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Poxy little team in a complete toss-hole of a Saaf-East London suburb. There you have to wipe your shoes when you leave their houses.

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"Idiots.

 

It'll be fun seeing him deal with a minus 10 start at a skint club.

 

Wonder if they'll pay for his swish motors?"

 

hahaha what a clueless idiot, tbf they were corrected later but still

 

Ironically, that may very soon be their humble position!

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We have had a lot of trouble with them in recent years, i have got no idea why it started but seem to remember incidents at charlton away and home here for a few seasons.

 

It all started when it was decided that Charlton was an area full of common, saarf east London ****s. That's how I remember it anyway.

 

I would take what they say as gospel but as we all know the average IQ round there is around 83, so it doesn't really matter to me.

 

They complain about his signings, McLeod, Varney etc, who I remember we all wanted to sign...

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Lol, just read through the charlton thread, they really are a clueless bunch of c*nts aren't they ??

 

Saints skint ?? Have you not read the news ?? You lot are in 40 mil of debt guys and heading towards admin so i would keep the slimey mouths shut about punishment.

 

Besides, think pardew will do ok, charlton tied his hands when it came to spending and they really were a dire dire football team, how we lost to them i really don't know.

 

If Pard's goes in for shelvey i would be in dream land, i'd like to say asset strip the whining council estators but they really have not got anything worth taking.

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Actually most of the Charlton fans I know like Saints and see us as a similar sort of club. There are a few idiots - yes, I have encountered them in pubs around Greenwich - but nothing worse than us. There was that nonsense at Maze Hill and one or two pub incidents in Soton City Centre but frankly I'd be amazed if the Saints/Charlton rivarly really exists outside of about 100 idiots on either side.

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They seem to have picked us as rivals as no other London clubs fans take them seriously, Palace, Millwall and West Ham should be their rivals but they're too busy hating each other!

 

I think you may be very right for a very small and sad element of their fanbase and probably ditto our idiots as well as Pompey can't be bothered either at the moment. As I say, I don't think 95% of either clubs' fans would be aware of it really.

 

Besides which, it's Pardew they seem to hate anyway. If Coventry had played us when Strachan was still in charge of us, they'd have been seriously keyed up to win and get one over on WGS.

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What a pity they're struggling to survive:

 

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1199063/Charlton-brink-40m-debt-set-scupper-takeover-bid.html

 

I guess Gillingham are going to be the biggest club in the South East now.

 

Now there's a rivalry - Charlton - Gillingham. That's Charlton's real grudge game next year, Gills fans really do detest Charlton for those buses they ran when Charlton were a PL club.

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Charlton = Rank, no mark club, with no real history and a bunch of fans who are too far down the evolutionary ladder to be fans of proper London clubs.... Fact

 

My Dad, and myself would dissagree with this.

 

Prat.

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They don't like us much do they? :D

 

 

http://www.charltonlife.com/forum/comments.php?DiscussionID=27435

 

And we have such good relations with Southampton... will certainly stoke it up a bit more!

 

 

 

Glad its the Saints, as their fans are tossers and have got a beauty now as Manager.

 

If you read this thread through you'll see that they are more angry at Pardew and what he did to their club (in their opinion) than at Saints or Saints fans. It was a bit like reading one of our threads as soon as someone mentions RL.

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Actually most of the Charlton fans I know like Saints and see us as a similar sort of club. There are a few idiots - yes, I have encountered them in pubs around Greenwich - but nothing worse than us. There was that nonsense at Maze Hill and one or two pub incidents in Soton City Centre but frankly I'd be amazed if the Saints/Charlton rivarly really exists outside of about 100 idiots on either side.

 

Same here - I know a few Addicts fans and they are all top blokes. That site (like Saintsweb) just seems to have a few gob****es.

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Noticed last season that Charlton, from day 1 had just about the worst ( numerically ) away support in the ccc. Considering they benefit from London transport links it just about says it all. We also saw more Aldershot supporters in our pub visit to Charlton last year. Did they really deserve to have a premiership team ??

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Charlton = Rank, no mark club, with no real history and a bunch of fans who are too far down the evolutionary ladder to be fans of proper London clubs.... Fact

 

To be fair that not true, they spent 20 odd years in the Div 1 in the 30s, 40s and 50s, and were runners up on one occasion. They've won the FA Cup once. Pretty similar history to ours I reckon.

 

In fact of all the other two SE London clubs they are the more successful

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I can't be bothered to read the views on the link in the OP because it doesn't matter what a few internet posters think of Pardew but I have to say I have a lot of time for Charlton. The club had major problems in the past but the fans rallied round and it pulled through. They are facing financial problems again and having been through what we have with Saints I have sympathy for any club with similar problems....with the one exception.

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reading the posts on the Charlton site is sobering. There again it is a football forum. How many listened to the sunderland fans about Kelvin? I will be cautious after reading that, but they are bitter and do mention his bad signings. The wages and fees of course are down to the team behind him not his doing.

