=' get him help, if not then we should maybe lay off the slaggings?[/quote'] Indeed.... wait for trial and verdict before wading in! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
INFLUENCED.COM Posted 20 May, 2009 Share Posted 20 May, 2009 get him help Help with what FC ? is he a alcoholic ? or is he simply a very wealthy man with alot of time on his hands with an active social life ? the latter does not require help, simply understand, not only the law of the land but what all of us know that driving whilst impaired by drink can cause death to others, up the charges for all drink drivers to attempted murder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samoakley Posted 20 May, 2009 Share Posted 20 May, 2009 I saw him being arrested by homebase in winchester at the roundabout i said to my m8 thats claus he was like nah it wasnt so i left it thinking it was a lookalike because it was very dark and didnt see his car properly or him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lee_saint Posted 20 May, 2009 Share Posted 20 May, 2009 'is he a alcoholic' That is something I have been thinking for a long time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Johnson Posted 20 May, 2009 Share Posted 20 May, 2009 Indeed.... wait for trial and verdict before wading in! Come on... this is england, we dont need to actually find someone guility before forming an angry mob.... now where's my pitch fork?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SW11_Saint Posted 20 May, 2009 Share Posted 20 May, 2009 Thinking of you Claus at this tough time for you and your family. xx The only thing I'm thinking is 'you stupid ****'! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoccerMom Posted 20 May, 2009 Share Posted 20 May, 2009 Think about the difference between this and Jordan Robertson six months ago. I know the witnesses who reported the crash said that the first thing they saw was a man sprinting as fast as he could from his own damaged car back to the crash site; later, he was sitting by the side of the road, crying uncontrollably. He apparently cooperated fully with the police, and no, he hadn't been drinking the night before. Claus, if you did do this, you've let us down - how are the mighty fallen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Dark Sotonic Mills Posted 20 May, 2009 Share Posted 20 May, 2009 Come on... this is england, we dont need to actually find someone guility before forming an angry mob.... now where's my pitch fork?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonnyboy Posted 20 May, 2009 Share Posted 20 May, 2009 New avatar? I prefer the old avator - this one makes me dizzy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonnyboy Posted 20 May, 2009 Share Posted 20 May, 2009 Take him off the forum banner now :mad: Yeah, and Dennis Wise Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nineteen Canteen Posted 20 May, 2009 Share Posted 20 May, 2009 Interesting that many lambasted others for speaking out that the man did not deserve a testimonial given his wages whilst at the club and that the term legend was perhaps inappropriate given other widely acknowledged Saints legends. True to form those same people who supported Claus so vociferously are equally quick to condem him and only goes to show that a legend can quickly fade if they do not remain responsible for upholding their respected status. Only this week I was questioned when I challenged the opinion of one poster that he could forgive MLT anything because of his past role at the club. I think this proves that sweeping statements like that don't hold true. For the record I don't include Weston Saint in my analysis as sadly he has justifiably different reasons to find Claus's actions abhorrent. It is right he should be prosecuted and punished accordingly and that those who questioned his motives for a Testimonial as an 'opportunity to say goodbye' seem to have their questions answered by a man who believes it is morally acceptable today to drive under the influence of drink or drugs. The morning after scenario does not partly excuse the crime in any way whatsoever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lordswoodsaints Posted 20 May, 2009 Share Posted 20 May, 2009 My only surprise is he hasn't been caught sooner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted 20 May, 2009 Share Posted 20 May, 2009 Interesting that many lambasted others for speaking out that the man did not deserve a testimonial given his wages whilst at the club and that the term legend was perhaps inappropriate given other widely acknowledged Saints legends. True to form those same people who supported Claus so vociferously are equally quick to condem him and only goes to show that a legend can quickly fade if they do not remain responsible for upholding their respected status. Only this week I was questioned when I challenged the opinion of one poster that he could forgive MLT anything because of his past role at the club. I think this proves that sweeping statements like that don't hold true. For the record I don't include Weston Saint in my analysis as sadly he has justifiably different reasons to find Claus's actions abhorrent. It is right he should be prosecuted and punished accordingly and that those who questioned his motives for a Testimonial as an 'opportunity to say goodbye' seem to have their questions answered by a man who believes it is morally acceptable today to drive under the influence of drink or drugs. The morning after scenario does not partly excuse the crime in any way whatsoever. Good post. Nonetheless one which I'm sure will be roundly attacked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nineteen Canteen Posted 20 May, 2009 Share Posted 20 May, 2009 So is yet to be found guilty? If he is guilty lock him up' date=' get him help, if not then we should maybe lay off the slaggings?