Big John Posted 13 February, 2011 Share Posted 13 February, 2011 Not spotted this elsewhere, sorry if already posted. http://www.dailyecho.co.uk/news/8850348.Lawrie_Mac_gets_surprise_award_at_Saints_125th_anniversary_celebrations/ "Saints legendary manager Lawrie McMenemy was shocked and surprised when he was presented with a lifetime achievement award at a celebration of the club’s 125th anniversary last night. The surprise came at a gala dinner at Southampton’s De Vere Grand Harbour Hotel. The award was presented by Tommy Docherty, manager of the Manchester United side beaten by Saints in the 1976 FA Cup final" Well done big man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkSFC Posted 13 February, 2011 Share Posted 13 February, 2011 not saying he does not neccessarily deserve a lifetime award but WHO is this from? The Club? The FA? The LMA? I hope Im wrong and its from an official organisation rather than what seems like a bit of a PR stunt from his mates!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aintforever Posted 13 February, 2011 Share Posted 13 February, 2011 not saying he does not neccessarily deserve a lifetime award but WHO is this from? The Club? The FA? The LMA? I hope Im wrong and its from an official organisation rather than what seems like a bit of a PR stunt from his mates!!! The club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big John Posted 13 February, 2011 Author Share Posted 13 February, 2011 Are not all awards PR exercises for someone or some cause? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 13 February, 2011 Share Posted 13 February, 2011 The club. Kinda sh*ts on his theory of being forgotten about. Well deserved, by the way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big John Posted 13 February, 2011 Author Share Posted 13 February, 2011 Some of the things that he achieved dueing his tenure at saints he certainly did achieve things worthy of an award imho The whole reason that his name attracts so much debate is testimony to his impact on the football world, Kevin Keegan singing for one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkSFC Posted 13 February, 2011 Share Posted 13 February, 2011 The club. it doesnt say so in the article. Who was putting n the dinner then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfcuk fan Posted 13 February, 2011 Share Posted 13 February, 2011 Some of the things that he achieved dueing his tenure at saints he certainly did achieve things worthy of an award imho The whole reason that his name attracts so much debate is testimony to his impact on the football world, Kevin Keegan singing for one. Was it a karaoke night then ? . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sotonist Posted 13 February, 2011 Share Posted 13 February, 2011 is this not the thing lawrie and co set up independently of the proper channels and the players were told not to attend? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legod Third Coming Posted 13 February, 2011 Share Posted 13 February, 2011 Some of the things that he achieved dueing his tenure at saints he certainly did achieve things worthy of an award imho The whole reason that his name attracts so much debate is testimony to his impact on the football world, Kevin Keegan singing for one. This time, more than any other time, this time. We're gonna find a way, find a way to get away... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aintforever Posted 13 February, 2011 Share Posted 13 February, 2011 (edited) When you look back on what he achieved it was remarkable. Even though it was a different era money wise to win the cup, get us 2nd in the League and sign the European Football of the year. Bates built the club but Lawrie put it on the map. I always remember a mate from Manchester at Uni saying how when he was a kid the first season he really got into football was the 1983/4 one when we finished runners up, 3pts behind Liverpool. He said during his childhood he thought we were one of the giants of the game alongside liverpool, Man Utd, Arsenal etc. Fact is if you mention Southampton FC to any oldish football fan they will think of Keegan, Lawrie Mac, Le Tissier or Channon. Edited 13 February, 2011 by aintforever Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aintforever Posted 13 February, 2011 Share Posted 13 February, 2011 it doesnt say so in the article. Who was putting n the dinner then? Think it was the Ex-Saints charity, they are as much part of the club as anyone currently working for the company IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
solentstars Posted 13 February, 2011 Share Posted 13 February, 2011 Not spotted this elsewhere, sorry if already posted. http://www.dailyecho.co.uk/news/8850348.Lawrie_Mac_gets_surprise_award_at_Saints_125th_anniversary_celebrations/ "Saints legendary manager Lawrie McMenemy was shocked and surprised when he was presented with a lifetime achievement award at a celebration of the club’s 125th anniversary last night. The surprise came at a gala dinner at Southampton’s De Vere Grand Harbour Hotel. The award was presented by Tommy Docherty, manager of the Manchester United side beaten by Saints in the 1976 FA Cup final" Well done big man. great news for the legend well deserved Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big John Posted 13 February, 2011 Author Share Posted 13 February, 2011 /\ x 2 absolutely agree Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan The Flames Posted 13 February, 2011 Share Posted 13 February, 2011 Booooo didn't even get to double figures before the knockers came a knocking. Well done LM, one of the great building blocks of our beloved club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big John Posted 13 February, 2011 Author Share Posted 13 February, 2011 Keegan at the potter's heron is right up there with Trevor Francis, just ask any older footie fan, which english club did kk sign for from Hamburg whilst european footballer of the year? Lawrie Mac made that happenand it catapulted us into footballing folklore...oh and didn;t he also mastermind some jolly at wembley a few years ago? the '76 triumph is, for that matter, the reason that Saints will always get a mention when there is a giant killing being discussed, they even made a thing about it when pompey played wales. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deppo Posted 13 February, 2011 Share Posted 13 February, 2011 I can't work this out yet. Are we saying that Lawrie McMenemy was given this award by the club or that he was given this award by Lawrie McMenemy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big John Posted 13 February, 2011 Author Share Posted 13 February, 2011 doesn't matter deppo, he is worthy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thegaffer Posted 13 February, 2011 Share Posted 13 February, 2011 Who cares who gave it to him. He deserve the award.I can't work this out yet. Are we saying that Lawrie McMenemy was given this award by the club or that he was given this award by Lawrie McMenemy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 13 February, 2011 Share Posted 13 February, 2011 I dissagree, It does matter what authority gave him the award? Yes, he is unquestionably worthy but it says a lot if the club gave it as it would show that all of the media and ex player rhetoric would be utter tripe. The start of mending bridges? Or a missed opportunity? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatch Posted 13 February, 2011 Share Posted 13 February, 2011 Some of the things that he achieved dueing his tenure at saints he certainly did achieve things worthy of an award imho The whole reason that his name attracts so much debate is testimony to his impact on the football world, Kevin Keegan singing for one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weston Saint Posted 13 February, 2011 Share Posted 13 February, 2011 I have commented about Mr McMememy before with his unnecessary comments made in recent times. He is a bitter man when it comes to Saints Lowe and Cortese Chairmanship. However, putting that aside, his lifetime achievement award is well deserved. He managed us over a high point in our history and is entitles to bask in that glory. Well done big fella for what you did in that time and for your charity work. Just keep quiet, your time has passed with Saints. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thegaffer Posted 13 February, 2011 Share Posted 13 February, 2011 And what if Saints didnt give him the award?I dissagree, It does matter what authority gave him the award? Yes, he is unquestionably worthy but it says a lot if the club gave it as it would show that all of the media and ex player rhetoric would be utter tripe. The start of mending bridges? Or a missed opportunity? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big John Posted 13 February, 2011 Author Share Posted 13 February, 2011 i respect this award and belive that it is the fans award in this (touted as) special year for the club, past and present. how can you celebrate a clu existing for 125 years without recognising officially lm's contribution. legend, tonight is his. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thegaffer Posted 13 February, 2011 Share Posted 13 February, 2011 Well said Big Johni respect this award and belive that it is the fans award in this (touted as) special year for the club, past and present. how can you celebrate a clu existing for 125 years without recognising officially lm's contribution. legend, tonight is his. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 13 February, 2011 Share Posted 13 February, 2011 And what if Saints didnt give him the award? Then it shows a rift is still present. A different collective giving the award is nice, as I said before he deserves the plaudit. Yet it would not carry the same weight or peaceful intent which I for one am wishing for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big John Posted 13 February, 2011 Author Share Posted 13 February, 2011 if the voting panel's remit was to name the one living person who has most contributed to the clubs existence then they got it right. anyone who disagrees does not understand the question. he is still the Gaffer to many of us. If the current regime want to build a bridge then they could do worse than naming a stand after him and tucking a lifetime season ticket in his back pocket as he arrives to cut the ribbon imo. do they really want to build a bridge, that is the question? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 14 February, 2011 Share Posted 14 February, 2011 don't think so Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draino76 Posted 14 February, 2011 Share Posted 14 February, 2011 What the hell is this posting ABOVE a quote you are replying to lark? (Mods please move this post to the pedants thread if required.