Window Cleaner Posted 30 May, 2014 Share Posted 30 May, 2014 I assume he won't play tonight against Peru now? Surely Saints won't allow him to be picked before a medical for a club move? Saints have no choice in the matter, the entire squad is at the disposition of the team manager. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRobbie Posted 30 May, 2014 Share Posted 30 May, 2014 Saints have no choice in the matter, the entire squad is at the disposition of the team manager. That can't be true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted 30 May, 2014 Share Posted 30 May, 2014 if we can get £8M for him before the WC - and he gets injured.... IF, but the figure of £4m is being touted. It does seem a lot of money for a 32 year old who at times seemed to struggle last year... As I said on another thread, it all depends what happens to the money and which manager we get in. if we get a good manager and they get all this money + more then that's a good sign of intent! However I am wondering now... It does make the statement of no offers on the table look rather stupid! Reading that though, it brought back memories of selling Shearer, and the "Dixon and Speedie will get more goals..." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Jeff Posted 30 May, 2014 Share Posted 30 May, 2014 It does seem a lot of money for a 32 year old who at times seemed to struggle last year... As I said on another thread, it all depends what happens to the money and which manager we get in. if we get a good manager and they get all this money + more then that's a good sign of intent! However I am wondering now... It does make the statement of no offers on the table look rather stupid! But at the time Reed said that I don't dispute that was true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRobbie Posted 30 May, 2014 Share Posted 30 May, 2014 However I am wondering now... It does make the statement of no offers on the table look rather stupid! Stupid at best, lack of integrity at worst. I hope it was just stupidity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jayrivers Posted 30 May, 2014 Share Posted 30 May, 2014 But at the time Reed said that I don't dispute that was true. I was thinking when RK said it two days ago? Or maybe he didn't confirm it to that extent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRobbie Posted 30 May, 2014 Share Posted 30 May, 2014 I bet the agents of our players are all working very hard at the moment. Ching Ching. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
melmacian_saint Posted 30 May, 2014 Share Posted 30 May, 2014 If the fee is 8 million then I can't complain. To get that for a 32-year old striker, who might be an England international and top English scorer in the Prem (last year at least?) but is at the end of his career is great. Plus it's his boyhood club so I'm sure he'd do everything for a move. Thank you Rickie, it's been amazing and I wish you well back home! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marino Posted 30 May, 2014 Share Posted 30 May, 2014 S'long Rickie - thanks for the memories and good luck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 30 May, 2014 Share Posted 30 May, 2014 £4m + add-ons SSN have just reported as the fee agreed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaptopSaint Posted 30 May, 2014 Share Posted 30 May, 2014 Atletico Madrid. Just won La Liga and came within a couple of minutes of added time of winning the Champions League too. Players linked to moves so far (to Premier League big boys and elsewhere): Diego Costa, Miranda, Juanfran, Koke, Gabi, David Silva... have I missed anyone? They will lose maybe three of them, pick themselves up, make a couple of good buys, bring on a couple of kids, and go again. No reason why we can't do the same. (Although it will still be heartbreaking to read the caption on the telly 'Rickie Lambert (Liverpool)' when he comes on after 77 minutes against Italy and then scores... Just stay until July 15th, Rickie, it's a sentimental thing.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Jeff Posted 30 May, 2014 Share Posted 30 May, 2014 I was thinking when RK said it two days ago? Or maybe he didn't confirm it to that extent He didn't say that. He said that we are in control of the transfers however. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 30 May, 2014 Share Posted 30 May, 2014 £4m? might as well give him away lol at our club. no wonder, NC, MP and the players cant wait to leave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
