Turkish Posted 28 July, 2010 Share Posted 28 July, 2010 "We might not secure them but we'll be pretty close - I'm pretty confident we can start the season with the squad we've got but we do want a couple more additions - maybe three." Were Pardews comments after last night, am i the only one absolutely ****ting it and totally panicing and over reacting to this quote that he is 'pretty confident' of starting the season with this squad or does he mean that key players are going to leave so we dont start the season with this squad? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skysoclear Posted 28 July, 2010 Share Posted 28 July, 2010 yes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liquidshokk Posted 28 July, 2010 Share Posted 28 July, 2010 I think he meant start the season ok with the squad we have.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 28 July, 2010 Share Posted 28 July, 2010 I dont know. I am fed up with his wishy-washy comments and lack of action. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWD Posted 28 July, 2010 Share Posted 28 July, 2010 I took it to mean that he is pretty confident the squad we have now is good enough to start to the season well No need to panic just yet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liquidshokk Posted 28 July, 2010 Share Posted 28 July, 2010 I took it to mean that he is pretty confident the squad we have now is good enough to start to the season well No need to panic just yet As above.... ;-) I think this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pancake Posted 28 July, 2010 Share Posted 28 July, 2010 I read it as: "I'm pretty confident we can (get a good) start (to) the season with the squad we've got" rather than: "I'm pretty confident (no-one will leave and) we can start the season with the squad we've got " Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Without a Halo Posted 28 July, 2010 Share Posted 28 July, 2010 My understanding was that he is fairly confident his current squad will be ok but he is looking to strengthen (maybe after Sept 1st when the premier lot have to announce their 25 man squads meaning some decent players could come avialable causing a trickle down effect)! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilchards Posted 28 July, 2010 Share Posted 28 July, 2010 I think he's saying 'without Hammond, Lallana, Fonte & Lambert who are maybe leaving to join the Premiership in the next week, the players I have coming in 'Stock, Carter, Bruno & Dean will give us an okay squad.' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintDonkey Posted 28 July, 2010 Share Posted 28 July, 2010 I'm not bricking it over losing players. I read AP's words as just being that he doesn't think the squad is strong enough and would like to bring in players - but does believe that the first 11 is strong enough to start the season. I don't think any one would argue with the idea that we have a strong starting 11 but need two or three players to strengthen the squad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWD Posted 28 July, 2010 Share Posted 28 July, 2010 I dont know. I am fed up with his wishy-washy comments and lack of action. Oh come on Alps that is a completely unfair comment. I very rarely get involved in the constant berating of you as I think you often make some good points, albeit sometimes I don't agree, but it's a forum and that is what we're here for - debate! but seriously that is just a ridiculous thing to say, "lack of action"? We had a two week training session in Switzerland? how is that doing nothing? I think the abuse you get on here is unfair at times, but with comments like this you just seem to encourage people Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dibden Purlieu Saint Posted 28 July, 2010 Share Posted 28 July, 2010 Hysterical woman alert. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkSFC Posted 28 July, 2010 Share Posted 28 July, 2010 Scare-mongerer!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadoldgit Posted 28 July, 2010 Share Posted 28 July, 2010 I'd rather we waited for he players that we want than sign people for the sake of it. Why sign player B now if you can get player A a month or so later? Pardew knows what he is doing and knows what he wants. So far his signings have been fine. Yes, it would have been nice to have the squad sorted before the start of the season, but I have been supporting the Saints since 1966 and it hasn't happened yet! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintDonkey Posted 28 July, 2010 Share Posted 28 July, 2010 I dont know. I am fed up with his wishy-washy comments and lack of action. What lack of action is this Alps? The most glaring hole in the side was at right back. Now AP has signed 2 right backs - plus brought in another left back so Harding can cover it as well if need be. That would be action. Next we've got a need for central midfield cover so we don't have to see Wotton on the pitch. Carter appears out of nowhere last night and looked decent. That would be action. We need a bit more competition up front - although we do have 2 of the leagues top scoring strikers - and we know there's been a bid for Tyson turned down. That would be action. The only position we've not seen any transfer action on is the right side of midfield. That doesn't mean there hasn't been any obviously, and maybe AP does think that youth players can cover it - from what I saw last night they can't. Personally I think we're in trouble if we don't get some right wing cover sorted - but we are just talking about cover as Puncheon is class in