dronskisaint Posted 3 February, 2010 Share Posted 3 February, 2010 What is the point ? nearly every household in the PO postal code already has one except they are more commonly known, down there, as baths I think you may be misunderstanding the concept of caravan dweller.....& the great unwashed?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tombletomble Posted 3 February, 2010 Share Posted 3 February, 2010 Well he isn't scared of being fined for 2 weeks wages he won't be paid anyway. If his does get fined and then doesn't pay, will he be able to claim that it was because of a fault at the bank! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRM Posted 3 February, 2010 Share Posted 3 February, 2010 I still don't understand this. They are a week away from a winding up order court hearing? The players still haven't been paid for last month? and yet they are still signing more players? http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/p/portsmouth/8495353.stm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teamsaint Posted 3 February, 2010 Share Posted 3 February, 2010 I still don't understand this. They are a week away from a winding up order court hearing? The players still haven't been paid for last month? and yet they are still signing more players? http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/p/portsmouth/8495353.stm Well they don't really worry about paying people, so whats to worry about? Can't imagine that unpaid local businesses are too impressed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmel Posted 3 February, 2010 Share Posted 3 February, 2010 Well they don't really worry about paying people, so whats to worry about? Can't imagine that unpaid local businesses are too impressed. And yet not a word from the others teams fighting relegation. If I were them, I would be battering the PL. Whilst the PL aren't blameless in all of this, they are in a real fix with regard to what they can do. It looks to me like pompey are going for **** or bust; If they don't lose to HMRC they will get an extension by simply delaying tactics, which leaves them fighting for pl survival......if tyhey manage that, then they have something to sell, if not they are fooked anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Keith Posted 3 February, 2010 Share Posted 3 February, 2010 And yet not a word from the others teams fighting relegation. If I were them, I would be battering the PL. Whilst the PL aren't blameless in all of this, they are in a real fix with regard to what they can do. It looks to me like pompey are going for **** or bust; If they don't lose to HMRC they will get an extension by simply delaying tactics, which leaves them fighting for pl survival......if tyhey manage that, then they have something to sell, if not they are fooked anyway. i think the PL are praying that its taken out of their hands, either by the WUO next week, or by them getting relegated they are in serious **** street if neither of those happen, as pompey would be back as an almost viable concern at that point Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRM Posted 3 February, 2010 Share Posted 3 February, 2010 And yet not a word from the others teams fighting relegation. If I were them, I would be battering the PL. Whilst the PL aren't blameless in all of this, they are in a real fix with regard to what they can do. It looks to me like pompey are going for **** or bust; If they don't lose to HMRC they will get an extension by simply delaying tactics, which leaves them fighting for pl survival......if tyhey manage that, then they have something to sell, if not they are fooked anyway. If it wasn't for us playing them soon I would be quite relaxed about it, if anything wanting their relegation to be a long slow drawn out process with admin in the summer, and points deductions next year, but since the cup draw I hoped for a dramatic firesale of players to help us find a level playing field for the cup game. As most of our new signings are cup tied we've got to hope the side who played against Ipswich have another top performance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bridge too far Posted 3 February, 2010 Share Posted 3 February, 2010 Well they don't really worry about paying people, so whats to worry about? Can't imagine that unpaid local businesses are too impressed. 'Big' business isn't renowned for its morality and decency. The little guy always suffers whilst the big boys carry on regardless :mad: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ringwood Posted 3 February, 2010 Share Posted 3 February, 2010 well the new player must be the only thing that Chainrai doesn't have a charge over!, is he due a signing on fee? whats the PFA doing they should be telling players the chances of not getting paid , and do the players have insurance? what happens if one gets a career ending injury ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 3 February, 2010 Share Posted 3 February, 2010 hear they were all paid this afternoon, is that right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimonRichards Posted 3 February, 2010 Share Posted 3 February, 2010 hear they were all paid this afternoon, is that right? That is what P*rtsmouth FC have told Solent an hour ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fowllyd Posted 3 February, 2010 Share Posted 3 February, 2010 hear they were all paid this afternoon, is that right? Not according to this: http://www.portsmouth.co.uk/sport/Pompey-staff-anger-as-club.6037231.jp Admittedly there's no time on it, just today's date, but I should think they'd wait until wages should have been paid before reporting that they hadn't been. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Keith Posted 3 February, 2010 Share Posted 3 February, 2010 Not according to this: http://www.portsmouth.co.uk/sport/Pompey-staff-anger-as-club.6037231.jp Admittedly there's no time on it, just today's date, but I should think they'd wait until wages should have been paid before reporting that they hadn't been. was updated an hour or two ago. according to this they have been paid http://www.portsmouth.co.uk/newshome/Pompey-players-finally-paid.6040570.jp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fowllyd Posted 3 February, 2010 Share Posted 3 February, 2010 was updated an hour or two ago. according to this they have been paid http://www.portsmouth.co.uk/newshome/Pompey-players-finally-paid.6040570.jp Ah - just realised that the page I linked to was last updated early this morning, so it related to yesterday's failure to pay. Easy to get confused with so many failures to pay happening at once though... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clapham Saint Posted 3 February, 2010 Share Posted 3 February, 2010 well the new player must be the only thing that Chainrai doesn't have a charge over!, is he due a signing on fee? whats the PFA doing they should be telling players the chances of not getting paid , and do the players have insurance? what happens if one gets a career ending injury ? If he has a floating charge over all assets (as reported) then he actually has a charge over the contracts of new signings as well... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Keith Posted 3 February, 2010 Share Posted 3 February, 2010 If he has a floating charge over all assets (as reported) then he actually has a charge over the contracts of new signings as well... jesus, is that even allowed under the PL rules? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_John Posted 3 February, 2010 Share Posted 3 February, 2010 The local Basingstoke paper's report on Grosvenor Basingstoke Properties being added to the winding up order http://www.basingstokegazette.co.uk/news/4888535.Pompey_sued_by_Basingstoke_property_firm/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ringwood Posted 3 February, 2010 Share Posted 3 February, 2010 Is this thread as confusing as the accounts at FP? Even Avram seems confused perhaps thats why he's getting in new players and no one's told him about the 10th Feb or maybe he expects to be paid then? Bet the only ones providing a service to PCFC not indebted to is Unit One!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmel Posted 3 February, 2010 Share Posted 3 February, 2010 The local Basingstoke paper's report on Grosvenor Basingstoke Properties being added to the winding up order http://www.basingstokegazette.co.uk/news/4888535.Pompey_sued_by_Basingstoke_property_firm/ Grovesnor is owned by Prince Phillip I believe, which means a husband and wife double act on sinking pompey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gaz Posted 3 February, 2010 Share Posted 3 February, 2010 Grovesnor is owned by Prince Phillip I believe, which means a husband and wife double act on sinking pompey May I humbly suggest to Her Madjesty.... Peter Storrie: Off with his head? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bridge too far Posted 3 February, 2010 Share Posted 3 February, 2010 Grovesnor is owned by Prince Phillip I believe, which means a husband and wife double act on sinking pompey I don't think it's the same company. Grosvenor Estates is owned by the Duke of Westminster. However, this lot seem to be something different: http://wck2.companieshouse.gov.uk/f51a98e50251d20021f9601d5ed7cddb/compdetails Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Saint Posted 3 February, 2010 Share Posted 3 February, 2010 jesus, is that even allowed under the PL rules? Banks do it all the time. It effectively means that he gets first dibs on everything as the assets are secured. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmel Posted 3 February, 2010 Share Posted 3 February, 2010 I don't think it's the same company. Grosvenor Estates is owned by the Duke of Westminster. However, this lot seem to be something different: http://wck2.companieshouse.gov.uk/f51a98e50251d20021f9601d5ed7cddb/compdetails BTF you are right, I worked with them a couple of years ago and the sands of time are catching up and wreaking their revenge..... it is of course the Duke of Westminster and not Prince Phillip Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hutch Posted 3 February, 2010 Share Posted 3 February, 2010 If he has a floating charge over all assets (as reported) then he actually has a charge over the contracts of new signings as well... Unless, as I understand it, they are liquidated. In which case the players become free agents. Correct me if I'm wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chin Strain Posted 3 February, 2010 Share Posted 3 February, 2010 jesus, is that even allowed under the PL rules? I would think that HMRC would be challenging that, given the WUP was issued prior to the loan being taken out, and the remaining assets placed under a charge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hutch Posted 3 February, 2010 Share Posted 3 February, 2010 I think the loan was before the WUP, but the (second) charge was registered after. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 3 February, 2010 Share Posted 3 February, 2010 Playing well again against Fulham but just cannot score again. If they lose tonight I think they are going to find it extremely difficult with Manure next. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hutch Posted 3 February, 2010 Share Posted 3 February, 2010 And Grant's got the dilemma of whether to bring on the tea lady or the bog cleaner to sharpen up the attack. They're both up for it, now that they've been paid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Munster Posted 3 February, 2010 Share Posted 3 February, 2010 Apart from the "sleeing with Thai hookers" bit, yeah? And lying that he knew nothing about the sales of Kaboul and Bergovic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carljack Posted 3 February, 2010 Share Posted 3 February, 2010 Yes yes yes ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevegrant Posted 3 February, 2010 Share Posted 3 February, 2010 From what Scott Minto's been saying on Sky, it sounds like Pompey's entire season wrapped up into 90 minutes - plenty of possession and chances, but fail to take them and get punished at the other end. Shame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergei Gotsmanov Posted 3 February, 2010 Share Posted 3 February, 2010 It must have been a late goal - the Beeb website had already added a point on for Pompey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Channon's Sideburns Posted 3 February, 2010 Share Posted 3 February, 2010 Nice to see Ed Chamberlain managing to stifle a smile when talking about the Skates problems... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcjwills Posted 3 February, 2010 Share Posted 3 February, 2010 Fulham one up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjii Posted 3 February, 2010 Share Posted 3 February, 2010 Get in. Have some of that you ****s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevegrant Posted 3 February, 2010 Share Posted 3 February, 2010 It must have been a late goal - the Beeb website had already added a point on for Pompey. 8pm kickoff, so still 15 mins to go Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjii Posted 3 February, 2010 Share Posted 3 February, 2010 It must have been a late goal - the Beeb website had already added a point on for Pompey. Beeb website seems to be a bit broken. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 3 February, 2010 Share Posted 3 February, 2010 It must have been a late goal - the Beeb website had already added a point on for Pompey. Beeb website seems to be a bit broken. That would be the "as it stands" table, which updates as goals go in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthamSaint Posted 3 February, 2010 Share Posted 3 February, 2010 BBC Site knackered. Fulham still winning 1-0 according to Sky Sports News Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carljack Posted 3 February, 2010 Share Posted 3 February, 2010 BBC Site knackered. Fulham still winning 1-0 according to Sky Sports News All over 1-0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthamSaint Posted 3 February, 2010 Share Posted 3 February, 2010 1-0 Full time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Under Weststand Posted 3 February, 2010 Share Posted 3 February, 2010 LOL shame 6-points adrift from saftey & Manure away next. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Chalet Posted 3 February, 2010 Share Posted 3 February, 2010 To be fair at least they managed nil tonight, they'd kill for that to be their bank balance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjii Posted 3 February, 2010 Share Posted 3 February, 2010 That would be the "as it stands" table, which updates as goals go in. Er, no. The live commentary stopped on 27 minutes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Shearer Posted 3 February, 2010 Share Posted 3 February, 2010 The teams are above them are still completely garbage though which is annoying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevegrant Posted 3 February, 2010 Share Posted 3 February, 2010 The teams are above them are still completely garbage though which is annoying. Not really, just shows how crap they are that they're still comfortably behind the likes of Hull, Burnley and Wolves Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Shearer Posted 3 February, 2010 Share Posted 3 February, 2010 Not really, just shows how crap they are that they're still comfortably behind the likes of Hull, Burnley and Wolves True. I'm just counting down the number of games they have left, reducing their chances of avoiding relegation as I have a nagging feeling that they wont go into admin just yet. 15 games left. 2 wins needed just to draw level. 13 games. Do not see them beating Manure, Liverpool, Chelsea, Everton or Villa. 8 games left effectively to save their season in my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TopGun Posted 3 February, 2010 Share Posted 3 February, 2010 The teams are above them are still completely garbage though which is annoying. So they are on about 0.66 points per game. They do have quite a few home fixtures against teams they need to beat but I can't see them breaking 30 points even if they had an unlikely renaissance. That assumes they reach the end of the season as a live club or without 9 points docked. With a bit of luck the whole thing will start affecting them anyway and they start to unravel dramatically on the pitch as well as off it. I feel there is a thin end of the wedge approaching as far as players' faith and patience with the entire scenario. It's a lot of pressure for the players to handle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rallyboy Posted 3 February, 2010 Share Posted 3 February, 2010 if Carlsberg did local rivals they would come to your place when ten points from safety and insolvent, in the very week that you book your Wembley tickets! - but let's not get ahead of ourselves...it's a long shot, they might be only eight points adrift by then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Shearer Posted 3 February, 2010 Share Posted 3 February, 2010 So they are on about 0.66 points per game. They do have quite a few home fixtures against teams they need to beat but I can't see them breaking 30 points even if they had an unlikely renaissance. That assumes they reach the end of the season as a live club or without 9 points docked. With a bit of luck the whole thing will start affecting them anyway and they start to unravel dramatically on the pitch as well as off it. I feel there is a thin end of the wedge approaching as far as players' faith and patience with the entire scenario. It's a lot of pressure for the players to handle. The sooner the better! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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