Minty Posted 13 April, 2012 Share Posted 13 April, 2012 Sharp does not deserve too much criticism. Yes he went down easily but it was a good assist for the goal and he didn't have a lot to work with. A lot of the time, because of the laboured approach play at times, he was left trying to feed off scraps. Now is not the time to find scapegoats. If anything I would highlight defensive frailties over attacking ones on an individual basis, but this is a team game, and the most *effective* team won the game tonight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Without a Halo Posted 13 April, 2012 Share Posted 13 April, 2012 Nigel goes on about our squad but it was found out tonight Reading missing two key midflelders and bring on Subs like Lefondre Chaplow struggles and our subs De Ridder and Guly made no impact at all! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cascadia Saint Posted 13 April, 2012 Share Posted 13 April, 2012 It was a terrific game. The scoreline lies, but that's the way it happens sometimes. I look forward to both teams being promoted and will have no hard feelings at going up in second place to Reading. However, if WHam somehow overtake us I will have to set fire to a tramp. Agree totally. Although I will only set fire to a tramp if he is in Portsmouth. Or Austria. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Who? Posted 13 April, 2012 Share Posted 13 April, 2012 We will win on Tuesday and beat Cov home.....we will not beat Middlesbough as it is on tv Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the saint in winchester Posted 13 April, 2012 Share Posted 13 April, 2012 Well, we'll have to hope Wham mess up. I can see us finishing third better than 17th!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 13 April, 2012 Share Posted 13 April, 2012 The scoreline doesnt lie, and we did deserve it. Forget the specifics and think about what Reading just did. Their organisation, movement, defending and soaking up pressure was superb. They did a thorough job on us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brightspark Posted 13 April, 2012 Share Posted 13 April, 2012 Good performance, Reading just too effective - channel the anger into the Peterborough match and smash them. Davis 7 - couldn't stop any of there goals Butterfield 7 - constant crossing was good, some worked, some didn't Fonte 5 - failed to deal with Roberts, messed up for 3rd goal Hooiveld 7 - dealed with Roberts better, could have scored from a corner or two Fox 6 - didn't quite come off for him today but some great corners unfinished Hammond 6 - shame he was caught out for their 2nd, but generally lead the team well Cork 7 - good passing, good movement, good performance Chaplow 5 - didn't cross the ball well, 1 mi****, poor discpline lead to early sub Lallana 8 - really positive energetic performance, what a player Sharp 7 - the endeavour was there, the cutting edge was snuffed out by an awesome Reading backline Lambert 7 - dominated Pearce in the first half as Roberts did to Fonte, but wasn't quite involved enough at the end for me De Ridder 8 - fantastic energy, caused them problems, great work to stop Roberts Guly 6 - good passing but didn't change the result Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poshie72 Posted 13 April, 2012 Share Posted 13 April, 2012 That hurts ... Though not downhearted. A win on Tuesday and things will look better. They have the best defence in the division and it showed tonight. If we had put any other team under that sort of pressure it would have been a walk over Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
niceandfriendly Posted 13 April, 2012 Share Posted 13 April, 2012 Fox gave the ball away in the build up to Readings first, Poor marking for Readings second, and a combination of a crap header from Guly and some woeful defending by Fonte led to Readings 3rd. Mistakes like that and you will get punished. Yep. Add in Hammond giving the ball away for their second too. Personal errors cost us big time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 13 April, 2012 Share Posted 13 April, 2012 The scoreline doesnt lie, and we did deserve it. Forget the specifics and think about what Reading just did. Their organisation, movement, defending and soaking up pressure was superb. They did a thorough job on us. thanks for that, did not notice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 13 April, 2012 Share Posted 13 April, 2012 Nigel goes on about our squad but it was found out tonight Reading missing two key midflelders and bring on Subs like Lefondre Chaplow struggles and our subs De Ridder and Guly made no impact at all! De ridder did ok but takes to long on the ball, Guly just slowed the pace of the game when we needed to be at thre throats Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Without a Halo Posted 13 April, 2012 Share Posted 13 April, 2012 Nigel goes on about our squad but it was found out tonight Reading missing two key midflelders and bring on Subs like Lefondre Chaplow struggles and our subs De Ridder and Guly made no impact at all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 13 April, 2012 Share Posted 13 April, 2012 Great performance, they did us proud tonight. This team has what it takes without a shadow of a doubt. ^ this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