that position. Alps - you actually talk a lot of sense some of the time but when you spout blatent untruths it undermines that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Didcot Saint Posted 28 July, 2010 Share Posted 28 July, 2010 I think we will miss Papa and Antonio. When you consider goals and assists from these two last season i think we may struggle to break down 11man defences that seem to turn up at SMS. Otherwise happy with squad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 28 July, 2010 Author Share Posted 28 July, 2010 I read it as: "I'm pretty confident we can (get a good) start (to) the season with the squad we've got" rather than: "I'm pretty confident (no-one will leave and) we can start the season with the squad we've got " He said 'i pretty confident we can start the season with the squad we've got' i read this as not 100% confident. No RL, AL or JF last night, are they all off? AL has an injury, bit like Tyson who is being linked with us, maybe AL is going to Forest, they need a wide player with NT coming the other way?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintDonkey Posted 28 July, 2010 Share Posted 28 July, 2010 He said 'i pretty confident we can start the season with the squad we've got' i read this as not 100% confident. No RL, AL or JF last night, are they all off? AL has an injury, bit like Tyson who is being linked with us, maybe AL is going to Forest, they need a wide player with NT coming the other way?? No he didn't - well not exactly. He said "We're still hoping to bring one or two players in before we start. We might not secure them but we'll be pretty close - I'm pretty confident we can start the season with the squad we've got but we do want a couple more additions - maybe three" So the quote was entirely in the context of strengthening the squad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Godfather Posted 28 July, 2010 Share Posted 28 July, 2010 I don't think we'll lose any players unless we get really unrealistic high bids because clubs in the championship know we are not short of money (in fact have better resources than them) and we pay aswell they can, if any prem clubs come sniffing it will cost alot more than they think because we're not short of money again but they could turn a players head with high wages. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torrent Of Abuse Posted 28 July, 2010 Share Posted 28 July, 2010 "We might not secure them but we'll be pretty close - I'm pretty confident we can start the season with the squad we've got but we do want a couple more additions - maybe three." Were Pardews comments after last night, am i the only one absolutely ****ting it and totally panicing and over reacting to this quote that he is 'pretty confident' of starting the season with this squad or does he mean that key players are going to leave so we dont start the season with this squad? Yes. Yes you are. It seems pretty clear that he's saying that he's happy with the squad he's got and could start the season with it but he'd like three more signings. That said, he's not going to be forced to panic buy because we don't have to. These are not "wishy washy comments" and there is certainly not a lack of action. If anything they are words which should comfort us because he says he is a) confident in what he has and b) prepared to buy new blood too. The only problem with his statement is that it doesn't say things in a way which pleases 100% of all Saints fans, calming the nerves of even then most neurotic Saints fans - but then again, seeing what a wide range of neuroses are on show here, how could he please everyone? Time for us all to stop reading too much into every word in every sentence of every press release. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Bones Posted 28 July, 2010 Share Posted 28 July, 2010 I reckon we will bring in one or two players that will surprise us ( in a good way ) and give us the feel good factor back. Speaking of which - has a predictions thread started yet > Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MerceSaint28 Posted 28 July, 2010 Share Posted 28 July, 2010 I know Alpine has got a pretty rough deal lately but im inclined to agree with him. We are without question weaker than last year, especially offensively. As it stands, Lallana is out of the Plymouth game, Puncheon is 50/50 and we have lost Papa and Antonio, major panic stations in my eyes....... Add to this the fact that if Morgan were to get a long term injury we would be down to Wotton and we could be in deep deep trouble. Ill even throw in the lack of any speed in the squad, with 10 days to go until the season starts and its a pretty damning assesment. I know signings take time, you have to wait etc but seriosuly we are about 4 players short at least and the season is virtually upon us meaning no pre season. I am pretty dissapointed to be frank and surprised Pards has left it this long. One very concerned Saint.