melmacian_saint Posted 30 May, 2014 Share Posted 30 May, 2014 £4m + add-ons SSN have just reported as the fee agreed. Oh, I'm not so sure about that being good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubai_phil Posted 30 May, 2014 Share Posted 30 May, 2014 Reality has just struck home. With my Scouse supporting youngest Son. Who has just realised they are replacing Suarez with SRL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 30 May, 2014 Share Posted 30 May, 2014 £4m + add-ons SSN have just reported as the fee agreed. So no change from last night then, hard to believe, unless of course the add ons bring us another 3 or 4 million for scoring at least one goal in the WC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasoneuelllfanclub Posted 30 May, 2014 Share Posted 30 May, 2014 Look no reasonable Saints fan will begrudge Lambert this move. The issue is the domino effect this is likely to have on departures and club morale. We have seen Poch and Lambert (virtually) leave this week, talks with Utd over Shaw have also resumed today. Time for the happy clappers to pull their heads out from the sand and get real. We have had nothing but waffle and contradictory bull**** from the club since that statement from Les Reed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToreSF Posted 30 May, 2014 Share Posted 30 May, 2014 The latest weeks has really made me realise how good the last 5 seasons has been. Not been this depressed since we went into admin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 30 May, 2014 Share Posted 30 May, 2014 Reality has just struck home. With my Scouse supporting youngest Son. Who has just realised they are replacing Suarez with SRL Well I hope he's been cut out of your will then, mother's influence i suppose.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRobbie Posted 30 May, 2014 Share Posted 30 May, 2014 £4m + add-ons SSN have just reported as the fee agreed. £4m? Sounds like we were out negotiated at the end to me. Still, if I was a Liverpool fan now i'd be wondering if a striker who looked off the pace at times this season in the last year or so of his career was worth it. But hey - 10 goals next season from a super substitute may win them the League. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 30 May, 2014 Share Posted 30 May, 2014 £4m? Sounds like we were out negotiated at the end to me. Still, if I was a Liverpool fan now i'd be wondering if a striker who looked off the pace at times this season in the last year or so of his career was worth it. But hey - 10 goals next season from a super substitute may win them the League. it is almost a freebee for them at that price. it would be for us also with the mental TV money Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 30 May, 2014 Share Posted 30 May, 2014 Look no reasonable Saints fan will begrudge Lambert this move. The issue is the domino effect this is likely to have on departures and club morale. We have seen Poch and Lambert (virtually) leave this week, talks with Utd over Shaw have also resumed today. Time for the happy clappers to pull their heads out from the sand and get real. We have had nothing but waffle and contradictory bull**** from the club since that statement from Les Reed. we have nothing but waffle and contradictory bullsh*t from the club since the 15th January. What happened to the CEO we held interviews for, oh yes died a death and got a beancounter on the job, what happened to one in one out, oh yes 2 out... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted 30 May, 2014 Share Posted 30 May, 2014 £4m + add-ons SSN have just reported as the fee agreed. very poor. Talk your way out of this one, Ralph, Les, whoever.. Forget Ronald Koeman as the next manager, Ronald Macf^ckingDonald will be more appropriate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mouldy Coat Posted 30 May, 2014 Share Posted 30 May, 2014 Maybe KL wants to spend the £4m on liposuction Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 30 May, 2014 Share Posted 30 May, 2014 Maybe KL wants to spend the £4m on liposuction there'd be add-ons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beatlesaint Posted 30 May, 2014 Share Posted 30 May, 2014 we have nothing but waffle and contradictory bullsh*t from the club since the 15th January. What happened to the CEO we held interviews for, oh yes died a death and got a beancounter on the job, what happened to one in one out, oh yes 2 out... Absolutely. I was prepared for MP going, I am prepared for Shaw and Lallana. But Rickie ? I mean all the best to him but the heart has just been ripped out of Southampton for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daveygwyatt Posted 30 May, 2014 Share Posted 30 May, 2014 very poor. Talk your way out of this one, Ralph, Les, whoever.. Forget Ronald Koeman as the next manager, Ronald Macf^ckingDonald will be more appropriate. Made me chuckle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shroppie Posted 30 May, 2014 Share Posted 30 May, 2014 Ok. I admit it. I've been trying to keep the faith and stay positive but this (the way it's being done and the fee, not letting RL go) is just bad. Would never have happened under Cortese. Which, of course, is exactly what he wants everyone to know. We haven't seen the last of him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mouldy Coat Posted 30 May, 2014 Share Posted 30 May, 2014 there'd be add-ons. yes, just the consultation. Apparently the whole first team has to go in order to cover the first treatment phase Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 30 May, 2014 Share Posted 30 May, 2014 Absolutely. I was prepared for MP going, I am prepared for Shaw and Lallana. But Rickie ? I mean all the best to him but the heart has just been ripped out of Southampton for me. doesn't stop there, Morgan is as good as gone, he's been very diplomatic about it for sure but he'll put in a written request this