niceandfriendly Posted 13 April, 2012 Share Posted 13 April, 2012 Perhaps if we'd have started with De Ridder we may have won, but that's not a swipe at Adkins. Who'd have known Chaplow would play so badly? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 13 April, 2012 Share Posted 13 April, 2012 Well the fight is on for 2nd now. Unless Brighton do us a big favour it is going to get very nasty. Would we go through in the dreaded play offs ? Not a chance. Look at the teams current in 3rd to 9th. We have very patchy records against them. We could get Cardiff, Brum, Blackpool or Brighton. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MOSaint Posted 13 April, 2012 Share Posted 13 April, 2012 Shouldn't get too down though, we only really need 6 points given our GD and with P'Boro and Coventry still to play we are still in a good position. Honestly if we can't see those two off we don't deserve promotion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Without a Halo Posted 13 April, 2012 Share Posted 13 April, 2012 Saints can never do anything the easy way can they as Saints fans we are born to suffer! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint_jas Posted 13 April, 2012 Share Posted 13 April, 2012 Still think we will go up, away form seems to be better than home form lately. Just wish we would take our chances after dominating large parts of the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonnyboy Posted 13 April, 2012 Share Posted 13 April, 2012 I hope Coventry are already relegated (or safe) by the time we play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Micky Posted 13 April, 2012 Share Posted 13 April, 2012 There was no cheating There was no robbing There was no mugging Reading are a good team. Their defending, movement, counter play, energy levels and agression get the job done. They withstood our pressure and hit us as soon as we literally took our eye off the ball. By contrast we are too casual, too slow, too into one touch too many and the clever pass. Rickie was the best player on the pitch, but there was far too many screw-ups in midfield and our defence is f**king shocking. Reading are the Champions, and over 46 games will have earned it. Us ? We have some serious sh*t soul searching and work to do in the next few days to prevent this season being for nought. Agree 100% with this. For all our possession, most of it was in front of their back four, our finishing was poor apart from a few odd attempts. We were neither robbed or cheated - there were no pens in there at all. Yeah we played some nice football at times - but was it effective - nope. They had three chances, gave the ball some violence and scored every time. There was nothing lucky about their win tonight. Don't know where this leaves us in terms of confidence - but it ain't been a good night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveyR Posted 13 April, 2012 Share Posted 13 April, 2012 Fonte was shocking and Fox not much better. As others have said if we'd been more clincal up front we would have won but they didn't put the ball away with poor headers from Jos and Lalana. Lalana is flattering to decieve at the moment. All tricks but no substance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hackedoff Posted 13 April, 2012 Share Posted 13 April, 2012 Too slow getting forward. Too vulnerable to pace at the back. Too many square balls. Too reliant on back passes to the keeper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 13 April, 2012 Share Posted 13 April, 2012 Good performance, Reading just too effective - channel the anger into the Peterborough match and smash them. Davis 7 - couldn't stop any of there goals Butterfield 7 - constant crossing was good, some worked, some didn't Fonte 5 - failed to deal with Roberts, messed up for 3rd goal Hooiveld 7 - dealed with Roberts better, could have scored from a corner or two Fox 6 - didn't quite come off for him today but some great corners unfinished Hammond 6 - shame he was caught out for their 2nd, but generally lead the team well Cork 7 - good passing, good movement, good performance Chaplow 5 - didn't cross the ball well, 1 mi****, poor discpline lead to early sub Lallana 8 - really positive energetic performance, what a player Sharp 7 - the endeavour was there, the cutting edge was snuffed out by an awesome Reading backline Lambert 7 - dominated Pearce in the first half as Roberts did to Fonte, but wasn't quite involved enough at the end for me De Ridder 8 - fantastic energy, caused them problems, great work to stop Roberts Guly 6 - good passing but didn't change the result How on earth does Lallana merit an 8 ? He is totally ineffectual. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