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kpturner Posted 28 July, 2010 Share Posted 28 July, 2010 Don't be a completely paranoid numpty. HTH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveBish Posted 28 July, 2010 Share Posted 28 July, 2010 I know Alpine has got a pretty rough deal lately but im inclined to agree with him. We are without question weaker than last year, especially offensively. As it stands, Lallana is out of the Plymouth game, Puncheon is 50/50 and we have lost Papa and Antonio, major panic stations in my eyes....... Add to this the fact that if Morgan were to get a long term injury we would be down to Wotton and we could be in deep deep trouble. Ill even throw in the lack of any speed in the squad, with 10 days to go until the season starts and its a pretty damning assesment. I know signings take time, you have to wait etc but seriosuly we are about 4 players short at least and the season is virtually upon us meaning no pre season. I am pretty dissapointed to be frank and surprised Pards has left it this long. One very concerned Saint.... I thought he also said that the first team players missing would play against Reading Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 28 July, 2010 Author Share Posted 28 July, 2010 Yes. Yes you are. It seems pretty clear that he's saying that he's happy with the squad he's got and could start the season with it but he'd like three more signings. That said, he's not going to be forced to panic buy because we don't have to. These are not "wishy washy comments" and there is certainly not a lack of action. If anything they are words which should comfort us because he says he is a) confident in what he has and b) prepared to buy new blood too. The only problem with his statement is that it doesn't say things in a way which pleases 100% of all Saints fans, calming the nerves of even then most neurotic Saints fans - but then again, seeing what a wide range of neuroses are on show here, how could he please everyone? Time for us all to stop reading too much into every word in every sentence of every press release. Why not just come out and say no one is leaving and we are looking to add to the squad then? Not 'i'm pretty confident we can start with what we already have? This implies that he thinks no one is leaving but not sure, but he'd like to add to it anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Fan CaM Posted 28 July, 2010 Share Posted 28 July, 2010 I am pretty dissapointed to be frank and surprised Pards has left it this long. One very concerned Saint.... How the hell do you know that AP has not identified all the targets he wants, but for a variety of contractual reasons NC can't do the deals? These types of comment are completely over-the-top and unfounded - wait until the season starts and if we're still lightweight then perhaps we can all have a coronary, but until then chill FFS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 28 July, 2010 Author Share Posted 28 July, 2010 I know signings take time, you have to wait etc but seriosuly we are about 4 players short at least and the season is virtually upon us meaning no pre season. I am pretty dissapointed to be frank and surprised Pards has left it this long. One very concerned Saint.... So you obviously didn't see his comment about not wanting to buy a player early and then a better one becomes available? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebel Posted 28 July, 2010 Share Posted 28 July, 2010 I don't think the first team is any weaker than last season - or should I say the starting 11 - and I can't see any of these players leaving either. But we do have less strength in depth without Waigo and Antonio in the squad. And as yet we haven't added that extra central midfield general we need. If rumours are to be believed we have tried - or looked at signing a number of players - Freddy Adu, Jeremie Aliadiere, Nicky Bailey, Neil Danns, Brian Stock, Michail Antonio, Albert Adomah, Simeon Jackson, Nathan Tyson. So far it seems the pull of the Championship or are refusal to be held to ransom over wages and transfer fees has put an end to most of these. Some of them still might come off though so you never know. We currently have Darren Carter on trial to fill a hole in central midfield and according to some have already signed Tyson. Waigo may also make a return according to others. We also have Essajas (?) on trial. And I expect there are one or two other players in the pipeline as well. I have no doubt that by the end of August we will have a stronger squad than last season! And then I think we'll top it off withsome very good loan players! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bucks Saint Posted 28 July, 2010 Share Posted 28 July, 2010 Why not just come out and say no one is leaving and we are looking to add to the squad then? Not 'i'm pretty confident we can start with what we already have? This implies that he thinks no one is leaving but not sure, but he'd like to add to it anyway. Why does he need to say no one is leaving? There is no reason to, there is no suggestion that this is a risk ! (apart from on here). If he did, it would convince others that there is "no smoke without fire" and give them a reason to worry after all Might as well say we are not closing Staplewood. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MerceSaint28 Posted 28 July, 2010 Share Posted 28 July, 2010 Hey i know what AP said and i appreciate it is tough to get players in. My point is that the season is 10 days away, we need to hit the ground running, currently we have only filled one need which is RB and lost all the pace and two important attacking players in Papa and Antonio. Now for a team that is supposed to be building, that is a worry. I also say to you, what about pre season?? players normally have families so they need to find a house, get settled, meet their team mates etc. I just think we are leaving things very late. It is unlikely we will get his desired 3 players in before the Reading game, so that means they would have had no practice games. I trust AP and NC however as the time frame shortens, i am starting to worry and certainly as it stands we are not a dead cert for the league in my