Matthew Le God Posted 15 May, 2011 Share Posted 15 May, 2011 Don't confuse Italian fascisim with Nazi fascisim. Two very different beasts. But of course, you know everything. I wasn't the one that mentioned the Nazi's. You did in post #96! All I said was "fascist". So yes, on this matter I do know more, because you have misread what I said and assumed I was talking about the Nazi's when I made no such comment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 15 May, 2011 Share Posted 15 May, 2011 You do, of course, understand that Di Canio was giving a Roman Salute to the Lazio fans and the Irriducibili in particular and not a Nazi salute. Yes becuase using a symbol favoured by Italian fascists like Il Duce (a Lazio fan by all accounts) is so much better than one favoured by German fascists ........... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 15 May, 2011 Share Posted 15 May, 2011 Don't confuse Italian fascisim with Nazi fascisim. Two very different beasts. But of course, you know everything. Not really the place to get into this but I don't see how gassing Ethiopians is any different to gassing Jewish people....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mitch01 Posted 15 May, 2011 Share Posted 15 May, 2011 :lol::lol: Watch some highlights of his games. He's up there with Djimi Traore and Paul McShane in the "mugging a living off football" category Disagree, I think he's been one of the brighter points of an otherwise terrible season for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huntingdon Posted 15 May, 2011 Share Posted 15 May, 2011 The chances of West Ham doing a Newcastle, and winning the NPC straight away is pretty slim In fact, I they are more likely to do a Leeds & Saints, go into administration and end up in League 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Under Weststand Posted 15 May, 2011 Share Posted 15 May, 2011 Really classless Gold, Sulivan & Brady. asked Wigan for a room & sack him minutes after the game. All this after giving him the vote of confidence in January & then on countless occasions since have undermined him through several press statements. Really not sure how they will come back next season, the debt issue is massive & will take a great proportion of the parachute payments. Unless the three mentioned above will fund a one shot chance at a quick return, Somehow don't see that happening. Unless they've got a deal on Upton Park already to go? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dune Posted 15 May, 2011 Share Posted 15 May, 2011 Not really the place to get into this but I don't see how gassing Ethiopians is any different to gassing Jewish people....... And both these situations aren't much different to what we did to Mau Mau "terrorists" in colonial Kenya post WW2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flyer Posted 15 May, 2011 Share Posted 15 May, 2011 The chances of West Ham doing a Newcastle, and winning the NPC straight away is pretty slim In fact, I they are more likely to do a Leeds & Saints, go into administration and end up in League 1 They will easily win the league if they do a Newcastle and keep the team together, dismantling the team is the worst thing they can do. Besides, no one is going to want average players on 80k a week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View From The Top Posted 15 May, 2011 Share Posted 15 May, 2011 Not really the place to get into this but I don't see how gassing Ethiopians is any different to gassing Jewish people....... Fair point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjii Posted 15 May, 2011 Share Posted 15 May, 2011 They will easily win the league if they do a Newcastle and keep the team together, dismantling the team is the worst thing they can do. Besides, no one is going to want average players on 80k a week. TBF, they don't have that many "average" players. They have under-achieved woefully as most of their first team are good Premier League players who will be in demand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 15 May, 2011 Share Posted 15 May, 2011 (edited) Surely it all depends on if they keep the team together? even a bottom of the table PL team isn't exactly bad. Remember how bottom of the table pompey ripped us apart last season. Still if the money situation is as bad as everyone is saying then the team is most likely to be dismantled. Edited 16 May, 2011 by doddisalegend Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 15 May, 2011 Share Posted 15 May, 2011 Surely it all depends on if they keep the team together? even a bottom of the table PL team isn't exactly bad. Remember how bottom of the table pompey riped us apart last season. Still if the money situation is as bad as everyone is saying then the team is most likely to be dismantled. they will probably keep more players than people think right now..for a season at least anyway... No matter what, they will be one of the favourites to go back up and I expect them to challenge top 6... there are some cracking players in the NPC who will out of contract in a few weeks...West ham will probably get a few of these and will do well.