Pardew's post match interview on Solent

[Nineteen Canteen]

Listened to this on the way home and before it came on I was feeling pretty happy with the result and the performance (with 1 or 2 exceptions) and that you could easily see the rebuild is taking shape but it will take a few more games yet to sort out those areas of weakness.

 

With that in mind after the interview I came to the conclusion I cannot remember the last time I listened to a Saints manager talk with so much openess and common sense and readily accept and identify the areas that need work and to be sending ' a pull your socks up message' to named individuals. Pardew came across as shrewd, focussed, determined and very experienced and comfortable with his coaching and rebuild.

 

It was great listening and refreshing and reassuring in equal measure and provided we all accept this season is the critical building blocks of a foundation to automatic promotion next sesaon then I think we are in for a very enjoyble few years full of promise IMO.

[saint_stevo]

what did he say?

[Dibden Purlieu Saint]

Listened to this on the way home and before it came on I was feeling pretty happy with the result and the performance (with 1 or 2 exceptions) and that you could easily see the rebuild is taking shape but it will take a few more games yet to sort out those areas of weakness.

 

With that in mind after the interview I came to the conclusion I cannot remember the last time I listened to a Saints manager talk with so much openess and common sense and readily accept and identify the areas that need work and to be sending ' a pull your socks up message' to named individuals. Pardew came across as shrewd, focussed, determined and very experienced and comfortable with his coaching and rebuild.

 

It was great listening and refreshing and reassuring in equal measure and provided we all accept this season is the critical building blocks of a foundation to automatic promotion next sesaon then I think we are in for a very enjoyble few years full of promise IMO.

 

I do agree, and he needs time. I still think there is inherently something wrong with this club at the moment, but I am sure that there is no-one in a better position than Pard to deal with it.

 

On a different note, I wonder who will be the first person to have a go at you just because it is you posting 19C?

[westmidlandsaint]

agreed 19C, i don't normally agree with what you say, although I don't tend to be "forum basher" but good post credit where credit's due.

[Nineteen Canteen]

I do agree, and he needs time. I still think there is inherently something wrong with this club at the moment, but I am sure that there is no-one in a better position than Pard to deal with it.

 

On a different note, I wonder who will be the first person to have a go at you just because it is you posting 19C?[/QUOTE]

 

No doubt it will be seen as an underhand dig at 'Boot Boy' whilst convieniently ignoring I thought Wotte was ok. I've always given my opinions as I honestly see things and without fear if they are popular or otherwise.

[Dibden Purlieu Saint]

I do agree, and he needs time. I still think there is inherently something wrong with this club at the moment, but I am sure that there is no-one in a better position than Pard to deal with it.

 

On a different note, I wonder who will be the first person to have a go at you just because it is you posting 19C?[/QUOTE]

 

No doubt it will be seen as an underhand dig at 'Boot Boy' whilst convieniently ignoring I thought Wotte was ok. I've always given my opinions as I honestly see things and without fear if they are popular or otherwise.

 

Indeed, and the forum would be a lot more boring without the vitriol generally aimed at you.

 

But anyway, he needs time, and god almighty we need some creativity.

[Glasgow_Saint]

Ap needs to quit making excuses and start delivering results. 6 players signed now and after 4 games we have -8 points. Doesn't matter what way you cut it - very very poor.

[Deppo]

Listened to this on the way home and before it came on I was feeling pretty happy with the result and the performance (with 1 or 2 exceptions) and that you could easily see the rebuild is taking shape but it will take a few more games yet to sort out those areas of weakness.

 

With that in mind after the interview I came to the conclusion I cannot remember the last time I listened to a Saints manager talk with so much openess and common sense and readily accept and identify the areas that need work and to be sending ' a pull your socks up message' to named individuals. Pardew came across as shrewd, focussed, determined and very experienced and comfortable with his coaching and rebuild.

 

It was great listening and refreshing and reassuring in equal measure and provided we all accept this season is the critical building blocks of a foundation to automatic promotion next sesaon then I think we are in for a very enjoyble few years full of promise IMO.

