Because Solent seemed obsessed with recalling Puncheon last night...

[The9]

...but didn't seem to know the loan rules, here they are :

 

http://www.football-league.co.uk/regulations/20100801/section-6-players_2293633_2125731#50

 

Specifically the part pertaining to Puncheon's loan is in bold (as it's a half season Standard loan : http://www.saintsfc.co.uk/page/NewsDetail/0,,10280~2281437,00.html).

 

We CANNOT recall Puncheon, as the only provision for a recall clause for a loan which lasts until the end of the season is to recall a player in the January Transfer Window - and we didn't even loan him until late January !

 

50.3 There shall be three categories of temporary loan transfers allowed - Standard Loans, Emergency Loans and Youth Loans. The following restrictions shall apply to each type of loan:

 

50.3.1 A maximum of 5 loan Players (Standard, Emergency or Youth) can be named in the Players listed on a team sheet for any individual match played under the auspices of The League. This figure shall include any additional loan of a goalkeeper approved by the Executive under the provisions of Regulation 52.

 

50.3.2 Up to 4 loan Players (Standard, Emergency or Youth) may join one Club from another Club in any Season.An additional Youth Loan Player may be added to this figure.

 

51. STANDARD, EMERGENCY AND YOUTH LOANS

 

51.1 Standard Loans.Subject to the provisions of Regulation 50.3, Standard Loan transfers shall only be approved in accordance with following provisions:

 

51.1.1 Subject to the proviso that the duration of a Standard Loan must be the time between two Transfer Windows, Standard Loans can be for half a Season or a full Season.Any recall clause requiring the early termination of a Standard Loan can only be included in a full Season Standard Loan and this can only be activated during the second (January) Transfer Window.

 

51.1.2 Notwithstanding the provisions of Regulation 51.1.1, a Standard Loan of a goalkeeper (but not otherwise) may be subject to a recall clause exercisable at any time.Any recall may only be implemented in extenuating circumstances and with the consent of the Executive, such extenuating circumstances to be determined in the Executive's absolute discretion.A goalkeeper shall not be permitted to resume any Standard Loan following the exercise of a recall.

 

51.1.3 A Club can have a maximum of 4 Players under 23 and a further 4 Players over 23 on a Standard Loan during any Season.The deadline for determining a Player's age in this respect shall be 30 June prior to the Season in which the Standard Loan is intended to take place.

 

51.1.4 No more than 2 Players who are over 23 may join one Club from another Club on a Standard Loan in any Season.

 

51.1.5 Standard Loans which subsequently become permanent transfers shall not count against a Club's quota of such Standard Loans for that Season.

 

51.2 Emergency and Youth Loans. Subject to the provisions of Regulation 50.3, Emergency Loan and Youth Loan transfers shall only be approved in accordance with the following provisions:

 

51.2.1 Emergency and Youth Loans are permitted both during the Transfer Windows and, subject to the provisions of Regulation 51.2.2, also during a Closed Period.

 

51.2.2 Notwithstanding the provisions of Regulation 51.2.1, a Player cannot be registered on an Emergency Loan or Youth Loan:

 

(a) during the period of seven days after the end of a Transfer Window;

 

(b) in the first half of the Season, after 5pm on the fourth Thursday in November; and

 

© in the second half of the Season, after 5pm on the fourth Thursday in March

 

unless in accordance with the provisions of Regulation 52.

 

51.2.3 Only:

 

(a) Scholars who are in the second or third (if that option is exercised) year of their Scholarship Agreement; or

 

(b) Contract Players aged 20 or under on 1st July immediately preceding the Season in question,

 

may be registered on a Youth Loan.

 

51.2.4 It shall be a condition of any Youth Loan involving a Scholar, or a Contract Player to whom Youth Rule 99 applies, that for the duration of the period of the Youth Loan the Player continues to fully comply with the programme of education in place for that Player.

 

51.2.5 A Player registered on a Youth Loan may, provided this is agreed between the two clubs and the Player, continue to train with and/or play for his loaning Club (or club) in any match other than matches played as part of the Premier League Competition, League Competition, League Cup, Football Association Challenge Cup or Football League Trophy (First Team Matches).Participation by the Player in First Team Matches for the loanee Club shall take precedence.