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjii Posted 15 May, 2011 Share Posted 15 May, 2011 Surely it all depends on if they keep the team together? even a bottom of the table PL team isn't exactly bad. Remember how bottom of the table pompey riped us apart last season. Still if the money situation is as bad as everyone is saying then the team is most likely to be dismantled. They ripped our defence including Perry and Thomas apart once they brought on their illegally signed highly-paid subs, TBF. For the first 75 minutes we outplayed them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dune Posted 15 May, 2011 Share Posted 15 May, 2011 West Ham's co-owner David Sullivan said today that he and David Gold are likely to have to inject loans of £20m-£40m to keep the club in business should they be relegated from the Premier League at the end of the season. The club is already carrying about £80m of debt and although the co-chairmen have said they will sell heavily from the first-team squad, Sullivan believes the departures of most international players will not be enough to satisfy the banks. Sullivan went further and said that in his opinion West Ham United's financial position was the worst in English football. http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2011/may/09/david-sullivan-west-ham-relegation Apologies for linking to this grotty left wing rag, but it was the first link to the story I could find. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamilton Saint Posted 15 May, 2011 Share Posted 15 May, 2011 This is fantastic! I have two relatives here who are West Ham fans. They ridiculed me mercilessly when Saints were relegated (not once, of course, but twice). So to see a gap of two divisions between us wiped out in the same season is great! What goes around comes around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted 15 May, 2011 Share Posted 15 May, 2011 Karen Brady gets angry with a kid (possibly her son?) at the end of this video for being too slow, even though his route was obstructed... http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/13406828.stm Was she desperate to get to Avram Grant as soon as possible to do her Lord Alan impression? She really seems a rough classless scrubber despite her best efforts to appear sophisticated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 15 May, 2011 Share Posted 15 May, 2011 They ripped our defence including Perry and Thomas apart once they brought on their illegally signed highly-paid subs, TBF. For the first 75 minutes we outplayed them. You could almost be describing the ManU game this season The truth is the pace pompey had upfront had was way to much for our tired defence it just showed the difference between poor PL players and good league one players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 15 May, 2011 Share Posted 15 May, 2011 West Ham's co-owner David Sullivan said today that he and David Gold are likely to have to inject loans of £20m-£40m to keep the club in business should they be relegated from the Premier League at the end of the season. The club is already carrying about £80m of debt and although the co-chairmen have said they will sell heavily from the first-team squad, Sullivan believes the departures of most international players will not be enough to satisfy the banks. Sullivan went further and said that in his opinion West Ham United's financial position was the worst in English football. http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2011/may/09/david-sullivan-west-ham-relegation Apologies for linking to this grotty left wing rag, but it was the first link to the story I could find. Good hopefully they'll do a Sheffield Wednesday next season Does anyone think will get a new member called Tartan Hammer signing up next season?. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tedmaul Posted 15 May, 2011 Share Posted 15 May, 2011 I find Karen Brady strangely attractive. And Scott Parker, make of that what you will. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wes Tender Posted 15 May, 2011 Share Posted 15 May, 2011 Surely it all depends on if they keep the team together? even a bottom of the table PL team isn't exactly bad. Remember how bottom of the table pompey riped us apart last season. Still if the money situation is as bad as everyone is saying then the team is most likely to be dismantled. Great example, comparing a bottom of the Premiership team with a third division team, which as has been mentioned by others dominated them for 70 minutes and might have had the game sewn up, had not that bottom of the Premiership team's England goalkeeper made a string of superb saves. But this third division team actually beat a bottom of the Premiership team in the cup this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Dark Sotonic Mills Posted 15 May, 2011 Share Posted 15 May, 2011 Great example, comparing a bottom of the Premiership team with a third division team, which