PaulGilchrist_76 Posted 30 June, 2011 Share Posted 30 June, 2011 Unless we are prepared to pay the required transfer fees and match the player's wage requirements we will never sign the quality players needed to reach the premiership. All we will be left with is the dross, old, injury prone has-beens and never-will be's. I thought the days of Saints scouring for the bargain basement buys were long gone. Still the same old Saints though isn't it? I expect we will still be trying to sign players the day before the season starts and then they will say 'we can still get loan players in' and so it will go on, same as it ever was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View From The Top Posted 30 June, 2011 Share Posted 30 June, 2011 Since you're clearly hard of thinking I'll point out a £3.25m bid for Billy Sharpe. Idiot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Appy Posted 30 June, 2011 Share Posted 30 June, 2011 This new thread is needed why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted 30 June, 2011 Share Posted 30 June, 2011 Since you're clearly hard of thinking I'll point out a £3.25m bid for Billy Sharpe. Idiot. Which the player only turned down because he wants a move to a Premier League club. So nothing to do with not meeting wage requirements. The lack of intellect of some people on here still manages to amaze me, it really does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
class of 76 Posted 30 June, 2011 Share Posted 30 June, 2011 Unless we are prepared to pay the required transfer fees and match the player's wage requirements we will never sign the quality players needed to reach the premiership. All we will be left with is the dross, old, injury prone has-beens and never-will be's. I thought the days of Saints scouring for the bargain basement buys were long gone. Still the same old Saints though isn't it? I expect we will still be trying to sign players the day before the season starts and then they will say 'we can still get loan players in' and so it will go on, same as it ever was. I don't think so Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 30 June, 2011 Share Posted 30 June, 2011 Unless we are prepared to pay the required transfer fees and match the player's wage requirements we will never sign the quality players needed to reach the premiership. All we will be left with is the dross, old, injury prone has-beens and never-will be's. I thought the days of Saints scouring for the bargain basement buys were long gone. Still the same old Saints though isn't it? I expect we will still be trying to sign players the day before the season starts and then they will say 'we can still get loan players in' and so it will go on, same as it ever was. do you know something no-one else does, or is this just a silly post? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 30 June, 2011 Share Posted 30 June, 2011 I think you make a valid point so ignore the abuse that will inevitably come your way. We really need to get cracking with some signings because historically we are slow starters And we need everyone bedded in and ready to go for the new season. Until we sign someone of proven quality or who will significantly improve the team, there will always be that worry there among some that our financial support has tailed off from last season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 30 June, 2011 Share Posted 30 June, 2011 valid point being better players cost more money??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gaz Posted 30 June, 2011 Share Posted 30 June, 2011 valid point being better players cost more money??? Surprise surprise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 30 June, 2011 Share Posted 30 June, 2011 enlighening wasn't it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Um Bongo Posted 30 June, 2011 Share Posted 30 June, 2011 I think 60% of the posters on here are complete mongs who have no idea about football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackFrost Posted 30 June, 2011 Share Posted 30 June, 2011 That reminds me, there's a car boot sale on near where I live on Saturday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 30 June, 2011 Share Posted 30 June, 2011 does the OP realise we have been promoted yet..? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
latter day saint Posted 30 June, 2011 Share Posted 30 June, 2011 I think 60% of the posters on here are complete mongs who have no idea about football. i agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustMike Posted 30 June, 2011 Share Posted 30 June, 2011 I think you make a valid point so ignore the abuse that will inevitably come your way. We really need to get cracking with some signings because historically we are slow starters And we need everyone bedded in and ready to go for the new season. Until we sign someone of proven quality or who will significantly improve the team, there will always be that worry there among some that our financial support has tailed off from last season. no, he really doesnt! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leslie Charteris Posted 30 June, 2011 Share Posted 30 June, 2011 I suspect a deal or two has been struck already and will be announced when existing contracts run out. I hope tomorrow's press conference counters the points raised by the OP and I think it will. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derry Posted 30 June, 2011 Share Posted 30 June, 2011 Unless we are prepared to pay the required transfer fees and match the player's wage requirements we will never sign the quality players needed to reach the premiership. All we will be left with is the dross, old, injury prone has-beens and never-will be's. I thought the days of Saints scouring for the bargain basement buys were long gone. Still the same old Saints though isn't it? I expect we will still be trying to sign players the day before the season starts and then they will say 'we can still get loan players in' and so it will go on, same as it ever was. Take out the second sentence, then the remainder has been put forward by many posters this close season. The first sentence is a very valid point, whilst the last sentence is a possibility, although I feel unlikely. I would have thought that scouring the lower leagues and even non league (McHail-Smith, Long, Doyle, Kightly amongst many others spring to mind) is important. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crowds Posted 30 June, 2011 Share Posted 30 June, 2011 Thread starter is a bellend Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View From The Top Posted 30 June, 2011 Share Posted 30 June, 2011 Take out the second sentence, then the remainder has been put forward by many posters this close season. The first sentence is a very valid point, whilst the last sentence is a possibility, although I feel unlikely. I would have thought that scouring the lower leagues and even non league (McHail-Smith, Long, Doyle, Kightly amongst many others spring to mind) is important. A very valid point. Long by himself illustrates what is available in you look hard enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 30 June, 2011 Share Posted 30 June, 2011 A very valid point. Long by himself illustrates what is available in you look hard enough. Doyle at wolves cost reading something like £100k Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 30 June, 2011 Share Posted 30 June, 2011 I'd actually rather we signed good lower league talent. Players who are hungry to prove themselves at a higher level ones that think that playing for saints is a good thing. That's what we've had the last couple of seasons players who look like they actually want to be at Southampton football club. Give me a settled, hardworking team of commited, if not the most talented, players over a bunch of talented but dis-interested prima donnas, only here to milk the club before moving on. If we don't sign any PL/championship super stars and sign some up and coming lower league talent I won't be upset HTBH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotty Posted 30 June, 2011 Share Posted 30 June, 2011 I think you make a valid point so ignore the abuse that will inevitably come your way. We really need to get cracking with some signings because historically we are slow starters And we need everyone bedded in and ready to go for the new season. Until we sign someone of proven quality or who will significantly improve the team, there will always be that worry there among some that our financial support has tailed off from last season. Yet to be demonstrated really mate. Personally, I would have thought that Stevens signed last season (who most on here here thought was an absolutely cracking signing) and then not taken up on a contract was a hint of the managements ambitions. Cortese inc (trademark) seem to play their cards very close to the waistcoat, I'm still drawing breath from last season, which was the first I can honestly say I've really enjoyed and felt positive about for a hell of a long time. Wait and see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 30 June, 2011 Share Posted 30 June, 2011 Is this really all that matters to some people? We have to spend £$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ on a player just because? If some of the people on this forum ever become football managers then I fear for the club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 30 June, 2011 Share Posted 30 June, 2011 Is this really all that matters to some people? We have to spend £$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ on a player just because? If some of the people on this forum ever become football managers then I fear for the club. they must have only started supporting saint within the last 18 months Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crab Lungs Posted 30 June, 2011 Share Posted 30 June, 2011 Spending gazillions might help in some respects, but a guaranteed making of a successful team it is not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TopGun Posted 30 June, 2011 Share Posted 30 June, 2011 I suspect a deal or two has been struck already and will be announced when existing contracts run out. I hope tomorrow's press conference counters the points raised by the OP and I think it will. I think this is also likely to be the case. I far rather the Cortese policy of keeping everything confidential and under wraps than that of Pompey who seem to be publicising every player they are