georgeweahscousin Posted 4 May, 2011 Share Posted 4 May, 2011 Do you want me to put something on my site? http://georgeweahscousin.com/2011/05/02/did-it-for-markus/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustMike Posted 4 May, 2011 Author Share Posted 4 May, 2011 ok, so quick update. New total is £1303 which I amazing! Had an email from the club today, and as a result I am now going for the 20m X 15m which costs in excess of £6000! If we are going to do it, may as well do it in style, hey? This is some of what was said.. "Nicola has also kindly agreed to provide any outstanding funds, if necessary, to ensure that a fit and proper tribute is created in time for the start of next season, and asked me to pass the message on that he hopes you aim towards securing the largest flag possible." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustMike Posted 4 May, 2011 Author Share Posted 4 May, 2011 Do you want me to put something on my site? http://georgeweahscousin.com/2011/05/02/did-it-for-markus/ if you could please mate, if just the link to the site Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 4 May, 2011 Share Posted 4 May, 2011 Nice gesture from Cortese. Well done him. Do you have any examples of a 20m x 15m flag? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustMike Posted 4 May, 2011 Author Share Posted 4 May, 2011 Nice gesture from Cortese. Well done him. Do you have any examples of a 20m x 15m flag? how do you mean, examples? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 4 May, 2011 Share Posted 4 May, 2011 ok, so quick update. New total is £1303 which I amazing! Had an email from the club today, and as a result I am now going for the 20m X 15m which costs in excess of £6000! If we are going to do it, may as well do it in style, hey? This is some of what was said.. "Nicola has also kindly agreed to provide any outstanding funds, if necessary, to ensure that a fit and proper tribute is created in time for the start of next season, and asked me to pass the message on that he hopes you aim towards securing the largest flag possible." Absolutely fantastic!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 4 May, 2011 Share Posted 4 May, 2011 To nail this in one go - what are the chances of bucket collections at Saturdays game Or even sundays? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minty Posted 4 May, 2011 Share Posted 4 May, 2011 ok, so quick update. New total is £1303 which I amazing! Had an email from the club today, and as a result I am now going for the 20m X 15m which costs in excess of £6000! If we are going to do it, may as well do it in style, hey? This is some of what was said.. "Nicola has also kindly agreed to provide any outstanding funds, if necessary, to ensure that a fit and proper tribute is created in time for the start of next season, and asked me to pass the message on that he hopes you aim towards securing the largest flag possible." Can I suggest you perhaps start a new thread with the up-to-date information, including this text? I think a lot of people might miss it otherwise as it is buried within this thread? I also think that now that Nicola is supporting this, it would be worth publicising it a bit more to get other fans who aren't necessarily on SaintsWeb involved? Just MHO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustMike Posted 4 May, 2011 Author Share Posted 4 May, 2011 Can I suggest you perhaps start a new thread with the up-to-date information, including this text? I think a lot of people might miss it otherwise as it is buried within this thread? I also think that now that Nicola is supporting this, it would be worth publicising it a bit more to get other fans who aren't necessarily on SaintsWeb involved? Just MHO. I have the website, as well as a facebook page. Have others sharing the link via other sites too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cat Posted 4 May, 2011 Share Posted 4 May, 2011 £10 from me donated. Good luck with it, can't wait to see the flag in August. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
georgeweahscousin Posted 4 May, 2011 Share Posted 4 May, 2011 if you could please mate, if just the link to the site No probs. Good effort from you mate, and nice to see the club backing it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minty Posted 4 May, 2011 Share Posted 4 May, 2011 I have the website, as well as a facebook page. Have others sharing the link via other sites too Good points, sorry, forgot about that. I'll get sharing it too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 4 May, 2011 Share Posted 4 May, 2011 (edited) So, if he will pay the 'excess' and they want the biggest flag possible....Is it possible to get an even bigger flag than 20 x 15 ?! Edited 4 May, 2011 by Saint Garrett Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nexstar Posted 4 May, 2011 Share Posted 4 May, 2011 ok, so quick update. New total is £1303 which I amazing! Had an email from the club today, and as a result I am now going for the 20m X 15m which costs in excess of £6000! If we are going to do it, may as well do it in style, hey? This is some of what was said.. "Nicola has also kindly agreed to provide any outstanding funds, if necessary, to ensure that a fit and proper tribute is created in time for the start of next season, and asked me to pass the message on that he hopes you aim towards securing the largest flag possible." Fantastic work Mike and Nicola! By examples I think he means any pictures of flags that size, so we can get an idea of what it may look like? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 4 May, 2011 Share Posted 4 May, 2011 how do you mean, examples? Well a picture of one so we can see what how big it looks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gambol2K9 Posted 4 May, 2011 Share Posted 4 May, 2011 Donation made, cant wait to see it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Truesaint Posted 4 May, 2011 Share Posted 4 May, 2011 Donation made. Great that the club are backing it too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustMike Posted 4 May, 2011 Author Share Posted 4 May, 2011 Well a picture of one so we can see what how big it looks. http://www.hawaytheflags.co.uk/flags.htm ours will be bigger, but you get the idea Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StD Posted 4 May, 2011 Share Posted 4 May, 2011 Just donated. Keep up the great work; can't wait to see this! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 4 May, 2011 Share Posted 4 May, 2011 http://www.hawaytheflags.co.uk/flags.htm ours will be bigger, but you get the idea Any chance of having something like that thermometer which shows the money raised and the progress that we're making. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
squiggly_dan Posted 4 May, 2011 Share Posted 4 May, 2011 ok, so quick update. New total is £1303 which I amazing! Had an email from the club today, and as a result I am now going for the 20m X 15m which costs in excess of £6000! If we are going to do it, may as well do it in style, hey? This is some of what was said.. "Nicola has also kindly agreed to provide any outstanding funds, if necessary, to ensure that a fit and proper tribute is created in time for the start of next season, and asked me to pass the message on that he hopes you aim towards securing the largest flag possible." What a class bloke - good work Mike! The cover email for the Live Event Branding quote said: "thank you for your enquiry, your quotation is attached showing a few sizes (though we can make any size)." If we are now aiming for "the largest flag possible" backed by Cortese, it surely has to be a display to cover an entire stand! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy_D Posted 4 May, 2011 Share Posted 4 May, 2011 £10 donated in memory of a True Saint. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustMike Posted 4 May, 2011 Author Share Posted 4 May, 2011 What a class bloke - good work Mike! The cover email for the Live Event Branding quote said: "thank you for your enquiry, your quotation is attached showing a few sizes (though we can make any size)." If we are now aiming for "the largest flag possible" backed by Cortese, it surely has to be a display to cover an entire stand! doesnt 20 X 15 do an entire block? (think it was you that said that previously?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint_jas Posted 4 May, 2011 Share Posted 4 May, 2011 Great work Mike, just donated a tenner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iansums Posted 4 May, 2011 Share Posted 4 May, 2011 Be careful with those dimensions when you place the order, we don't a Spinal Tap Stonehenge moment! £10 on its way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iansums Posted 4 May, 2011 Share Posted 4 May, 2011 What I meant to say was we don't want a Spinal Tap Stonehenge moment! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reggie Dunlop Posted 4 May, 2011 Share Posted 4 May, 2011 Done Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Navysaint Posted 4 May, 2011 Share Posted 4 May, 2011 A £10 from me Never forgotten Markus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
niceandfriendly Posted 4 May, 2011 Share Posted 4 May, 2011 mike any chance you could put an image of the flag on the website? so the casual visitor will know exactly what you're/we're doing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tractor_Saint Posted 4 May, 2011 Share Posted 4 May, 2011 Lovely sentiment from Cotese there but think that it's a bit cheeky to up the flag from 3k to 6k cos he said he'll cover the difference Think we should continue to aim for the original size and cost and if we exceed that then ask Nicola what he'd like to do ? Great that he knows about it and supports it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tractor_Saint Posted 4 May, 2011 Share Posted 4 May, 2011 mike any chance you could put an image of the flag on the website? so the casual visitor will know exactly what you're/we're doing. And a 'TOTAL SO FAR' slap bang in big red letters on the front page Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