as has been mentioned by others dominated them for 70 minutes and might have had the game sewn up, had not that bottom of the Premiership team's England goalkeeper made a string of superb saves. But this third division team actually beat a bottom of the Premiership team in the cup this season. But Blackpool were 11th in the Premier League when we played them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Posted 15 May, 2011 Share Posted 15 May, 2011 If Birmingham go down, so will Kevin Philips On a separate note, Bridgey is now a member of the strange club of players who've won the title (Chelsea) and been relegated (Hammers) (not necessarily with the same club). Any others spring to mind? Bridge was shocking today - worse than all our LB's. What's happened to him lately - from the 2nd best LB in England (arguably 1st) to this?? Certainly would not want him on loan with us next season on today's performance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingsland Codger Posted 16 May, 2011 Share Posted 16 May, 2011 If Birmingham go down, so will Kevin Philips On a separate note, Bridgey is now a member of the strange club of players who've won the title (Chelsea) and been relegated (Hammers) (not necessarily with the same club). Any others spring to mind? Matthew Upson (Arsenal and WHU), Kanu (Arsenal and you-know-who) maybe Michael Owen (Newcastle and Manchester United). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 16 May, 2011 Share Posted 16 May, 2011 But Blackpool were 11th in the Premier League when we played them. You mean Blackpool reserves? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 16 May, 2011 Share Posted 16 May, 2011 Great example, comparing a bottom of the Premiership team with a third division team, which as has been mentioned by others dominated them for 70 minutes and might have had the game sewn up, had not that bottom of the Premiership team's England goalkeeper made a string of superb saves. But this third division team actually beat a bottom of the Premiership team in the cup this season. Does it matter? we might of dominated them for 70 mins they Won 4-1. My point still stands even poor PL players are going to be good enough to be a force in the championship If west ham keep their team together they will be a threat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
September Saint Posted 16 May, 2011 Share Posted 16 May, 2011 You mean Blackpool reserves? Yes. It was as much Saints reserves as Blackpool reserves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 16 May, 2011 Share Posted 16 May, 2011 You mean Blackpool reserves? think we made more changes than them. We stuffed premiership Blackpool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 16 May, 2011 Share Posted 16 May, 2011 Who did better..... Nirwich, Leeds and millwall or skates, hull and burnley? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
um pahars Posted 16 May, 2011 Share Posted 16 May, 2011 think we made more changes than them. We stuffed premiership Blackpool. I think 1 Blackpool player that day made more than 20 starts in the league, with the majority starting very, very few. We had 6 players who started more than 20 times last season. I don't think there can be much doubt as to who fielded the weaker team (in relative terms), rendering any realistic comparisons nigh on impossible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 16 May, 2011 Share Posted 16 May, 2011 if we are stronger than a premiership side that is good. It wasn't due to tactics it was due to better squad and better management of that squad. The comparison is they were not good enough to beat us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wes Tender Posted 16 May, 2011 Share Posted 16 May, 2011 Does it matter? we might have dominated them for 70 mins they Won 4-1. My point still stands even poor PL players are going to be good enough to be a force in the championship If west ham keep their team together they will be a threat. Where the discussion was about how we might fare against West Ham this coming season, using the Skates 4-1 victory as an example was totally irrelevant, as there was a two division gap between us at the time. I very much doubt that the Skates will be beating us now that we are on the same level as them. And there is no reason why we should not give West Ham a run for their money either, especially as the likelihood is that we will strengthen our team, whereas their team is likely to be weaker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 16 May, 2011 Share Posted 16 May, 2011 Where the discussion was about how we might fare against West Ham this coming season, using the Skates 4-1 victory as an example was totally irrelevant, as there was a two division gap between us at the time. I very much doubt that the Skates will be beating us now that we are on the same level as them. And there is no reason why we should not give West Ham a run for their money either, especially as the likelihood is that we will strengthen our team, whereas their team is likely