 

51.2.6 Any days on which the Player participates in a reserve team match and/or attends any training sessions for the loaning Club (or club)) shall still count towards the period of the Youth Loan.

 

51.2.7 Except for the specific circumstances provided for in Regulations 51.2.9, 51.2.10 and 52, the minimum duration of any Emergency Loan and Youth Loan shall be 28 days and the maximum duration of an Emergency Loan is 93 days.The loan period is inclusive of the starting date and the finishing date.Youth Loans may not extend beyond the date of the Player's 21st birthday.

 

51.2.8 Emergency Loans and Youth Loans may contain a break clause but only where that break clause is exercisable after the expiry of the initial 28 day period of the loan.

 

51.2.9 Emergency Loans involving goalkeepers (but not otherwise) may be subject to a recall clause within the first 28 days.Any recall may only be implemented in extenuating circumstances and with the consent of the Executive, such extenuating circumstances to be determined in the Executive's absolute discretion.

 

51.2.10 The Executive shall have discretion to extend the maximum duration of 93 days for an Emergency Loan in extenuating circumstances, such circumstances to be determined in the Executive's absolute discretion.

 

51.2.11 Subject to Regulation 51.2.12, where the Emergency Loan or Youth Loan of a Player expires (and is not renewed simultaneously) any subsequent Emergency Loan or Youth Loan of that Player to the same Club will be subject to a minimum duration of 28 days as set out in Regulation 51.2.7.

 

51.2.12 The cumulative total number of days of all Emergency Loans of one Player to the same Club may not exceed 93 days (unless extended by the Executive in accordance with the provisions of Regulation 51.2.10).

 

[alpine_saint]

Seriously, who cares ?

 

NA made it perfectly clear he wouldnt walk across the road and p*ss on Puncheon if he were on fire. End of.

[ribbo]

solent supposedly became obsessed because they got flooded with texts + sms's from listeners asking.

[fish fingers]

Seriously, who cares ?

 

NA made it perfectly clear he wouldnt walk across the road and p*ss on Puncheon if he were on fire. End of.

 

I care because last night all Solent banged on about was Puncheon and it became bloody irritating. Much like yourself.

[alpine_saint]

solent supposedly became obsessed because they got flooded with texts + sms's from listeners asking.

 

and I get accused of being knee-jerk...

[dronskisaint]

...but didn't seem to know the loan rules, here they are :

 

http://www.football-league.co.uk/regulations/20100801/section-6-players_2293633_2125731#50

 

Specifically the part pertaining to Puncheon's loan is in bold (as it's a half season Standard loan : http://www.saintsfc.co.uk/page/NewsDetail/0,,10280~2281437,00.html).

 

We CANNOT recall Puncheon, as the only provision for a recall clause for a loan which lasts until the end of the season is to recall a player in the January Transfer Window - and we didn't even loan him until late January !

 

50.3 There shall be three categories of temporary loan transfers allowed - Standard Loans, Emergency Loans and Youth Loans. The following restrictions shall apply to each type of loan:

 

50.3.1 A maximum of 5 loan Players (Standard, Emergency or Youth) can be named in the Players listed on a team sheet for any individual match played under the auspices of The League. This figure shall include any additional loan of a goalkeeper approved by the Executive under the provisions of Regulation 52.

 

50.3.2 Up to 4 loan Players (Standard, Emergency or Youth) may join one Club from another Club in any Season.An additional Youth Loan Player may be added to this figure.

 

51. STANDARD, EMERGENCY AND YOUTH LOANS

 

51.1 Standard Loans.Subject to the provisions of Regulation 50.3, Standard Loan transfers shall only be approved in accordance with following provisions:

 

51.1.1 Subject to the proviso that the duration of a Standard Loan must be the time between two Transfer Windows, Standard Loans can be for half a Season or a full Season.Any recall clause requiring the early termination of a Standard Loan can only be included in a full Season Standard Loan and this can only be activated during the second (January) Transfer Window.