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If you read this thread through you'll see that they are more angry at Pardew and what he did to their club (in their opinion) than at Saints or Saints fans. It was a bit like reading one of our threads as soon as someone mentions RL.

 

Spot on. Some managers don't work well at certain clubs at certain times - Redknapp at Saints for example - and therefore the fans of that club are not going to wish that manager well wherever he goes without neccessarily bearing any malice to the club itself or it's fans.

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Charlton = Rank, no mark club, with no real history and a bunch of fans who are too far down the evolutionary ladder to be fans of proper London clubs.... Fact

 

Of course they have a history, quite similar to ours I would have thought. Also I would hazard a guess that the socio-economic make up of the Charlton catchment arera is similar to ours.

 

Have a dig but statements like this make us look like dicks.

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Noticed last season that Charlton, from day 1 had just about the worst ( numerically ) away support in the ccc. Considering they benefit from London transport links it just about says it all. We also saw more Aldershot supporters in our pub visit to Charlton last year. Did they really deserve to have a premiership team ??

 

Yes - they rebuilt that club from scratch after suffering asset-stripping on a scale that only compares with Brighton. They filled the Valley regularly and regularly gave the big clubs bloody noses. We always found it offensive when people challenged our right to be in the PL - they were there on merit same as Saints were and have since been on a similar journey downwards as well. There was no sugar-daddy and I'd much rather have Charlton back up there than plastic like Fulham, Pompey, Wigan etc.

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Originally Posted by saint1977 viewpost.gif

Actually most of the Charlton fans I know like Saints and see us as a similar sort of club. There are a few idiots - yes, I have encountered them in pubs around Greenwich - but nothing worse than us. There was that nonsense at Maze Hill and one or two pub incidents in Soton City Centre but frankly I'd be amazed if the Saints/Charlton rivarly really exists outside of about 100 idiots on either side.

Same here - I know a few Addicts fans and they are all top blokes. That site (like Saintsweb) just seems to have a few gob****es.

 

I would agree with that. One thing they are all consistent about though is Pardew being a useless c***. Pardew did have a very bad spell there, just hope he has got it out of his system.

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I would agree with that. One thing they are all consistent about though is Pardew being a useless c***. Pardew did have a very bad spell there, just hope he has got it out of his system.

 

Hopefully it will be a repeat of the WGS scenario at Coventry and Pardew will be as determined as WGS was to repair his career. It is worrying but I trust the new owners. Charlton post-Curbishley was always going to be a tough gig and Dowie, Reed, Pardew and really Parkinson have all failed since. Bolton have never really got over Big Sam going.

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I would agree with that. One thing they are all consistent about though is Pardew being a useless c***. Pardew did have a very bad spell there, just hope he has got it out of his system.

If my memory serves me right he followed Dowie and Les Read. The club like us was in freefall and dint have a prayer when they got to tipping point.Such a similar striy to us in the last 3-4 years. I did expect them to perform so much better but wehen they sold Andy Reid they lost it.He was brilliant the season they played down here in the CCC, and ran the game, soon as he left they couldnt replace him

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We have had a lot of trouble with them in recent years, i have got no idea why it started but seem to remember incidents at charlton away and home here for a few seasons.

 

It started in the Parkside Tavern before Charlton's first game at St Mary's. They had a lot of dodgy fans down that day, some Combat 18 nutters and so forth. A couple of Saints fans got bottled.

 

Sadly some of them decided they would like to gain some sort of revenge, and so the meet at Maize Hill was arranged.

 

The incident at Maize Hill was very minor, however it had stupidly been put together on the internet. The Police had monitored that, looked on the CCTV and then made dawn raids to arrest the culprits. Their phones were confiscated and all evidence combined meant that some of the protagonists were put inside for between 2 and 5 years. They were also banned from all football in England for about 5 years.

 

Some of the Saints fans involved are now back at St Mary's and have season tickets.

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I dont agree. I suspect if you had gone on the Cov site after WGS joined us we would have the sametype of stuff and no doubt the Scottish fans were given the same thoughts abouts GB

 

I was just generally speaking. I know a few Charlton fans who fit that description very well.

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I dont agree. I suspect if you had gone on the Cov site after WGS joined us we would have the sametype of stuff and no doubt the Scottish fans were given the same thoughts abouts GB

Thats what would bother me.... I think the Scottish fans would have been given the same thoughts about G Burley from us and with good reason.... and now look what he has done there...

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All of this reminds me a little bit of the reaction from Sunderland fans when we signed Kelvin. The vitriol was unbelievable - and KD was indeed a bit of a liability in a season where he was obviously trying to recover his self-esteem, let alone his form. But now look where he is - our first signing of the season was, by miles, our player of last season.

 

Sometimes the talent and the situation just don't 'fit'. Charlton were and continue to be a club in freefall. The ONLY way they can hit bottom now is when (not if) they are forced into administration. Pardew appeared there as things were becoming desperate. No wonder it went pear-shaped

 

I even wonder how Pardew might have fared here had he been appointed during the duck-fiddling regime. Not even remotely as well, I bet, as he can at a club reborn, that seems determined to support an experienced football manager - and a club that is debt-free and setting its sights on a place two floors up.