to be weaker. How is it irrelevant? I merely used it as an example of us playing a bottom of (at the time) the PL team (which is what west ham are) with a team that contained several of our current side (Who will be playing championship next season) and lost 4-1. The whole point was to illustrate the bottom of the PL players are still good players especially in the champ If west ham keep most of their current crop of players they will be contenders next season. The current pompey team or our team in the future has no bearing on what I was saying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dune Posted 16 May, 2011 Share Posted 16 May, 2011 if we are stronger than a premiership side that is good. It wasn't due to tactics it was due to better squad and better management of that squad. The comparison is they were not good enough to beat us. lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rallyboy Posted 16 May, 2011 Share Posted 16 May, 2011 back to West Ham - they are pompey revisited, too many players who are paid too much for anyone to want them so only the good ones will go in the inevitable firesale. Natural selection will leave them with overpaid journeymen, add that to the massive debt, reduced income, and a complex budget to rethink on the stadium. I cannot see them bouncing straight back without huge loans - further gambling the future of the club. Yes their little porn gang has planned promotion campaigns before, but they must now be setting a record for the number of relegations, and things have changed since they brought Birmingham up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dune Posted 16 May, 2011 Share Posted 16 May, 2011 Yes their little porn gang has planned promotion campaigns before, but they must now be setting a record for the number of relegations, and things have changed since they brought Birmingham up. They have already made huge loans to the club. They will not be wanting to be losing all that. I expect they will try to do what Rupert did and West Ham will plummet through the CCC and end up just like we did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
verlaine1979 Posted 16 May, 2011 Share Posted 16 May, 2011 Bridge has been rubbish for years now. He looks nervous on the ball, and has done since at least 2009 when he joined Man City, and probably before then. Bridge was shocking today - worse than all our LB's. What's happened to him lately - from the 2nd best LB in England (arguably 1st) to this?? Certainly would not want him on loan with us next season on today's performance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crab Lungs Posted 16 May, 2011 Share Posted 16 May, 2011 Bridge was shocking today - worse than all our LB's. What's happened to him lately - from the 2nd best LB in England (arguably 1st) to this?? Certainly would not want him on loan with us next season on today's performance. Bridge has been awful ever since his injury at Chelsea... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint-scooby Posted 16 May, 2011 Share Posted 16 May, 2011 Another club in a downward spiral, some players will leave some will stay and kiss the badge for a season or so.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tac-tics Posted 16 May, 2011 Share Posted 16 May, 2011 Wouldnt mind ruining Karen Brady! I feel a bit sorry for Hammers fans, did anyone else see the Millwall plane banner? Even WHU fans had a laugh about it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctoroncall Posted 16 May, 2011 Share Posted 16 May, 2011 I would prefer Brum and Blackburn to join them, we tend to do well against the 'bigger' clubs. I have mixed emotions with WHU, with family ties to the club but the p0rn barons deserve this with the many mistakes they've made this season, starting with employing AG and finishing with the way they dismissed him. They'll need to raise plenty of money (£30-40m) from player sales for them to enjoy a challenge next year without worring about the financies. But to many player changes and the wrong manager in and they are stuffed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1976_Child Posted 16 May, 2011 Share Posted 16 May, 2011 Sell Boleyn Ground to property developers on agreement to rent it back until after Olympics. Should generate a few bob. Move into soul-less athletics stadium. Sounds like Brighton all over again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotty Posted 16 May, 2011 Share Posted 16 May, 2011 You mean Blackpool reserves? Yes. It was as much Saints reserves as Blackpool reserves. think we made more changes than them. We stuffed premiership Blackpool. I think 1 Blackpool player that day made more than 20 starts in the league, with the majority starting very, very few. We had 6 players who started more than 20 times last season. I don't think there can be much doubt as to who fielded the weaker team (in relative terms), rendering any realistic comparisons nigh on impossible. Notice how they plummeted down the table after we beat them and holloway chucked his dummy out the pram. I