 

51.1.2 Notwithstanding the provisions of Regulation 51.1.1, a Standard Loan of a goalkeeper (but not otherwise) may be subject to a recall clause exercisable at any time.Any recall may only be implemented in extenuating circumstances and with the consent of the Executive, such extenuating circumstances to be determined in the Executive's absolute discretion.A goalkeeper shall not be permitted to resume any Standard Loan following the exercise of a recall.

 

51.1.3 A Club can have a maximum of 4 Players under 23 and a further 4 Players over 23 on a Standard Loan during any Season.The deadline for determining a Player's age in this respect shall be 30 June prior to the Season in which the Standard Loan is intended to take place.

 

51.1.4 No more than 2 Players who are over 23 may join one Club from another Club on a Standard Loan in any Season.

 

51.1.5 Standard Loans which subsequently become permanent transfers shall not count against a Club's quota of such Standard Loans for that Season.

 

51.2 Emergency and Youth Loans. Subject to the provisions of Regulation 50.3, Emergency Loan and Youth Loan transfers shall only be approved in accordance with the following provisions:

 

51.2.1 Emergency and Youth Loans are permitted both during the Transfer Windows and, subject to the provisions of Regulation 51.2.2, also during a Closed Period.

 

51.2.2 Notwithstanding the provisions of Regulation 51.2.1, a Player cannot be registered on an Emergency Loan or Youth Loan:

 

(a) during the period of seven days after the end of a Transfer Window;

 

(b) in the first half of the Season, after 5pm on the fourth Thursday in November; and

 

© in the second half of the Season, after 5pm on the fourth Thursday in March

 

unless in accordance with the provisions of Regulation 52.

 

51.2.3 Only:

 

(a) Scholars who are in the second or third (if that option is exercised) year of their Scholarship Agreement; or

 

(b) Contract Players aged 20 or under on 1st July immediately preceding the Season in question,

 

may be registered on a Youth Loan.

 

51.2.4 It shall be a condition of any Youth Loan involving a Scholar, or a Contract Player to whom Youth Rule 99 applies, that for the duration of the period of the Youth Loan the Player continues to fully comply with the programme of education in place for that Player.

 

51.2.5 A Player registered on a Youth Loan may, provided this is agreed between the two clubs and the Player, continue to train with and/or play for his loaning Club (or club) in any match other than matches played as part of the Premier League Competition, League Competition, League Cup, Football Association Challenge Cup or Football League Trophy (First Team Matches).Participation by the Player in First Team Matches for the loanee Club shall take precedence.

 

51.2.6 Any days on which the Player participates in a reserve team match and/or attends any training sessions for the loaning Club (or club)) shall still count towards the period of the Youth Loan.

 

51.2.7 Except for the specific circumstances provided for in Regulations 51.2.9, 51.2.10 and 52, the minimum duration of any Emergency Loan and Youth Loan shall be 28 days and the maximum duration of an Emergency Loan is 93 days.The loan period is inclusive of the starting date and the finishing date.Youth Loans may not extend beyond the date of the Player's 21st birthday.

 

51.2.8 Emergency Loans and Youth Loans may contain a break clause but only where that break clause is exercisable after the expiry of the initial 28 day period of the loan.

 

51.2.9 Emergency Loans involving goalkeepers (but not otherwise) may be subject to a recall clause within the first 28 days.Any recall may only be implemented in extenuating circumstances and with the consent of the Executive, such extenuating circumstances to be determined in the Executive's absolute discretion.

 

51.2.10 The Executive shall have discretion to extend the maximum duration of 93 days for an Emergency Loan in extenuating circumstances, such circumstances to be determined in the Executive's absolute discretion.

 

51.2.11 Subject to Regulation 51.2.12, where the Emergency Loan or Youth Loan of a Player expires (and is not renewed simultaneously) any subsequent Emergency Loan or Youth Loan of that Player to the same Club will be subject to a minimum duration of 28 days as set out in Regulation 51.2.7.

 

51.2.12 The cumulative total number of days of all Emergency Loans of one Player to the same Club may not exceed 93 days (unless extended by the Executive in accordance with the provisions of Regulation 51.2.10).

