FarehamRed Posted 25 January, 2013 Share Posted 25 January, 2013 At least Ince speaks English. Ho... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patred44 Posted 25 January, 2013 Share Posted 25 January, 2013 Why do you assume Saints can't do more than one deal at a time? simple, because they really haven't been able to in the recent past... our recruitment is clumsy, slow, and involves too many people who daren't make a decision without referring it to Cortese. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearsy Posted 25 January, 2013 Share Posted 25 January, 2013 we are in danger of taking our eye off the ball again, as we did with Ramirez in the summer. Other targets out there will not sit about waiting whilst we throw everything into getting this lad from Inter. Weren't it that Ramirez did sit around waiting in the summer whilst we first tried to sign that other lad. Wassisname? MLG you remember I think he was from Holland? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 25 January, 2013 Share Posted 25 January, 2013 simple, because they really haven't been able to in the recent past... our recruitment is clumsy, slow, and involves too many people who daren't make a decision without referring it to Cortese. Evidence for all of this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tajjuk Posted 25 January, 2013 Share Posted 25 January, 2013 simple, because they really haven't been able to in the recent past... our recruitment is clumsy, slow, and involves too many people who daren't make a decision without referring it to Cortese. To be fair this thread is only 15 pages long, the Ramirez one was what 70? This deal is progressing quite rapidly in comparison. I also don't think we need anyone else at this moment. Would be nice maybe to get someone like Biglia but not essential. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 25 January, 2013 Share Posted 25 January, 2013 Sorry to do an MLG but think Courinho is only 18 Born: June 12, 1992 (age 20), Rio de Janeiro And you've got MLG's Mr Wrong tag for the day Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iansums Posted 25 January, 2013 Share Posted 25 January, 2013 we are in danger of taking our eye off the ball again, as we did with Ramirez in the summer. Other targets out there will not sit about waiting whilst we throw everything into getting this lad from Inter. If it goes tits up, we will be left with nothing and only a few days of the window to go. A perfect recipe for panic buying at the last minute How do you know we are not looking at alternatives? If reports are correct we were looking at Astori but had an alternative in Forren who have course has now signed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 25 January, 2013 Share Posted 25 January, 2013 Coutinho is 20. 12 June 1992. I don't think Ince is better, Coutinho is the better player now and I think has more potential.However, I think he (Ince) is a decent prospect which could potentially improve our squad, fits what we need (versatile wide man with pace and trickery) and being English will take less time to settle and adapt than Coutinho. I also think he should be cheaper and might be easier (quicker) to acquire as seemingly no one else is after him. I also think he's better than Zaha who Man Utd have jsut paid £15 million for. I rate ince highly by the way. It seems strange as Liverpool were linked with him all through august-Jan and now that seems to have gone cold. I'd take him in a heartbeat BTW, this fella just sounds likes a class above, although i must admit i'd never heard of him until we were linked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saints-cris Posted 25 January, 2013 Share Posted 25 January, 2013 I rate ince highly by the way. It seems strange as Liverpool were linked with him all through august-Jan and now that seems to have gone cold. I'd take him in a heartbeat BTW, this fella just sounds likes a class above, although i must admit i'd never heard of him until we were linked. Even funnier that Liverpool let Ince go for very little, now want to get him back for millions.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 25 January, 2013 Share Posted 25 January, 2013 Evidence for all of this? i have a tape which Ramirez agent wore taped under his shirt and was recorded in a covert mission in our negotiations as a plant to prove this is the case. HTH. Now where's your evidence what Pat says isn't the case? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patred44 Posted 25 January, 2013 Share Posted 25 January, 2013 Evidence for all of this? Well, if you could not see it it in the summer, then what good will it do to highlight even more.. it is self evident! We have to go at the pace of one man, rightly or wrongly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 25 January, 2013 Share Posted 25 January, 2013 Freelance journalist @indykaila Coutinho update: The player is happy with #LFC terms. The clubs are meeting this morning again to discuss fee. The difference is 1.2m #FSG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dig Dig Posted 25 January, 2013 Share Posted 25 January, 2013 Why do you assume Saints can't do more than one deal at a time? simple, because they really haven't been able to in the recent past... our recruitment is clumsy, slow, and involves too many people who daren't make a decision without referring it to Cortese. Don't be silly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smirking_Saint Posted 25 January, 2013 Share Posted 25 January, 2013 Born: June 12, 1992 (age 20), Rio de Janeiro And you've got MLG's Mr Wrong tag for the day This is a bad day for me....