[/quote'] Frank, I appreciate you are the voice of a reason but in these cases the police won't charge without good cause. We are not debating the merits of a business decision but the actions of an individual who drove whilst over the limit according to the police who arrested him. I've not read the artcle but Claus I understand left the scene of the accident which will at best hinder his defence that may have otherwise been something like that, I was badly shaken and panicked, someone spiked his drinks or were a bit heavy handed making the sherry trifle he tucked into shortly before leaving unaware of the alcoholic content. I agree innocent until proven guilty but these issues can have life and death consequences for us and all and goes beyond trying to understand the reasoning for appointing a dutch manager or offering a £2m cash injection with unacceptable conditions or whatever. Whatever happens, I doubt Claus will rot on remand and will have time to prepare for the consequences. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Under Weststand Posted 20 May, 2009 Share Posted 20 May, 2009 If proved to be true then I have no sympathy, & he will get all he deserves. We all know the dangers of drink driving & what the consequences can be thankfully its not more serious & nobody has been injured. Hope you sort yourself out Claus, for yourself & your family Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david in sweden Posted 20 May, 2009 Share Posted 20 May, 2009 'is he a alcoholic' That is something I have been thinking for a long time. I don't suppose that footballers are any different to anyone else when it comes to addictions (alcohol or substance abuse), they just get more publicity and media coverage over such incidents. The fact that ikons like George Best and Gazza succumb isn't good PR for football...or any other profession. Pop stars, judges, MP's and even police, but big drinkers who start early, and those who can't control the habit are on a downward road without brakes. Sooner or later - something happens. The fact that they may / may not be wealthy, or have time on their hands is hardly relevant. Some alcoholics would sell the kitchen table to get a drink. Joe Bloggs may work in a factory, or shop and be relatively anonymous in society, sadly those who have known fame and recognition have a greater distance to fall in the eyes of the public. I'm pleased to say that we had a few remarkable seasons with partnerships like ; Lunderkvam / Monkou, Lunderkvam / Richards and Lunderkvam / Svensson. Any of which were a joy to watch and the equal of almost any defensive pair in the last 30 years. He was a brave player, and frequently bled for the cause..was severely injured on several occasions, even played in a "Phantom" mask for a month when we were short at the back and had no other cover. In the end he never recovered from his last injury..and I guess the rest we know. I'm sorry for Claus, though I think he must stand up for his mistake, but the writing was on the wall (IMHO) even in the 2002 Cup Final. He had a real stinker trying to mark Thierry Henry (who wouldn't) but I think that took his confidence as he wasn't the same player afterwards. Tough world Claus, be glad you didn't injure anyone and take it like a man! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TNT Posted 20 May, 2009 Share Posted 20 May, 2009 This happened at Junction 9 of the M3 i believe. What i dont get is he has been charged with driving away from an accident. But was arrrested for being over the limit. Incident occured on May 6th at 8.45pm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lee_saint Posted 20 May, 2009 Share Posted 20 May, 2009 Arrested for drink driving and leaving the scene of an accident. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StuRomseySaint Posted 20 May, 2009 Share Posted 20 May, 2009 Meh, check out all you gumbo's. I personally don't give a f*ck what Claus does in his own time, especially now when he has absolutely nothing to do with SFC. Get off your high horses people, legends make their names on that green bit of grass on the pitch, they don't lose that status for what they do off it, when they have retired. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weston Saint Posted 20 May, 2009 Share Posted 20 May, 2009 Meh, check out all you gumbo's. I personally don't give a f*ck what Claus does in his own time, especially now when he has absolutely nothing to do with SFC. Get off your high horses people, legends make their names on that green bit of grass on the pitch, they don't lose that status for what they do off it, when they have retired.Your overall attitude to this offends me for reasons I have stated earlier on this thread. But hey you have never been affected by this so are not coming from a position of strength. I think I will get off this thread now. I have no more to add. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special K Posted 20 May, 2009 Share Posted 20 May, 2009 Meh, check out all you gumbo's. I personally don't give a f*ck what Claus does in his own time, especially now when he has absolutely nothing to do with SFC. Get off your high horses people, legends make their names on that green bit of grass on the pitch, they don't lose that status for what they do off it, when they have retired. This post is a load of old pony, but the most incredible thing is that SRS tries to bestow "legend" status upon old Claus Lukewarm. FFS, that is stretching it a bit. He was a half decent centre back at best and he's now confirmed he's better at being a ****head than he was a defender. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victor Posted 20 May, 2009 Share Posted 20 May, 2009 Couldn't he tell a little porkie and claim he played for MU? Worked for Ronaldo et al. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westofshannonsaint Posted 20 May, 2009 Share Posted 20 May, 2009 I don't suppose that footballers are any different to anyone else when it comes to addictions (alcohol or substance abuse), they just get more publicity and media coverage over such incidents. The fact that ikons like George Best and Gazza succumb isn't good PR for football...or any other profession. Pop stars, judges, MP's and even police, but big drinkers who start early, and those who can't control the habit are on a downward road without brakes. Sooner or later - something happens. The fact that they may / may not be wealthy, or have time on their hands is hardly relevant. Some alcoholics would sell the kitchen table to get a drink. Joe Bloggs may work in a factory, or shop and be relatively anonymous in society, sadly those who have known fame and recognition have a greater distance to fall in the eyes of the public. I'm pleased to say that we had a few remarkable seasons with partnerships like ; Lunderkvam / Monkou, Lunderkvam / Richards and Lunderkvam / Svensson. Any of which were a joy to watch and the equal of almost any defensive pair in the last 30 years. He was a brave player, and frequently bled for the cause..was severely injured on several occasions, even played in a "Phantom" mask for a month when we were short at the back and had no other cover. In the end he never recovered from his last injury..and I guess the rest we know. I'm sorry for Claus, though I think he must stand up for his mistake, but the writing was on the wall (IMHO) even in the 2002 Cup Final. He had a real stinker trying to mark Thierry Henry (who wouldn't) but I think that took his confidence as he wasn't the same player afterwards. Tough world Claus, be glad you didn't injure anyone and take it like a man! well said David, Footballers are human, what Claus has done now has no reflection on the service he gave to Saints. Personally I view this the same as if a family member or friend done something equally as stupid, I hope Claus learns from his mistake and seek help if he needs it (I think he does because there is on excuse for drink driving). If he is convicted I hope he takes his punishment like a man, but I think he will probably get a high priced lawyer and get off on a technicality (but that is a money/class thing and nothing to do with him being a footballer) there have been hints of Claus having a drink problem on here since the time when he was at the club, perhaps the club should have tried to get him help at the same time he was club captain, or harry should have introduced a drinking ban here. Get off your high horses people, legends make their names on that green bit of grass on the pitch, they don't lose that status for what they do off it, when they have retired. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Bates Posted 20 May, 2009 Author Share Posted 20 May, 2009 http://www.dailyecho.co.uk/news/4381808.Ex_Saints_captain_faces_drink_driving_charge/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StuRomseySaint Posted 20 May, 2009 Share Posted 20 May, 2009 Your overall attitude to this offends me for reasons I have stated earlier on this thread. But hey you have never been affected by this so are not coming from a position of strength. I think I will get off this thread now. I have no more to add. And how do you know I have never been affected by the loss of a family member due to a drink driver? You are wrong Weston, I have, 2 infact, and an unborn cousin, in probably one of the most public incidents which involved speeding and 'suspected' ( he was ****ed, the French c*nts just didn't test him )drink driving which killed 11 people. I just don't wish to link Lundekvam as a player to him being a **** now he is retired. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hopkins Posted 20 May, 2009 Share Posted 20 May, 2009 Still a legend in my eyes. Apart from that Pompey performance someone mentioned earlier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StuRomseySaint Posted 20 May, 2009 Share Posted 20 May, 2009 Still a legend in my eyes. Apart from that Pompey performance someone mentioned earlier. Exactly, he is still a legend, anyone who qualifies for a Testimonial deserves that status. What he done on the pitch, and what he does off the pitch are two completely different things and I will hold different opinions for each. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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