 

This is the key, for me. Too many people get carried away on this forum sometimes. Patience is a virtue.

[Bailey]

Pardew continues to impress me with what he says in his pre and post-match interviews. He always gives an honest and open account and it's very refreshing to hear.

[saint lard]

Pardew continues to impress me with what he says in his pre and post-match interviews. He always gives an honest and open account and it's very refreshing to hear.

 

His pre and post match interviews impress me also,unfortunately what happens on the pitch between the interviews is what is most concerning to me.

[brmbrm]

100% agree, which is the first time i can say that about your posts. For those who didn't hear, it was along the lnes of:

 

- they aren't fit enough

- they don't work hard enough and don't have the right "work ethic"

- getting organised, but still a bit to go

- don't dominate the game enough (looked good when B had the ball, didn't look good/creative when we had it)

- youngsters have a real opportunity but aren't really doing it (at last! no more "boysh"!)

 

few other things i am sure. Thought he spoke total sense and hgave mee a lot of confidence in him and the future.

[Bailey]

His pre and post match interviews impress me also,unfortunately what happens on the pitch between the interviews is what is most concerning to me.

 

Agreed, but it's going to take time, we'll get there in the end. We've just got to trust Pardew and be patient. He's had feck all time to work with the squad and he's slowly but surely building his own side. Keep the faith.

[PaulGilchrist_76]

Would rather have a winning manager who spouts rubbish!

[BadgerBadger]

Would rather have a winning manager who spouts rubbish!

 

That's a bit short sighted?

[John B]

Pardew continues to impress me with what he says in his pre and post-match interviews. He always gives an honest and open account and it's very refreshing to hear.

 

I would rather have a manager who can win matches than somebody who can talk well

[BadgerBadger]

I would rather have a manager who can win matches than somebody who can talk well

 

Do you not think that articulating the issues well shows an insite into where he needs to focus and this will lead to a winning formula.

[simondo]

i think what AP is doing in his interviews is pretty savvy...

He knows there is a lots wrong with the team and that huge improvements are required, but by not slagging the players off too much, but hinting they are below par, he both publicly tells them they need to improve and tell his boss he needs to buy some more better players.

At the same time he is telling us, the fans, that he can also see the bleeding obvious and he will do his best to improve the team but please be patient....

good strategy i think and he should be given time to get this bunch playing...

 

however like all of us, i am just too impatient and just want wins!!!!

COYR!!!!!

[TopGun]

I'm amazed at 19C putting together a non-confrontational post that makes sense. Credit where it is due!

[NickG]

I would rather have a manager who can win matches than somebody who can talk well

 

so do you want him sacked?

[beatlesaint]

100% agree, which is the first time i can say that about your posts. For those who didn't hear, it was along the lnes of:

 

- they aren't fit enough

- they don't work hard enough and don't have the right "work ethic"

- getting organised, but still a bit to go

- don't dominate the game enough (looked good when B had the ball, didn't look good/creative when we had it)

- youngsters have a real opportunity but aren't really doing it (at last! no more "boysh"!)

 

few other things i am sure. Thought he spoke total sense and hgave mee a lot of confidence in him and the future.

 

Cannot disagree with any of the points he made, especially the first and second.....Thompson, Lallana and James take note please.

[Leslie Charteris]

I think Pardew is looking at the bigger picture as well. He is rebuilding the whole infrastructure within the club and I am sure that, given time, we will see results on all fronts. There is no rush, we need 60+ points this season and then we can move forward with a squad of AP's choosing and, hopefully more good youngsters going through the academy.

 

It is frustrating not getting results like Lambert has at Norwich, but, I have been impressed with everything AP has had to say so far and, IMHO, anyone who is calling for Pardew's head already is a little premature, probably in other areas of their lives, too.

 

Good post, NC, it will be interesting to hear why people object to this and AP's record so far.

[PaulGilchrist_76]

That's a bit short sighted?

 

It's no use Pardew blaming individuals after the match. After all, he picked and prepared the team, didn't he?