latter day saint Posted 4 May, 2011 Share Posted 4 May, 2011 Lovely sentiment from Cotese there but think that it's a bit cheeky to up the flag from 3k to 6k cos he said he'll cover the difference Think we should continue to aim for the original size and cost and if we exceed that then ask Nicola what he'd like to do ? Great that he knows about it and supports it Spot on. think the logistics of storage & unfurling the flag need to be sorted, as i imagine this would need a number of people to implement? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint-scooby Posted 4 May, 2011 Share Posted 4 May, 2011 You got my money, shame its not ready for Saturday, keep it up NC wont have to dig too deep then ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tractor_Saint Posted 4 May, 2011 Share Posted 4 May, 2011 Just as long as the first home game of the season is the second game of the season - flippen on holiday on the first week - ARGH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
latter day saint Posted 4 May, 2011 Share Posted 4 May, 2011 Just as long as the first home game of the season is the second game of the season - flippen on holiday on the first week - ARGH need you there to film it & stick on Youtube! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ivangolac Posted 4 May, 2011 Share Posted 4 May, 2011 Spot on. think the logistics of storage & unfurling the flag need to be sorted, as i imagine this would need a number of people to implement? I went to a Real Madrid game in the late 90's . They had a flag that covered the entire lower tier of the south stand . They positioned it (rolled up) on the floor at the front of the stand. Just before kick off everyone in row one grapped their bit and passed it backward over their heads . It was co-ordinated by guys on the pitch with megaphones ! Awesome spectacle even if I did miss the first 15 minutes of action underneath the giant flag. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
niceandfriendly Posted 4 May, 2011 Share Posted 4 May, 2011 gutted that i won't be there when it's unveiled. will be out of the country for good then, and no youtube! ARGH! thank **** for saints player Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustMike Posted 4 May, 2011 Author Share Posted 4 May, 2011 Lovely sentiment from Cotese there but think that it's a bit cheeky to up the flag from 3k to 6k cos he said he'll cover the difference Think we should continue to aim for the original size and cost and if we exceed that then ask Nicola what he'd like to do ? Great that he knows about it and supports it Thats not why I have upped the size, he said "biggest possible" so that is why I have gone for the 20m x 15m as firstly suggested on here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustMike Posted 4 May, 2011 Author Share Posted 4 May, 2011 Spot on. think the logistics of storage & unfurling the flag need to be sorted, as i imagine this would need a number of people to implement? already in the process of sorting the finer details out, not as much a need to get all the i's dotted just yet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 4 May, 2011 Share Posted 4 May, 2011 Another £30 donated on behalf of my dad this time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry the Badger Posted 5 May, 2011 Share Posted 5 May, 2011 I see The Ugly Inside have had a bit of a dig at this project. Why do people have to be so bloody negative. If you wanted a different memorial, perhaps you should've got off your arse and sorted it out like JustMike has done here!!! Great work guys, this is going to be another thing to look forward to at the start of next season! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 5 May, 2011 Share Posted 5 May, 2011 Just saw that as well, Illingsworth just can't help himself can he. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minty Posted 5 May, 2011 Share Posted 5 May, 2011 Not sure it's a dig as such, just a question as to whether something more permanent is appropriate. Each to their own. The flag doesn't preclude a statue or renaming of a stand in the future, if it is deemed appropriate. They however need more planning and agreement, whereas a flag can be used relatively quickly and easily in comparison. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry the Badger Posted 5 May, 2011 Share Posted 5 May, 2011 Not sure it's a dig as such. Well even though the headline says the flag is a good idea the article ends with "I am not against a tribute to Markus Liebherr, I am all for it, but I am for something permanent, not a flag that will have a short shelf life and in a season or so will be tatty and perhaps stuck in a shed somewhere, is that a fitting tribute for Markus ?" Ending the article with "is that a fitting tribute for Markus?" comes across as a dig. I just have an issue with people who feel the need to be negative about things like this, where others are putting their own time into sorting something which has clearly captured peoples attention. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 5 May, 2011 Share Posted 5 May, 2011 I think comes across as an idiot over this. It clearly is a fitting tribute, especially as it is unlikely to be the ONLY tribute. I am sure something more permenent will be organised at some point. Bad show Nick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WindsorSaint Posted 5 May, 2011 Share Posted 5 May, 2011 £10 paypalled this morning. Thanks for sorting this out! WS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustMike Posted 5 May, 2011 Author Share Posted 5 May, 2011 I see The Ugly Inside have had a bit of a dig at this project. Why do people have to be so bloody negative. If you wanted a different memorial, perhaps you should've got off your arse and sorted it out like JustMike has done here!!! Great work guys, this is going to be another thing to look forward to at the start of next season! ahhh the "voice of the fans" strikes again. Difference with this and naming a stand etc etc is that WE are doing it. . Through all the donations Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGTL Posted 5 May, 2011 Share Posted 5 May, 2011 Exactly Mike, ignore him as he is clearly jealous that the spotlight isn't on him for once. Top work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 5 May, 2011 Share Posted 5 May, 2011 Not sure it's a dig as such, just a question as to whether something more permanent is appropriate. Each to their own. The flag doesn't preclude a statue or renaming of a stand in the future, if it is deemed appropriate. They however need more planning and agreement, whereas a flag can be used relatively quickly and easily in comparison. Precisely. Having a flag does not prevent a different, more permament memorial, but it would be a striking and uplifting reminder of the man who saved the club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
squiggly_dan Posted 5 May, 2011 Share Posted 5 May, 2011 doesnt 20 X 15 do an entire block? (think it was you that said that previously?) I estimated that the width of one block would be 15m, hence the suggestion of 15x10m - Minty has the stadium plans, so hopefully he will be able to confirm the dimensions! I know that you are advertising it as a surfer flag, but I would think it would be very difficult to pass around the stands without getting out of shape - I was thinking that we would have a team of 6 or 8 running up the stairs either side of a block to unveil the flag, to ensure it is displayed properly. A big consideration should be wind, as it would be very easy for a gust to lift a sheet that large into the air! Mike, I was already in discussions with the club (Marketing director) earlier this season about improving the matchday experience and atmosphere - would you be happy to have a face-to-face meeting with the club to discuss both matters? I made some suggestions and was told they could not be implemented mid-season, but they would be happy to meet with 'influential' fans during the close season. As Nicola has kindly offered to meet any shortfall but many fans would like to keep it funded by us alone, perhaps we could target the cost of the flag to by met by donations, then ask Nicola to pay for any additional materials to decorate an entire stand?: The UI article is right, and so are we! Mike has said all along that this is a memorial fund, with the flag being the initial plan - if there is enough interest, the fund raising need not stop once we reach the target. Everybody wants something permanent at the stadium to remember Markus by, but the final decision on that will always be Nicola's, and I wouldn't want the fans to push something on him. I will keep hoping for a memorial garden with a simple plaque – I think that would be the most suitable tribute to the man and his character. On the matter of donations, it would be great to organise a bucket collection, but this would have to be organised through the club as we don't have a licence – too late now unfortunately. Hopefully we can capitalise on the football vacuum over the summer by getting support from players and media to spread the word. That said, the more cash we can get the better, as currently from each £10 donation, 50p is currently going to the PayPal/eBay empire! Mike, perhaps a FAQ could be an addition to the site (and edit to the original post)? You're the boss with everybody's blessing on this, so please just use this as my opinion on the issues! What is the aim of the memorial fund? To initially raise funds for a flag to be displayed at St Mary's, then work towards other tributes to Markus, whether they be a one-off, temporary, or permanent. How much will the flag cost? We are currently in negotiations with several companies to supply the flag, but are targeting an initial figure of £6000. Who will own the flag/where will it be stored/when will it be displayed? We will be in discussions with the club in the coming weeks to ensure all legal and safety issues are considered, but we would hope that the flag will be stored at the stadium and released to be used on designated 'flag days' to mark special anniversaries and important occasions. Display at away days may be considered. What will it look like? All contributors will be invited to submit and vote on a final design shortly. How much will it weigh? The fabric will be around 150g per square metre, so a 20x15m flag will be approx 45kg – manageable by 1 or 2 people. If Nicola Cortese has agreed to fund any shortfall, why should I contribute? We are aiming to have the flag as a tribute from the fans, and will continue to raise funds until the target is met. Nicola's backing ensures the flag can be ordered and paid for on time. What sort of scale of flag are we talking about? This Sunderland flag is 15x9M – we are targeting 20x15M! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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