 

 

Thank you for doing the homework....I didn't think it was worth forming an opinion until I knew there was something to form it on...and there isn't!

 

Thanks again

[The9]

Seriously, who cares ?

 

NA made it perfectly clear he wouldnt walk across the road and p*ss on Puncheon if he were on fire. End of.

 

Well, if you'd been listening to the radio last night you'd have probably got as sick of them not knowing the answer but inviting argument about it as I did.

 

What annoyed me is not that they had lots of people asking, it's that they felt it was acceptable to broadcast it as a major talking point for about 20 minutes without actually bothering to come up with the answer it took me 2 minutes Googling to find.

 

Long and short, if you can't provide clarity, don't invite ill-informed discussion or you just become an even lower-rent TalkSport, and I'm pretty sure not even BBC LOCAL radio has that in its remit.

 

The actual answer is "we can't do it anyway" not "who cares?", as the regulations make the discussion a moot point rather than being one about a situation which potentially "requires man management", as Dave Merrington was blathering on about. He also then completely contradicted himself, having said all through the game that we should recall him if we could, after the match he was suddenly saying we shouldn't "if he had the wrong kind of attitude".

[Saint_clark]

solent supposedly became obsessed because they got flooded with texts + sms's from listeners asking.

 

Nope, Merrington was banging on about it the moment Lallana went down.

[Barry the Badger]

The texts started coming in after they mentioned him a couple of times and the whole thing snowballed. Was pretty ridiculous though.

[SuperMikey]

Loved Nigel's response to the question in his post-match interview though:

 

"Is it an option to recall Jason Puncheon from his loan and are you allowed to?"

"No."

"Why not?"

"Because I said so."

 

Quality!

[alpine_saint]

Well, if you'd been listening to the radio last night you'd have probably got as sick of them not knowing the answer but inviting argument about it as I did.

 

What annoyed me is not that they had lots of people asking, it's that they felt it was acceptable to broadcast it as a major talking point for about 20 minutes without actually bothering to come up with the answer it took me 2 minutes Googling to find.

 

Long and short, if you can't provide clarity, don't invite ill-informed discussion or you just become an even lower-rent TalkSport, and I'm pretty sure not even BBC LOCAL radio has that in its remit.

 

The actual answer is "we can't do it anyway" not "who cares?", as the regulations make the discussion a moot point rather than being one about a situation which potentially "requires man management", as Dave Merrington was blathering on about. He also then completely contradicted himself, having said all through the game that we should recall him if we could, after the match he was suddenly saying we shouldn't "if he had the wrong kind of attitude".

 

I look at it the other way.

 

NA doesnt want him back so it is a moot point.

[alpine_saint]

Loved Nigel's response to the question in his post-match interview though:

 

"Is it an option to recall Jason Puncheon from his loan and are you allowed to?"

"No."

"Why not?"

"Because I said so."

 

Quality!

 

Superb.

[trousers]

I'm surprised knowledgable BBC football commentators and pundits didn't know the rules before commenting on the situation....

[up and away]

I'm surprised knowledgable BBC football commentators and pundits didn't know the rules before commenting on the situation....

 

Even worse, not even a basic understanding of the self pox rules. Dopey Dave comments on the problems the opposition keeper has with a ball over the top, then goes on to comment that Kelvin does this so well in coming out for the ball. Almost in the same breath he is interrupted by "ball over the top" and BWP promptly scores. Still choking on his words, back tracks to put that blame onto the centre half. Has he never seen Kelvin play before? Of all the half decent commentators out there, why do we end up with this useless ****. Where is flash when you need him.

[stevegrant]

I'm surprised knowledgable BBC football commentators and pundits didn't know the rules before commenting on the situation....

I'm not surprised in the slightest. The BBC - as with the vast majority of other broadcasters - has gone downhill rapidly over the last 10-20 years. They seem to take a really bizarre and contradictory stance on things, they'll imply in-depth knowledge in their audience when they should be providing the knowledge and clarity themselves (as in this case), and yet imply stupidity in their audience by going into some things in minute detail when it's completely unnecessary as the audience already knows what they're talking about.

[Ken Tone]

solent supposedly became obsessed because they got flooded with texts + sms's from listeners asking.