 

Fair play in that he has given them a chance, but he should get rid of the usual losers that have cost us so many points. They are not nearly good enough in any league. Simple!

 

If he has the money, he should replace the entire team from last season, with the exception of Kelvin, not just half of it.

 

If he doesn't have the money, he could pick volunteers from the crowd, they really couldn't do any worse.

[lordswoodsaints]

So he talks a good game.

[BigDK]

Cant disagree, it is all true however I spoke to one of the players today who says Pardew comes across so arrogant that the players are getting a bit pi**ed off with him. Aparently he has brought in a load of rules around the training ground that are just ridiculous. Will be interesting to see if results will improve or wether Pardew will be out before then.

[S-Clarke]

Cant disagree, it is all true however I spoke to one of the players today who says Pardew comes across so arrogant that the players are getting a bit pi**ed off with him. Aparently he has brought in a load of rules around the training ground that are just ridiculous. Will be interesting to see if results will improve or wether Pardew will be out before then.

 

If that's true, then i don't give a **** if they're ****ed off. They've been pampered for too long, and it's about time someone has actually come in and set down his rules for once.

 

If they don't like them - go.

[Gravesend Saint]

If that's true, then i don't give a **** if they're ****ed off. They've been pampered for too long, and it's about time someone has actually come in and set down his rules for once.

 

If they don't like them - go.

 

Agreed. If the work ethic isn't there then the rules should be enforced even if some are stupid rules. It's probably a case of if they want to behave like spoilt children then that's how he'll treat them. Once the work ethic is there and the player demonstrate that they are serious and up for it then the regime will probably relax.

 

Results will only come with hard work, VERY hard work, and the soomer this is realised by everyone the better.

[Tamesaint]

Cant disagree, it is all true however I spoke to one of the players today who says Pardew comes across so arrogant that the players are getting a bit pi**ed off with him. Aparently he has brought in a load of rules around the training ground that are just ridiculous. Will be interesting to see if results will improve or wether Pardew will be out before then.

 

I would sincerely hope that the players who are getting a bit p***ed off go before Pardew does.

 

It was the players who got rid of Luggy when he was here. It has been the players who have got us relegated twice in the last 4 years. Good luck to Pardew if he is now kicking a** and is trying to sort things out.

 

As the OP said (good post by the way 19C) the future is bright if we have patience. Fortunately I believe that our new owners are also the sort of people who have patience in the management that they appoint.

[SFC Forever]

Is it possible that some of these ridiculous rules are a way of dividing the wheat from the chaff. We have some very very poor players and he has probably told some by his attitude who these players are. They have 2 choices. Buckle down or ship yourselves out if someone will have you.

[SOTONS EAST SIDE]

In that interview he hit the nail on the head, when he said. We have got no width, so we can't exploit the likes of Lambert & co, if certain players cant take people on. And get behind the oppositions defence! (our next area to strengthen)

 

 

Well pointed out,(wingers) alot of what has been already argued on this forum!

Edited 23 August, 2009 by SOTONS EAST SIDE

[Mr Saints]

He is the man for the job.

 

It's just so so so depressing being bottom of league 1 by a long way.

[WATERSIDEIFASAINT]

So it looks like we still have another 3 to 4 players to come in before transfer deadline day if the Poles leave.

 

I notice that Trotman got the no 12 shirt and 6 remains free.So expect another cb.I still reckon it will be Jaidi.

 

AP wants more pace and wing play to provide the chances for Lambert so I expect a player to come in.

 

If the Poles leave I would expect 2 new strikers hopefully 1 with pace.I wonder if there is any truth in Saga to Leicester and us enquiring about Gradel.Apparently we wanted Oakley back but were told to forget it!!

 

Intrigued by AP's comments that fans will better understand where we are heading in 3/4weeks.Is something we're not expecting about to happen.Couple of bigger name signings,Dof,loan signings or just the team gelling and starting to win some games!?

 

So how many signings do other people expect before tdd?