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big John Posted 14 February, 2011 Author Share Posted 14 February, 2011 It's for when you are really angry, it implies that your reply is more important than the remark which one is quoting. i have only ever seen it once before on this site, it's quite tame really. What the hell is this posting ABOVE a quote you are replying to lark? (Mods please move this post to the pedants thread if required.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan The Flames Posted 14 February, 2011 Share Posted 14 February, 2011 I have commented about Mr McMememy before with his unnecessary comments made in recent times. He is a bitter man when it comes to Saints Lowe and Cortese Chairmanship. However, putting that aside, his lifetime achievement award is well deserved. He managed us over a high point in our history and is entitles to bask in that glory. Well done big fella for what you did in that time and for your charity work. Just keep quiet, your time has passed with Saints. It's a shame you couldn't put it to one side. Wether you like it or not LM is entitled to voice his opinion and because he is slightly more famous than you his opinion is more likely to be reported. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisobee Posted 14 February, 2011 Share Posted 14 February, 2011 Was it a karaoke night then ? . If he was to blame for that then he should be shot !! Absolutely deserved, there are a few who seem to want to shoot him down. I can only assume they are either not Saints fans or have absolutely no knowledge of what he did for this club ( which probably amounts to the same thing lol !). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisobee Posted 14 February, 2011 Share Posted 14 February, 2011 It's a shame you couldn't put it to one side. Wether you like it or not LM is entitled to voice his opinion and because he is slightly more famous than you his opinion is more likely to be reported. And there my point is proven. I agree with you Fan The Flames. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubai_phil Posted 14 February, 2011 Share Posted 14 February, 2011 Lawrie has given (almost) a lifetime of service to Saints and it is right to be recognised. He deserves recognition of his achievements which he recived in no small part with his honours from The Queen The award at the event was a nice moment for those there to show there appreciation of him, and nice that it was presented by The Doc. But it WOULD have been nice to know who actually presented it. Was it The Echo? for example where it would have some consituency/gravitas. Simply because at the moment (in the absence of facts again) I think I will today award all TSW members with a Lifetime Achievement Award for putting up with the ups and downs of our club the past 40+ odd years. Or maybe I will award myself a Lifetime Achievement recognition for my services to Golf. An award is deserved, but who paid for the "trophy"? At the moment it seems a tad odd to not know where it came from. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dune Posted 14 February, 2011 Share Posted 14 February, 2011 No snide remarks yet from Manji. I'm amazed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fitzhugh Fella Posted 14 February, 2011 Share Posted 14 February, 2011 No snide remarks yet from Manji. I'm amazed. He's having a lie-in - all that *****ing is hard work Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank's cousin Posted 14 February, 2011 Share Posted 14 February, 2011 An award that was thoroughly deserved for all The big Man has done for the club and the service he has given. Hopefully, maybe this may draw a line under the silliness of the media digs - I KNOW LM is just expressing an entitled view, and that he has Saints wellbeing in heart and on sleave. I KNOW that not everyone is happy with some of the approaches being taken, and I am sure that its difficult for the them all to see eye to eye - sometimes its just the way personalities and egos can clash...and they are pretty big on both sides... but given that the public clashes have really been about relatively trivial things, cant it just be put to bed and the two sides agree to disagree? All parties want what is best for saints, they just have different ways of going about it. I dont believe there is anything irrepairable over the long term - but maybe its best that for the time being, at what is a very crucial stage, everyone forgets about the disagreements and gets behind nige and the lads - surely more important than any of the ego clashing nonsense of the past few months? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norwaysaint Posted 14 February, 2011 Share Posted 14 February, 2011 No snide remarks yet from Manji. I'm amazed. The irony is most people would consider yours a snide remark there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daren W Posted 14 February, 2011 Share Posted 14 February, 2011 I have commented about Mr McMememy before with his unnecessary comments made in recent times. He is a bitter man when it comes to Saints Lowe and Cortese Chairmanship. However, putting that aside, his lifetime achievement award is well deserved. He managed us over a high point in our history and is entitles to bask in that glory. Well done big fella for what you did in that time and for your charity work. Just keep quiet, your time has passed with Saints. Hold on a second here. are we now saying that Lawrie isn't entitled to say what he wants? There does seem to be a slightly fascist slant to all of this, you may not agree with what he says but he has every right to say it. If someone told you to keep your opinions to yourself, how would you react?