 

What I listedened to was the commentators stirring up a flood of texts, in much the same way as they did over the Dean Richards issue. They'd get a lot of texts if they kept suggesting murdering babies too.

 

Merrington was at his most irritating as I desperately hung on after the game had finished, forced to listen to crap, as I naively and forlornly hoped for some actual information about Lallana's injury.

[The9]

I look at it the other way.

 

NA doesnt want him back so it is a moot point.

 

We didn't actually know that until a long while after the final whistle, and had to listen to about 20 minutes of guff beforehand - in fact I got so bored with the lack of actual information that I turned off before the Adkins interview (they'd already said they might not have it by the end of the show).

 

The point still stands that it's only moot because the rules make it impossible not because the manager doesn't want him, even if Adkins got the boot before the end of the season and Puncheon's mum became manager, we STILL couldn't recall Puncheon.

[Tamesaint]

Listen to Radio Solent if you want to know the rules about skateboarding grannies or the size of ostrich eggs. Just don't bother with them when it comes to football.

[The9]

I'm not surprised in the slightest. The BBC - as with the vast majority of other broadcasters - has gone downhill rapidly over the last 10-20 years. They seem to take a really bizarre and contradictory stance on things, they'll imply in-depth knowledge in their audience when they should be providing the knowledge and clarity themselves (as in this case), and yet imply stupidity in their audience by going into some things in minute detail when it's completely unnecessary as the audience already knows what they're talking about.

 

I wish we'd go back to the days when Jimmy Hill and Brian Moore used to sit on football coverage on the box and if there was a controversial incident they'd say something akin to "well, the referee's only human and his decision is final, so there's no point discussing it".

 

Nowadays you get pleas from people who don't know the laws and should, to people who definitely don't know the laws and who cares what they think anyway, to fill my tv will bilge, uninformed opinion and outright nonsense.

 

What's worse is when the FA / UEFA / FIFA decide to take the pragmatic approach rather than enforcing their own statutes, and do things like cave in on video technology, ignore their own rules on sponsorship, award World Cups then decide to consider changing the time of year they're played, and keel over when a team looks like it's going to qualify for something they shouldn't (Liverpool 2006 CL and Cardiff City 2009 UEFA Cup/Europa League spring to mind).

 

Actually I'm kinda sick of the whole "apply the rules when it suits us" attitude of pretty much all senior football administrators - if the Football League and FA had some balls in the late 80s and told the big five where to shove their Superleague, and the authorities had had the guts to say "The Taylor Report DOESN'T specify All Seaters as a cure for overcrowding and we can control it without that" (as they did from 1990-92 perfectly well with reduced standing and terrace capacity monitoring), pretty much none of this mental money-base weaselling would have happened.

 

Signed,

My Dad. :O/

[Barry the Badger]

My favourite was the commentator getting irate during the Bournemouth game because a Bournemouth player was flagged offside when receiving the ball in his own half, having come from an offside position.

 

He was getting quite irate about the ref not knowing the offside rules and you cant be offside if you receive the ball in your own half. I was only listening to the radio and I could tell the player must've come back from being offside.

[benjii]

I'm surprised knowledgable BBC football commentators and pundits didn't know the rules before commenting on the situation....

 

I am not remotely surprised...

 

 

and I don't think you are either you cheeky scamp.

[once_bitterne]

So Puncheon is on loan for the rest of the season. But that is the Premier League season. If we end up in the play-offs can we use him if needed as this will be after the PL season has completed.

[Toomer]

When Adkins was asked if a Puncheon return was an option he said NO! When asked why? he said because I said so, IMO and reading between the lines Punch is a player not wanted by Adkins at the club.

[Lord Duckhunter]

Dont know if this has been posted on here, but here's the interview. Pretty obvious that Puncheon finished at the club.

 

http://audioboo.fm/boos/309941-saints-manager-nigel-adkins-talks-about-the-injuries-to-adam-lallana-alex-chamberlain-the-possibilty-of-jason-puncheon-returning-to-the-club?utm_campaign=detailpage&utm_content=retweet&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter

[Saint_John]

What I listedened to was the commentators stirring up a flood of texts, in much the same way as they did over the Dean Richards issue. They'd get a lot of texts if they kept suggesting murdering babies too.