interested in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 30 June, 2011 Share Posted 30 June, 2011 I think this is also likely to be the case. I far rather the Cortese policy of keeping everything confidential and under wraps than that of Pompey who seem to be publicising every player they are interested in. Agreed, but some people can't stand this for some reason. They need to be spoon fed daily just to appease them. Alot of peoples opinions are that Leicester are spending £££££ simply because they're linked to so many players. They've only spent just over £1m and their fans are already panicking that they actually have no money. So it's not just us with the idiot fans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 30 June, 2011 Share Posted 30 June, 2011 Is this really all that matters to some people? We have to spend £$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ on a player just because? If some of the people on this forum ever become football managers then I fear for the club. bet they would have been gutted if they were Norwich fans 12 months ago Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Shearer Posted 30 June, 2011 Share Posted 30 June, 2011 I'd actually rather we signed good lower league talent. Players who are hungry to prove themselves at a higher level ones that think that playing for saints is a good thing. That's what we've had the last couple of seasons players who look like they actually want to be at Southampton football club. Give me a settled, hardworking team of commited, if not the most talented, players over a bunch of talented but dis-interested prima donnas, only here to milk the club before moving on. If we don't sign any PL/championship super stars and sign some up and coming lower league talent I won't be upset HTBH Seconded - been a long time since Saints have unearthed good lower league talent (unless someone wants to correct me?). One of the reasons why I hope Aaron Martin makes the step up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 30 June, 2011 Share Posted 30 June, 2011 Seconded - been a long time since Saints have unearthed good lower league talent (unless someone wants to correct me?). One of the reasons why I hope Aaron Martin makes the step up. We're cradle-snatchers - we don't need to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjii Posted 30 June, 2011 Share Posted 30 June, 2011 Unless we are prepared to pay the required transfer fees and match the player's wage requirements we will never sign the quality players needed to reach the premiership. All we will be left with is the dross, old, injury prone has-beens and never-will be's. I thought the days of Saints scouring for the bargain basement buys were long gone. Still the same old Saints though isn't it? I expect we will still be trying to sign players the day before the season starts and then they will say 'we can still get loan players in' and so it will go on, same as it ever was. Get a grip. I'll even pick your rusk up for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Marco Posted 30 June, 2011 Share Posted 30 June, 2011 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulwantsapint Posted 1 July, 2011 Share Posted 1 July, 2011 Let's buy another Wayne Thomas for £1m He must have great as he cost more than the combined total of Richardson Butterfield Jaidi Harding Dickson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 1 July, 2011 Share Posted 1 July, 2011 Let's buy another Wayne Thomas for £1m He must have great as he cost more than the combined total of Richardson Butterfield Jaidi Harding Dickson I doubt it. The combined wages, transfer fees, agent fees and signing on fees of those five players would exceed that of the Wayne Thomas deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 1 July, 2011 Share Posted 1 July, 2011 (edited) I doubt it. The combined wages, transfer fees, agent fees and signing on fees of those five players would exceed that of the Wayne Thomas deal. Nonetheless, a very interesting point. Transfer fee does not always equal overall worth to the first team. I wonder what the equivalent of Agustin Delgado would be. Please don't try to spoil it with pedantry, Remember these two sayings: 1) Discretion is the better part of valour, and: 2) Nobody likes a smartarse. Edited 1 July, 2011 by Colinjb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westofshannonsaint Posted 1 July, 2011 Share Posted 1 July, 2011 that would be a great avatar.... I also see no need for the new thread, why not tag this on to the "we need to spend now" thread? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintscottofthenortham Posted 1 July, 2011 Share Posted 1 July, 2011 Unless we are prepared to pay the required transfer fees and match the player's wage requirements we will never sign the quality players needed to reach the premiership. All we will be left with is the dross, old, injury prone has-beens and never-will be's. I thought the days of Saints scouring for the bargain basement buys were long gone. Still the same old Saints though isn't it? I expect we will still be trying to sign players the day before the season starts and then they will say 'we can still get loan players in' and so it will go on, same as it ever was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Windmill Arm 2 Posted 1 July, 2011 Share Posted 1 July, 2011 Unless we are prepared to pay the required transfer fees and match the player's wage requirements we will never sign the quality players needed to reach the premiership. All we will be left with is the dross, old, injury prone has-beens and never-will be's. I thought the days of Saints scouring for the bargain basement buys were long gone. Still the same old Saints though isn't it? I expect we will still be trying to sign players the day before the season starts and then they will say 'we can still get loan players in' and so it will go on, same as it ever was.What the feck are you talking about you hysterical tart??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StVince1966 Posted 1 July, 2011 Share Posted 1 July, 2011 must agree with the lead thread.we have allways allways been cautious to a point of missing out on many targets over the years. this season seems to have the same feel about it at the moment? before you all critisize i do understand its only july but clubs have to make certain statements in the transfer market not only for the fans but also players. example if you had a choice between leicester or us at the moment who would you choose as a player? we may have a very rich swiss owners but have we very rich swiss spenders? i fear we have not.that said i will be getting my first season ticket since lowe returned and look forward to a good season.heres hoping for a great signing or two! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 1 July, 2011 Share Posted 1 July, 2011 must agree with the lead thread.we have allways allways been cautious to a point of missing out on many targets over the years. this season seems to have the same feel about it at the moment? before you all critisize i do understand its only july but clubs have to make certain statements in the transfer market not only for the fans but also players. example if you had a choice between leicester or us at the moment who would you choose as a player? we may have a very rich swiss owners but have we very rich swiss spenders? i fear we have not.that said i will be getting my first season ticket since lowe returned and look forward to a good season.heres hoping for a great signing or two! missed out on who so far?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRichmond Posted 1 July, 2011 Share Posted 1 July, 2011 Since you're clearly hard of thinking I'll point out a £3.25m bid for Billy Sharpe. Idiot. But he turned us down Any idea WHY ???? Something wrong there somehow It just does not stack up Even as a neutral, you'd rate Saints as "bigger" than Donny Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 1 July, 2011 Share Posted 1 July, 2011 But he turned us down Any idea WHY ???? Something wrong there somehow It just does not stack up Even as a neutral, you'd rate Saints as "bigger" than Donny wait until its not just paper talk / rumours. Window hardly opened, other teams not strengthened Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pedro Posted 1 July, 2011 Share Posted 1 July, 2011 Glad we're not getting in players at any price, loads of players out there at more reasonable fees. Rather Cortese does his business his way, not like those tossers at Posh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sammysaint Posted 1 July, 2011 Share Posted 1 July, 2011 I see your point PG76 BUT LETS BE Real most teams announce players around 1st July as thats when the players contracts are normally up, i don't think were looking for cheap players, but were still trying to find a bargain, look at Butterfield got him on a free/cheap and he turned out to be better then Frazer last season who we paid nearly 1 mill for, despite it being obvious on his day Frazer is a better player but he didn't perform as constant as Butterfield, also look at RJ signed on a free has been a better player then Seabourne who cost around 500k i believe. Money doesn't mean success maybe we have spoken to a few players whos in there last year of contract or due to expiry shortly and were signing them on a free lets be honest we would have to spend alot of money to buy better then we have in certain positions, i see us signing a CB CF and a winger/wing back like JAR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hughieslastminutegoal Posted 1 July, 2011 Share Posted 1 July, 2011 Which the player only turned down because he wants a move to a Premier League club. So nothing to do with not meeting wage requirements. The lack of intellect of some people on here still manages to amaze me, it really does. You say thay other people are idiots but you base your opinion on what a player says publically!! If you wanted more money than a club were prepared to offer you, would you announce to the world you are a greedy barsteward, or say it's because you want (and are capable of) a better standard of football? Ever heard of pinches of salt? I think you should try taking a player statement with a big one of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macey_J2 Posted 1 July, 2011 Share Posted 1 July, 2011 Owned! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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