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weston Saint Posted 14 February, 2011 Share Posted 14 February, 2011 if the voting panel's remit was to name the one living person who has most contributed to the clubs existence then they got it right. anyone who disagrees does not understand the question. he is still the Gaffer to many of us. If the current regime want to build a bridge then they could do worse than naming a stand after him and tucking a lifetime season ticket in his back pocket as he arrives to cut the ribbon imo. do they really want to build a bridge, that is the question?Does he? Lowe offered him a position as an olive branch and he refused. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fitzhugh Fella Posted 14 February, 2011 Share Posted 14 February, 2011 Does he? Lowe offered him a position as an olive branch and he refused. An olive branch with thorns on I believe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weston Saint Posted 14 February, 2011 Share Posted 14 February, 2011 An olive branch with thorns on I believe.Expand? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fitzhugh Fella Posted 14 February, 2011 Share Posted 14 February, 2011 Expand? I assume you are referring to the two Cardiff cup final tickets that Lowe eventually "found" for LM. I was told they were in among the fans and not with the official Saints party. LM took offence and refused to go. Not arguing the rights and wrongs of Lawrie's actions but it is not quite right to describe Lowe's gesture as an olive branch. It was a calculated snub or that how it was taken. My source? LM himself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beatlesaint Posted 14 February, 2011 Share Posted 14 February, 2011 I assume you are referring to the two Cardiff cup final tickets that Lowe eventually "found" for LM. I was told they were in among the fans and not with the official Saints party. LM took offence and refused to go. Not arguing the rights and wrongs of Lawrie's actions but it is not quite right to describe Lowe's gesture as an olive branch. It was a calculated snub or that how it was taken. My source? LM himself. I assumed Weston was referring to the "olive branch" of a continuing role as some sort of ambassador or meet and greet on matchdays role similar to the one he carried out under Wilde. Whilst people continually slag Lawrie off and suggest he is money orientated its rather interesting that his dis-like for Lowe was the reason he turned the offer down when there was still the opportunity to be paid for his "job" ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisobee Posted 14 February, 2011 Share Posted 14 February, 2011 I assumed Weston was referring to the "olive branch" of a continuing role as some sort of ambassador or meet and greet on matchdays role similar to the one he carried out under Wilde. Whilst people continually slag Lawrie off and suggest he is money orientated its rather interesting that his dis-like for Lowe was the reason he turned the offer down when there was still the opportunity to be paid for his "job" ! It is actually quite bizarre that Lawrie has been slated in the past for getting paid....... for working lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pancake Posted 14 February, 2011 Share Posted 14 February, 2011 not saying he does not neccessarily deserve a lifetime award but WHO is this from? The Club? The FA? The LMA? The club. Nope... it doesnt say so in the article. Who was putting n the dinner then? LM, MLT, FB and MO is this not the thing lawrie and co set up independently of the proper channels and the players were told not to attend? Yup Think it was the Ex-Saints charity, they are as much part of the club as anyone currently working for the company IMO. Nope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pancake Posted 14 February, 2011 Share Posted 14 February, 2011 It is actually quite bizarre that Lawrie has been slated in the past for getting paid....... for working lol Im sure you know this, but its not the fact he was being paid for working, it was amount he was being paid for the role he was performing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisobee Posted 14 February, 2011 Share Posted 14 February, 2011 Im sure you know this, but its not the fact he was being paid for working, it was amount he was being paid for the role he was performing. Who decided his salary ? He sure didn't pay himself ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cabrone Posted 14 February, 2011 Share Posted 14 February, 2011 I assume you are referring to the two Cardiff cup final tickets that Lowe eventually "found" for LM. I was told they were in among the fans and not with the official Saints party. LM took offence and refused to go. Not arguing the rights and wrongs of Lawrie's actions but it is not quite right to describe Lowe's gesture as an olive branch. It was a calculated snub or that how it was taken. My source? LM himself. Another glorious example of lizard L***'s public relations style. LM was our greatest ever manager and I won't ever forget his time at the helm. Thoroughly deserved award. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wopper Posted 14 February, 2011 Share Posted 14 February, 2011 Does he? Lowe offered him a position as an olive branch and he refused. **** Rupert Lowe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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