niceandfriendly Posted 13 April, 2012 Share Posted 13 April, 2012 Nigel goes on about our squad but it was found out tonight Reading missing two key midflelders and bring on Subs like Lefondre Chaplow struggles and our subs De Ridder and Guly made no impact at all Thought both payed well when they came on, but the team didn't do enough to win. De Ridder especially played very well when he came on. Beat Harte constantly, crossed well. He also got into some great positions, then we refused to play him in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint_jas Posted 13 April, 2012 Share Posted 13 April, 2012 Nigel goes on about our squad but it was found out tonight Reading missing two key midflelders and bring on Subs like Lefondre Chaplow struggles and our subs De Ridder and Guly made no impact at all Thought De Ridder played well when he came on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mulletsaint Posted 13 April, 2012 Share Posted 13 April, 2012 We will win on Tuesday and beat Cov home.....we will not beat Middlesbough as it is on tv Actually had us to lose this 2-1 on the bbc predictor although in the end not sure how we lost. Looks like Reading are having a run similar to ours a few weeks ago (winning lucky). Our big problem is we now have two tricky away games before the easiest in our run-in. If the next one goes badly and the Hammers make up the points the Coventry match will be a whole lot harder than it should. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohio Saint Posted 13 April, 2012 Share Posted 13 April, 2012 De ridder did ok but takes to long on the ball, Guly just slowed the pace of the game when we needed to be at thre throats In most other games, SDR could have been the difference for us. Today was a bit of an odd one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suomi Saint Posted 13 April, 2012 Share Posted 13 April, 2012 Fox at fault for the first - terrible crossfield ball. Cork the 2nd - didn't pick his man up who had acres of space. And of course Fonte the 3rd. Just terrible defending, pure and simple. With this team we will be drubbed in the Premier - if we get there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minty Posted 13 April, 2012 Share Posted 13 April, 2012 How on earth does Lallana merit an 8 ? He is totally ineffectual. alps, if giving him an 8 is not realistic, neither is saying he was ineffectual. He was tidy and clever at times but didn't have enough end product IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalek2003 Posted 13 April, 2012 Share Posted 13 April, 2012 Shouldn't get too down though, we only really need 6 points given our GD and with P'Boro and Coventry still to play we are still in a good position. Honestly if we can't see those two off we don't deserve promotion. Just calming down now. I suppose the big question is how Wham perform tomorrow. A draw or especially a defeat and it looks good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SOTONS EAST SIDE Posted 13 April, 2012 Share Posted 13 April, 2012 Fonte was arse tonight, gave away two goals. Sharp was busy, but no impact. Prem class these two are not on tonights display. Were still take second, and i would be happy with that!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 13 April, 2012 Share Posted 13 April, 2012 alps, if giving him an 8 is not realistic, neither is saying he was ineffectual. He was tidy and clever at times but didn't have enough end product IMO. Ergo, ineffectual. Apart from entertaining some little kids and blue-rinse brigade members with his tidiness and cleverness Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 13 April, 2012 Share Posted 13 April, 2012 Poor old Nige is babbling a bit there. Stop saying "point of view" my old son. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boris Karloff Posted 13 April, 2012 Share Posted 13 April, 2012 Disappointing. At the end of the day we missed Morgan who can dicatate the game better. It is worrying how easily we get picked off against the good sides though. Fonte hasn't been great all season and was really poor for their third. Chaplow also did absolutely nothing. If we go up we need a faster central defender and we need to sort out RM. It's all a bit of a mess at the moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Under Weststand Posted 13 April, 2012 Share Posted 13 April, 2012 Very dissapointed, we were well and truly mugged tonight. Reading were very lucky tonight, but fair play they did what we did to Leeds the other day. On to posh and we need to smash them and put us on the brink. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dune Posted 13 April, 2012 Share Posted 13 April, 2012 Not a chance. Look at the teams current in 3rd to 9th. We have very patchy records against them. We could get Cardiff, Brum, Blackpool or Brighton. You are without doubt the worst follower (you're not a supporter) that this club has. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stepgar Posted 13 April, 2012 Share Posted 13 April, 2012 Shouldn't get too down though, we only really need 6 points given our GD and with P'Boro and Coventry still to play we are still in a good position. Honestly if we can't see those two off we don't deserve promotion. Arrrrrrrrrgggggggghhhhhhh.........fuuuck off you ***t. We don't deserve to go up? What planet do live on. West ham don't deserve to go up. We have been in the top two ALL season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjsaint Posted 13 April, 2012 Share Posted 13 April, 2012 I'm starting to think that if we do go up, we will have to spend a lot of money to stay there. We have very few players who are anywhere near Prem quality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
