spyinthesky Posted 3 October, 2009 Share Posted 3 October, 2009 Anyone know any details? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 3 October, 2009 Share Posted 3 October, 2009 Welsh U15 800m champion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Painswick Saint Posted 3 October, 2009 Share Posted 3 October, 2009 Second year academy. I think he plays on the wing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 3 October, 2009 Share Posted 3 October, 2009 Second year academy. I think he plays on the wing So, no major confidence in our senior player's ability on the flanks so we turn to the nippers. Interesting.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
latter day saint Posted 3 October, 2009 Share Posted 3 October, 2009 according to todays match programme, he has just come back from playing 2 games for the Welsh under 19s along with fellow saint Ryan Doble. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yate Saint Posted 3 October, 2009 Share Posted 3 October, 2009 Welsh U15 800m champion Good stamina then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 4 October, 2009 Share Posted 4 October, 2009 So, no major confidence in our senior player's ability on the flanks so we turn to the nippers. Interesting.... manage to find a negative in promising young player getting his first place on the bench -well done! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fitzhugh Fella Posted 4 October, 2009 Share Posted 4 October, 2009 manage to find a negative in promising young player getting his first place on the bench -well done! An interesting addition to the bench nevertheless. He doesn't even have a squad number. Be interested in AP's rationale into including him into yesterday's sub's bench. He must rate him I guess. Anyone on here see him play? I don't think he has featured in our Reserves this season either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Block 5 Posted 4 October, 2009 Share Posted 4 October, 2009 An interesting addition to the bench nevertheless. He doesn't even have a squad number. Be interested in AP's rationale into including him into yesterday's sub's bench. He must rate him I guess. Anyone on here see him play? I don't think he has featured in our Reserves this season either. Squad number 36. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 4 October, 2009 Share Posted 4 October, 2009 manage to find a negative in promising young player getting his first place on the bench -well done! That was an observation, not me trying to be negative. Hopefully the lad is sh*t hot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRobbie Posted 4 October, 2009 Share Posted 4 October, 2009 An interesting addition to the bench nevertheless. He doesn't even have a squad number. Be interested in AP's rationale into including him into yesterday's sub's bench. He must rate him I guess. Anyone on here see him play? I don't think he has featured in our Reserves this season either. AP is certainly getting amongst his squad and experimenting. Impressed I have to say... I am very impressed with Pards so far. He has not panicked but observed and brought on his squad. He has secured some great players like Lambert and Hammond and will shortly have his first team decided upon. All within only a couple of months. Fair play to him, he must be confident of achieving this years target - to stay up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 4 October, 2009 Share Posted 4 October, 2009 I assumed that Mills was injured and we didn't have any other wingers to stick on the bench. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectisSaint Posted 4 October, 2009 Share Posted 4 October, 2009 An interesting addition to the bench nevertheless. He doesn't even have a squad number. Be interested in AP's rationale into including him into yesterday's sub's bench. He must rate him I guess. Anyone on here see him play? I don't think he has featured in our Reserves this season either. One of the very few advantages of having 7 subs (I can't think of any others) is that you can put nippers on the bench to get some experience of the "big" occassions without any pressure on them or the manager to actually play them. All part of the learning experience. I would take a guess that AP had no intention of playing the lad yesterday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Rover Posted 4 October, 2009 Share Posted 4 October, 2009 One of the very few advantages of having 7 subs (I can't think of any others) is that you can put nippers on the bench to get some experience of the "big" occassions without any pressure on them or the manager to actually play them. All part of the learning experience. I would take a guess that AP had no intention of playing the lad yesterday. Probably won a competition for having the best polished boots in the academy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 4 October, 2009 Share Posted 4 October, 2009 Saw him come on as a sub for the reserves against Salisbury a few weeks ago. Did ok, either played right side of midfield and came inside a lot or right side of central midfield, he was on the far side of the pitch, can't remember much - but much better than Poo-lis anyway. Unlikely he'd get on given the senior players ahead of him, but a useful experience. I'd like to see Doble get a look in as well, he'd have probably been more effective than Gillet in the hole for the last 10 minutes with us 4-1 ahead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fitzhugh Fella Posted 4 October, 2009 Share Posted 4 October, 2009 Squad number 36. Aha - the programme yesterday stopped at 35! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted 4 October, 2009 Share Posted 4 October, 2009 Allocated squad number 36 so he could be named on the bench yesterday. A good, young prospect who was no doubt included just to gain some matchday experience. One for the future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulwantsapint Posted 4 October, 2009 Share Posted 4 October, 2009 I like the idea that pards might give a bench spot to some kids just so that they can be around 1st team squad to gain experience Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krissyboy31 Posted 4 October, 2009 Share Posted 4 October, 2009 I like the idea that pards might give a bench spot to some kids just so that they can be around 1st team squad to gain experience I remember back in the day, they used to take one of the young players to away games as a non-playing member of the match-day squad. Remember Steve Baker getting in a tray of Whiskies for the likes of Channon, Ball and Keegan on the train home. No Idea how he managed to get served as he was only about 16 at the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John B Posted 4 October, 2009 Share Posted 4 October, 2009 I remember back in the day, they used to take one of the young players to away games as a non-playing member of the match-day squad. Remember Steve Baker getting in a tray of Whiskies for the likes of Channon, Ball and Keegan on the train home. No Idea how he managed to get served as he was only about 16 at the time. Perhaps he should have continued being a waiter as he was one of the worst players I have seen for Saints in Div 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krissyboy31 Posted 4 October, 2009 Share Posted 4 October, 2009 Perhaps he should have continued being a waiter as he was one of the worst players I have seen for Saints in Div 1 This is true but he'd never have lived long enough to make the first team if he had dropped the drinks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SamKimish Posted 4 October, 2009 Share Posted 4 October, 2009 When they changed it to 7 subs, a rule was brought in stating that the squad must contain "at least four players in the matchday squad that have been registered domestically, for a minimum of three seasons, prior to their 21st birthday" Straight from the Football League site. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy Gabriel's Halo Posted 4 October, 2009 Share Posted 4 October, 2009 Perhaps he should have continued being a waiter as he was one of the worst players I have seen for Saints in Div 1 Blimey, that's a bit harsh. OK he was no Keegan or Channon it's true but he was involved in that memorable goal of the century against Liverpool in 82 - 83 if memory serves. Besides, have you forgotten the likes of Terry Hurlock, Paul Moody and just about any other player signed by the god-awful Branfoot and others that have left an indelible blank on my memory.:o Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david in sweden Posted 5 October, 2009 Share Posted 5 October, 2009 So, no major confidence in our senior player's ability on the flanks so we turn to the nippers. Interesting.... ...although that is a problem on the left Colin, I think I read that the lad turned in a few good games for the junior side, so a bench place is some sort of reward-gesture. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lets B Avenue Posted 5 October, 2009 Share Posted 5 October, 2009 Blimey' date=' that's a bit harsh. OK he was no Keegan or Channon it's true but he was involved in that memorable goal of the century against Liverpool in 82 - 83 if memory serves. Besides, have you forgotten the likes of Terry Hurlock, Paul Moody and just about any other player signed by the god-awful Branfoot and others that have left an indelible blank on my memory.:o[/quote'] Steve Baker. Not Graham. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintmatt Posted 5 October, 2009 Share Posted 5 October, 2009 not heard much about this lad,but i rate ryan doble very highly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Dark Sotonic Mills Posted 5 October, 2009 Share Posted 5 October, 2009 One of the very few advantages of having 7 subs (I can't think of any others) is that you can put nippers on the bench to get some experience of the "big" occassions without any pressure on them or the manager to actually play them. All part of the learning experience. I would take a guess that AP had no intention of playing the lad yesterday. You don't think that increasing the squad size by adding two extra substitutes might have anything to do with the UEFA rules that a certain percentage of a team's matchday squad must be home-grown? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bungle Posted 5 October, 2009 Share Posted 5 October, 2009 One of the very few advantages of having 7 subs (I can't think of any others) is that you can put nippers on the bench to get some experience of the "big" occassions without any pressure on them or the manager to actually play them. All part of the learning experience. I would take a guess that AP had no intention of playing the lad yesterday. One of the worst things about having 7 subs is you have to find youth players to fill the gaps when they should be getting experience playing academy football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctoroncall Posted 5 October, 2009 Share Posted 5 October, 2009 One of the worst things about having 7 subs is you have to find youth players to fill the gaps when they should be getting experience playing academy football. I'd say they get more out of being a first teamer for a day than missing out on any football match, if indeed they play at the same time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scummer Posted 5 October, 2009 Share Posted 5 October, 2009 I was very confused, as I was sure they said we had Gary Breen on the bench. Thought we had a sneaky new signing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bungle Posted 5 October, 2009 Share Posted 5 October, 2009 I'd say they get more out of being a first teamer for a day than missing out on any football match, if indeed they play at the same time. They don't get to play though, do they. They get to sit on the bench because we have to name 7 subs. It impacts a lot more at clubs without big first team squads, where young players are now suffering because they have to fill numbers on the first team bench. It is total idiocy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scummer Posted 5 October, 2009 Share Posted 5 October, 2009 They get to sit on the bench because we have to name 7 subs. Do you have to name seven subs, or can you name up to seven substitutes? Bournemouth only had three players on the bench on Saturday. That was due to injuries, but I'm sure if they had to name seven they could have drafted a few youth teamers in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SFC Forever Posted 5 October, 2009 Share Posted 5 October, 2009 Good point Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy Gabriel's Halo Posted 5 October, 2009 Share Posted 5 October, 2009 Steve Baker. Not Graham. Thanks for the correction LBA - but please remind me who the fudge was Steve Baker ? He has obviously left an indelible blank on my memory - could you jog it for me ? Cheers.:confused: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krissyboy31 Posted 5 October, 2009 Share Posted 5 October, 2009 Thanks for the correction LBA - but please remind me who the fudge was Steve Baker ? He has obviously left an indelible blank on my memory - could you jog it for me ? Cheers.:confused: Yes well!!! This doesn't exactly help. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steve_Baker_(footballer_born_1961). Played mostly right-back in the eighties!! Understudy to Mick Mills and Ivan Golac mostly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy Gabriel's Halo Posted 5 October, 2009 Share Posted 5 October, 2009 Yes well!!! This doesn't exactly help. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steve_Baker_(footballer_born_1961). Played mostly right-back in the eighties!! Understudy to Mick Mills and Ivan Golac mostly. Thanks. Blowed if I can remember him though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Professor Posted 6 October, 2009 Share Posted 6 October, 2009 It could be that Pards was acclimatising Preen to the first team squad by having him on the bench on Saturday and that the next step could be to give him some time on the pitch during tonight's match with Torquay. Occasionally, young players do OK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ottery st mary Posted 6 October, 2009 Share Posted 6 October, 2009 Garyn could be another Wayne Rooney but better looking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eastcowzer Posted 6 October, 2009 Share Posted 6 October, 2009 Blimey' date=' that's a bit harsh. OK he was no Keegan or Channon it's true but he was involved in that memorable goal of the century against Liverpool in 82 - 83 if memory serves. Besides, have you forgotten the likes of Terry Hurlock, Paul Moody and just about any other player signed by the god-awful Branfoot and others that have left an indelible blank on my memory.:o[/quote'] Memory is fading, methinks Liverpool 82/83 the man in question was Graham Baker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Professor Posted 6 October, 2009 Share Posted 6 October, 2009 Garyn could be another Wayne Rooney but better looking. Sat behind Wayne Rooney at the cup game against Man U last season. Couldn't see much of the match because of Rooney's ears in the way. Preen's pic on the OS suggests the boy has more normal ears. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectisSaint Posted 6 October, 2009 Share Posted 6 October, 2009 Garyn could be another Wayne Rooney but better looking. Thats not saying much, is Preen really that ugly? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toadhall Saint Posted 6 October, 2009 Share Posted 6 October, 2009 An interesting addition to the bench nevertheless. He doesn't even have a squad number. Be interested in AP's rationale into including him into yesterday's sub's bench. He must rate him I guess. Anyone on here see him play? I don't think he has featured in our Reserves this season either. Nothing unusual in football - a lot of managers give the more promising youngsters an early experience of match days. I think Sir Alex did the same with Beckham all those years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy Gabriel's Halo Posted 6 October, 2009 Share Posted 6 October, 2009 Memory is fading, methinks Liverpool 82/83 the man in question was Graham Baker Yeah, thanks I know now. But hey I'm 56 now - I couldn't even tell you what I did yesterday.......!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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