Legod Third Coming Posted 5 February, 2011 Share Posted 5 February, 2011 Both goals, very, very poor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itchen_dan Posted 5 February, 2011 Share Posted 5 February, 2011 1st goal - Near post, awful positioning 2nd goal - 6 yard box, no commanding at all from Kelvin. Rooted to his line Have to agree its time for Bart to make the step up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legod Third Coming Posted 5 February, 2011 Author Share Posted 5 February, 2011 1st goal - Near post, awful positioning 2nd goal - 6 yard box, no commanding at all from Kelvin. Rooted to his line Have to agree its time for Bart to make the step up Should have been his. He is 6ft plus his arms - it must be his ball, must be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DT Posted 5 February, 2011 Share Posted 5 February, 2011 It's been time to drop this poor excuse for a keeper for seasons. He's going to bugger up the promotion bid, which is why I thought it most odd we didn't get someone who can dominate his six yard box etc in the transfer window. Davis is terrible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Alert Posted 5 February, 2011 Share Posted 5 February, 2011 Sorry Kelv, I have to agree here. very very poor for the first. Look at any keeper and anything that close to the body you throw out a leg and its an easy save. Second, the ball was dropping in the 6 yard box, criminal from a keeper to be on his line like that. Time for bart, but we need in a proper no 1 in summer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mitch01 Posted 5 February, 2011 Share Posted 5 February, 2011 Not blaming him for the second, Seaborne and Harding should deal with it. First was an absolute joke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 5 February, 2011 Share Posted 5 February, 2011 The first goal was horrendous. It should be put in the book ''How not to defend'' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjii Posted 5 February, 2011 Share Posted 5 February, 2011 Jesus Christ. First goal: Seaborne's error. Second goal: Harding's error. Utterly clueless comments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 5 February, 2011 Share Posted 5 February, 2011 Jesus Christ. First goal: Seaborne's error. Second goal: Harding's error. Utterly clueless comments. tbf the first goal was mainly down to seaborne, but he should have done better with that shot. Flapped a bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevy777_x Posted 5 February, 2011 Share Posted 5 February, 2011 Jesus Christ. First goal: Seaborne's error. Second goal: Harding's error. Utterly clueless comments. First Goal: A keeper should always cover his near post. Davis clearly didn't do that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeBenali Posted 5 February, 2011 Share Posted 5 February, 2011 Could have done better with the 1st, Harding to blame for the 2nd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davefoggy Posted 5 February, 2011 Share Posted 5 February, 2011 Agree with above. KD has been good for us but for whatever reason he doesn't look on his game at the mo. TIME FOR BART. I'd bring him on for 2nd half........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 5 February, 2011 Share Posted 5 February, 2011 TIME FOR BART. I'd bring him on for 2nd half........ That would be a silly thing to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legod Third Coming Posted 5 February, 2011 Author Share Posted 5 February, 2011 Jesus Christ. First goal: Seaborne's error. Second goal: Harding's error. Utterly clueless comments. First goal keeper beaten at his near post. Second, ball dropping from height in six yard box. Blind to his faults I'm afraid you are. I've been a huge supprter of his for years. He's been good for us. Today he's not good enough. When a player is out of form, drop him. End of. That's how you win a league. Sentimentality is worth nothing in the trophy cabinet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonnyboy Posted 5 February, 2011 Share Posted 5 February, 2011 Seabournes lack of pace exposed, poor positioning from Kelv and then Harding Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonnyboy Posted 5 February, 2011 Share Posted 5 February, 2011 Everyone concedes against Peterborough, we have to just score more than them ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 5 February, 2011 Share Posted 5 February, 2011 First goal keeper beaten at his near post. Second, ball dropping from height in six yard box. Blind to his faults I'm afraid you are. I've been a huge supprter of his for years. He's been good for us. Today he's not good enough. When a player is out of form, drop him. End of. That's how you win a league. Sentimentality is worth nothing in the trophy cabinet. I can see why people are blaming him for the first, he should not get beaten at his near post. Poor. but the 2nd? bit harsh. It wasn't anything to do with him, that was the players in front of him. Anyway, 2nd half coming up. Let's hope i can read lots of happy comments in 45mins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintJackoInHurworth Posted 5 February, 2011 Share Posted 5 February, 2011 Absolute rubbish - Kelvin has also done some great work for us in this game and the blame for the two goals must be mainly placed on the shoulders of Seaborne and Harding - especially Seabourne. It is not the first time this season that Seaborne's suspect defending has affected the performance of the rest of the defence as they attempt to compensate. He is getting better, but still too prone to mistakes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