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 25 January, 2013 Share Posted 25 January, 2013 This is a bad day for me....... dont worry, i'm sure MLG will take back his title very soon and normal mongboard order will be restored. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 25 January, 2013 Share Posted 25 January, 2013 Freelance journalist @indykaila Coutinho update: The player is happy with #LFC terms. The clubs are meeting this morning again to discuss fee. The difference is 1.2m #FSG Wouldn't surprise me if he ends up there, but would love it if we stole him under their noses. Hopefully we have an alternative lined up... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 25 January, 2013 Share Posted 25 January, 2013 Can only see him going to Liverpool Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 25 January, 2013 Share Posted 25 January, 2013 Wouldn't surprise me if he ends up there, but would love it if we stole him under their noses. Hopefully we have an alternative lined up... Even if he does end up there (which I very much suspect he will) its been entertaining watching the squirming and the "he's ours - he's great" / "he's theirs - he's not all that" to-ing and fro-ing from LFC fans on Twitter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 25 January, 2013 Share Posted 25 January, 2013 Can only see him going to Liverpool Yep, i agree. Time to move on i think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tajjuk Posted 25 January, 2013 Share Posted 25 January, 2013 I rate ince highly by the way. It seems strange as Liverpool were linked with him all through august-Jan and now that seems to have gone cold. I'd take him in a heartbeat BTW, this fella just sounds likes a class above, although i must admit i'd never heard of him until we were linked. I think Coutinho is but I also think he's going to be a Liverpool player and seeing as they were the only ones in for Ince he'd be a good bid. Could easily sign him for around £7 million I reckon and it would be a good deal. I have always liked the idea of us signing the young prospects from the lower leagues that we regularly sold over the years like Bale being signed by spurs. Will Hughes would be another one to look at but I think he's going to be more of a no 10. type player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 25 January, 2013 Share Posted 25 January, 2013 Time to move on i think. What do you even mean by that? None of us know what is going on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 25 January, 2013 Share Posted 25 January, 2013 What do you even mean by that? None of us know what is going on. Yes or no, do you think he will sign for saints? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 25 January, 2013 Share Posted 25 January, 2013 Yes or no, do you think he will sign for saints? I have no idea as we aren't privy to anything that is going on, Saints maybe quite advanced in talks, yet Turkish thinks we should "move on" regardless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 25 January, 2013 Share Posted 25 January, 2013 Im sure he prefers Liverpool but you would hope that we wouldnt both negotiating a deal with Inter if he was not at all able to be persuaded to join us if a fee was agreed. Surely his agent would have given some kind of indication. Or perhaps we arent really that keen and they are using us to get more money out of Liverpool, which is fine really - no time wasted by Saints, just frustration for the fans but ultimately we don't know 99% of what goes on behind the scenes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 25 January, 2013 Share Posted 25 January, 2013 We aren't privy to anything that is going on, Saints maybe quite advanced in talks, yet Turkish thinks we should "move on" regardless. Well if you believe the media, like you do, then everything points to him moving to Liverpool. Do you think he'll sign for us? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 25 January, 2013 Share Posted 25 January, 2013 I think Coutinho is but I also think he's going to be a Liverpool player and seeing as they were the only ones in for Ince he'd be a good bid. Could easily sign him for around £7 million I reckon and it would be a good deal. I have always liked the idea of us signing the young prospects from the lower leagues that we regularly sold over the years like Bale being signed by spurs. Will Hughes would be another one to look at but I think he's going to be more of a no 10. type player. agree with all that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 25 January, 2013 Share Posted 25 January, 2013 I have no idea as we aren't privy to anything that is going on, Saints maybe quite advanced in talks, yet Turkish thinks we should "move on" regardless. Yes or no.... My good sir What is your gut feeling??