[dubai_phil]

Cant disagree, it is all true however I spoke to one of the players today who says Pardew comes across so arrogant that the players are getting a bit pi**ed off with him. Aparently he has brought in a load of rules around the training ground that are just ridiculous. Will be interesting to see if results will improve or wether Pardew will be out before then.

 

Yep, he probably doesn't let them train while wearing Ipods

They likely have to hang up their bling, and park their motors in the car park rather than drive to the edge of the training pitch

He's probably taken out the PS3's and the Schreiber furniture from the Players lounge and no doubt he has started getting them to do press ups and laps around the pitch when they make a mistake.

 

Which as most observers of the past 3 seasons would probably be able to tell any of us means that it hurts them as they are so unfit.

 

When you next talk to your player contact, tell him -"The fans said about effing time too" This is a sodding FOOTBALL CLUB, not effing Butlins

 

They're getting "pretty p*ssed off" with the changes - you know what? - better still, tell us his name so we can tell HIM what we think of their soft cushy life

[CB Fry]

Cant disagree, it is all true however I spoke to one of the players today who says Pardew comes across so arrogant that the players are getting a bit pi**ed off with him. Aparently he has brought in a load of rules around the training ground that are just ridiculous. Will be interesting to see if results will improve or wether Pardew will be out before then.

 

 

Heaven forbid the glittering megastars who have decided to bless our little town's football club with their presence are a "bit p**ed off". After all the fantastic work they did for us last season.

 

P**ed off? P*** off.

[WestSaint]

I also heard the Pardew interview and was impressed. He knows the shortcomings of the team and spoke about the large squad. He also mentioned that the fact that our two forwards who do not want to be hear was a current issue but would be unlikely to be resolved until the transfer window closed.

[samoakley]

Have to say AP is the man who will take us forward, as many have said its depressing to be bottom of league one i was expecting us to be on 0 points by the start of next month, but hey AP is starting to bring in some players and getting rid off the **** we have in the squad who have failed last season and part of this season, AP needs a natural winger and maybe another striker for when one of the polish lads go, good thing is we are a big club in league one and players will wana join us despite the postion where in, which will help us get the team to take us up the table, automatic promotion is now out of the question but playoffs are still achiveable and AP and any player with aimbiton will try and get there.

[Wes Tender]

Listened to this on the way home and before it came on I was feeling pretty happy with the result and the performance (with 1 or 2 exceptions) and that you could easily see the rebuild is taking shape but it will take a few more games yet to sort out those areas of weakness.

 

With that in mind after the interview I came to the conclusion I cannot remember the last time I listened to a Saints manager talk with so much openess and common sense and readily accept and identify the areas that need work and to be sending ' a pull your socks up message' to named individuals. Pardew came across as shrewd, focussed, determined and very experienced and comfortable with his coaching and rebuild.

 

It was great listening and refreshing and reassuring in equal measure and provided we all accept this season is the critical building blocks of a foundation to automatic promotion next sesaon then I think we are in for a very enjoyble few years full of promise IMO.

 

I don't disagree with what you say, except that the last manager to talk with so much openess and common sense was Pearson. Other than that, as I say, I do agree.

[John Boy Saint]

One of Pardew's qualities is that he takes no carp and is a hard taskmaster, I think his openess in including us in his opinions on the team and players is refreshing. A few knockers bring up the Charlton demise under him but they had years in the regime of Curbishly, and like us after WGS the players let down Luggy and ultimately us fans as a result of achieving their objective.

 

As I have said before if we are still up to our necks in it by Christmas through naff results that's the time to get very vocal against him.

[Leslie Charteris]

Cant disagree, it is all true however I spoke to one of the players today who says Pardew comes across so arrogant that the players are getting a bit pi**ed off with him. Aparently he has brought in a load of rules around the training ground that are just ridiculous. Will be interesting to see if results will improve or wether Pardew will be out before then.

 

This just makes me think even more that AP is the man for the job. If you (Mr. pi**ed of player) don't like it, put in a transfer request - you still have over a week to find a more accommodating club and AP can get someone in who'll play for the shirt and not for themselves.