up and away Posted 5 February, 2011 Share Posted 5 February, 2011 From a stroll in the park to clutching at straws in the matter of minutes. Seaborne started it, ably assisted by Kelvin. Will no one ever get dropped for such errors and the boot starts with you Kelvin. Richard Wright was not that great a keeper, it was all comparative. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legod Third Coming Posted 5 February, 2011 Author Share Posted 5 February, 2011 I can see why people are blaming him for the first, he should not get beaten at his near post. Poor. but the 2nd? bit harsh. It wasn't anything to do with him, that was the players in front of him. Anyway, 2nd half coming up. Let's hope i can read lots of happy comments in 45mins. Really? Why can't he come five yards off his line and catch the ball? Keepers all over the world can use the WHOLE box. All of it. Honest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neilza Posted 5 February, 2011 Share Posted 5 February, 2011 Well imo the second goal is as much seabournes fault as hardings. The reason it looks like Hardings fault is because he is shuffling across as Seabourne lost his man and Harding was trying to cover both men, admittedly he doesn's deal with the cross well but Seabourne isn't good enough to for a championship winning side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martyg1950 Posted 5 February, 2011 Share Posted 5 February, 2011 Both goals, very, very poor. Stupid, pointless thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simo Posted 5 February, 2011 Share Posted 5 February, 2011 I'm a big bart fan but Kelvin made 2 great saves today ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 5 February, 2011 Share Posted 5 February, 2011 Stupid, pointless thread. Lets take this opportunity instead to teach people that it is Seaborne and NOT Seabourne. There is no U in Seaborne. There, that is the important stuff out of the way! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 5 February, 2011 Share Posted 5 February, 2011 He did make a couple of cracking saves today it has to be said. But the first goal was poor. Other than that he wasn't at fault for any others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Windmill Arm 2 Posted 5 February, 2011 Share Posted 5 February, 2011 Ffs when a goal is scored it will always be caused by someones error, because the aim of the game is to stop the other team from scoring, what a load of clueless morons !!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintwiz Posted 5 February, 2011 Share Posted 5 February, 2011 Sky followers are out nom nom ^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deppo Posted 5 February, 2011 Share Posted 5 February, 2011 We didn't win. We need another scapegoat. Lets boo Davis. That will get us promoted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bridge Posted 5 February, 2011 Share Posted 5 February, 2011 If we want to get out of league one, we need to get in a very good loan keeper quick. Davis is well off form. Bart may need more time not sure. I hope Atkins sorts it out after this display. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Windmill Arm 2 Posted 5 February, 2011 Share Posted 5 February, 2011 If we want to get out of league one, we need to get in a very good loan keeper quick. Davis is well off form. Bart may need more time not sure. I hope Atkins sorts it out after this display. Sorry but you are talking bollo cks. If we took away all the times he has saved us, we wouldn't even be in the mix. Why do so many of our 'fans' seem hell bent on finding negatives, Saints don't need that type of 'support' . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aintforever Posted 5 February, 2011 Share Posted 5 February, 2011 1st goal looked like it got past him too easy, 2nd he should have come out an caught it. Made a couple of good saves but I would be tempted to play Bart, every time a cross comes in I sh!t myself, the defence look nervous and the opposition look like they know he's not gonna come and get it as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LostBoys Posted 5 February, 2011 Share Posted 5 February, 2011 You cannopt blame him for all the goals but he is way off form at the moment and it has already cost us enough points this season. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 5 February, 2011 Share Posted 5 February, 2011 We definitely need to review our goalkeeping options for next season. But dropping Kelvin for Bart, when Bart has played so little first team stuff in recent years and has never played in a run of games so critical to the club, is a big, big, gamble. I find it unfortunate that Kelvin's f**k ups today and against Tranmere didnt happen during December or early in the transfer window, when NA might have been more inclined to do something about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
croydonsaint Posted 5 February, 2011 Share Posted 5 February, 2011 can we nip this in the bud please. We are trying to get promotion out of this league. Its not easy, we will not win every game. We have a very good manager and a pretty good team. Why are we slagging off one of our players. Its been creeping in over the last few weeks or more. Kelvin is starting to be a target for a feeble minority. Stop it. He is a good goal keeper. Get off his back and f........ing support the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martyg1950 Posted 5 February, 2011 Share Posted 5 February, 2011 can we nip this in the bud please. We are trying to get promotion out of this league. Its not easy, we will not win every game. We have a very good manager and a pretty good team. Why are we slagging off one of our players. Its been creeping in over the last few weeks or more. Kelvin is starting to be a target for a feeble minority. Stop it. He is a good goal keeper. Get off his back and f........ing support the team. This ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevtherev Posted 5 February, 2011 Share Posted 5 February, 2011 Jesus Christ. First goal: Seaborne's error. Second goal: Harding's error. Utterly clueless comments. Seaborne not harding for the second goal, look at where he was stood, by fonte not his man. If he had been would have cleared the ball before it reached harding. Seaborne also gave the pen away, looked slow and out of position all game! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bridge Posted 5 February, 2011 Share Posted 5 February, 2011 I wish people would stop s*cking off Davis, wake up and see he needs to be replaced with someone who can do the job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trader Posted 5 February, 2011 Share Posted 5 February, 2011 If we want to get out of league one, we need to get in a very good loan keeper quick. Davis is well off form. Bart may need more time not sure. I hope Atkins sorts it out after this display. You must be an expert not knowing our manager's name 'n'all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rooney Posted 5 February, 2011 Share Posted 5 February, 2011 All last season and this we have said on this forum that Kevin will not dominate his box. At this crucial time of the season chickens are still coming home I am afraid. 