niceandfriendly Posted 13 April, 2012 Share Posted 13 April, 2012 Don't want to go to bed and wake up the girlfriend as she'll inevitably ask me how we did. Can't f*cking stand it when I have to admit we lost. ffs but it is 5 in the morning so I guess I should turn in. Hate sleeping angry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohio Saint Posted 13 April, 2012 Share Posted 13 April, 2012 Alps, do you ever look past the score to form your opinions? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 13 April, 2012 Share Posted 13 April, 2012 I'm starting to think that if we do go up, we will have to spend a lot of money to stay there. We have very few players who are anywhere near Prem quality. wet fannie alert get a grip ffs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gigersaint Posted 13 April, 2012 Share Posted 13 April, 2012 I'm ****ed off to say the least, in 40 years of supporting Saints I'd hoped that at least once in my lifetime I'd see us win a title. From the position we were in before tonight I thought it was a possibility, can't see it now. Wanted to see us bury Reading and get one step further to it, can't see it happening now, and ****ed off about tonight's result is an understatement. Better ****ing win next week at Peterborough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 13 April, 2012 Share Posted 13 April, 2012 If I were a Reading fan, I would be quite offended at the "mugging" comments. The defended superbly, harried us for posession, and broke quickly and intelligence. FFS, get over it. The better team won. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gjphilsaint Posted 13 April, 2012 Share Posted 13 April, 2012 Do not rely on WHU or indeed broghton to do us ANY favours. Now that is the Southampton way!!! Ball still in our court, it is up to us! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 13 April, 2012 Share Posted 13 April, 2012 If I were a Reading fan, I would be quite offended at the "mugging" comments. The defended superbly, harried us for posession, and broke quickly and intelligence. FFS, get over it. The better team won. am over it alpine......just watching you go into meltdown Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalek2003 Posted 13 April, 2012 Share Posted 13 April, 2012 Disappointing. At the end of the day we missed Morgan who can dicatate the game better. It is worrying how easily we get picked off against the good sides though. Fonte hasn't been great all season and was really poor for their third. Chaplow also did absolutely nothing. If we go up we need a faster central defender and we need to sort out RM. It's all a bit of a mess at the moment. OK, now I am getting perspective. We can only do our best. If we are not good enough for promotion this year, then maybe it will give us another year to build. In the meantime we can only give it our best shot. Posh and Cov are winnable games. Tuesday is massive ! As I said before, I think Wham will take 12 points from the next four. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Micky Posted 13 April, 2012 Share Posted 13 April, 2012 (edited) Very dissapointed, we were well and truly mugged tonight. Reading were very lucky tonight, but fair play they did what we did to Leeds the other day. On to posh and we need to smash them and put us on the brink. Ummm think they did Reading. Smashing them may not be too easy - they will fancy their chances after tonight. Edit: Actually, reading all of your post, how the hell were Reading lucky, we were not mugged - we were well beaten by a very organised team. Edited 13 April, 2012 by Micky Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Who? Posted 13 April, 2012 Share Posted 13 April, 2012 Was I the only one thinking no not a 3rd because of the goal difference? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 13 April, 2012 Share Posted 13 April, 2012 Alps, do you ever look past the score to form your opinions? I just watched the last 70mins of that game, and I am telling it how I see it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Bock 1898 Posted 13 April, 2012 Share Posted 13 April, 2012 Shouldnt feel too bad they are a good side, especially with mullins in the middle. Jason Roberts was also excellent, but you're right probably not man of match, that should of gone to Fonte for his premier league defending. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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