 

Merrington was at his most irritating as I desperately hung on after the game had finished, forced to listen to crap, as I naively and forlornly hoped for some actual information about Lallana's injury.

 

I agree Merrington was SHOCKING last night. Attempting to stir things up between JP and Nigel.

For anyone who didn't hear it, I think he was the most mentioned "Saints player" on Solent last night and he wasn't even playing.

 

From memory I think they said that they received one text BEFORE the game about JP and if you add on the fact that Solent twitter says he was at the game last night.

Footnote: Jason Puncheon was at The Valley tonight, chatting with #Saintsfc players in tunnel after game about 18 hours ago via Echofon

http://twitter.com/solentsport

 

?? I wonder if somebody knew JP was there and was "pressing Merrington buttons", knowing he would go off on one of his rants.

 

?? And who is Echofon ?

[Window Cleaner]

I agree Merrington was SHOCKING last night. Attempting to stir things up between JP and Nigel.

For anyone who didn't hear it, I think he was the most mentioned "Saints player" on Solent last night and he wasn't even playing.

 

From memory I think they said that they received one text BEFORE the game about JP and if you add on the fact that Solent twitter says he was at the game last night.

 

http://twitter.com/solentsport

 

?? I wonder if somebody knew JP was there and was "pressing Merrington buttons", knowing he would go off on one of his rants.

 

?? And who is Echofon ?

 

Merrington is always shocking, his grasp of the English Language is limited as is his knowledge of modern day football.

[The9]

So Puncheon is on loan for the rest of the season. But that is the Premier League season. If we end up in the play-offs can we use him if needed as this will be after the PL season has completed.

 

It's also arguably after the Football League season is completed... but we won't be recalling him in that case, he just won't be on loan any more.

[The9]

I agree Merrington was SHOCKING last night. Attempting to stir things up between JP and Nigel.

For anyone who didn't hear it, I think he was the most mentioned "Saints player" on Solent last night and he wasn't even playing.

 

From memory I think they said that they received one text BEFORE the game about JP and if you add on the fact that Solent twitter says he was at the game last night.

 

http://twitter.com/solentsport

 

?? I wonder if somebody knew JP was there and was "pressing Merrington buttons", knowing he would go off on one of his rants.

 

?? And who is Echofon ?

 

 

I didn't think he was particularly stirring it, and he implied both support and criticism of Adkins about Puncheon during and after commentary, as he contradicted himself.

 

Interesting rumour re: Puncheon being there though.

 

A two-second Google tells me Echofon automatically keeps unread tweets in sync between your computer, your iPhone and your iPad.

[saint simes]

I agree Merrington was SHOCKING last night. Attempting to stir things up between JP and Nigel.

For anyone who didn't hear it, I think he was the most mentioned "Saints player" on Solent last night and he wasn't even playing.

 

I must admit him ranting on about how good man managers like Harry Red**** would have put an arm around the boy and looked after him really got my goat!

[Fowllyd]

I must admit him ranting on about how good man managers like Harry Red**** would have put an arm around the boy and looked after him really got my goat!

 

Ditto. Let's face it, good old 'Arry has fallen out with/frozen out his fair share of players over the years.

[jam]

I agree Merrington was SHOCKING last night. Attempting to stir things up between JP and Nigel.

For anyone who didn't hear it, I think he was the most mentioned "Saints player" on Solent last night and he wasn't even playing.

 

From memory I think they said that they received one text BEFORE the game about JP and if you add on the fact that Solent twitter says he was at the game last night.

 

http://twitter.com/solentsport

 

?? I wonder if somebody knew JP was there and was "pressing Merrington buttons", knowing he would go off on one of his rants.

 

?? And who is Echofon ?

 

Echofon is a Twitter client, like Tweetdeck.

[Berkers]

Totally accept that he's played his last game but all this does call into question Adkin's judgement as to what makes a decent player if Puncheon's out N'Guesson and Forte are considered good enough.

Does it really matter if Puncheon is a **** off the field - we were crying out for him last night.