5 dodgy goals in three games is a dropable offence unfortunately. Seabourne was poor too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crab Lungs Posted 5 February, 2011 Share Posted 5 February, 2011 Seabourne was f()cking atrocious this evening, a real liability. Kelv should have done better with the first goal, other than that... I have nothing else to say. Meh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperMikey Posted 5 February, 2011 Share Posted 5 February, 2011 This is a very difficult thing to decide on - there are time when Kelvin has been horrendous in goal but equally there are times when he has single-handedly won us points with some great saves. He still has the quality, but his old gremlin of inconsistency seems to be creeping back up on him. I think he's certainly good enough to be our No.1, but he does seem to have problems with confidence, as he makes one mistake and then it snowballs into making a whole ream of errors in a number of matches. My opinion: keep things how they are for the time being and re-evaluate in the summer. Kelvin is 34 now, there are dozens of goalies older than him in the football league, but maybe a player/coach role and taking a less active role in first-team duties would be better for next season. I have reservations about Bart being good enough for the NPC. He's good at this level, no doubting that, but there is a gulf in quality between L1 and the Championship. We should look at bringing in a younger, up and coming 'keeper like Joe Lewis, Alex Smithies or Jason Steele to secure our long-term future in goal, because that's a problem that needs solving sooner rather than later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forever a red and white Posted 5 February, 2011 Share Posted 5 February, 2011 he saves us more points than we really realise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintstr1 Posted 5 February, 2011 Share Posted 5 February, 2011 For Me the first goal was definatly down to KD's poor positioning and I think if they dont score that one we would have won at a canter. That goal definatly got them going . I think also we must now regret not pushing the boat out in the transfer window for CMS, Even at a couple of million he would have been a bargain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stepgar Posted 5 February, 2011 Share Posted 5 February, 2011 he saves us more points than we really realise. so would most keepers. The majority of keepers are all good shot stoppers but few can command the box and come for crosses. I am a goal keeper and trust me KD should have had the first one without a doubt. (although the real question should be how did he get to have to make a save in the first place - Seaborne!!) The second was on his 6yrd line........KD was rooted. Would you see Van dar sar stay on his line.....no at worst he would have gone to punch clear if he felt he was going to get battered. All in all I do think we should look to drop KD for Bart, if only to show KD that if he wants to remain Saints' No1, he will have to raise his game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ericb Posted 5 February, 2011 Share Posted 5 February, 2011 There's a lot of truth in the fact that Kelv' was at fault for the first two goals, but then Seaborne should not have been done so easily for the first either. Given the performance of Bart against Man U i think it's time to give him a go in the league. Personally i'm not convinced there's a massive difference in quality between the two, but i'd hope the competition would raise the game of both. Saying that today was always going to be high scoring and Peterborough is not an easy place to go and get any kind of result, and in hindsight it's losing the lead that hurts, not so much the result. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tractor_Saint Posted 5 February, 2011 Share Posted 5 February, 2011 Sadly I agree with most posters. He's done well for us over the seasons but his positioning and confidence recently is leaking the goals. Bart might not be the answer - they say a change is as good as a rest but I'm concerned that Bart may not cut it in the Championship - he'll do for now but we need to have better options.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winchester_Saint Posted 5 February, 2011 Share Posted 5 February, 2011 This Davis attack is mad! He may have made a few errors recently but he has saved us so many times over the years and is a model pro. Seaborne was absolutely terrible tonight, had a 2 yard start on Mackail-Smith and plodded back, gave a penalty away and misjudged the flight of the ball in the air all the time. Mackail-Smith tore him apart, getting in front and winning everything and made him look stupid. Guly was also very poor, his passing is very bad and kept giving them silly free-kicks. What a game though, thank goodness we have Chaplow in the middle! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadaSaint Posted 5 February, 2011 Share Posted 5 February, 2011 He would, but by the sounds of it they rejected all bids as keeping him and Lewis was their only chance of promotion. If they don't make it, they'll go, good player though and would be great with lambert. That was the thought that kept striking me - again and again. Just take out Barney and put CMS in and they would be bedlam. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forever a red and white Posted 5 February, 2011 Share Posted 5 February, 2011 Granted Davis is not perfect, but only a few months ago fans were claiming he was the best in the league. Yes his distribution is poor and at times frustrating but he has become the latest scapegoat. Davis isn't going anywhere and we would be better off getting behind him for the rest of the campaign, and if necessary change keeper at the end of the season. Every mistake is under the microscope in a massively important season and even more so as a keeper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deppo Posted 5 February, 2011 Share Posted 5 February, 2011 As well as dropping him, he should be burnt at the stake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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