eyes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kpturner Posted 28 July, 2010 Share Posted 28 July, 2010 Why not just come out and say no one is leaving and we are looking to add to the squad then? Not 'i'm pretty confident we can start with what we already have? This implies that he thinks no one is leaving but not sure, but he'd like to add to it anyway.So you want him to word his replies to the journo in a way that makes it crystal clear to the paranoid among us that nobody is leaving! There was absolutely nothing (nada, zilch, rien) in that piece that suggested that key players would be leaving, and there would be no reason for him to confirm that clearly if the question from journo did not warrant such a clarification. He was merely saying that we are close to a couple (maybe three) signings but if they don't come off before the start of the season he is still happy with what we have....that is it - end of! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scummer Posted 28 July, 2010 Share Posted 28 July, 2010 Nice thread Turkish, but you should have tried being even more hysterical. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jam Posted 28 July, 2010 Share Posted 28 July, 2010 Why not just come out and say no one is leaving and we are looking to add to the squad then? Not 'i'm pretty confident we can start with what we already have? This implies that he thinks no one is leaving but not sure, but he'd like to add to it anyway. No, this is not what he is implying, you're taking the quote out of context. He was talking about how he's 'hoping to bring in one or two players before we start', he then goes on to say that he's pretty confident we can start with the existing squad. In context he means that he wants the existing squad to be strengthened but if that doesn't happen then he's 'pretty confident' that the players we have now will be good enough to start the season with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torrent Of Abuse Posted 28 July, 2010 Share Posted 28 July, 2010 Why not just come out and say no one is leaving and we are looking to add to the squad then? Not 'i'm pretty confident we can start with what we already have? This implies that he thinks no one is leaving but not sure, but he'd like to add to it anyway. It implies no such thing. You're being a hysterical Hubbard. Stop. Stop now. If only for the children. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corsacar saint Posted 28 July, 2010 Share Posted 28 July, 2010 We have already signed the best two full backs in league1[i know Richardson is injured],and Butterfield is decent also,if that does not show that we are only after the best available players we can attract,what else can the club do. Some of the people on this site defy belief,I am sure AP and NC have the potential new signings totally under control. One might add Darren Carter would be a very good signing for this level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 28 July, 2010 Author Share Posted 28 July, 2010 It implies no such thing. You're being a hysterical Hubbard. Stop. Stop now. If only for the children. It does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kpturner Posted 28 July, 2010 Share Posted 28 July, 2010 It does.Lawks O'Lordy......I refuse to contribute to this thread anymore - it is an insult to my vastly superior intelligence ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miserableoldgit Posted 28 July, 2010 Share Posted 28 July, 2010 "We might not secure them but we'll be pretty close - I'm pretty confident we can start the season with the squad we've got but we do want a couple more additions - maybe three." Were Pardews comments after last night, am i the only one absolutely ****ting it and totally panicing and over reacting to this quote that he is 'pretty confident' of starting the season with this squad or does he mean that key players are going to leave so we dont start the season with this squad? I am not particularly having a go here, but this is ridiculous. Footballers and managers are forever giving interviews. They always say absolutely nothing. It is the same things, the same platitudes all of the time. When was the last time that you heard an interview with a player or a manager that you came away from more knowledgable than you were before hearing it?? Yet on this forum we anyalyse every word and nuance and turn it into a crisis. Chill out. Let things pan out. We either trust AP to do a good job or we don`t but it`s only on the pitch activities that will let us know whether we were right or wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david in sweden Posted 28 July, 2010 Share Posted 28 July, 2010 I don't think the first team is any weaker than last season - or should I say the starting 11 - and I can't see any of these players leaving either. But we do have less strength in depth without Waigo and Antonio in the squad. And as yet we haven't added that extra central midfield general we need. If rumours are to be believed we have tried - or looked at signing a number of players - Freddy Adu, Jeremie Aliadiere, Nicky Bailey, Neil Danns, Brian Stock, Michail Antonio, Albert Adomah, Simeon Jackson, Nathan Tyson. So far it seems the pull of the Championship or are refusal to be held to ransom over wages and transfer fees has put an end to most of these. Some of them still might come off though so you never know. We currently have Darren Carter on trial to fill a hole in central midfield and according to some have already signed Tyson. Waigo may also make a return according to others. We also have