 

Who knows - Pardew may be Burley Mark II, although I doubt he'd be as tactically befuddling. But Kelvin can certainly give Pardew chapter and verse on how to turn around any adverse fan reaction. If Pardew gives us a football team that - for the first time in years - is organised, fit and tough-minded, then he'd have silenced the 'dementers'. We've lacked these utterly basic qualities for so long that I think we'd be deliriously happy with just that (and a chance at the play-offs...).

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Dear oh dear Daren W......statements liek the one you made soimply make you look very, very foolish.

 

I do wonder why some Saints fans think we are such a big club. We punched above our weight for a long time but we do not have a gloried history.

 

In fact, we are just like Charlton in so many respects. A minority of idiots 'supporting', similar implosion following relegation and big debts.

 

To think, Charlton were held up as a club we should look up to after we were relegated and the SOuthampton modle was one they were trying to follow whilst in the Prem! How the mighty, or not so mighty!, have fallen.

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I, and my friend Paul Chuckle have always despised Charlton. We used to dislike Coventry when they were in the Prem, but realised the real hatred was towards those wan kers. Many reasons, but one of the best examples to justify our hatred was what happened at a service station a few years back. Arrogant, up themselves arseholes.

 

Like Bournemouth, wouldn't mind them suffering a bit more simply because of their fans attitudes.

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Let's hope we do the double over them next year then. I will be at both and would like nothing more than to see us do them over after seeing some of the comments on their site. Alan Pardew's red and white army! He obviously isn't held in high regard there and I bet he'd like nothing more than to beat them twice, and that will do me just fine.

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It started in the Parkside Tavern before Charlton's first game at St Mary's. They had a lot of dodgy fans down that day, some Combat 18 nutters and so forth. A couple of Saints fans got bottled.

 

Sadly some of them decided they would like to gain some sort of revenge, and so the meet at Maize Hill was arranged.

 

The incident at Maize Hill was very minor, however it had stupidly been put together on the internet. The Police had monitored that, looked on the CCTV and then made dawn raids to arrest the culprits. Their phones were confiscated and all evidence combined meant that some of the protagonists were put inside for between 2 and 5 years. They were also banned from all football in England for about 5 years.

 

Some of the Saints fans involved are now back at St Mary's and have season tickets.

 

Cheers, knew there was something

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Hopefully it will be a repeat of the WGS scenario at Coventry and Pardew will be as determined as WGS was to repair his career. It is worrying but I trust the new owners. Charlton post-Curbishley was always going to be a tough gig and Dowie, Reed, Pardew and really Parkinson have all failed since. Bolton have never really got over Big Sam going.

 

Nail on head - its only really the very top managers that seem able to achieve at all clubs - and even some of them dont manage it - combination of factors - IMHO WGS took over a pretty good squad that just gelled and peaked at teh right time - take Beatties 23 prem goals that season, and the pairing of Claus and Killer with Bridge and Mazzer - all just seemed to work out - and which of those did WGS bring in? I think with Charlton, for Pardue it just never worked out - no different from WGS at Coventry so lets hope he can do teh business and uncover a few few hidden gems - not going to be easy, but It about tiem a manager was given a decent proper contract as we have now... gives confidence and stability, now just got to deliver - the challenge for him should be that after 3 yaers we should be challenging for Prem promotion - a tough objective but achieveable.

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Dear oh dear Daren W......statements liek the one you made soimply make you look very, very foolish.

 

I do wonder why some Saints fans think we are such a big club. We punched above our weight for a long time but we do not have a gloried history.

 

In fact, we are just like Charlton in so many respects. A minority of idiots 'supporting', similar implosion following relegation and big debts.

 

To think, Charlton were held up as a club we should look up to after we were relegated and the SOuthampton modle was one they were trying to follow whilst in the Prem! How the mighty, or not so mighty!, have fallen.

 

Please excuse me during this Charlton Love in but as someone whose seen their fans in all their, I'll pass on the love...

 

The day I saw that **** smack a child in the head just whilst walking past was enough for me. The numerous other scraps and tussles just added fuel to that fire...

 

So Colinjb, Washsaint, take your comments and place them them where the sun doesn't shine. I don't like Charlton, think nothing of Charlton and wouldn't bat an eyelid if they folded tomorrow...

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So Colinjb, Washsaint, take your comments and place them them where the sun doesn't shine. I don't like Charlton, think nothing of Charlton and wouldn't bat an eyelid if they folded tomorrow...

 

Well, as I come from a family which has supported Charlton for at least 3 generations on my fathers side, only one person should be sticking his opinions where the sun doesn't shine. Feel free to wave to him next time you look in a mirror.

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But every club has committed those crimes, I would think even our great club has been graced with suppoerters who have smacked kids. Its disgusting what the minority of football fans up and down the country do.If someone was hoping we folded because of the actions of the very few you would remind them of exactly that.

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