[John Boy Saint]

This just makes me think even more that AP is the man for the job. If you (Mr. pi**ed of player) don't like it, put in a transfer request - you still have over a week to find a more accommodating club and AP can get someone in who'll play for the shirt and not for themselves.

 

Makes you laugh really in most jobs outside of Football when you are earning the kind of money footie players do the company owns your @r5e, footballers seem to gripe when they are asked for a return on the money they are paid.

[Nineteen Canteen]

I would rather have a manager who can win matches than somebody who can talk well

 

Do you expect us to win every game we play even ignoring the fact we are 6 weeks behind everyone else and Pardew has very quickly had to try and build a team from nothing and by his own admission he has spent more time on the phone than with the players.

 

The unrealistic expectations and kneejerk comments from some fans is mindless stupidity and surely a manager as erudite as Pardew is clear on what his objectives are and confident he can deliver. Anyone who attended the game today can see that we have improved but didn't have the imagination or ability to break Brentford as often as our build up play deserved. Pardew knows that, he's told us he know's that and has the ability to sort it if some idiots care to listen or attend games and see for themselves.

[Nineteen Canteen]

Do you not think that articulating the issues well shows an insite into where he needs to focus and this will lead to a winning formula.

 

Nail squarely on head and let's not forget what he inherited and the time he has had to address those problems. A bit like entering a marathon race with the other 23 managers from league one except they've all been given a 2 hour head start and Pardew has to pick up their discarded water bottles en route to find ways to freshen up his squad.

[Nineteen Canteen]

I don't disagree with what you say, except that the last manager to talk with so much openess and common sense was Pearson. Other than that, as I say, I do agree.

 

Sorry Wes I meant a long time, a very long time even better than some of the obtuse ramblings of one Gordon Strachan. I don't think Pearson could have spoken for that length of time without repeating himself many times and the infamous managerial (I don't know what to say anymore) phrase 'As I said'. You need to get over Nigel - he's moved on and so should you.....I have.

[Professor]

What AP did not say was that he had any more signings to come. There is need for more quality and more depth which AP recognises by saying he is trying to improve the way some of these players perform. If there are weaknesses it would be more encouraging to see them replaced, as has been done so far. The new signings are good, but still not enough of them and the squad could yet be weakened by Saga and Rasiak going. Current performance is relegation form and to change that I'd rather see more new and better players than an attempt to improve the ones we have.

[Nineteen Canteen]

What AP did not say was that he had any more signings to come. There is need for more quality and more depth which AP recognises by saying he is trying to improve the way some of these players perform. If there are weaknesses it would be more encouraging to see them replaced, as has been done so far. The new signings are good, but still not enough of them and the squad could yet be weakened by Saga and Rasiak going. Current performance is relegation form and to change that I'd rather see more new and better players than an attempt to improve the ones we have.

 

IMO I don't think the squad will be weakened by losing two of Poland's finest as they are overpaid, lazy misfits who probably unsettle Pardew's effort's to create a close knit unit. He clearly wants rid of them IMO but needs to trim the squad before any players come in which at this stage, looks unlikely at least until January. The man through no fault of his own has run out of time and at least he hasn't brought in players just because they are available and provide cover and clearly some detailed thought is going into his rebuilding process.

 

All good stuff but today I thought Mellis showed some nice touches and we looked far better down the left than the right (Lallana) first half until Pardew switched them late on. I think Mellis was unlucky to come off and Lallana very fortunate to stay on and I will be surprised if he is given many more chances to give the ball away so casually or continually run into dead ends without getting his head off the ball.

[um pahars]

the last manager to talk with so much openess and common sense was Pearson.

 

Have to agree 100% in that in Pardew I see/hear a similar response in respect of Pearson's honest assessments and endeavours. And IMHO I think that's what needed given our current situation.

 

Pardew has inherited a shambles of a squad, demoralised by last year's Revolutionary Coaching Set Up, so if he's reading them the riot act and upsetting a few stars then fair play to him.

[alpine_saint]

Impressed by what I am reading about AP. He seems to be the man for this job.