Essajas (?) on trial. And I expect there are one or two other players in the pipeline as well. I have no doubt that by the end of August we will have a stronger squad than last season! And then I think we'll top it off withsome very good loan players! AGREED ! Most of the "rumours " are only agent-spin or space-fillers on a slow day in the sports room of some tabloid. Of course we must have depth in the squad, and we can only buy upto 31 August..what happens if we have another Murty situation like last year, or a key player is injured ? It's only common sense to have good cover for injury, suspensions, and it promotes a bit of competition in the squad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 28 July, 2010 Author Share Posted 28 July, 2010 Lawks O'Lordy......I refuse to contribute to this thread anymore - it is an insult to my vastly superior intelligence ;-) No it isn't Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintjay77 Posted 28 July, 2010 Share Posted 28 July, 2010 I read it as Pards is not happy that NC has not publicly backed him so he is going to sell everyone in order to donate a load of cash to the skates. Think we should worry? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Landrew Posted 28 July, 2010 Share Posted 28 July, 2010 Here we go again. Yes, you are overreacting. Isn't it typical of a Saints fan to find the cloud in a sky full of silver linings..? Understandable, I suppose, with our recent history. but can we at least try to change our ways..? This is meant to be a new era. Can we try to stop reacting as if it was 5 years ago..? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liquidshokk Posted 28 July, 2010 Share Posted 28 July, 2010 Here we go again. Yes, you are overreacting. Isn't it typical of a Saints fan to find the cloud in a sky full of silver linings..? Understandable, I suppose, with our recent history. but can we at least try to change our ways..? This is meant to be a new era. Can we try to stop reacting as if it was 5 years ago..? Couldn't you have locked this after that well said comment? ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustMike Posted 28 July, 2010 Share Posted 28 July, 2010 I dont know. I am fed up with his wishy-washy comments and lack of action. oh FFS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjii Posted 28 July, 2010 Share Posted 28 July, 2010 He said 'i pretty confident we can start the season with the squad we've got' i read this as not 100% confident. No RL, AL or JF last night, are they all off? AL has an injury, bit like Tyson who is being linked with us, maybe AL is going to Forest, they need a wide player with NT coming the other way?? Newsflash: when speaking, people involved in the football industry say things that, when written down, would often be: misrepresentative; or nonsense. To be fair, y'know, at the end of the day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjii Posted 28 July, 2010 Share Posted 28 July, 2010 I am not particularly having a go here, but this is ridiculous. Footballers and managers are forever giving interviews. They always say absolutely nothing. It is the same things, the same platitudes all of the time. When was the last time that you heard an interview with a player or a manager that you came away from more knowledgable than you were before hearing it?? Yet on this forum we anyalyse every word and nuance and turn it into a crisis. Chill out. Let things pan out. We either trust AP to do a good job or we don`t but it`s only on the pitch activities that will let us know whether we were right or wrong. Exactly. This thread is an example of strange behaviour. That is all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Marco Posted 28 July, 2010 Share Posted 28 July, 2010 Maybe he means "secure them" as in secure new signings? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Under Weststand Posted 28 July, 2010 Share Posted 28 July, 2010 Talk about reading something into a harmless answer to a simple question? He is pretty happy to start the season with the squad he has now , but would like to bring in another 2/3 players (what manager wouldn't like to bring in 2/3 more better players) what is wrong with that? AP & NC have done a pretty nearly flawless job in the transfer market to date they have steadily improved the squad got some championship players in, also brought the best players from this division. They have said that they will not be rushed into transfer's just for the sake of it, when in another 4-weeks a whole crop of potentially better players will become available (you could read into that that they have all but tied up some impressive loans but can't reveal them yet) just a thought if your into reading between the lines??? . I fully expect another CM (maybe Carter) and at least 1 striker/winger to be added to the squad. but who knows its an exiting time & for once we go into season with some high expectation instead of full of dread for what lies ahead. Try and enjoy for a while! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liquidshokk Posted 28 July, 2010 Share Posted 28 July, 2010 I think the attention sought has been provided. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miserableoldgit Posted 28 July, 2010 Share Posted 28 July, 2010 Newsflash: when speaking, people involved in the football industry say things that, when written down, would often be: misrepresentative; or nonsense. To be fair, y'know, at the end of the day. Yeah, no, like you said....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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