summer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jayrivers Posted 30 May, 2014 Share Posted 30 May, 2014 very poor. Talk your way out of this one, Ralph, Les, whoever.. Forget Ronald Koeman as the next manager, Ronald Macf^ckingDonald will be more appropriate. I think I would be less worried if these players were being sold after we annouced a new Manager! As people have said you cannot begrudge him his move, but it's more the timing of this after what RK said. "Any transfers that take place will be under our terms. We will decide the terms to potential transfers in and out of the club. "We will involve the manager. That is important for everybody to know. That's why we have been able to not agree to any transfers to date, because we have control of the situation, and anybody who is saying anything else doesn't understand that we are in a strong position with the Saints." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalek2003 Posted 30 May, 2014 Share Posted 30 May, 2014 It is disappointing at the moment that we are selling. But what are we to do ? We cannot buy until we get in our new manager. Then, we can move strongly to strengthen the squad, maybe picking up some gems from the WC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Polaroid Saint Posted 30 May, 2014 Share Posted 30 May, 2014 Brendon Rogers one man assault to upset the England camp? Bloody foreigners. Etc. Does 'Suarez' count as one of the add-ons? Sent from my Nexus 4 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich102 Posted 30 May, 2014 Share Posted 30 May, 2014 PL Combined Goals and Assists Last Season Luis Suárez Liverpool 31 13 44 Daniel Sturridge Liverpool 22 7 29 Yaya Touré Manchester City 20 9 29 Wayne Rooney Manchester United 17 10 27 Steven Gerrard Liverpool 13 14 27 Sergio Agüero Manchester City 17 6 23 Olivier Giroud Arsenal 16 7 23 Rickie Lambert Southampton 13 10 23 Romelu Lukaku Everton 15 6 21 Eden Hazard Chelsea 14 7 21 Wilfried Bony Swansea City 17 3 20 Edin Džeko Manchester City 16 4 20 Sure he's 32, but tell me who else on that list you could buy for £15mil, let alone 4. Put another way, how much will it cost us to replace those 23 goals? Don't blame Rickie for a second but this is a joke business wise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted 30 May, 2014 Share Posted 30 May, 2014 Ok. I admit it. I've been trying to keep the faith and stay positive but this (the way it's being done and the fee, not letting RL go) is just bad. Would never have happened under Cortese. Which, of course, is exactly what he wants everyone to know. We haven't seen the last of him. Thought he was coming back as a saviour buying us ? What happened to that little theory ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shroppie Posted 30 May, 2014 Share Posted 30 May, 2014 PL Combined Goals and Assists Last Season Luis SuárezLiverpool311344 Daniel SturridgeLiverpool22729 Yaya TouréManchester City20929 Wayne RooneyManchester United171027 Steven GerrardLiverpool131427 Sergio AgüeroManchester City17623 Olivier GiroudArsenal16723 Rickie LambertSouthampton131023 Romelu LukakuEverton15621 Eden HazardChelsea14721 Wilfried BonySwansea City17320 Edin DžekoManchester City16420 Sure he's 32, but tell me who else on that list you could buy for £15mil, let alone 4. Put another way, how much will it cost us to replace those 23 goals? Don't blame Rickie for a second but this is a joke business wise. Agreed. Appalling lack of appreciation of his value. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 30 May, 2014 Share Posted 30 May, 2014 (edited) Thought he was coming back as a saviour buying us ? What happened to that little theory ? probably waiting until the fire sale is over, club will be worth far less. Can't see him coming back myself, honestly he's gone for good. Doesn't do the current outfit any harm to have crap heaped on Cortese at every time that they do something unpopular with the fans, letting him be blamed for events largely outside his control suits them well. Edited 30 May, 2014 by Window Cleaner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted 30 May, 2014 Share Posted 30 May, 2014 I think I would be less worried if these players were being sold after we annouced a new Manager! As people have said you cannot begrudge him his move, but it's more the timing of this after what RK said. "Any transfers that take place will be under our terms. We will decide the terms to potential transfers in and out of the club. "We will involve the manager. That is important for everybody to know. That's why we have been able to not agree to any transfers to date, because we have control of the situation, and anybody who is saying anything else doesn't understand that we are in a strong position with the Saints." Looking rather hollow now isn't it ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted 30 May, 2014 Share Posted 30 May, 2014 probably waiting until the fire sale is over, club will be worth far less. Can't see him coming back myself, honestly he's gone for good. nor do I. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shroppie Posted 30 May, 2014 Share Posted 30 May, 2014 What I simply don't understand is the rush to do it now. Absolutely nothing to lose in waiting until after the WC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRobbie Posted 30 May, 2014 Share Posted 30 May, 2014 One thing that worries me about selling Rickie without a managers input is not knowing the impact that he had in the changing room, the bit we don't see. Will it mean others will fold and go? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jayrivers Posted 30 May, 2014 Share Posted 30 May, 2014 One thing that worries me about selling Rickie without a managers input is not knowing the impact that he had in the changing room, the bit we don't see. Will it mean others will fold and go? Yep - there seems to be nothing holding the club or the team together. I was very positive about everything, and would have been had we not started selling before we had a manager in! I think that's the key and where everything has gone wrong. They could have said to Lambert - yes we'll let you go but jsut wait for a new manager then we won't stand in your way. It's not ****ing difficult! I believe he would have given the club that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shroppie Posted 30 May, 2014 Share Posted 30 May, 2014 probably waiting until the fire sale is over, club will be worth far less. Can't see him coming back myself, honestly he's gone for good. Doesn't do the current outfit any harm to have crap heaped on Cortese at every time that they do something unpopular with the fans, letting him be blamed for events largely outside his control suits them well. In which case I assume the undermining of the club is just for his self-satisfaction and ego boosting. They failed without me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubai_phil Posted 30 May, 2014 Share Posted 30 May, 2014 Out of interest, just who the hell did Liverpool Negotiate with? RK was seen at Burton last night. Was all this really done on a mobile phone while he was sat in the Stands/Driving back down the A34? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 30 May, 2014 Share Posted 30 May, 2014 One thing that worries me about selling Rickie without a managers input is not knowing the impact that he had in the changing room, the bit we don't see. Will it mean others will fold and go? I'm sure the likes of Lovren and Schneiderlin are buzzing at thought of playing in a team minus Lambert, Shaw and Lallana, with no Pochettino and without the man that in Lovren's case sold him the ambition of the club. Pretty clear both will be looking to leave. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 30 May, 2014 Share Posted 30 May, 2014 Out of interest, just who the hell did Liverpool Negotiate with? RK was seen at Burton last night. Was all this really done on a mobile phone while he was sat in the Stands/Driving back down the A34? Err, Reed - who RK said is in charge of the negotiations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 30 May, 2014 Share Posted 30 May, 2014 I think I would be less worried if these players were being sold after we annouced a new Manager! As people have said you cannot begrudge him his move, but it's more the timing of this after what RK said. "Any transfers that take place will be under our terms. We will decide the terms to potential transfers in and out of the club. "We will involve the manager. That is important for everybody to know. That's why we have been able to not agree to any transfers to date, because we have control of the situation, and anybody who is saying anything else doesn't understand that we are in a strong position with the Saints." perhaps he ran the sale of Lambert by the entire managerial short list yesterday whilst he was at Burton, I mean they were probably all there watching our U19s dominate world football. Look we've got Gallagher he's fantastic OK to sell Lambert, yeah Ralph whatever, we can get someone in the draft, probably have to trade up in the 4th round though, offer Pompey a couple of next year's draft picks and ten quid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bucks Saint Posted 30 May, 2014 Share Posted 30 May, 2014 Looking rather hollow now isn't it ? Agreed. Similarly Roy's words about no transfers etc while with England. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonzo Posted 30 May, 2014 Share Posted 30 May, 2014 I just don't get it. Don't get me wrong, I don't blame Rickie for a second. We all know it was his boyhood dream to play for Liverpool, and he's no doubt getting a payrise to boot. But to sell him for £4m? I'm sorry, that's a fecking insult. He may be 32, but his contribution makes him worth a whole crapload more than that. SFC is screwing themselves with this. Might as well sell the whole first team on the cheap. Maybe they're trying to speed up the process of more league derbies against Pompey. FFS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 30 May, 2014 Share Posted 30 May, 2014 People who say he wants to go because he loves the club are forgetting that a short while ago he said his love is for Southampton now. I know people will dismiss it but i genuinely believe he is a saints fan now rather than a liverpool fan. The way he was singing along with OWTS on the lap of honour showed that as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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