[polegategavin]

My opinion in our position is clearly down to a club that had been run down to extinction, to enable admin/ liquidation to occur.

 

AP has then arrived following a buy-out of a shell of a club, without anything in the way of a reasonable structure of coaching or scouting.

 

He has then had to start with 2 weeks to go to the start of the season find players to replace those that had either left or sold, and build a team, rather than a group of individuals.

 

Over the past 4 weeks he has gradually done this, despite having the worst scenarios as a club to try to sell to potential signings (who in their right mind would join a club that has been relegated 2 leagues - been days from oblivion and minus 10 points).

 

Over the next week or two we will see IMHO 2 to 4 more players joining either permanently or on loan, and with the first team squad we now have will become a strong squad for this season.

 

To everyone who is claiming that we are in another relegation scrap, I say wait and see where we are by the end of September, and more importantly look at our form at that stage, as I genuinely believe that by mid September will start winning most games as are team gels and our scouting network gives us more information about our next opponents and we can cater for our strengths and highlight the oppositions strenghts/ weaknesses.

 

Lets wait and see, but cripes after 4 matches why are we panicing, there has been so many examples of teams starting with our form, by the end of the season being top 2 or 3, and there is nothing to say that once we get some momentum we can find ourselves in an unstoppable run of form through this season.

 

Lets go and watch the team next week and the following weeks and just support the team and provide the twelfth man that will drive the team on to success.

[sotonjoe]

I too wasbuoyed by what AP said and referred to it in the match reaction thread before this one was started.

 

However, in the interest of balance, it should be stated that two Reading fans I spoke to when AP was appointed as our new manager said that he talks a very good game and can keep everyone on side, even when things are going pear shaped on the pitch around him.

 

I think the implication was that they got a bit tired of him saying the right things but failing to actually do anything about it on the pitch.

[SaintRobbie]

Listened to this on the way home and before it came on I was feeling pretty happy with the result and the performance (with 1 or 2 exceptions) and that you could easily see the rebuild is taking shape but it will take a few more games yet to sort out those areas of weakness.

 

With that in mind after the interview I came to the conclusion I cannot remember the last time I listened to a Saints manager talk with so much openess and common sense and readily accept and identify the areas that need work and to be sending ' a pull your socks up message' to named individuals. Pardew came across as shrewd, focussed, determined and very experienced and comfortable with his coaching and rebuild.

 

It was great listening and refreshing and reassuring in equal measure and provided we all accept this season is the critical building blocks of a foundation to automatic promotion next sesaon then I think we are in for a very enjoyble few years full of promise IMO.

 

Agreed 100%. He needs time. Nice to see you starting to acknowledge, albeit indirectly, the damage Lowe did and seeing some optimism in you is refreshing. Enjoy the ride 19, it's going to be better than the Lowe years once we ship out the last of Lowe's broken players.

[Wes Tender]

Sorry Wes I meant a long time, a very long time even better than some of the obtuse ramblings of one Gordon Strachan. I don't think Pearson could have spoken for that length of time without repeating himself many times and the infamous managerial (I don't know what to say anymore) phrase 'As I said'. You need to get over Nigel - he's moved on and so should you.....I have.

 

OK, your opinion is that because you have some gripe against Pearson, that you cannot accept that he is as erudite and as honest in his interviews as Pardew was after the match.

 

I attach a recorded interview for your benefit, to illustrate his capabilities and honesty.

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qOAiDnKNFOg

 

You obviously do not realise the irony of a couple of things. By asserting that there has not been a manager capable of speaking in such a way at a post match interview, you naturally invite comment about previous managers.

 

Then you go and put your foot in it by telling me that the person who I put forward as a manager equally capable of coming across well in a post match interview is not longer with us and that I ought to get over it.

 

Matt Le Tissier is also no longer with us. He's moved on and so should you. ....I have.

 

It is a pity when you start a thread like this where most agree with the thrust of it, including me, that when this one little matter is debated, you are not big enough to accept it because of some agenda you have against Pearson.