hypochondriac Posted 23 January, 2013 Share Posted 23 January, 2013 Why is it worrying? Cortese would not be spending money we don't have now would he! Portsmouth fans could have said the same about sasha... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Sanchez Posted 23 January, 2013 Share Posted 23 January, 2013 When was 'our club' really our club? I've been supporting ever since the war and never had any input to any managerial decisions and wouldn't expect to A family club, Bates etc etc, since when has time had anything to do with your club? Do you this is transparent? Do you think its dignified? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Sanchez Posted 23 January, 2013 Share Posted 23 January, 2013 You have an alternative strategy that will work perhaps? I have supported Saints for 60 years and what Dellman says is true - it has always been my team who I support but it has never been my club that I belong to or have any influence over and it never will be. We are no different as a club to most of the others in the league are we? I dont have an alternative now as its too late, we should of bought quality players in the summer and also if we felt inclined (Cortese probably did but could not) sacked Adkins and put in place someone else, we are now spending money we dont know where its coming from and that concerns me, if it were Chelsea or Man City it obvious where the money is coming from, for us? To solely put trust in someone who does not speak to the media, hates the local rag in fact and dislikes ex players who care and speak for the club and treats managers with such contempt he does not even tell them they are sacked is worrying and naive in my humble opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrZuess1979 the 2nd Posted 23 January, 2013 Share Posted 23 January, 2013 Portsmouth fans could have said the same about sasha... Why invest in the training ground then ? As said before,if anything we are still using money put by, for the 5 year plan? Poopy bought players for stupid money (in some cases) Then payed their agents stupid money (in all cases) Then to cap it off payed them stupid wages (in all cases) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Sanchez Posted 23 January, 2013 Share Posted 23 January, 2013 Why invest in the training ground then ? As said before,if anything we are still using money put by, for the 5 year plan? Poopy bought players for stupid money (in some cases) Then payed their agents stupid money (in all cases) Then to cap it off payed them stupid wages (in all cases) Urban myth in many ways about the skates and their signings, they actually made money on a lot of them, it was the wages that screwed them up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 23 January, 2013 Share Posted 23 January, 2013 Why is it worrying? Cortese would not be spending money we don't have now would he! I'm not necessarily worried about our spending, but we've taken a BVI loan for a reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Chalet Posted 23 January, 2013 Share Posted 23 January, 2013 I'm not necessarily worried about our spending, but we've taken a BVI loan for a reason. Cashflow Tax Dodge Getting around upcoming FFP rules We are proper skint Could be any number of reasons, might get some idea when next set of accounts are published. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nolan Posted 23 January, 2013 Share Posted 23 January, 2013 Getting a loan out sort of hints at there not being one. You have to be a fool not to be concerned that we are already spending our parachute money and probably have a massive wage bill. not necessarily. He could have taken out a loan as an offset mechanism / to put on the balance sheet so they can pay lower taxes, like most of the businesses in our country do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPTCount Posted 23 January, 2013 Share Posted 23 January, 2013 mail article saying our bid has been accepted http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2267299/Southampton-Philippe-Coutinho-bid-accepted.html?ITO=1490&ns_mchannel=rss&ns_campaign=1490 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 23 January, 2013 Share Posted 23 January, 2013 Those ITK on such things, why do Inter not fancy Coutinho at all? He seems happy enough to stay and work for a place, young lad with loads of potential etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 23 January, 2013 Share Posted 23 January, 2013 Cashflow Tax Dodge Getting around upcoming FFP rules We are proper skint Could be any number of reasons, might get some idea when next set of accounts are published. Yeah I know (see first line of my post), look at 2nd line of post I was replying to though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crab Lungs Posted 23 January, 2013 Share Posted 23 January, 2013 I only want to sign Coutinho to p1ss the Liverpool fans off even more. In fact, some are on the verge of breakdown already. Might be worth watching this thread http://www.koptalk.co.uk/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=303168&page=11 The man utd fans on redcafe want him to join us as they enjoy attacking teams that compete with them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crab Lungs Posted 23 January, 2013 Share Posted 23 January, 2013 http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/liverpool/9822328/Liverpool-manager-Brendan-Rodgers-makes-improved-8-million-offer-for-Inter-Milan-midfielder-Philippe-Coutinho.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy_D Posted 23 January, 2013 Share Posted 23 January, 2013 Those ITK on such things, why do Inter not fancy Coutinho at all? He seems happy enough to stay and work for a place, young lad with loads of potential etc. Not sure about Inter specifically, but football in Italy is in severe financial trouble in general. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Scott Posted 23 January, 2013 Share Posted 23 January, 2013 A very good comment from one of their fans. I would say that Southampton are a progressing team having just got promoted and doing ok in the premier league. They've also made some good signings. Everyone knows who Liverpool are which can help, but it could also work against us. A look at the history books shows that we are one of the most successful clubs of all time - but that was all in a different era. We can be described as a meagre shadow of our former selves which isn't particularly appetising. And we're worse off than this time last year, when we were really sh!t!......There's also the small matter of the insulting wages that LFC seem to offer players and the fact that the city is riddled with crime. Oh, and the last foreigner that BR signed has barely seen daylight - if players are getting paid on performances then how can they earn money if they're not on the pitch. From a neutral perspective, Southampton looks every bit as good an option as Liverpool Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 23 January, 2013 Share Posted 23 January, 2013 (edited) http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/liverpool/9822328/Liverpool-manager-Brendan-Rodgers-makes-improved-8-million-offer-for-Inter-Milan-midfielder-Philippe-Coutinho.html Why would clubs negotiate offers such as that without having any inkling that the player would be keen on the move? End of the day if he likes his wage its possible he would move here. Tomorrows Times says Liverpool have offered 8m and us 10m but player prefers a move to Liverpool. Edited 23 January, 2013 by Saint Charlie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted 23 January, 2013 Share Posted 23 January, 2013 Exciting player he might be, but defensive options would have been a grearter priority I'd have hoped. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 23 January, 2013 Share Posted 23 January, 2013 Simon Peach @SimonPeach I understand talk of Coutinho to #SaintsFC is wide of the mark. Interest in summer but Ramirez came in. Sounds as if agent is playing games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 23 January, 2013 Share Posted 23 January, 2013 Exciting player he might be, but defensive options would have been a grearter priority I'd have hoped. Really? We have 4 CBs and two of the country's best Full backs. We had De Ridder and Chaplow as attacking MF options on Monday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crab Lungs Posted 23 January, 2013 Share Posted 23 January, 2013 Tbf, few of the comments are decent but I do get the impression they realmy think they're still amazing. Just read a thread on Jordan Henderson where many of the posters believe he's one of the most technically gifted midfielders around. Um..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 23 January, 2013 Share Posted 23 January, 2013 I understand talk of Coutinho to #SaintsFC is wide of the mark. Interest in summer but Ramirez came in. Sounds as if agent is playing games. @SimonPeach Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted 23 January, 2013 Share Posted 23 January, 2013 Really? We have 4 CBs and two of the country's best Full backs. We had De Ridder and Chaplow as attacking MF options on Monday. Are we happy with CB options as being premiership standard ? FB - agree with you. Take your point regarding the subs bench and availability there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wade Garrett Posted 23 January, 2013 Share Posted 23 January, 2013 I understand talk of Coutinho to #SaintsFC is wide of the mark. Interest in summer but Ramirez came in. Sounds as if agent is playing games. @SimonPeach Good, money could be better spent elsewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 23 January, 2013 Share Posted 23 January, 2013 We have enough depth at CB now IMO as long as Fonte isn't out too long and Forren is as good as being made out. Really don't think we need much now apart from a midfielder to give us a bit more if Lallana/Punch/Gaston are unfit or an option off th ebench. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 23 January, 2013 Share Posted 23 January, 2013 Good, money could be better spent elsewhere. Player or position? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elias Posted 23 January, 2013 Share Posted 23 January, 2013 Really not fussed with Coutinho. Talented player, but not likely to be up for a relegation battle. We should have other priorities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supersonic Posted 23 January, 2013 Share Posted 23 January, 2013 Good, money could be better spent elsewhere. as could the £12m on Ramirez Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wade Garrett Posted 23 January, 2013 Share Posted 23 January, 2013 Player or position? Player, over-priced for a reserve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wade Garrett Posted 23 January, 2013 Share Posted 23 January, 2013 as could the £12m on Ramirez Lot of money, but great player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Appy Posted 23 January, 2013 Share Posted 23 January, 2013 I understand talk of Coutinho to #SaintsFC is wide of the mark. Interest in summer but Ramirez came in. Sounds as if agent is playing games. @SimonPeach Take that as he is signing then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Fan CaM Posted 23 January, 2013 Share Posted 23 January, 2013 Portsmouth fans could have said the same about sasha... So you are comparing Markus with Sasha? Nice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 23 January, 2013 Share Posted 23 January, 2013 So you are comparing Markus with Sasha? Nice. No. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sotonist Posted 24 January, 2013 Share Posted 24 January, 2013 I understand talk of Coutinho to #SaintsFC is wide of the mark. Interest in summer but Ramirez came in. Sounds as if agent is playing games. @SimonPeach Pretty much what he tweeted about Rodriguez just before he signed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintBobby Posted 24 January, 2013 Share Posted 24 January, 2013 I'm up for this. Well worth £10m IMHO. He replaces Puncheon, who has been great, but isn't a superstar tbh. Of our starting, full fit XI, Puncheon is the one I'd seek to displace and upgrade. Boruc Clyne Fonte Forren Shaw Schneider Cork Coutinho Ramirez Lallana Lambert Subs: Davis, Davis, Yoshida, J-Rod, Puncheon, Fox, De Ridder/Lee (I can see a good case for replacing the last two/three subs...but I wouldn't spend much money on it...) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintBobby Posted 24 January, 2013 Share Posted 24 January, 2013 I understand talk of Coutinho to #SaintsFC is wide of the mark. Interest in summer but Ramirez came in. Sounds as if agent is playing games. @SimonPeach Beware of anyone who begins their sentence "I understand". If you really understand something, just state it. And just begin your statement with the next word along. Or start your sentence with "I'm guessing" or "I'm hearing" or "My hunch is"... It is the most bizarre, non-qualification ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubai_phil Posted 24 January, 2013 Share Posted 24 January, 2013 (edited) http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2267299/Southampton-Philippe-Coutinho-bid-accepted.html 12.7mil bid accepted by Inter If it is agent games then they are pretty damned good at it. Perhaps we should sign the agent up ourselves Edited 24 January, 2013 by dubai_phil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 24 January, 2013 Share Posted 24 January, 2013 A very good comment from one of their fans. If he'd posted similar on here from a Saints perspective as to why Liverpool are as good if not a better option he'd be shouted down and told to support someone else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 24 January, 2013 Share Posted 24 January, 2013 http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2267299/Southampton-Philippe-Coutinho-bid-accepted.html 12.7mil bid accepted by Inter If it is agent games then they are pretty damned good at it. Perhaps we should sign the agent up ourselves It's in the daily fail (PMSL) so clearly not true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubai_phil Posted 24 January, 2013 Share Posted 24 January, 2013 It's in the daily fail (PMSL) so clearly not true. As was the story about NA's job being under threat about a week ago before the Mirror named Mo Po the day before......... I do of course take this with a pinch of Sodium Chloride but not so much as to offend those who are intolerant Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bucks Saint Posted 24 January, 2013 Share Posted 24 January, 2013 I am getting this agent next time I sell my house Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 24 January, 2013 Share Posted 24 January, 2013 As was the story about NA's job being under threat about a week ago before the Mirror named Mo Po the day before......... I do of course take this with a pinch of Sodium Chloride but not so much as to offend those who are intolerant Yep and that was lies too. A paper read by right wing scumbags. the Adkins job thing Was part of national media wind up, remember? No reason to think this is any different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeShmoe Posted 24 January, 2013 Share Posted 24 January, 2013 I just don't believe he would come here and I'd rather get Biglia and an AM like Alvarez or Verdu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colbury Posted 24 January, 2013 Share Posted 24 January, 2013 Beware of anyone who begins their sentence "I understand". If you really understand something, just state it. And just begin your statement with the next word along. Or start your sentence with "I'm guessing" or "I'm hearing" or "My hunch is"... It is the most bizarre, non-qualification ever. Agree.. But you've got to remember that Peach is a moron. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iansums Posted 24 January, 2013 Share Posted 24 January, 2013 A very good comment from one of their fans. "and the fact that the city is riddled with crime." Pap and Mr Sanchez will love this bit! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DT Posted 24 January, 2013 Share Posted 24 January, 2013 I'd quite like a defender Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B Rabbit Posted 24 January, 2013 Share Posted 24 January, 2013 I'd quite like a defender We just signed Forren...he might even be good! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 24 January, 2013 Share Posted 24 January, 2013 Talksport now reporting our bid has been accepted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tajjuk Posted 24 January, 2013 Share Posted 24 January, 2013 (edited) A very good comment from one of their fans. It's nice but wrong. Even with my Saints bias hat on, if the terms on offer were similar he would go to Liverpool. It would seem the club (saints) are also thinking along those lines as well by trying to price Liverpool out of it. We're not going to QPR it and offer him £80k a week, so the wages on offer will be similar IMO. Simon Peach @SimonPeach I understand talk of Coutinho to #SaintsFC is wide of the mark. Interest in summer but Ramirez came in. Sounds as if agent is playing games. I don't remember any links in the summer, and the agent has drummed up a lot column inches about it for no interest. I'd quite like a defender Think this position is the priority now. With Forren in and the improvement of Fonte, Yoshida, the growing excellence of Shaw and Clyne and the recovery of Boruc we look as solid defensively as anyone in the bottom half. Even Jos has looked ok in recent weeks and it's likely he will be 4th choice. However without Lallana we look thin on the ground attacking wise and someone that could challenge Puncheon would be helpful. I think we will try and sign another top class centre back in the Summer (possible Astori) as well as full back cover if we stay up but as our only priority is staying up I think our defence is good enough for that. Transfer target priorites for me would be:- Wide man Defensive Mid Top class Centre back Full back cover Replacements for Boruc and Punch if they don't sign contracts. At the same time move on the likes of De Ridder, Richardson, Hooiveld, Chaplow etc. Edited 24 January, 2013 by tajjuk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Windmill Arm 2 Posted 24 January, 2013 Share Posted 24 January, 2013 We are not going to sign Coutinho ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxstone Posted 24 January, 2013 Share Posted 24 January, 2013 We are not going to sign Coutinho ! If we do I will eat my garage and yours too ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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