reckon we had more impact on the PL this season than anybodys realised Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandwichsaint Posted 16 May, 2011 Share Posted 16 May, 2011 Notice how they plummeted down the table after we beat them and holloway chucked his dummy out the pram. I reckon we had more impact on the PL this season than anybodys realised So what you're really saying is that Holloway should have continued with his first team in the cup, let them enjoy a game without as much pressure as a regular league game, hopefully/maybe win, preserve their momentum and team spirit, go on a bit of a 'cup run', and generate a bit of enthusiasm and extra cash from the fan base; maybe even win a trophy? And they may well have been in a beter position league-wise than by stopping their whole season, playing 10 reserves, and taking a confidence sapping hit from defeat by a third division team. That can't be right can it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
labibs Posted 16 May, 2011 Share Posted 16 May, 2011 Too early to write them off yet I think. They have a lot of players that prem sides will want, which will bring in decent amounts of money and may prevent a full fire sale. They have a promising crop of young players (Tomins, Sears, Stanislaus etc, who may be able to do a decent job in the NPC. The board backed Birmingham when they went down and kept a lot of the squad together for a promotion push for a single season, so I could see them doing something similar again. New manager will be a big appointment as well. If they get a right b*stard like Warnock or Allardyce in (managers who will get them organised and solid) they could have a decent chance of coming straight back up. They could implode, but at worst I would expect them to do a pompey and be midtable. League will be tough next year. If Cardiff don't go up and say wigan and Birmingham both come down, even getting into the playoffs will be difficult. If Wolves came down, I would expect them to win the division. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wes Tender Posted 16 May, 2011 Share Posted 16 May, 2011 How is it irrelevant? I merely used it as an example of us playing a bottom of (at the time) the PL team (which is what west ham are) with a team that contained several of our current side (Who will be playing championship next season) and lost 4-1. The whole point was to illustrate the bottom of the PL players are still good players especially in the champ If west ham keep most of their current crop of players they will be contenders next season. The current pompey team or our team in the future has no bearing on what I was saying. It isn't relevant because of the two divisions gap between the two sides. Fair enough if you wish to make a comparison between a side in the Championship and one at the bottom of the Premiership on its way down, but that is not the situation that existed between us and the Skates last season. In any event, apart from the England Goalkeeper keeping them in the game, I very much doubt that the Skates would have fared as well against our current team. Were Perry or Thomas the equals of Fonte? Who was our right back that day? Perry or Thomas? Both of them a bit lacking in pace, wouldn't you say? Chamberlain now would have done to them late in the game, what their illegal sub Owusu-Abeyie did to us. And what a subs bench we had, eh? Wotton, James, Gillett and Mills. The current Pompey team or our prospective team for next season only has a bearing in as much as West Ham's finances mirror the parlous state of the Skates' finances, so the likelihood of them keeping most of their team is remote. If the Skates of last season are to be mentioned at all, it is only instructive as an example of how their current team bears almost no resemblance to the one that played us last season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 16 May, 2011 Share Posted 16 May, 2011 It isn't relevant because of the two divisions gap between the two sides. Fair enough if you wish to make a comparison between a side in the Championship and one at the bottom of the Premiership on its way down, but that is not the situation that existed between us and the Skates last season. In any event, apart from the England Goalkeeper keeping them in the game, I very much doubt that the Skates would have fared as well against our current team. Were Perry or Thomas the equals of Fonte? Who was our right back that day? Perry or Thomas? Both of them a bit lacking in pace, wouldn't you say? Chamberlain now would have done to them late in the game, what their illegal sub Owusu-Abeyie did to us. And what a subs bench we had, eh? Wotton, James, Gillett and Mills. The current Pompey team or our prospective team for next season only has a bearing in as much as West Ham's finances mirror the parlous state of the Skates' finances, so the likelihood of them keeping most of their team is remote. If the Skates of last season are to be mentioned at all, it is only instructive as an example of how their current team bears almost no