[Crispypie]

if you really want to know how "great" the solent commentery is take a radio to a game. You will be amazed how many times they call it wrong but never correct themselves because they assume nobody will notice.

[itchen]

It is, sadly, the modern way. Broadcasters now seek to stir up controversy in an attempt to gain ratings. In addition, everybody's opinion is equally valid so the appeals for text messages and emails become as important as actually telling us what is going on with the game. The Football League Show is particularly annoying for this. If they spent the time they waste reading out the opinions of Mr and Mrs Drunken Fan from Droitwich on showing a a bit more of the games it might make for a more satisfactory programme.

 

Solent the other night properly raised the question of cover if Lallana is out for any extended period and talking about Puncheon in that context was legitimate. But (a) if they were remotely well informed about the rules they should have known it is not allowed and (b) if they were remotely well-informed about the club they would know that it is extremely unlikely. Having raised it, they kept banging on about it with Merrington's piffle about "putting an arm round players" becoming more grating by the minute and seemed to be designed solely to stir up listeners.

 

Please, Solent, just tell us who's playing, which player passed to which other player (I realise you seem to find this difficult, especially if the players involved are black) and what happened as a result.

[benjii]

BBC's football coverage is tending towards the level of stand-out turd displayed by ITV.

 

On 606 a few weeks ago they had some numpty called Alan Parry whose obvious brief or m.o. was to talk as much contrarian ******** as possible to wind up callers. Funnily enough, most callers had him sussed and the only person he really wound up was Robbie Savage.

[The9]

BBC's football coverage is tending towards the level of stand-out turd displayed by ITV.

 

On 606 a few weeks ago they had some numpty called Alan Parry whose obvious brief or m.o. was to talk as much contrarian ******** as possible to wind up callers. Funnily enough, most callers had him sussed and the only person he really wound up was Robbie Savage.

 

Funny you mention "stand out turd displayed by ITV" and then go on to mention Alan Parry, one of ITV's lesser football commentators (Gubba-level) in the 1980s. All we need now is an Elton Welsby sighting.

[lethallee]

Solent are awful. If they done their research then they would of known that Holmes is out for rest of season and that Puncheon is a negative influence and is not wanted by Adkins. I find it frustrating that when they interview Adkins they do not ask him relevant questions that we Saints fans want answers too. A half decent interviewer would of asked about Schneiderlin's injury and when he is due to return to action. He has been injured for few weeks now and there has been no official word on this.

[once_bitterne]

BBC's football coverage is tending towards the level of stand-out turd displayed by ITV.

 

On 606 a few weeks ago they had some numpty called Alan Parry whose obvious brief or m.o. was to talk as much contrarian ******** as possible to wind up callers. Funnily enough, most callers had him sussed and the only person he really wound up was Robbie Savage.

 

You have got your Parry's confused. As The 9 noted, Alan Parry is a fairly inoffensive commentator of the 90s. The person you are referring to is Mike Parry, who was Alan Brazil's partner in booze on Talk Sport for the best part of a decade. He left the station when his spot in the schedule was given to Sma**** and Nasty (Keys and Gray) and has popped up for a couple of stints on 606 when Alan Green is away. You are correct about his MO being to say moronic things in order to provoke arguement, funnily enough it worked well on Talksport and managed to hook in quite a few white van men.

[Lets B Avenue]

Funny you mention "stand out turd displayed by ITV" and then go on to mention Alan Parry, one of ITV's lesser football commentators (Gubba-level) in the 1980s. All we need now is an Elton Welsby sighting.

 

Thats a bit harsh on Parry to compare him with Gubba. He is, after all, still employed by Sky and regularly covers Prem matches. He was ITV's athletics correspondant so footy was his 2nd string in the 80s.

 

His main claim to fame though, is that he was the co-commentator on Radio 2, with Peter Jones, on a certain Cup Final in 76. He covered the 1st half of each half and is therefore on the Cup Final LP, for those saddos that still play it. (smilies still not working)

[Raven on the wing]

What is clear is that Dave M is looking for every opportunity to "stir the pot" with the current regime at Saints because of bad feeling with NC & several ex-players.