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 25 January, 2013 Share Posted 25 January, 2013 Yes or no.... My good sir What is your gut feeling??? If Liverpool and Saints both have a bid accepted, he'll goto Liverpool. If just Saints do, then I think he may come to us. If we have had a bid accepted, I think he should at least meet with Cortese and Pochettino to see what they have to say, rather than dismissing us outright. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tajjuk Posted 25 January, 2013 Share Posted 25 January, 2013 Yes or no, do you think he will sign for saints? No. But as MLG says we don't really know anything, so many contrasting reports. What's putting me off is the rumours about the player himself not interested. Whilst the Ramirez saga rumbled on it was pretty clear all along that Ramirez was more than happy to move. What hold it up was fees and third parties etc. Coutinho doesn't seem interested, or at the least he's only a bit interested. I suppose this is understandable when the guy is at a massive club like Inter and another big club like Liverpool are interested. Bolgona to Saints with a pay rise is a much of muchness I would think for a player. Same with Calgiari to Saints (Astori deal which I don't think is completely dead) but Inter to Saints, not so sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St.Patrik Posted 25 January, 2013 Share Posted 25 January, 2013 Yesterday was news in Sweden that Anders Svensson club Elfsborg took a striker on loan from Celtic. The player has playerd before in Sweden for AIK together with JOS and really wanted to go back there. But Cletic said no and gave him an alternative - stay at Celtic and train with the kids or go to Elfsborg - your choice.... So if a club wants to play hardball they can so in this case with Coutino - if we offers more money to Inter then it´s really of no interest what the player want´s - if Inter are desperate for cash. Just my oppinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 25 January, 2013 Share Posted 25 January, 2013 If Liverpool and Saints both have a bid accepted, he'll goto Liverpool. If just Saints do, then I think he may come to us. If we have had a bid accepted, I think he should at least meet with Cortese and Pochettino to see what they have to say, rather than dismissing us outright. So Liverpool hold all the aces then and you think we shouldn't move onto other targets. Utterly mental. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hutch Posted 25 January, 2013 Share Posted 25 January, 2013 When do we play our trump card? When Guly tells him how much the fans adore Brazillian players at SMS it will seal the deal in our favour surely? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustMike Posted 25 January, 2013 Share Posted 25 January, 2013 Born: June 12, 1992 (age 20), Rio de Janeiro And you've got MLG's Mr Wrong tag for the day hahahah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itchen_dan Posted 25 January, 2013 Author Share Posted 25 January, 2013 Nothing new but on Sky Sports transfer clockwatch this morning online: Reports coming out of Italy in Gazzetta dello Sport this morning claim Southampton have upped their offer for Inter Milan midfielder Philippe Coutinho to €10million (£8.4m), while Liverpool have offered €9million (£7.6m) and won’t be increasing their bid. The newspaper says Inter have requested two days to make a decision and that Coutinho would prefer an Anfield move. The Brazilian’s exit would pave the way for the Nerazzurri to buy Paulinho from Corinthians. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 25 January, 2013 Share Posted 25 January, 2013 So Liverpool hold all the aces then and you think we shouldn't move onto other targets. Utterly mental. How much time and effort do you think is involved in merely staying in transfer talks for one player? It is not me being "utterly mental", you are the one that without knowing any of what is really going on is demanding the club pull out no matter what the situation currently is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubai_phil Posted 25 January, 2013 Share Posted 25 January, 2013 Is Ince actually back playing again after his injury? Young players & Hamstrings. Maybe there is a reason that Liverpool decided to wait or move on. We don't know. Forren came out of left field when we were saying we can only do one deal at a time. I think we are likely to go the same way here. But of course, once Coutinho sees parts of Liverpool he may want to change his mind Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 25 January, 2013 Share Posted 25 January, 2013 How much time and effort do you think is involved in staying in transfer talks? It is not me being "utterly mental", you are the one that without knowing any of what is really going on is demanding the club pull out no matter what the situation currently is. Where did i "demand we pull out"? Yet again Mr Wrong, making stuff up. I said that we move onto other targets. It seems we've had a bid accepted so If Coutinho wants to join us then he will, but by your own admission Liverpool hold the aces, if they match our bid then he'll go there. We dont appear to be in a position of strength on this one, even by your own wierd logic you can see that. Lets start progressing other deals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charliemiller Posted 25 January, 2013 Share Posted 25 January, 2013 Silly question but he has only played twice for Brazil , will he get a work permit ?? Other clubs seem to get them no problem but whenever its us it seems the rule book is adhered to . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 25 January, 2013 Share Posted 25 January, 2013 Is Ince actually back playing again after his injury? It was Matt Phillips that was injured, not Tom Ince. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 25 January, 2013 Share Posted 25 January, 2013 Where did i "demand we pull out"? Yet again Mr Wrong, making stuff up. I said that we move onto other targets. It seems we've had a bid accepted so If Coutinho wants to join us then he will, but by your own admission Liverpool hold the aces, if they match our bid then he'll go there. We dont appear to be in a position of strength on this one, even by your own wierd logic you can see that. Lets start progressing other deals. Who says we aren't? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 25 January, 2013 Share Posted 25 January, 2013 Where did i "demand we pull out"? Yet again Mr Wrong, making stuff up. I said that we move onto other targets. It seems we've had a bid accepted so If Coutinho wants to join us then he will, but by your own admission Liverpool hold the aces, if they match our bid then he'll go there. We dont appear to be in a position of strength on this one, even by your own wierd logic you can see that. Lets start progressing other deals. How do you know we aren't? As I asked earlier... How much time and effort do you think is involved in merely staying in "transfer talks" for one player? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 25 January, 2013 Share Posted 25 January, 2013 How do you know we aren't? As I asked earlier... How much time and effort do you think is involved in merely staying in transfer talks for one player? So why are you dismissing me saying go for other targets if you say youself that we might be? Where have i said we should pull out? Struggling this morning Matthew aren't we. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubai_phil Posted 25 January, 2013 Share Posted 25 January, 2013 It was Matt Phillips that was injured, not Tom Ince. Not the Tom Ince who was out with Hamstring Injury in the run up to the Festive Season then http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/20797155 Thanks for clearing that up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubai_phil Posted 25 January, 2013 Share Posted 25 January, 2013 Silly question but he has only played twice for Brazil , will he get a work permit ?? Other clubs seem to get them no problem but whenever its us it seems the rule book is adhered to . Yep sure does. Lee Maya Mayuka Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 25 January, 2013 Share Posted 25 January, 2013 Not the Tom Ince who was out with Hamstring Injury in the run up to the Festive Season then http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/20797155 Thanks for clearing that up Oh dear, he strikes again. I knew it wouldn't be long Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charliemiller Posted 25 January, 2013 Share Posted 25 January, 2013 Yep sure does. Lee Maya Mayuka They all have Many more appearances than TWO ............. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 25 January, 2013 Share Posted 25 January, 2013 Who says we aren't? This seems to be the current mongboard en vouge reply when anyone says anything like this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 25 January, 2013 Share Posted 25 January, 2013 Not the Tom Ince who was out with Hamstring Injury in the run up to the Festive Season then Thanks for clearing that up Oh dear, he strikes again. I knew it wouldn't be long Ince has played in 26 of Blackpool's 28 Championship games this season. In the last 3 months he played in games on... 3rd November, 6th November, 10th November, 17th November, 24th November, 27th November, 1st December, 8th December, 15th December, 21st December, 26th December, 29th December, 1st January, 5th January, 12th January, 15th January, 19th January. As I said, it was Matt Phillips that missed a lot of that time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dig Dig Posted 25 January, 2013 Share Posted 25 January, 2013 This seems to be the current mongboard en vouge reply when anyone says anything like this. who says it is? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted 25 January, 2013 Share Posted 25 January, 2013 Ince has played in 26 of Crystal Palace's 28 Championship games this season. In the last 3 months he played in games on... 3rd November, 6th November, 10th November, 17th November, 24th November, 27th November, 1st December, 8th December, 15th December, 21st December, 26th December, 29th December, 1st January, 5th January, 12th January, 15th January, 19th January. Ince doesn't play for Crystal Palace. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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