resemblance to the one that played us last season. Wow you are focusing way to much on this. Losing to pompey really hurt you didn't it? The jump up from legaue 1 to the championship is far smaller than champ to prem. The skates had the worst team in the PL that season we had a team arguably good enough for the championship last season and yet despite us battering them for 70 minutes they still ran out 4-1 winners becuase they had PL players with PL pace. My only point here is even poor PL players are still decent players. I'm making no comparsions about how well we or pompey will do next year only that if (and as you point out it is a big if) West ham keep the bulk of their current team together they will be a decent team. Will it happen I don't know and as yet probably no one does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted 16 May, 2011 Share Posted 16 May, 2011 Too early to write them off yet I think. They have a lot of players that prem sides will want, which will bring in decent amounts of money and may prevent a full fire sale. They have a promising crop of young players (Tomins, Sears, Stanislaus etc, who may be able to do a decent job in the NPC. The board backed Birmingham when they went down and kept a lot of the squad together for a promotion push for a single season, so I could see them doing something similar again. New manager will be a big appointment as well. If they get a right b*stard like Warnock or Allardyce in (managers who will get them organised and solid) they could have a decent chance of coming straight back up. They could implode, but at worst I would expect them to do a pompey and be midtable. League will be tough next year. If Cardiff don't go up and say wigan and Birmingham both come down, even getting into the playoffs will be difficult. If Wolves came down, I would expect them to win the division. You have to take what Gold & Sullivan with a pinch of salt, they're well renowned gobsh1tes who will peddle all sorts of stories to the press to ingratiate themselves with the fans. That said, their financial situation is without doubt completely dire, as they inherited a complete catastrophe of a club from the Icelandics. Kieron Dyer and Freddie Ljungberg, who started just 32 matches between them over the course of their contracts, cost £34M to the club. Insane. You can bet that the likes of Rob Green, Scott Parker, Can't Control and Robbie Keane will all be on very high wages. But (perhaps apart from Keane) they all have a re-sale value and should be in demand from a Prem club. West Ham's massive problem will be the amount of dross that they have on the books but that still earn 20K, 30K or 40K a week. No club is going to want to take those salaries on board, so West Ham are either faced with the owner's stumping up or shipping them off to other clubs and subsidising their wages. I cannot see Sullivan and Gold sitting by and watching the business impode; I think they will take the decision to get rid of as many of their players as is possible, so a huge fire sale. It could mean severe problems for the 'ammers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingsbridge Saint Posted 16 May, 2011 Share Posted 16 May, 2011 Wouldn't be surprised to see West Ham sold on to some dodgy Russians over the summer, who have suddenly spotted a more attractive football investment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wes Tender Posted 16 May, 2011 Share Posted 16 May, 2011 Wow you are focusing way to much on this. Losing to pompey really hurt you didn't it? The jump up from legaue 1 to the championship is far smaller than champ to prem. The skates had the worst team in the PL that season we had a team arguably good enough for the championship last season and yet despite us battering them for 70 minutes they still ran out 4-1 winners becuase they had PL players with PL pace. My only point here is even poor PL players are still decent players. I'm making no comparsions about how well we or pompey will do next year only that if (and as you point out it is a big if) West ham keep the bulk of their current team together they will be a decent team. Will it happen I don't know and as yet probably no one does. No, it didn't hurt, as I was able to reason that there were two divisions between us, the England National goalkeeper kept them in the game and late on they introduced players who shouldn't have been on the pitch who made the difference against an aged defence. So really, it was a bad example you made, but you seem reluctant to admit it. I don't accept that the Skates had the worst team that season, any more than West Ham have the worst team this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jam Posted 16 May, 2011 Share Posted 16 May, 2011 Notice how they plummeted down the table after we beat them and holloway chucked his dummy out the pram. I reckon we had more impact on the PL this season than anybodys realised Once we beat teams they stay beat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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